[9/24/2010 4:45:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: tony have you ever read this? http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/403303
[6:53:39 AM] Tony Bermanseder: Aye Raven - this is genuine to just under 100%, say 95% (I disagree on the self-replenishing oil for example) and this writer has directly taken its 'nous' from the GOT, he is obviously (to me) familiar with.
[6:54:41 AM] Tony Bermanseder: an excellent 'discovery' by you thank you for sharing
[6:54:46 AM] Ishtara Raven: hiya
[6:55:02 AM] Tony Bermanseder: similar to Hidden Hand imo
[6:55:03 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes i thought there was something to this, i found it on avalon
[6:55:06 AM] Ishtara Raven: aye
[6:55:24 AM] Tony Bermanseder: hmm anyone would be advised to read this SLOWLY not the speed reading
[6:55:58 AM] Tony Bermanseder: he basically undeerstands the Logos whom he calls the 'Real Christ' not the Jesus of the churches
[6:56:05 AM] Ishtara Raven: exactly
[6:56:15 AM] Tony Bermanseder: you sped read lol
[6:56:24 AM] Ishtara Raven: no i read it yesterday sweety
[6:56:30 AM] Ishtara Raven: and the day before
[6:56:34 AM] Tony Bermanseder: ok the slower the better
[6:56:56 AM] Tony Bermanseder: he seems to also have got the bd of the historical Jesus right as the spring equinox
[6:56:58 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes i went over it a few times, like he said, many things get missed if you don't slow down
[6:57:10 AM] Ishtara Raven: this was published in 2005
[6:57:50 AM] Tony Bermanseder: yes i published the spring equonox week 6BC which is 2010 years from 2005
[6:58:04 AM] Tony Bermanseder: he said 2014
[6:58:15 AM] Tony Bermanseder: could be a numerology key
[6:58:37 AM] Ishtara Raven: i found what he said about words very interesting
[6:58:42 AM] Tony Bermanseder: otherwise i could found nothing to disagree with
[6:59:08 AM] Tony Bermanseder: oh yes no doubt he understands the GOT and the Logos as we describe it
[6:59:26 AM] Tony Bermanseder: he was hinting at the GOT continually
[6:59:47 AM] Tony Bermanseder: see now why the PTB dismisses the GOT everywhere?
[6:59:56 AM] Tony Bermanseder: It is the KEY of Keys
[6:59:59 AM] Ishtara Raven: it must be a small faction of 'elites' that knows this stuff, he said his group was a minority within the ruling familys
[7:00:06 AM] Tony Bermanseder: absolutely
[7:00:23 AM] Tony Bermanseder: the 'elite' is all about the GOT I've known this for ages
[7:00:48 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes the 'bloodline family' is the gene of the rememberance, he hinted at that a lot too
[7:00:58 AM] Tony Bermanseder: also notice as he says that all 'publicity' leads to corruption?
[7:01:06 AM] Ishtara Raven: yep
[7:01:17 AM] Tony Bermanseder: So New Age =disinfo mostly period
[7:01:43 AM] Tony Bermanseder: as is all the rest of the 'esteem' and the 'foundations of society'
[7:01:57 AM] Ishtara Raven: interestingly the folks on avalon have been reading it and many commented on how its made them see things in a totaly new light
[7:02:25 AM] Tony Bermanseder: like Hidden Hand here now and forgotten tomorrow by 95%
[7:02:33 AM] Tony Bermanseder: like Thuban lol
[7:02:36 AM] Ishtara Raven: yeah lol
[7:03:02 AM] Tony Bermanseder: many good points about what the soul is the passions etc and the INTENT of statements
[7:03:30 AM] Tony Bermanseder: I Am and I declare and stuff like that as the way to the 'homecoming'
[7:03:58 AM] Tony Bermanseder: the WITHIN and the 0ne-to-one true gnosis
[7:04:34 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes i looked at your pic again in the logos algorhythm and looked up the passages under Maria Infinity's pic, I AM the bright morning star
[7:04:54 AM] Tony Bermanseder: logos-Logos couplings
[7:05:42 AM] Tony Bermanseder: its a pdf but it should be on the forum imo
[7:06:04 AM] Tony Bermanseder: have you got it in wordpad?

Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

2005
　
　
　Revelations of an Elite family Insider
　
　
Something fascinating happened on a forum (godlikeproductions.com) in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet.　　
A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically.　
　
Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.　
　
The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least.
　
What amazes is that Insider answered these questions in a very short time span and if you keep in mind that the topics are diverse, some in depth and some epic answers showed up literally minutes apart, one must wonder how it was done. Copy/paste from internet? I checked intensively and the sentences Insider used cannot be found on internet. Like one person observed, this was way over the heads of the usual suspects.　
　
Some people started getting upset, others were drawn to it and this all lead to a dialogue where so much was revealed, including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

Sounds hard to believe? Read on.

9/24/2005
Statement Insider:
I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question and I will answer them in short.
Why?
Because I can.
Q:
What´s an "Elite Family"?
A:
That´s how most are calling it.
Families who for a long time have been ruling the people who are not from these bloodlines.
Q:
what´s your thoughts on "peak oil"
A:
It is known within certain circles that it is manufactured.
The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now even believe it or not, it is a natural process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".
Study the bees and the way they produce honey and you will understand.
On top of that there are many places with large amounts of natural resources which never have been touched.
The agenda?
I think you know.
Q:
what commonalities do the bloodlines share?
and have you ever Xxxxxx a child?
A:
Understand that "bloodlines" have been chosen to rule, it didn´t just appear out of air. The souls which incarnate into these bloodlines who rule are picked by Divine Law. Other things don´t have to be mentioned.
The second question shows you read to much Icke who is a tool that is being used. But to answer, no.
Q:
Sorry, OP. No one rules me...never has!
A:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic. Get my drift?
Q:
Where do you elites store your mentally ill relatives caused by centuries of inbreeding?
A:
It is a myth that inbreeding always causes problems.
If the 2 persons who procreate carry genes which are of better quality than the rest....
Q:
why have you allowed us to breed like rats if population is what you feel threatens you?
A:
1. We haven´t allowed that, you have more power than you think you have.
2. Population does not threaten "us" in any way, shape or form....again a myth.
Q by forum owner Trinity:
I am curious what a member of an ´elite family´ thinks of GLP. So what do you think?
A:
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
Making them believe they have a sword in their hand which they think makes them powerful and able to fight "the dark sider" while it is just a toothpick.
You have to be very careful who you give that imaginary sword to, Trinity.
Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?
And I would say that a vast majority of the written words here are not helping the cause you think you are fighting for.
Q:
What is your religious affiliation?
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
I can´t give out to much about this but Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Buddhism are a bit off, let´s say.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good luck.
What we believe in does not matter but it is about serving the Divine Law which was passed onto us.
Q:
How about the world economy?
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist, never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they want you to believe it.
Q
When will the wheat be separated from the chaff? Or do you want to get rid of the wheat and leave the chaff for your slaves?
Whichever, when will it happen?
(tired of false dates, please be honest this time)
A:
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.
Q:
I´m curious to know why the Elite do not lead? They seem to be more of a parasite on society.
A:
A fish in the ocean can´t see that birds are flying in the sky.
Q:
Have you or any of your family members ever participated in an occult ritual and, if yes, what was the nature of it?
A:
Rituals have a meaning which cannot be understood by most.
Rituals are there to connect with the higher beings who govern this realm. We are doing our job.
Q:
well I´d have to say your divine law has Xxxxxx up this planet and its people very well!
A:
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my condolences.
Q:
Do you frequent the Bohemian Grove and fully participate... in cremation of care.. sacrifice to
Molech ... screwing the male homosexual prostitutes... orgies ... etc..
A:
Those and other similar places are for the politicians and media people, they are obligated. Sometimes a bloodline will be present but will not participate in those acts which are not the rituals we do.
Comment from Insider:
Accidental Stoner
Those were many questions....
Most I would answer yes, some no.
Don´t believe all that "gurus" tell about us and you will do fine.
Q:
do you consider the prevalence/success of organised crime families and syndicates as a massive failure of your colle3ctive will?
A:
They are there for a reason.
They aren´t as succesful as they look though, they are broken.
Q:
Why do you continue to attempt to control mass consciousness by by spreading fear though every outlet available to you.
Why not set the knowledge free as was intended long ago, the written word is spreading the wings of truth.
The sword has been given to the sheep, and the day of reconing is soon at hand. I believe in no law of divinity or hierarchy, we are all equal unto th eyes of the creator and for that must you answer in your time.
The meek are inheriting the Earth presently, I pray for you.
A:
If that was the aim, it would be done in an instant.
You do not understand what this world we live in really is.
Q:
I have no questions. I do however have a statement. The time of reckoning is at hand.
A:
It is not.
Q:
it goes..the best slave is one who thinks he is free.
13..ultimately it is all a matter of genes, n´est ce pas?
do you understand self-cloning?
do you agree that the planet is replete with false allies and false enemies?
A:
That´s not how it originaly goes....about the slave. If you read carefuly you will see.
Last question has a yes as an answer, there are also no real allies or enemies.
Q:
Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big trouble... Your time is short and those you belong to, who are in our space quadrant as we speak, already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at this moment. But of course you must keep up appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened on earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?
Q:
The "higher beings who govern this realm", do you serve them? By what names do you call them? Have you ever seen them? Where do they reside?
A:
They penetrate everything and they are benevolent.
Q:
dang insider you skipped my question about what really hit the pentagon....does that mean you aren´t going to answer it?
A:
Does it matter what hit it?
Q:
Too much question dodging
A:
I did not sign a contract which says I have to answer everything.
Some questions do not need an answer and others do not mean a thing eventhough you think it does.
I will be back tomorrow.
9/25/2005
Statement by Insider:
How strange that some of you who talk about love, light and peace are the ones who 2 sentences later cuss and talk about murdering others, smirking about it being soon..
Are you sure you are on the "good" side? And who is Natascha?
For the ones who are a bit smarter than that, ask away, I will answer the way I choose to. Before you ask the question, force yourself to think outside the box that was created for you by others...ask a real question that you thought about, formulate it in detail.
For the others, if you could leave out cussing, hate, bigotry and prejudice (which is based on your gurus´ amazing wisdom), it would show you are a bit more evolved from the peasant stage.
I will not answer all questions, sometimes because it is obvious if you think about it or parts of it have been answered, other times because I do not have the obligation to do so.
Q:
so is bill gates more elite than you?
how about queen elizabeth?
are you an arab?
can´t you control the oil instead of the arabs?
A:
The ones you know the names of are not true bloodlines like you have been taught by theorists. They are not the ones who write the symphony, neither conduct it.
The ones you mentioned and other known names merely play the violin or cello when they are told to, the way they are told to.
It does not matter what race I am, has no effect on anything. Oil is already under full control like all natural resources.
Q:
Why does visualization work?
A:
It does not work for everybody, you have to reach a certain stage in your development. This means living by strict rules, applying them to everything you do in life, in detail. Most humans do not have the discipline nor temparence to achieve that stage.
Some here talk like they can, but I know even without knowing anything about their lives that they are further away from it than they think.
"Visualisation" works because it is an essential way of the creational process in this material universe.
The Universe is a living entity who uses it´s Mind to create and the beings created from that may have that same power to within their boundaries.
Q:
Now the question is, who is using Icke?
and better question... Why?
A:
Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.
What he does not realise is that this actually works against him.
The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting, satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.
Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location. Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories.
Really, I am not reptilian.
The answer why does not have to be answered.
Q:
Hello Insider!
Are you part of the Divine Brotherhood? Are you ME? Are you he who manipulates the Matrix? Enquiring minds want to know, cuz I´m thoroughly confused. You say we despise you, but I could not imagine despising any Being from the Devine Realms! Then you act like your part of the "elite bloodline" on Earth, but what would bloodlines have to do with the Spiritual world? Again...I´m confused. Could you clarify? Just what IS the Elite of whom you say we despise, and yet who apparently has all the "inside scoop"??
sigh Sammie
A:
You are confused for you have accepted the other versions of the "truth" and you think you have a sight of the big picture, but what I say dismisses huge parts of it.
There is a misconception about bloodlines....obviously, the questions that are being asked here prove that.
But there is a reason for that, and it serves an important purpose.
We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law. We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is about you trying to camouflage your tracks.
You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works. We do our duty, so do yours.
Q:
There is a very old saying...unrecorded in open history--"the devil doesn´t know he´s the devil...he thinks he´s God."
A:
Wrong.
It actually states that humans who worship the "bad" think they worship the "good".
Q:
"You do not understand what this world we live in really is."
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Care to elaborate on this statement...? Regards,
Further Considerations
A:
Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose.
Q:
Hey 13 --
I´m not coming back to your planet next time. Smoke on that.
A:
What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?
Q:
What is the reason that your people came to this planet?
A:
Almost the same reason you came.
Q:
Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"? Dubya, is that you?
A:
To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who wanted to be worshipped by your kind.
I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline. They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to.
Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs, Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles, Herodotus, Akhenatons.
They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to.
These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the same room with some people I am related to.
Q by forum owner Trinity :
Insider,
Rather than give them a sword (or a toothpick), I give them a canvas and a pen. The words as you say have vibration and effect.
And though yes many that are written here are contrary to the ONE, some ring true. It is those few, that matter most.
I was recently asked by a friend of mine,
"what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
This seems like a question that would apply to one in your situation as well. My answer was, "save as many as you can".
I am curious to know, What is yours?
A:
If it has an immediate effect it is not a canvas and a pen anymore but a sword...an imaginary one but nonetheless a sword.
And it is not working the way you think it does.
You say most are contrary to the One and that is true, in fact almost all is contrary. But you say because of the few that ring "true" it is worth it.
You cannot have 2 contrary essences at the same time/place eventhough they may have the same spring.
Which means one of the 2 is not present here....do I have to tell you which one that is?
　
　
About mastering the game.
How does one know they have mastered it? Does someone else tell them?
See, if the "master" is not really a master yet he acts like one it will mean he will make errors. He will have flawed thoughts and act accordingly.
People will start listening to him and adopt the flawed opinions and way of living.....eventually he will do more harm than 1 bloodline actually has the power to do personally.
Hence why "leaders" have been created for you who "have mastered their game". Jesus of Nazareth is a nice example.
He was created, this human has many worshippers and they have murdered in his name and still do (Bush).
Jesus of Nazareth was not a master of the game, he was a puppet being used in the game and he still is serving the agenda among you.
So you might think you are saving as many as you can like him but are you really?
How would I answer the question "what do you do when you have mastered the game?" Checkmate.
Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.
　
　
Q:
Why, oh why would an alleged member of an "elite family" waste one minute minute of their time, or give credence to the cespool that is GLP?
A:
Bloodlines are not robots who all act the same.
You are confusing the ones who you think control you with others.
Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my feeling that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event. What say you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span of a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas. The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.
Q:
Was Yahweh an extraterrestrial negative entity? Or was he a fiction invented by the Jewish fantasy factory during the time the Greeks ruled Palestine?
A:
If the name of an entity is public, it means it is fabricated.
Yahweh used to represent an age where mass-control was taking shape.
Q:
Ah, so Mormons are the only ones who are barking up the right tree. Authority and all that.
A:
No.
Q:
1). Don´t you get sick and tired of the lack of real quality in the Music and the Movies?
With your power/money/influence why do you not prime the pump with some really good stuff?
2). What are the three things that have you concerned about most regarding the upsetting of the applecart? [Things that are beyond the direct control of the PTB that you are scrambling to prepare against]
3). Who owns and runs the show on planet earth? Please list the major player groups who actually answer to each successive level beginning from the top down. Descriptions are fine if you don´t want to divulge names. Is it like a pyramid, or is it a number of factions vying for power/control?
4). What is the real story on the greys and are they still major players currently?
5). What do you fear the most?
6). What is the real story you haven´t told us because we haven´t asked yet??
A:
1. The ones who search hard will find the gems in Music, in fact they are out in the open. It is not our duty to enlighten you, that is yours.
We hand out the tools that can be used in the way you choose to, "good or bad".
2. Nothing to do with us but with the puppets.
3. The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber. The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
5. Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.
Q:
My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name, Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.
Explain this please.
A:
I have explained it a bit.
Your lineage is not what you think it is.
Charlemagne (like other "kings") merely played the flute, like his descendants do now in politics especially.
However if there are traces of the lineage within you (and this goes deeper than just blood and genes as you know) then obviously you will understand your surrounding better than others. There are people who are directy linked and they will act differently.
Q:
Do you think Insider that
This current battle is in two stages. Now, on the etheric. And, a thousand years from now, on the astral, once all the HEart people have dropped their physical bodies and HAVE GRADUATED TO HIGHER LIFE FORMS, THE NEXT BEING THE ASTRAL. Then,
The whole show starts all over again, with different players.
A:
You are confusing a few matters.
There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail. If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.
Q:
Dear Insider,
You state that we have the tools to work with. Can you tell us some of them, something to work with so we may free ourselves?
You agree that we are on a prison planet. I thought more like a Zoo, where we are being observed and studied. But if we are on a prison planet, than I must understand that we truly have no free will. Correct?
Thank you
A:
The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you. It is your duty towards yourself to reveal them to yourself and then do as you please with them....there is always a consequence.
Prisoners still can determine what they do in their prison with the tools that were provided to them, they can decide how to walk in the yard, how to talk, think...
You have free will therefore you suffer and are aware of your suffering.
Q:
Dear Insider,
Thank you for answering my first two questions and your time.
I should have asked this question with the first two, but alas I do now. Why give me tools to escape a prison? Sounds counter productive to what a prison is for.
I have known that the PTB are puppets moved around by hands that we cannot see, nor may ever see, but why make them look and act (seemingly) stupid or at the least illogical? Are you wanting a revolution?
What you are saying is that the war is within - not without - though TPTB seem to want us to think it is without - why distract us? What is it that they don´t want us to accomplish? Freedom?
And yes, I am reminded everyday of my suffering. Thanks
A:
We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet. Prove you are worthy again to be released.
The distraction is part of that.
It is about knowing who is and who is not.
The ones who support any of these known faces are failing.
Q:
It sounds like you are cautioning Trinity against giving full reign to freedom of speech? Is thi correct?
A:
He may do as he pleases and accept the consequences in the bigger picture.
Q:
What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself?
A:
Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after that stage untill departure.
　
　
I may be back tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.
9/26/2005
Statement by Insider:
NOTE: I am Insider, AC 13, the former proxy I was using disappeared. So I am using another one with another ID.
Statement by Insider:
Insider/AC 13 again, yet another proxy....the last one disappeared too right after posting. It is getting difficult for me to enter and stay here but I will go on as long as possible.
Q:
Question to the insider (AC 13):
Are you familiar with the Black Nobility?
I have traced and linked all ancient royal families of Europe and the Middle East still present to this day. I know their names and their connections to power, wealth and influence across the world.


And lastly, are you a small part of the Black Nobility, Insider?
A:
The Dark Nobility is a faction which operates on their own, they have different roots which have been described in texts written by my ancestors.
It is a much smaller group than most would claim, because the core is different to the "outer walls".
They are the ones which you all confuse with my kind and therefor direct the hate towards the wrong ones (as shown in this thread too by the lesser intelligent).
About the Anti-Christ....there are at this moment literally billions of Anti-Christs. I am not one.
You will find them among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Satanists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.
They don´t need a leader to be more Anti-Christ.
I have to make clear that The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth, that part was later fabricated.
Q:
Gnostic number 13,do you subcribe to the view,that our dualistic reality provides excellent opportunities for souls to develop unconditional love,so they may transcend our dialectic universe,rather than escaping from it?
Do you also believe in the law of balance and karma,allowing a soul to be king in one lifetime,a beggar in the next? If so,it doesn´t really matter whether you´re a member of the elite,it may be a unique experience on soul level,as unique as any role in society,as long as the soul progresses.
Is the historian Laurence Gardner a powerful member of the elite as Icke claims,or is he just an average guy with access to hidden information? Thanks for your communication,Insider.(hope this thread isn´t a practical joke by some juvenile person.Trust you´re for real)
A:
It is the task of every soul to accomplish that while in this human shape.
There is a part that can be called escaping which will be followed by transcending....if failing, reincarnation.
However the word "love" is misunderstood....it is not meant to be the love in human terms which humans are enslaved by.
That is the corrupt version of the real one.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big picture.
What you are talking about (reincarnating into the opposite of your former life), there is no universal law which states that will definitely happen.
Reincarnation is a fact though, but if you achieve your task there is no reincarnation, no need to experience all levels of life on Earth for they are mainly pointless to experience.
Gardner is one of those persons who wants to be praised and recognised by the people, so he gets it in return for some favors (spreading misinfo which here and there contain the facts, which hooks people).
He was initiated in certain levels but it is not as in depth as one would think (including himself), he is clever though.
He is a member of at least 6 "societies" (although 3 of them are closely linked and could be seen as 1, so 4 at least) but these have only as much power/control as you the people give them. People like Icke are giving them more power unknowingly.
I am real.
Q:
Is this because Christians teach that individuals should be under the control of a God who is holy? Or should I say, one who judges right and wrong?
A:
Christianity is about idolising a human called Jesus of Nazareth first, which is an abomination. Christians teach what they have been told to teach by the ones they oppose.
I can tell you who the 4 individuals were who wrote the Hebrew old testament and the exact date, if it suited me.
Same about your new testament which was gathered by 6 people from 2 different areas.
Q:
And why do you misspell simple words such as ´malicious´? I find that very interesting.
A:
English is not my native language, not even my second nor third, maybe fourth and I type fast without checking so I can answer as many questions as possible in a limited amount of time. On top of this I just realized I have to type even faster because the proxies I use disappear.
Q:
Why do you choose to speak Now?
A:
Some of us have the task to do it within certain boundaries.
How do you suppose certain knowledge in past times was suddenly there? Luck, chance, coincidence?
Q:
Questions
0 - What is this Divine Law you talk about?
1 - Why do you MANIPULATE this world?
2 - Why do - YOU - manipulate this world?
3 - How do you know who is allowing you?
4 - Is your job given to you or taken by you?
5 - Are you a Human Being?
-------------- YOU AGAIN -------------
"The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet. Prove you are worthy again to be released."
-------------- ME AGAIN -------------
I know it and i can feel it. There is a purpose for my life.. But I don´t even know who i am let alone that i know what my purpose is.
6 - How is this knowledge gained? By hard work or does it simply happen to one?
7 - Do you know the purpose of yur life? If so how did you learn about it? Regarding the planet we live on:
8 - On which planet do we live? What is the Planet earth anyway?
9 - What can you tell us about Mohammed (pbuh)?
A:
0. The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
1. + 2. I have answered this many times, it is our duty.
3. + 4. Rituals have a purpose.
If you are doing something which was not allowed or doing a task which was not given to you, you will suffer during these rituals.
In your daily life you will notice it too.
Emanations have many forms and one who knows about these matters will have no trouble recognising with whom he is dealing with and what the message is.
5. I am like you present in this human shape.
6. This has been answered by me in a previous post, in short you have the duty to "gain it". Temperance will lead you to the rightful place from where it all starts.
Before this you must know yourself and what this place is (where most people go wrong), otherwise your thoughts will be filled with error which will lead to erroneous ways.
7. Yes.
These matters are not passed on to you in detail by someone, that actually will lead to the opposite of what needs to be achieved (hence my way of answering, understand this).
You can be guided up to a certain point and then it is up to you.
9. Looking at the way you summon his name I assume you are a Muslim.
It is a "sin" to worship/idolize/praise humans who were part of this planet in any way, shape or form, including when talking/writing about them.
You by adding those letters in brackets have just done that, elevating his name up to that of higher beings.
A human is corrupt while on this planet.....each and single one of them.
A "death" does not change the personality one had and leave behind here, do not feed it. Praise and prayers may only be offered to perfect beings.
Muhammed was like Jesus, Mozes, Abraham, Buddha, a human who was lead to believe he was a knower, or like mentioned earlier "master of the game".
It is very easy to make humans believe they are enlightened and know the truth...and then thinking it is their task to wake up others.
He was used and his legacy is still being used to divide people, just like the other religions/ideologies/"philosophies".
2 of his closest assistants were servants of the bloodlines, 1 of his wives was too (bloodline servants were also assistants of Jesus, Buddha, Mozes, name them all).
After his death it was made sure by these 3 that his followers would be divided which was the main thing Muhammed was told to be against.
So Muslims who believe in seperate streams of Islam are actually rebelling against their own
"prophet"....and that would be pretty much all Muslims.
The kuran has a core of truth but it is floating in a sea of perversions, together with the other
"holy" books.
It was written by 4 individuals from 3 "countries" 1 being western, 2 middle-eastern.
Q:
Insider 13 are you Antichrist?
A:
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Christ, nor is anything I have said Anti-Christ. The ones who claim the opposite are.
Q:
So, is a family where the children are naturally born with this ability *viisualization*, part of the
´bloodline´?
A:
No.
In fact someone who has no connections to these families whatsoever can have this ability too. This ability is there for everyone to receive.....you have to dial in.
It is being provided by the Divine Law to everything that searches for it.
I tried to make this clear earlier.....the blood/genes/etc are not as important as they seem. The physical realm is weak and it cannot affect the Divine.
Someone with no connections to the families can be affected by Divinity in such a way that he could surpass anything the bloodlines ever could achieve combined.
Certain individuals get born into the bloodlines to be able to reign over the people under certain circumstances, that is what the bloodline mainly is about.
Q:
To me Elite means those who place money before people or any real values at all....and those who hold office either because they can buy it or inherit it regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
A:
You just skillfully described your kind, not mine.
Q:
are you a Rothschild? Here is my question, although petty in light of the many questions posed to you on this thread, why aren´t the any of the Rothschilds listed in Forbes top 500 richest people.
A:
If you read closely you would have not asked this question.
The ones who are known in public are not in control, the Rothschilds are at the same level as
your Knights Templar ancestors were....you shouldn´t be proud that you are from that lineage by the way.
These known families/clans/societies are merely dancers to the tune. But to answer your question, no I am not a Rothschild.
Which family am I from?
Most here talk about the bloodlines who rule, yet they do not know who they are.
They wrongly assume they are the Bushs/Clintons/Rothschilds/etc. because some theorists
"researched" it and some "insiders" told them by providing evidence.
I am from a ruling family whose name rarely has been mentioned in history, noone will even know who we are.
Second, you accepting Forbes as a reliable source for these kind of lists shows you are easily manipulated and do not grasp what is happening.
Q:
Worthy ....an interesting word. Are you expecting those of us who know about the world of polarity and try our best not to play the polarity game, to believe that we need to be worthy? In whose eyes? It can only be our own.
Whatever happened to the idea that ´the Universe is within us´? Gaia and all other dimensional
´realities´ are Illusions, No? So the prison is an illusion, right?
p.s. Baby, and btw, we DON´T HAVE FREE WILL ON THIS PLANET....perhaps you slip is showing?
A:
Do you know who manufactured this new age nonsense you just promoted? If this prison is a "true illusion", get out then right now, I dare you.
It is not like in the movies.
You play the victim part.
You do not even accept you have free will, therefore you will always be ruled over, never prevail and deserve everything you get according to universal laws.
I may be back tomorrow.
9/27/2005
Statement by Insider:
Test
Before I start, I have to say I cannot see all posts, some are blank so I may miss questions. If so ask again.
Refrain from asking the same questions over and over again, first check the thread, check my answers, I do tell about areas which were not asked about but may have been on your mind, read carefully.
Q:
...and if these beings are LUCIFERS...?????
answer in 5 words or less, pleze
A:
You used 12 words and 1 number, without realising it you started a part of a ritual...are you a
"being of lucifer"?
Different beings have different characteristics which makes it easy to identify them during rituals.
If it was a "malicious" being guiding me, I would not be talking in the way I do.
Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it affecting him.
The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples).
This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
If you do hate them you are missing an important part of the reality....respect them up to a certain point.
This will also show you are conscious about them and that will be recognised.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.
Q:
1 How does real conciousness interface with this prison?
2 What are the techniques to break the hold of the interface and "free" the conciousness?
A:
1 + 2. Depends what is meant by real conciousness and interface, from where I stand they could be almost the opposite of what you may mean.
Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe which operates according to the Divine Law (they are not the same like many are lead to believe).
This Mind penetrates everything, it rules over everything, so if you would connect with it you may experience it´s unlimited power.
No prison can confine this power, hence there will be an escape, you will be guided up to a certain point, yet most work is to be done by you.
But that is just the beginning, much work lies ahead concerning yourself.
I have explained a few times as far as I am allowed to how to connect, at least how to start with it. It truly is up to you.
I would hesitantly add that studying ancient texts will help (although a lot is filled with perversions and wrong translations, intentionally) but this only after a certain level of awakening, you will recognise/remember the small parts which are true.
If you are not on that level you will take parts of the perversions/wrong translations as the truth
(as a few show it here, especially 1 religious stream) and fail.
Q:
Care to tell us which it is? You some sorta good guy who gives up tools or do you rule over us?? DId you change your mind or what??
A:
Neutral means in the terms I used, neither negative nor positive, merely providing the tools you can choose to use as you wish....you are the perpetrator.
Or would you say I control every aspect of your life, every hour, every minute, every second and force you what to think/say/do?
Do not be mad at the wrong individual.
Q:
Is it necessary to know why we are here to escape, or just work out where we are?
Are the answers to be found "inside" or by "joining" soocieties, or by appealing top divine intervention, or all three?, or none.
You have answered no other of my questions, I hope I have not offended
A:
It is necessary to have a view of the whole spectrum, when it is partial it will be like looking through the window while it is partially covered with a curtain.
You do not know what is behind that covered part therefore cannot act accordingly. What covers the whole spectrum?
Understand this place, what and where it is, know what you are, how you came here, why you came here, how to return.
Prepare yourself for the answers, cleanse yourself, reach out for the Mind, speak (within-"with- out") that you are ready, live strictly according to the answers.
Do not join "secret societies", never, whatever the circumstances are. Also no religions, including the new age, do not accept human gurus/prophets/priests/rabbis/imams/popes/fortunetellers/"mediums"/dalai lamas/politicians/authors/scientists/"celebrities"/parents/etc. as legitimate authority on Divine matters....on other matters it is your choice to accept or decline, however accept the consequence.
You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no intervention by anybody.
If your father asks you for a glass of water to show if you care for him and are disciplined, do you bring it directly to him or do you take the glass of water to your neighbor and ask him to tell you what it is that your father really asked, while the neighbor did not hear it and now is drinking the glass of water himself?
Am I also a neighbor?
I have not touched the glass of water, I opened the door and told you to go back to your father.
No one has offended me, people offend themselves.
I would be offended if what I say was against the One and if it is, I shall pay.
I answer the questions from where I left and type as much as time allows me.
Sometimes I skip a question because it has been answered, other times the question is irrelevant and now also because I can´t see all posts.
Q:
So, what are your comments on NESARA/PLANET X/POLE SHIFT/FIRST CONTACT/SECOND COMING?
Who or what is behind these fairy tales and why?
A:
NESARA: counterproductive to you personally in the long run.
PLANET X: does not exist anymore like so many planets, moons, stars, galaxies.
Their demise however always brings forth something, which means they never stop being part of the whole, playing their part.
POLE SHIFT: it happened 2 times to my knowledge, in the 2nd and 3rd era, if necessary it will be done again.
SECOND COMING: you returning back to where you belong after you have succeeded, which means a second coming cannot take place on Earth for you do not belong here.
People who are waiting for a "saviour" on Earth to do all the work for them are all failing.
I have noticed some Christians have gotten angry and are attacking me on a personal level by damning me, it is their choice.


Q:
What interests me is this: if someone takes the time and trouble to follow up the leads and clues left in numerous books and legends, and sorts out the wheat from the chaff, what then? If that person puts into practice what they have learnt, do they come closer to the truth that the bloodlines evidently have access to?
A:
Yes.
Again, the bloodline is only important for ruling over people, it is not about having a special power that makes one more aware, although the knowledge is being passed on so therefore it appears like that.
But this knowledge is not hidden, the Truth cannot be hidden, It wants to be known by you, inviting you every moment of your life.
That is the reason why It through the ruling powers is being provided to you accompanied with perversions, corrupt additions. to confuse and make you accept the latter.
There is not 1 written book which contains the Truth and nothing but the Truth.
Pick It out and live accordingly to It, incorporate It into every aspect of your life....that is the hardest part for people for you have to float above this physical/material world while being in the body that dictates the opposite.
Q:
How close to the truth are the writings of Neale Donald Walsch in his Conversations with God series? Are you in any way related to the Bird Tribes mentioned in Ken Carey`s Starseed Millenium books?
Is there much truth in the writings of Sheldan Nidle of www.paoweb.com ?
A:
The Native Americans have preserved knowledge succesfully but nowadays (and the last century orso) it is being presented in an erronneous fashion.
Integration is "working".
About the authors mentioned; like I posted before it is not in your interest to accept human intervention/advisors/salesmen between you and the Divine.
They may say certain things which are true, yet it will never be complete.
Q:
Noone on this earth has the power to "free" any of us. Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us. The divine source itself (if there is such a thing) is waiting for us to free our own selves, individually. There will be no "mass ascention" no "mass enlightenment" and "we the people" have all been duped by "we the people" into prolonging our sentence here. We can stay here in this place for eternity if that is our choice, and we have created a belief system that allows us to do so.
A:
I would leave out the sentences "Noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us." and
"(if there is such a thing)".
About the first sentence, there was a time when there were beings who had the power to do it but that was not their task.
And The Divine Source IS....there is no "waiting", "wanting", etc.
You are on the way, the other post showed that too, but living it is an important part of the task.
Q:
And by Divine Law, Christ was sent here to correct the situation.
A:
Yes, but Christ did not descend into the body of a human called Jesus of Nazareth, 2014 years ago on March 20th, almost 2 hours before sunrise (which is the secret time of birth of your "son of god").
The Christ (which has a different "real" name but I will use this name here) appeared once, just once, and this was in another era, not even close to our era where Jesus of Nazareth also lived in.


And do you know who keeps the knowledge about the fake christ(s) alive? The opposite of what you are thinking.






Billions of people on this planet are serving their own corrupt material/physical/mental/emotional desires, are they all elitist?






The higher beings are not in physical bodies, they have no "feuds", they are not under the control of this realm therefore cannot suffer from this.










????????????????????????????? What about this`???


Do not pay attention to the "world events", they are all orchestrated to make you pay attention to them.








1. You are not acting/talking like one of that lineage, which is a good thing because they were ignoring their task.
It means that subconsciously you have disattached yourself from that lineage (eventhough consciously you may not, this is important to understand).


2. You excelling in certain areas is not just genes, they have a bit different purpose. It is about what I mentioned above.

Comment by Insider:
Oazaki / Hiko Seijuro / Aiki-Mei,
Before accepting a certain knowledge, you have to investigate where it comes from.
Do you know where the "knowledge" that you just typed out comes from, when it was released, how it became and by whose hands?
More importantly, who controlled those hands documenting it?
I am saying this with the best of intentions.
If you knew it, you would not have posted it in that fashion.
Investigate the roots of what you said and see for yourself, it is for your own good.
Knowledge does not just appear out of nothing, it is passed on, always...there are no exceptions.
Q:
And, you´re part of an "elite family", that we despise, yet, no one has ever heard of you? Why would we despise someone(s), that we don´t know of?
Why do we despise you?
Do we even know that we despise your family?
Or, is it because of what you know about what we consume on a daily basis that we would despise you, if we knew what it was?
and
If the ones we know the names of are not the "true bloodlines" and you say that you are a member of an elite family whom we despise, then you are inferring that we know you, in order that we may despise you. How can this be, if the "true bloodlines" are the names and faces of people we do not know? Is it more the nature of your presence we despise or the position you take in life we despise?
And, if that is so, then do all people despise you or just those who do not know or understand your true intent and/or nature?
A:
Last time I will answer this one.
It is about the misconception about who rules.
Terms are being used which do not apply to my family yet they are part of the ruling. The flawed perception of the nature of the presence and the flawed perception about the positions which lead to affecting the lives of people...again, you are in control.
One cannot despise others because of one´s own lack of understanding about the matter, yet that is exactly what happens.
I.e. wrong target, wasted energy.
Q:
13, if the divinity is passed down through your blood, what type of blood/rh do
you and yours possess? Are you part of the Templars or involved with The Vatican?
A:
Divinity can choose to pass it´s power "down" however it wishes to. But the blood/genes/physical part is such a small part of how it goes. In fact it is not a necessity.....sounds like a contradiction?
No, the proof is around you.
Q:
"What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas". The ones up higher do it through the daily items
you consume."
I wanna know what you know about this.
A:
I do not know you personally, but I already know I do not eat or drink 90% of what you do daily (to throw in a percentage). I do not even come close touching them. It is pretty much everything sold with a few exceptions
here and there.
I must add that there are grades in this and it has a different effect on different people. To give examples of the 2 extremes of people who have been consuming
them for a long time; some when eating these almost get into a trance,
on others it has no effect whatsoever. Most people are somewhere in between,
it affects them in such a way that they do not notice. They wear out faster, get tired faster, grow older, think slower, focus on emotional/physical needs,
get health problems that were unheard of 200 years ago at that relatively young age, i.e. the quality of life declines.


you are eating or how your soda got prepared? When looking into it and finding all these agents and knowing what they are known to cause, ask yourself; would I put this agent into the mouth of my child and make him/her swallow it?
You are doing that everyday to your child.
Then there are electrical frequencies as you mentioned, it is everywhere and your house being the most active place. Have you ever cut the electricity off in your house to see what the difference in vibe is?
You sleep more comfortable for one.
Q:
And, who/ or what do the "elites" answer to?
A:
Everyone answers to the One eventually.
Q:
Ah the elite in the world, the so-called Jet-Set society. Beautiful to a pain, but always the same, repeatable features among their few types. All other reptilians, grays, hybrids, human sell-outs, bend a knee to this level.
A:
The jet-set has nothing to do with the bloodlines.....they are your blood.
Q:
Please tell me, what is your favorite occult subject?
A:
Nothing is hidden.




Answering certain questions or elaborating on certain issues will have the opposite effect of what needs to be achieved, it will not help you.














Is Moroni, who is mentioned in the Book of Mormon really an extraterrestrial from the Pleiades and are such beings still interacting with humanity at present?








If it is getting critical acclaim and being promoted heavily, you know what time it is. It may contain some truths, but they will be floating in a sea of perversions.


Some do (praise and recognition loving ones, the ones who "sold their soul"), some don´t and the latter get noticed and promoted because it serves them.
Nothing is easier than to write a best-seller book/hit album/movie script if you know what the highest promoter´s agenda is.




In this realm a Soul which was in a physical body once can not become an Angel, the Soul cannot transform into that, again in this realm, I repeat that firmly.


Mormonism has a core of truth (like the other religions), so reading the texts will not harm you as long you are cautious.








It is 1 part of the manipulation, it is used in combination with 6 other methods of control in your daily life.
If you can "delete" a few from your life or have less exposure to them, the effect will reduce dramatically, but this is not what will make you more self-conscious.
These methods are used to wear you out, lower your quality of life. They are interlinked.
The methods are:
1. Food and drinks
2. Medication, "Health care" (include vitamins)
3. Electrical waves (including your PC and cellphone, house electr. network, everything chipped)
4. Media, be it TV-radio-newspapers-magazines-internet (the most obvious method, yet the most enslaving)
5. Music, Sounds (different method than media, used in a different way although most times through the media)
6. Air pollution
7. Education system (including known literature which is mostly corrupt, be it history, psychology, metapsychology, "philosophy", art, science, poetry, religion, even fairy tales told to infants).
Politics takes these methods and bombard you with this every day and make sure they are maintained.
The rule is:
If promoted/praised/applauded/critically acclaimed/free, be very wary.
Be it food, medicines, latest technological product, "artist", politician, musician, book, show, beverage, etc.
Some of these allegedly "stand the test of time", that is orchestrated for a reason.
Problem is if too wary, you could miss a few gems that are deliberately passed on in between the manipulation tools by some.
There are a few other methods (societies/cults/sects, people policing each other, etc) but the above
6 are the core which has been promoted since the French "Revolution".
Temperance: conscious form of restraint based on self-knowing to achieve inner order of the Soul (which is the unseen you as a whole, the Soul is not a part of you, you are one). Restraining the emotions/desires/passions/energies does not mean cutting it off (that will harm you, beware), but channeling them to work for higher causes after taming them gently.
This all does lead to a sober life, yet simpler, filled with gifts because you fully become your own master, instead of your emotions/desires/passions dictating you how to be.
Simultaneously with this process you will be cleansing yourself and will be ready to be enlightened by the Universal Mind.
Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible.
Q:
1. do you have friends who you meet, from outside the bloodline?
2. Do you feel empathy, hate or remorse?
A:
1. Yes, but it is not a wise thing to know many people.


They have their foundation in this material/physical world.
The more you let them be your masters, the stronger you will chain yourself to this world, which is contrary to your duty, yet do not loath them, respect.
I channel them to a place where they can be used for something substantial.
Q:
So I am asking HOW does one re-connect with the divine source? HOW does one rise above this prison? A:
I reckon my answers today have covered that, if not to you personally ask again, I shall answer tomorrow.
Q:
I´m not saying each of us IS God, the Ultimate Source, but we are our OWN god due to the fact that we
CREATE our own reality! What say you Insider?
A:
You partially described free will and the impression it can give you, nothing more or less. Also the word "love" has many traps, especially the way you used it.
Q:
Re: earth is a prison ... Are you referring to Light trapped in matter? If yes, then I´m beginning to see all the points you´ve alluded to so far.
A:
Trapped would be the wrong word, it would imply that the Divine had wrong intentions. Rather, contructed in a way so... or envelopped through...
Comment by Insider:
3nd3r,
Some of the things you described are directly linked to the powers of the Universal Mind. Like I said, everyone can pick that up.
If you can it means you are at a higher stage than others, however beware of how you use it, it is not yours, not in this realm.
Also it could be a deceiving beginning of something else which many people experience.
I reckon 2 rituals would initiate you and let you truly see what it is but when the time arrives you will be guided to them.
Q:
they include the sheik in the desert whom Jesus encountered during his travels and from whom he received a blessing. Would you happen to know anything about that?
A:
I know some people which Jesus of Nazareth "happened to encounter" were insiders.
The 3 kings being the first right after his birth, which were actually 5 but 2 were present in the background (the number 3 in the story serves a symbolic purpose like so many things, read slowly).
The gifts were the symbolistic artifacts (some ancient) which through rituals would initiate him into his chosen task, for this he needed to travel to certain places.
I have said a few times and I will repeat for the last time, he was not the real Christ, he was made to appear like one by being guided throughout his life up to his death, and after that, the documenting of the words (which started long before his death, although rewritten again at a later time to release).
The 5 kings were present too during his crucifixion and Jesus of Nazareth knew, he would have responded differently if they were not there.
Jesus of Nazareth was always aware that he was being guided by them, in fact he sometimes actively searched for them and other insiders.
He gave up on 2 occasions but was guided back.
Q:
The ´Elite´ are making it (oil) look like it is being constantly restored, but are actually storing it. I`d appreciate your thoughts on this.
Candace Frieze`s writings
A:
The Earth is storing it untill they get used, the ones in power just tap into it.
Although there are some factions (above the puppets) and they are responsible for the misconception most have which you described together with the statement that the resources are disappearing.
It is the way I described in the former post.
The writing has some errors.
1. The Annunaki are rulers from a different era, they are gone and replaced by others.
10.000-15.000 years from now (yes, the Earth will be still alive) people will find texts about the rulers of this era thinking it still applies to theirs.
Those texts have been written for the major part already.
2. If what was written in this text was true, it would mean that at the moment the Earth, "star friends" and Angels would be now rebelling against the Divine Law of the One.....which is an abomination to even suggest (I had to be very carefull how to articulate that to not fall into the trap too).
If the person who wrote it does not restore it, she will achieve the opposite of what she desires and taking many Souls with her who accept this.
Again accept no human intervention between you and the Divine.
3. The struggle is on a personal level, that means you only can do it, do not wait for "saviours".
Q:
My only question now: Is it really THIS simple? I will not give away what you have knowingly or inadvertently revealed... I know now that what you say is true: This cannot be told, it must be discovered, for it has no power if it is revealed to one.
Is this the reason there is so much secrecy? Not so much that people won´t find out because it is an "just for the elite" but rather, that if they happened to be TOLD it, instead of discovering it they would never have any chance of escape?
A:
The Truth wants to be known by you, it is It´s main goal, inviting you every moment of your life, so to be understood by you It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence It is "in front of you".
The last question has a yes as an answer.
If you did find It, thank the Divine Law, nothing/nobody else. The journey just started, long path.
I may be back tomorrow.
9/28/2005
Statement by Insider which is about testing the new proxy:
Test
Q:
1)Is this simply an "upping of the ante" to test if I have the will to continue, or is there in fact a force that tries to keep people in a sleepwalking state? A force that does NOT want people to "be all they can be"?
If so, what is the best way to deal with it in your experience.
A:
It is connected to the operations of your physical body which rebels everytime you reach higher to that realm.
Physical body has the task to let you experience this reality and whenever you search for the other, it resists.
It is it´s duty so respecting it and gently taming it is the best approach.
Also beings will accompany your thoughts and try to divert them, again it is their duty, show respect and that will be recognised by them.
Never see them as malicious or evil, they only react to your actions.
There is not a force which does not want you to be what you really are, the opposite is true but they also have their tasks that they must fulfill.
This is about a material part of you.
Q:
Shall we forget everything we know? Shall we simply let go of our own Ego and accept a different paradigm altogether? THAT would be VERY difficult to do, as it has sustained us as individuals in this life. hmmmm......
A:
Recollect everything you used to know, devalue the things which were taught to you since you forgot the former and return.
Q:
What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?
A:
I have no children nor will I have one.
The first thing a baby does when born is cry.
It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief (you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you are now).


The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yet the impulses it gives makes the body cry.
It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power, be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...
That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forget faster than others.
This crying is different to the crying that follows after the first few months, one can even hear it. Comfort them during this crucial period of consciousness and make it known that the One has gifted them with a chance to return back to the place they belong.
This will have an impact which will influence them for the rest of their lives, subconsciously.
The time of birth was determined (as is the time of passing on), together with the enviroment, parents, circumstances of birth, health, etc...nothing is a coincidence.
But during puberty they get cut loose from certain strings and they will be fully responsible for their actions, having the free will to lead the life they want, they determine the quality of it....they can even determine the way they pass on ("death") by the choices they make but cannot change the time of passing on.
Just a few areas of their lives will be influenced by the tools that the parents have given them. Most of the child´s life will be based on free will, which will have very little to nothing to do with parents, you are only important in the first 5-6 years of the child´s life so that is where you can do most good.
Use your intuition (not instinct, 2 different matters).
When becoming a parent you are rewarded with qualities (which concern raising children) which where not available before, listen to them.
Every child is different, respond differently but make them aware there is more than they experience, that there is a Good Source where everything/everybody flows out of for a reason and
1 day they will return after realising their task here on Earth.
Do not tell this all at once but over years and do not tell more than this.
If done the right way they will start looking for it on their own for the rest of life, which is their duty.
If you present it to them in an obvious way (like religious people do), you will achieve the opposite.
Musical instruments were passed on in a different era for a reason and it was not just to listen to other people playing them.
Education: 1 method of manipulation (I have listed the others).
They will be manipulated, but after puberty they have an important opportunity to undo it. They will also get opportunities during the rest of their lives.
You cannot stop the manipulation, neither instigate an awakening, that is up to the child and how it responds to the tools provided to it.....the Mind of the Universe following Divine Law is always penetrating your child so it is being provided with the chance to awake every moment.
It is up to him/her.
Q:
What do you know of an advanced race who were (and some still are) worshipped as gods? Do you recognize any lords or deities?
A:
There is only 1 race at the present, not another special race that is above the other, people are confusing different matters and eras.
The One is worshipped/praised as what you call "god".
The word "god" is a corrupt term, it would imply that you as a human would have control over the invocated higher being (like before, I had to be carefull how to phrase it to not fall into the trap myself).
I would say do not use it, but it is your own choice with consequences.
The One has many manifestations/emanations/characteristics which are present in a hierarchy of beings with different workings but operating together.
All are incorporeal/immaterial although some may operate bodies in a fashion different to ours, some by lowering their frequency which is actually emanating a form from themselves, may appear in the material world.
All are praised for they are the One who creates the Good and they direct theirs to the One too.
You people worship some humans as "gods", be it "prohpets", "celebrity", sportsmen, politicians, autors, etc. which is an abomination.
Q:
What do you eat? Where does it come from?
A:
What nature provides directly.
I have a greenhouse which provides me with certain vegetables/fruit which sprang from uncontaminated seeds.
I have some healthy animals which provide me with meat, eggs, milk. I get my water from an underground spring.
For you to know, bread can be bought at small independent backeries, especially the "foreign" ones who do not use the same ingredients as the "natives", they are not free from them but better still.
Some of the food/drinks sold in these "foreign"-run shops will be better for you than the ones sold in supermarkets.
This is not how the rest of my family lives, they have "servants" which provide them with their needs with the products from their own properties/factories/farms/etc.
Q:
Insider, what can you tell me about Nikola Tesla?
Do you think he completed/failed his ´mission´ here on Earth?
A:
All knowledge is passed on, Tesla´s was too to him, they are not his original ideas.


Tesla made it public to the wrong people and ended the whole thing. Clever individual, not so clever human.
Insiders from the minority must be vigilant, because of these kind of events.
Q:
Are ther any wholesale events on the horizon that will translate into a quantum leap in mass consciousness and/or redefine life and the way it is lived?
A:
No, not like that.
As mentioned a few times it is on a personal level, meaning you getting selfconscious yourself through the tools available to you, I have described some as far as I am allowed to.
There may be an event which would alter the way civilisation is perceived now (it happened before many times) but that will have nothing to do with what you mentioned.
Your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same, no matter what happens.
Do not waste energy waiting for events, being generic and inanimate, your stay will only be extended.
I might add this which may sound contrary to what I said but read carefully:
When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want, which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works.
You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape.
Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are in full control.
So the people who are "waking up" to it are the ones who are creating it. Visualization also works that way around.
But I repeat, even if these things would happen your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same.
Q:
Have the husband/wife relationships of the "higher beings" been compromised? Have those created to be together by the One parted ways because they reject their duties?
If so, on which side of this rift do you reside? Is your God the Self Existent One?
A:
Again their is confusion about Higher Beings and the Souls in bodies be it bloodline or not. Higher Beings and Souls are different entities.
Higher Beings do not enter bodies in this era (which lasted longer than you think), they are incorporeal, do not experience this world like we do.
Souls are corporeal, we are in this material/physical plane and experience it´s low frequencies as reality, although we may float above it and experience the higher realm too.
I should talk about this briefly; you are not in the body but encompass/envelop it while being present in another invisible body which consists of similar elements to the Soul (which is you) yet this invisible body is entangled with the physical plane (this is very important for you to understand) and connects with the visible body through energies transmitted by the invisible
body to the brains, heart and areas in the spine, hence we (as Souls) may control the body and it´s functions, making us experience this realm.
Souls are dual, meaning you are also somewhere else, waiting to be united in another realm.
Some bloodlines refuse their duties just like non-bloodlines do, suffering the consequences connected to it.
Many bloodlines do not know either.
The "rift" is not were you think it is, it is on a personal level, meaning me and you too. I am from a minority within the faction which is getting smaller.
I explained why the word "god" is not used for it´s traps in the meaning.
The One is Self-Existent, Pure, Good and indeed the One who creates the Good.
Q:
Insider. Are you saying here that the "old" ways were based on truth and were correct? should we seek the old ways and follow them?
Is being in harmony with the "Mother" something we should seek?
Is the Devine One more interested in our hearts or our minds? which is stronger?
Were the teachings of Jesus regarding love a message that we should pay attention to? Are we stronger than you as a collective?
Are we imprisoned here because of our "sinful" nature or because of our lack of understanding.
A:
-The first appearences of knowledge are closer to the Truth than the latter ones.
Think of the ripple created in a pond when throwing something in it, the further the waves get from the core, the weaker they are, finally stopping.
4000 years ago is relatively young in this era.
Wrong translations, wrong interpretations/additions, deletions will mislead you.
Therefore search for the Mind of the Universe which will enable you to pick out the truths and later on directly pass it through.
-Being in Harmony with everything the Divine Law is providing us with which were designed to realise our return, without interpreting it in human terms.
-The Divine One IS, there is no "interested", "wanting", etc. although It´s emanations/manifestations/characteristics may act according to the One.
We do not have a Mind, we may interact with the Mind which may allow us to be become one with It.
To have something is owning it, owning means mastering it or having it under your control at the least....we do not master the Mind, neither do we control It.
Most confuse using intelligence with having a Mind while using the intelligence is merely an operation granted to us by the Mind.
A Soul does have different essences, it consists out of certain "parts-covers" although it is 1 being.
One of them could be called the Heart, that which connects to the spring of Life which keeps us alive, provided by the One through It´s emanations.
All essences are as important.
-Read this slowly:
Love, it is not to be understood in human terms, that is the corrupt version.
The teachings of the real Christ are not the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth although the latter adopted many from the former (I remember I would not mention it again but this context needs it).
The Christ has a different name but I will use this term because that is what people are familiar with.
The message was there since the real Christ revealed Itself in another era than ours. Jesus of Nazareth was part of our era.
There is a difference in the way it is being spread in Christianity and it is corrupt.
Without the appearence of the real Christ on Earth we would not know how to return for the Divine Law which through the Universal Mind allows us to ascend, was revealed by the real Christ.
Where we are, what, who, how, why, when, all revealed by It in accordance to the Will of the
Good One and the real Christ should get all the praise, it is crucial.
Not that It needs your praise, Higher Beings don´t need us for anything in our present form, but it is a way to let it be known that you are conscious about It.
You need the recognition that It grants you.
-Divinity can make 1 human be stronger in every way than all humans combined.
-What I am allowed to tell is that you are still here because of your lack of understanding. Do not think in "us" but "I".
The "us" will come later in another realm.
Q:
If the "Christ" came in another era, why did he fail his mission?
A:
Be careful with what you say, you are harming yourself.
The real Christ did It´s duty fully and succesfully, now it is your turn. If you fail do not blame The Divine.
Divinity is blameless in Earthly matters.
When you get sunburned, do you blame the Sun which maintains life on Earth and beyond or do you blame yourself for laying hours doing nothing on the beach without protection?
Statement by Insider:
This will be my last post, it is done.
This was according to the Divine Law which is above my family or anyone on Earth and beyond. The minority passes it on when ordered by the Higher Beings, understand this.
There are 2 undesired movements which were known to happen to me. I would have stayed longer, although most areas have been covered.
I answered as much as I was allowed to in the simplest manner I could. I had to write fast for a reason.
If you choose to:
Thank everyday the Good One where everything has it´s beginning for Being, for It´s Divine Law providing you with a chance to return to your original state, the realm you truly belong to, for It
´s power of Necessity applying the justified corrections that you experience everyday. Praise the Higher Beings who operate according to the One´s Divine Law, which are manifestations/emanations of the One, for providing the means of Life in all areas, sustaining them and providing these means for your benefit, guiding you to the release and more.
When addressing Divinity (read again) be careful to articulate well, do not demand, tell, beg, order, suggest, ask.....which are abhorrences, just state and do your duty.
Understand the questions I raised by answering you, I said more than you read, pass it on. Return.
　
　
　
　
That's when Insider disappeared, 4 days, 660 posts, 20,000+ views later and this all without being
´pinned´.
　
　
This thread moved many people deeply, that was noticeable by the posts which Insider rarely responded to, so they were left out in the answers, like Insider was not interested in the compliments, praises, thanks, insults, hate, fear.
　
　
A normal person would have countered but Insider was focused in getting as much information out as possible, not in arguing.
　
　
Was he truly an Insider? Was he a hoax?
Why leave after just a few days when the goal of a hoaxer would be attention or misinfo, stretching it for weeks, months and longer like others do?
　
　
Like Insider would say ´Your choice´.
　
　
　
　
　
　
　
　
　
　






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A Logos Dream for the September Equinox 2010

I experienced a dream within a dream September 24th, 2010, local Australia time and consider the implied imagery relevant enough to share with the Elders of Thuban.
The Full Moon of the September equinox also specifies a nexus midpoint in the warpzone timeline, as can be ascertained in the Stargate 2010 threads

The dream began with the sight of a hitherto generally 'unknown' ballistic supermissile being launched from somewhere from the planetary surface. I was positioned someplace on the ground observing the missile being launched some distance away from my observation locale.

The military hardware shot vertically upwards and pierced a mesospherical cloudcover at a hight of about 80 kilometers and passing the stratospherical regions of the limits for terrestrial aerodynamical flight.

The 'emotional impressions' surrounding this manouver engaged a 'human challenge' as to what was above the planetary atmosphere in a region beyond the terran airspace for airflight, that is the realm of spaceflight.
{On August 22nd, 1963, the rocket powered spaceplane X-15 attained an altitude of 108 meters and on October 4th, 2004, Spaceship One reached 112 kilometers; the latter inaugurating its first powered flight on the 100th anniversary of the first powered flight in 1903 by Orville and Wilbur Wright }.

Either the terrestrial military structures and 'defence forces' perceived an 'alien military threat' to their agendas; or the ballistic missile was launched to explore particular extraterrestrial realms behind the cloudcover for the planet.
This cloudcover was very distinct and appeared like a grey carpet of noctilucent polar mesospherical clouds, spanning the twilight sky in the dream.

After the ballistic missile had pierced the cloudy covering; a sense of expectation invaded the scenario.
It became clear, that the launchers of the missile expected feedback, say an electromagnetic signal about the successful completion of the mission.

However the reply from the military guidance system regarding the perceived military threat of an alien invader or a report about explored and observed extraterrestrial hardware resulted in a kaleidoscope of terrestrial confusion.

I could not see any exchange of objective hardware, terrestrial or extraterrestrial and the ballistic missile had disappeared; but a frenzy of 'defence mechanics' resulted in a global exchange and communication between many partners, oppenents and collaborators in a planetary realm. I now found myself located above this communication exchange and apparently at a vantage point above the polar noctilucent clouds of the mesosphere.

Worldwide media had begun to channel into a military command center and a distinct voice pervaded the airwaves all around the globe.

This announcer seemed to be in a position, where he could follow the developments of the occurrences triggered by the launching of the ballistic missile.

These occurrences appeared to be a kind of global appearance of similar objects to the ballistic supermissile, albeit not of the same magnitude or power; but I could not see any of them.
However, this exchange of (apparently) military hardware plunged the global populus into a frenzy.

The announcer did not directly describe destructive events; but rather accentuated the occurrences akin the reaching of a climax; say the first landing on the lunar surface as a inaugurating and paradigm changing event in the human history.

I cannot remember much detail, apart from this; but the commentator's account of the worldwide broadcast eventfulness ended with the statement: 'Somewhere in the North of France!".
Immediately after this, my deeper superconscious dreamstate transited to its shallower corollary of the subconscious alpha rhythm.
Tonyblue

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America's X Files: Top U.S. airmen to accuse Air Force of cover-up as they claim UFOs have been deactivating nuclear missiles since 1948


By Daniel Bates
Last updated at 3:58 PM on 28th September 2010



It may sound like a Spielberg movie plot, but if senior U.S. airmen are to be believed, this scenario is not science fiction.
They claim that since 1948, aliens have been hovering over UK and U.S. nuclear missile sites and deactivating the weapons– once even landing in a British base.
Furthermore, they warn, our governments are hushing the activity up.
Captain Robert Salas, who, along with six others is to break his silence on the subject, said: ‘We’re talking about unidentified flying objects, as simple as that.
‘They’re often known as UFOs, you could call them that.

Disruption: The group of veterans will claim on Monday that several nuclear missiles malfunctioned as UFOs hovered overhead


Captain Robert Salas accuses the U.S. Air Force of lying

‘The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it,’ he said.
The former officer said he witnessed such an event first-hand on March 16, 1967, at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana.
‘I was on duty when an object came over and hovered directly over the site.
‘The missiles shut down – ten Minuteman [nuclear] missiles. And the same thing happened at another site a week later. There’s a strong interest in our missiles by these objects, wherever they come from. I personally think they’re not from planet Earth.’
Colonel Charles Halt claims to have seen a UFO at RAF Bentwaters, near Ipswich, one of the few bases in the UK to hold nuclear weapons.
The sighting is said to have taken place 30 years ago. First he saw the object firing beams of light into the base then heard on the military radio that aliens had landed inside the nuclear storage area, he said.
‘I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted – both then and now – to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practised methods of disinformation.’
The six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man, are to present declassified information which they claim backs up their findings.

RAF Bentwaters USA airbase in Rendlesham, Suffolk. Aliens fired beams of light at the base 30 years ago, it has been claimed.




Controversial: At the event in Washington on Monday the men will release declassified U.S. government documents which they say back up their claims

They have witness testimony from 120 former or retired military personnel which points to alien intervention at nuclear sites in the U.S. as recently as 2003.
They will urge the authorities to confirm that alien beings have long been visiting Earth.
A press conference today in Washington will also highlight testimony from retired U.S. Air Force Captain Bruce Fenstermacher, whose security team saw a cigar-shaped UFO hovering above FE Warren nuclear base in Wyoming in 1976.
Researcher Robert Hastings, who has written on the subject, explained that so far the aliens appeared interested in ‘mere surveillance’ but warned they seemed to have gone further in some instances.
‘At long last, all of these witnesses are coming forward to say that, as unbelievable as it may seem to some, UFOs have long monitored and sometimes tampered with our nukes,’ he added.

The truth is out there: Author and veteran Robert Hastings will host the press conference tomorrow


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Questions from an Elite blind man:

Originally posted by Rok

Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my condolences.
How is that so. By what "law" does this apply. Intent of the word? Cussing at the "divine one" ?
Should we stop at the "bad words" itself and what they are? Is it a problem to say "nigger" or is it the problem in the racist person that said it?

Given the above from the "insider" and my past and also at times current life (this time around) i am here for...a long, loooooooooong, loooooooooooooong time....
It also mentions the "sin". Doing something not in congruence with what is labeled as "divine law" is to be a sin.... This sounds..."troubling"....

If each thought, that may or may not lead into speaking it - word, it instantly manifested on a higher (4th) level of existence and contributes to the whole of what there is regarding this existence we are experiencing....thus there is the "registry" of thoughts with and effects...or to say...a "database" of individual contributions by which once can be properly "rewarded" for doing it?


There is no end of time.
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.
Does this mean 2012 will not be a big bang event? We shall not be devoured by a giant solar flare or some similar "nonsense" ?
Also...1 by 1...step by step...does this imply there will be no such thing as mass ascension from now till the march of 2013 or how is it (not sure about the month). Or will there be the "selected few" while the rest..."move on"? Or does that again depend on the before mentioned "database".


Q:Hey 13 --I´m not coming back to your planet next time. Smoke on that.
A:What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?
This reminds me on one of my threads way back on AV1...and also a post made in thuban thread....where you Tony somewhat agreed that free will IS...but it is limited...i think it was like that... I would say free will, as we know it, is a new age concept and thus should be reconsidered in full...it just does not add up....given many many things.... Or again...do we go to the "database" concept? While "down here" one is allowed to do what one wants to do...it all gets recorded...and than....there is a "trial" and given ones "contribution" we are to be judged?


Q:Is Earth a prison?
A:Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.
Is this an actual reality/illusion or just a degradation of what is called human existence...trying to give it less meaning and importance that it actually has? Along with labeling with words such as "peasant" and "slave". I wonder...why did the Mr. Elite Insider use insults if he himself/herself is so "high up" and in the service of benevolent beings and law? Also by referring to earth as prison...and people here prisoners...this implies that at "one point in time" something was done wrong and a criminal "colony" was created? What was done wrong? This could also support my "database" concept.


The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber. The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
I too wondered (yes it can happen) about the strange looking pictures of the big pyramid and that "funny" underground chamber thingy.
So what about the underground chamber?


Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.boogy woogy! How about emotions? Are emotions based on physical impulses? Are emotions irrelevant?


There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail. If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.
U get the experience of what you think which confirms your thinking? So yes in that case...I am my own enemy...i think i even managed to climb to that point in original thuban thread....just that...it can wonder the mind (yes once again) about...given the society structure and norms...how to bypass that without being drained by it? If for nothing else people have to work. This might sound as a simply every day thing....but it is in fact...an enormous set back for most...the chain of events it can "bring" is infinite...not the tables and date this creates in the "database".



The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Ok so if a divine law puts the individual into the circumstances individual is in...and IF that circumstances consist of a defective environment (more than in generally already is)...so the child is ...purely hypothetical...raised with the F word...and so child itself uses the F word just the same as some other child raised in more "appropriate" environment would use the "hello" word...than the impeccable divine law put that individual into the circumstances that would, be themselves, guarantee that that specific individual would have to live more and more life times by uttering the F word and it is perfectly ok that that is so (given the law)...OR...if the child is not aware of the meaning it does not work like that or it depends on the intent...for which i am sure....child can intuitively fully grasp from its immediate environment (the intent that is...and how it works...the fine mechanics of it). Btw those of you who read this...saying it or writing it is like thinking it...according to Mr. Elite Insider....you are up for at least one more life. Condolences...

OR

the database can be applied here as well


The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
Ok...so there are superior beings....and "naive" me thinking that all existence is equally important with no "betters" and "leasers"?
What is the realm we originally belonged to? Why are we not there anymore? Who i am superior to and who am i inferior to? Also..so if i do good (good as defined by the superior) i can than advance on the hierarchy? What are the hierarchy levels?


This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.
By the LIGHT! This just shatters it all, doesn't it? Do not even know where to start here...SO...i will not start at all. Maybe later


you must know yourself and what this place is
let us all contemplate this in silence....i ll do it to...after i move to me moon ......no silence here....


Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe
The so called super light..the original thought?

And...i am out of time...came to "Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?" part today.

Tonyblue answers:

_Rok_ - Posted 18 Minutes Ago



Questions from an Elite blind man:


Hi Rok; indeed the blindness of literal interpretation not utilizing deeper insights is a great encumbrance to understanding the written word, which is often multileveled in external (for the less discerning and underinformed) and internal (or hidden or occultized) meanings and interpretations.



Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my condolences.


How is that so. By what "law" does this apply. Intent of the word? Cussing at the "divine one" ?
Should we stop at the "bad words" itself and what they are? Is it a problem to say "nigger" or is it the problem in the racist person that said it?
Given the above from the "insider" and my past and also at times current life (this time around) i am here for...a long, loooooooooong, loooooooooooooong time....
It also mentions the "sin". Doing something not in congruence with what is labeled as "divine law" is to be a sin.... This sounds..."troubling"....
If each thought, that may or may not lead into speaking it - word, it instantly manifested on a higher (4th) level of existence and contributes to the whole of what there is regarding this existence we are experiencing....thus there is the "registry" of thoughts with and effects...or to say...a "database" of individual contributions by which once can be properly "rewarded" for doing it?


Just what is said in the above, when a reader reading words, becomes personally and emotionally 'engaged' and beginning the inherent mental 'defence mechanisms' in built in the human DNA, say in the 'fight or flight' response.

The 'elitists' know the 'human response mechanics' rather well; spendiong their lives in analysing and studying human history in minute details and unencumbered by fiscal or 'making a living' restraints.

Words such as 'nigger' or 'sin' or whatever carry connotations in context and the 'casual reader' 'falls for the traps hidden' in the contexts of the words expressed - such as sexism, racism, dogma under whatever label and so on.

You are correct in stating that the 'intent' manifests immediately in a higher dimensional context, where the energy is archetypal, meaning it is symbolic in shapes and geometries, which later can, and at a much slower pace, manifest in material realities.

This 'data base' is indeed the 'repository of every soul' and its intent and superconscious expression noone can escape. From this developed ideas of karma and 'what goes around comes around'!



There is no end of time.
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.

Does this mean 2012 will not be a big bang event? We shall not be devoured by a giant solar flare or some similar "nonsense" ?
Also...1 by 1...step by step...does this imply there will be no such thing as mass ascension from now till the march of 2013 or how is it (not sure about the month). Or will there be the "selected few" while the rest..."move on"? Or does that again depend on the before mentioned "database".


The 2012 event is indeed a higher-dimensional nexus point, which will END the 'imprisonment' of particular thought structures or memeplexes, especially those embodied in the 'holy books', prophecies and all kinds of 'predictions' and visions.

How PHYSICAL this event will become in time, depends on the manner how the collectivity of the human group consciousness responds and processes certain 'trigger events', like the actual higher-D transformation of a golfball sized Black Hole at the center of the terrestrial planet.

This event will not be seen as such, but will result in a RELEASE of the Gaian 'consciousness' manifested and processed since its planetary beginnings in 3D space reality so 4.5 billion years ago.



Q:Hey 13 --I´m not coming back to your planet next time. Smoke on that.
A:What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?


This reminds me on one of my threads way back on AV1...and also a post made in thuban thread....where you Tony somewhat agreed that free will IS...but it is limited...i think it was like that... I would say free will, as we know it, is a new age concept and thus should be reconsidered in full...it just does not add up....given many many things.... Or again...do we go to the "database" concept? While "down here" one is allowed to do what one wants to do...it all gets recorded...and than....there is a "trial" and given ones "contribution" we are to be judged?


You are taking many things this 'insider' states too personal and 'out of context'. He seemingly replied to a great number of 'nonsense questions' and 'statements' at the GLP forum, many of whom are NOT reproduced here. This is stated at a number of places here and the full context can be analysed in following the given link to that site.

Your comments above about 'judgment' and 'trials' and so on are more reflective of particular uncertainties and 'fears' within yourself, than the actual meaning of 'free will' as I would have described it on the Thuban thread.

To recall; 'Free Will' relates to the 'remembrance of yourself' about yourself from the superconscious level of what you truly are. Your 'normal' consciouis state is just so 1 part in 57 or so 1.7% of your 'true self'. Your subconscious is so 12.3%, leaving your superconscious awareness 'hidden' in almost 86% - no wonder people cannot remember themselves.

'Free Will' on your 'superconscious Logos self' is indeed SUBJECT to the master template of the World Logos, the master plan of the Universe itself; its evolvement and path into cosmic history and adventure say.

On your path of remembrance however, the 'Free Will' is coloured by your ignorance and your forgetfulness and so serves a number of purposes besides your own 'remembrance', such as giving feedback to the 'other searchers' and your environments, you are encountering on your journey.



Q:Is Earth a prison?
A:Yes and even worse. The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.


Is this an actual reality/illusion or just a degradation of what is called human existence...trying to give it less meaning and importance that it actually has? Along with labeling with words such as "peasant" and "slave". I wonder...why did the Mr. Elite Insider use insults if he himself/herself is so "high up" and in the service of benevolent beings and law? Also by referring to earth as prison...and people here prisoners...this implies that at "one point in time" something was done wrong and a criminal "colony" was created? What was done wrong? This could also support my "database" concept.


Again, why are you so defensive about words? Should I call you a forgetful boy, sitting in a sandpit, attempting to play with matches to figure out what a fire is; (something I am not contemplating); would you 'get all upset' about my perceived 'superiority' contra your 'inferiority'?

This is termed 'a mental complex' and ignores the very simple concept of 'Mr. Elite' being a single piece of a jigsaw puzzle, say as a tapestry on a cosmic wall and just like you.

Like the 'ascension', which is actually a 'descending' and the 'homecoming'; there will be pioneers, showing the way for others; more adventurous 'souls' or tapestry pieces, who awaken earlier than others. They are however equal 'brothers and sisters' and of no more IMPORTANCE than any other such piece, might this other piece be the president of the United Staes or the gutter sweeper in Calcutta.

It's like a play you are watching as an audience. You are most likely to be part of the audience to be entertained. But you could also be the scriptwriter, the director, the producer or one of the actors.

So the 'Free Will' in this case results in a question, you are asking yourself from the superconscious level of the 86% of the nonremembrance of your superego as a 'divine egocentricity' hidden in your superconsciousness, also often called 'Christ Consciousness'.

The question becomes: What role do I choose to play in participation in the theatre of 'Human Life'? Will it suffice for me to be a spectator, or do i choose to manifest the 'play'?

Your notions on criminal colonies etc, relate to some particular archetypes about the 'Nephilim', the 'fallen angels', the Atlanteans and the Annunaki and 'star wars'; all of whom have become outdated and outmoded by the World Logos, activating the warpzone.

The 'database' is however magnificently appropriate; but not oin the 'New Age' scenario, you seem to be implicating.

The 'prison' colony is actually the dual focalisation of the universe as a 'central sun' requiring its 'mirror'. From this cosmic FACT, evolve concepts such as Nemesis and Nibiru and 'something' visiting the earth to 'reclaim' some ancient heritage and legacy.

The factuality engages the so called Lagrangian Equilibria (Hill Sphere of LP1 in the lexicons of science), situated as a 'Space Bubble', situated so 2 million kilometer from the center of the earth.

At this point in physical terms, the gravity of the focal sun (Rahsol) finds itself in equilibrium with the gravitational pull from the earth (Gaia=Nemesis).

Therefore the origin of the material universe engaged the establishment of a central representative Star, imaged in an 'empty focus' in terms of the Star system, but occupied by a 'Destined Dark Sun', namely Gaia the StarPlanet.

When this representative Star was born from a galactic nebula with its own represenntative Galactic SuperStar (Hunab Ku) so 4.7 billion years ago; the potential for the representative Solar System also became potential physical reality and this manifested a physical planet called Terra for the 'Archetyped Cosmic Mother' termed gaia as the 'Spirit' and the 'Cosmic Consciousness'.




The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber. The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.

I too wondered (yes it can happen) about the strange looking pictures of the big pyramid and that "funny" underground chamber thingy.
So what about the underground chamber?


The 'underground chamber' is very simply the Octagon of this pyramidal shape, say ion mirror imagery or reflection.

Consider the Pyramid to be Half of the Octagon say as seen as the top part of a rainbow the other part being 'hidden' inside the earth, being occultized. This becomes a most dominant symbol for the 'elitists' in the 'Seal of Solomon', being an upper light or white UPWARDS pointing equilateral triangle, coupled with a black DOWNWARDS pointing equilateral triangle and AS the Star of David (Flag of Israel).


Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.
boogy woogy! How about emotions? Are emotions based on physical impulses? Are emotions irrelevant?


Again, you are overreacting, without deeper thought. The physical is not important in a certain perspective and is superimportant from a similar perspective.

Relative to your 'true self' your physicality is like your wardrobe; you change your attire as you please and even throw something you dont fancy anymore into the fire or the rubbish bin.

Yet relative to your 'grander plan', your embodiment is your raison d'entre for being here in incarnation as primal purpose and aim. Your emotions become the energy realm for you to maximize your learning and self-remembrance patterns.

In particular, your ENERGY of emotionality is metaphysically defined, (the physical brainwave patterns etc, only representing a miniscule effect in say biochemical dynamics of this energy); serving to allow your 'soul' and logos-Logos coupling to synergize the two cosmic modes of frequency modulations in extremum.

This is perhaps more easily understood as the dichotomies between 'mind and body' and 'good and evil' and 'chicken and egg' and such things, scientifically collected in the label of Descartian or Cartesian Dualism.


There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail. If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.

U get the experience of what you think which confirms your thinking? So yes in that case...I am my own enemy...i think i even managed to climb to that point in original thuban thread....just that...it can wonder the mind (yes once again) about...given the society structure and norms...how to bypass that without being drained by it? If for nothing else people have to work. This might sound as a simply every day thing....but it is in fact...an enormous set back for most...the chain of events it can "bring" is infinite...not the tables and date this creates in the "database".


Indeed, you got this 'right' and there is no easy way 'out'. The life in the physical body is basically no more than a kind of imprisonment for the true you' as say a soul of the Creator, who represents very simply the collection of 'All Souls, inclusive of all ETs and lifeforms anyplace and anytime.

Part of the master plan is however to TRANSFORM the mortal 'attire' of the soul into a kind of indestructability, yet retaining the sensual experience of the say, 3D material sensory apparatus - your human form or morphogenetic Gestalt (Rupert Sheldrake). So you might see a grandeur inherent in this m'master plan', which nevertheless will entail much physical suffering and individuated 'despondencies'.

The omni-science for this potential transformation engages the nature of what consciousness is in physical terms and such things, therefore bridging the gap between the 'body' and the 'spirit' in rendering both subject to redefinition and reconfiguration using the Laws of Nature and NOT some supernatural 'New Age' BS.

The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.

Ok so if a divine law puts the individual into the circumstances individual is in...and IF that circumstances consist of a defective environment (more than in generally already is)...so the child is ...purely hypothetical...raised with the F word...and so child itself uses the F word just the same as some other child raised in more "appropriate" environment would use the "hello" word...than the impeccable divine law put that individual into the circumstances that would, be themselves, guarantee that that specific individual would have to live more and more life times by uttering the F word and it is perfectly ok that that is so (given the law)...OR...if the child is not aware of the meaning it does not work like that or it depends on the intent...for which i am sure....child can intuitively fully grasp from its immediate environment (the intent that is...and how it works...the fine mechanics of it). Btw those of you who read this...saying it or writing it is like thinking it...according to Mr. Elite Insider....you are up for at least one more life. Condolences...

OR

the database can be applied here as well


I agree here; the 'Insider' is displaying his 'human judgmental nature' contrary to his 'better knowing'. However what he is inferring with his 'judgmental statements', is that the 'part of the creator soul experiencing whatever; is doing this on behalf of the superconsciousness. This does however not imply, that the 'evil deeds' and such are simply part of a cosmic necessity to Experience for the Worldsoul (say of God).

Rather is serves a very particular and important purpose, namely to manifest a repository data base of the POTENTIAL for 'EVIL=LIVE' for the entire Cosmic family in the Universe to consider and cherish as a information about the Cosnsequences of those selfsame 'evil deeds' and the suffering it causes FOR the Worldsoul.

In other words, because the Worldsoul experiences THROUGH the 'evil and the good'; and because the World-Soul is scattered and dispersed throughout the universe, however using Gaia as the 'Mother Experience'; all of the cosmic family can SHARE in the Gaian Experience of the 'Good and Evil' Dichotomy, but WITHOUT having to experience the physical suffering and 'bad' consequences of the 'evil activities'.

So imagine an ET evolved sentience learning (say in watching a film or video broadcast on some ET channel and computer screen of history recall) about the history of this 'Motherplanet' Gaia; where the forgetful ancestors of the ET student waged 'war' against each other as nations or as families and clans and as individuals; shot and threw atom bombs at each other; committed all sorts of atrocities, against the 'cosmic law' in killing and harming and abusing each other in countless methods and activities.

This Extraterrestrial descendant of the human supergenome of the 'emotional energy potential' will quickly learn how NOT to BE a galactic and extragalactic civilisation.



The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.

Ok...so there are superior beings....and "naive" me thinking that all existence is equally important with no "betters" and "leasers"?
What is the realm we originally belonged to? Why are we not there anymore? Who i am superior to and who am i inferior to? Also..so if i do good (good as defined by the superior) i can than advance on the hierarchy? What are the hierarchy levels?


We are the 'Ancient Ones' on the soul level; just as Alex Collier claims. We are the 'Dragons of Thuban'; all of us, all human incarnates anyplace and anytime; all the 'evil ones' and all the 'good ones'.

The royal blood is all of us, not only the 'elitists' and the 'royals' and the 'aristocrats'. This is the 'Dragon Blood', the Elders of the Elders; all forgotten by all ETs NOT incarnated upon Gaia. The difference between the 'insiders' and the 'outsiders' and the 'rulers' and the 'masses' is not birthright, as the 'Insider' wrongly claims, but correctly 'self corrects'; but remembrance and intent of the human mindfulness.

The elitists have access to the database collected by the human history and they have 'shaped' this history to serve their own 'remembrance' of being of royal cosmic blood. So it becomes a question of KNOWING this history.

The global elite is basically aristocratic in terms of birthright. They consider themselves as the REAL inheritors of the archetypical promises and encodings. They KNOW that the master key is the 'Gospel of Thomas' and the prophetic books in all sorts of scriptures, but predominantly the Christian Bible. They consider themselves the 'Bloodline of David and Solomon' and so they consider themselves the successors of the Lion of Judah (incarnated as the World Logos in a simple man of remembrance named Jesus of Nazareth).

They KNOW, that the scriptures WILL and MUST be fulfilled in the 'Cosmic Law', the 'Insider' is hinting at. They so attempt with all their might to 'forestall' and preemt any ET invasion, as you can ascertain in the V-TV-Series and fear-mongering movies like 'Independence Day' and '2012'.

Perhaps you can now see why this present time is so 'secular' and why all sorts of 'prophecies' etc are DEBUNKED, even by the mainstream 'New Age'. The 'great falling away' is from the KEY to manifest the 'Great Rebirth of a New Virgin Universe'; say as the New Heaven and Earth of Revelation - the 'New Jerusalem' as a City of God, descending from the 'New Heaven'.

The'aristocratic royal bloodline' takes all of this 'debunked' and mainstream ridiculed material VERY serious indeed.

However, despite all their cunning and ingeniousness; they could NOT hitherto decipher the details of the 'warptimes', though they understand rather well that the 'warpzone' of the 'last days' are indeed upon the Gaian populace.

And of course, due to their 'self-importance'; the 'elitists' have misinterpreted the archetypical and symbolic 'encoded' masterplan' of the 'Word of the Logos', who did compose this plan as a template through the 'prophets' and wisdom keepers, who became say empowered to compose those things by the 'Logos frequency' aka the 'Love of God'.

Furthermore of course, the 'behaviour' and activity of the 'royal elite' is necessity for the 'Grand Plan' to manifest the maximum polarisation and dichotomy to accelerate the 'emotional groupmind' of the Gaian planetary consciousness to its nexus completion; comprised of required stages of 'Insemination'; 'Gestation-Pregnancy'; 'Birth' and 'Weaning' of the Virgin Cosmos - then retemplated as a 'New Earth Gaia' and a reconfigured Cosmoloical
Evolution.

Only Gaian incarnation into the Imprisonment of the Human mortal bodyform qualifies any ET to aspire to the Elderness of the 'Ancient Cocreators'.

Therefore you can perhaps discern, that most, if not all humans must be Extraterrestrials in 'disguise'. So where do you come from?Can you begin to IMAGINE yourself to have come from 'outer space'.

If you can IMAGINE, then you might be able to IMAGE yourself holographically and CREATE yourself as an ET from Outer Space as being simultaneously from your 'Inner Space'

These kind of 'perceptions' are what the 'elitists' KNOW about and continually entertain in their PARTIAL remembrances.

So they wish NOT to share this knowledge with their 'subordinate workers' and so the mainstream media and 'official learning channels' are utilized to ridicule and debunk this kind of 'grandiose thinking patterns and modalities'.

Those kinds of thoughtforms must remain 'secret and sequestered' as the priviledge of the real metaphysical and spiritual 'ruling class'.




This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.

"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.


By the LIGHT! This just shatters it all, doesn't it? Do not even know where to start here...SO...i will not start at all. Maybe later.


Yes, you should indeed think long and deeply, before jumping to conclusions.
The 'negative' entities are your 'Inner Space' also mirrored in your 'Outer Space'; perhaps you can understand this and then deduce that the 'evil ETs' and the 'deviates', sexual and otherwise are related to the 'Greater Agenda' of HARMONIZING the animal and 'evil' instincts with their gander self expressions.

So indeed; YOU and YOU alone are the 'Perpetrator' of everything that exists under the Cosmoc Sun of the 'Prime Creator' Collective.

So can you then 'Live' by the Grander Motto of the Logos: "To the Pure All Things are Pure!"?


Titus1:

14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.


16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.



you must know yourself and what this place is


let us all contemplate this in silence....i ll do it to...after i move to me moon ......no silence here....

Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe

The so called super light..the original thought?


Yes, you could call it that and the Quantum Energy which is the foundation of the universe in an awakening selfstate of beingness.



And...i am out of time...came to "Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?" part today.


Yes and as much 'connection' as you yourself exhibit.

Thank you for your questions; I hope to have answered them appropriately.

Tonyblue

Rok~ Posted Sep 27th

Thank you for the given answers.


There is not so much in my comments as one would wan to see..given the overacting and such...questions is a question as deep as the original comment ....if that was put in general so was the rest.


hve fun

Rok

Macha Reina - Posted 18 Hours Ago


WOW ... such an Interesting thread ! Rok -- i GREATLY appreciate your questions ... these, along with Tony's answers, provided a Good Bit of ELUCIDATION of this guy's posts. Here are a few questions of my own:


1) What did this "Elite" person mean by the term "Proxy?" WHY did he need to use proxies (whatever that means) and WHY did they keep disappearing ? He (she?) indicated that he was typing "hurriedly" ... at least in PART because his proxies kept disappearing ?? and then later he seemed to indicate his final Post was somewhat premature, (though he also said he had covered MOST of what he had intended to already) because of "2 movements." what does THAT mean??? also at the end he seemed to imply that his decision to dialog on GLP was in obedience to Divine injunction ... which superceded even his allegiance to "Family." and then he mentioned that the "Minority" faction which he belonged to was shrinking. did ya'll get the impression that this exchange he entered into with us "peasants" was a courageous act on his part that he might actually "pay a price" for??? and that this "Minority" among the Elite bloodlines might be shrinking because the Majority Elite are in conflict with the Minority re: communication with the "peasants" ... or some such difference in opinion about tactical issues. He definitely stated that the Elite could fail to adhere to Divine purpose, as can we all. (i realize this is a BUNCH of questions, not just one, but all having to do with one subject at least.)


Hi there Starmother!

Proxy means 'substitute' so he seems to describe his own position as a 'shadow walker' a stand-in, who due to whatever 'pressures' and/or obligation to his 'elitist family-clan' will not be able to interact and behave like an 'ordinary' person, common man/woman or contributor.

I do understand how this 'elitist clan' thinks and behaves, as they have (like the Logos family) a similar 'nous' about the 'greater cosmos' and how the universe works; what it is, where it comes from and where it is going so to say.

However, I dont know any details about this character, say on any sort of personality level; so I am unwarranted and disqualified to comment on any of those issues. I have used this data, shared by Raven, to underpin the GENERALITY of the modus operandi of the 'elitists', who, as he states, are BEYOND the PTB, as say defined by the New Agers (any labeled personalities in the mainstream media say).

Yes, I would say your discernments are appropriate' regarding his position. He thought, that his 'minority group' is like a rebel faction within the 'Elite' and so he is restricted in his 'disclosure', though and because he understands the 'Cosmic Masterplan'; he feels obliged or inclined to 'share' publically in a quasi-disclosure.

And yes the 2 factions are determinative. The bigger faction has interpreted the 'master codes' from another viewpoint than the 'smaller' faction.

I can state the common understanding like this.

Separation of the Oneness within Individuated Unity is Cosmic Law and equivalent to Unity of this selfsame Oneness within Separation!

Now the difference here is rather subtle and one is required to think and ponder this deeply.

The greater part considers the Common Cosmic Law as being the 'Individuated Oneness in Separation' as OVERRULING its corollary of the 'Separated Individual within the Oneness'.

The smaller part, follows the latter equal manifesto of the same Cosmic Law.

Now the New Agers often term this the 'Service to Self' as the former and the' Service to Others' as the latter; both are ill defined and mislabeled; as both codes honour the same cosmic law and a law which is IMPARTIAL.

But a little deep thinking might clarify for you what the difference here is.

'Individuated Oneness in Separation' means Eternal Dispersion WITHOUT some Envelope or encompassment of ythe 'Love letters' (namely all that exists as lifeforms and All That is) of the creator.

Its the 'Devil's Law' - everyone for themselves as all are THE ONE see. And there is nothing 'wrong' with that as all are the One in the holograms or 'shards' of the original creator 'breaking' himherself into those pieces or shards see?

But following this 'correct' cosmic law; will NOT allow the creator to BE herhimself again and so BAN the Original Creator Oneness, then without a physicaslised universe defined in space, matter and time and such things; into a Eternal Exile.

In science this becomes the 'Devil's Cosmology and the Word of the Devil as the Father of All Lies' - the Lie becoming RELATIVE to the Antilie or Truth to the way of thinking of the thinker-soul see - of many worlds drifting apart and the multiverses, all independent of each other. It is the 'Divide and Conquer' mindset and way of perceiving and thinking.

The second interpretation of the 'Separated Individuality within the Oneness' resurrects the Creator as the all encompassing Unity 'around everything'.

This is the Logos message of the incarnated 'Word of God' becoming the Truth relative to that Word and a Lie relative to the Antiword (of the Devil being simply the Image of the God). So just as when you look into a mirror you see a True Image which however DEPENDS on you to exist as the Real Image caster; the 'Devil' is the Image of God, relatively unreal to God as the Truth and stuff like that. It's Bigmo's balloon on the Thuban thread on Project Avalon remember.

So this interpretation of the cosmic laws allows you to become the hologram for the entire universe; say like a grandchild mirrors its grandparents genetically, or like a Mother-Daughter ambassadoraship.

So all people can become the Individuated Creator-Creation modality and doing so will give the creator back what he seemingly lost when he made her as the universe and more on top of that.

Because should the 'shards' or dta collectors on behalf of Gos and Logos, become selfconscious of what they are; then they will literally recreate and reproduce the creator-creation within themselves and nothing is lost but everything is gained in bringing the creator alive within his creation namely Big She of Her.

So effectively this renders the Father and Mother of All That Is as Grandparents of then You and all who can pull of the coups of the selfremembrance and the Imagings of the Imaginations as the New Fathers and Mothers and so as the Sons and Daughters of the Cosmos.

This then is the 'masterplan' of the Logos in a nutshell and the 'Insider' seems to know what i just said - having apparently obtained the necessary insights and gnosis from the 'secret books' like the Gospel of Thomas and the cosmic (not human minded) decoding of the 'sacred scrolls' like say the older versions of the 'bible', the koran, the kabbalah , the vedas and so on.


Tony -- what about his INSISTENCE that Jesus of Nazareth was NOT the Christ ??? does that not TROUBLE you at all?? i realize you tend to use the term "World Logos" in reference to Jesus as the incarnate vehicle for divinity ... but is that totally DIFFERENT from the term "Christ Consciousness" used by Mr. Elite? and .... who do you think he is referring to as the REAL incarnation of the Christ ... who lived in MUCH more ancient times apparently (an earlier "era" he said) than did Jesus??? and why did he not reveal this person's identity ?? is that because such a revelation would fall into the category of giving us information that we are supposed to discover for ourselves ? i am HIGHLY curious about your resolution of these apparent paradoxes.


Yes Barbara of the Windy Hills; this reads as a rather discomforting collection of statements, does it not?

And yet 'Mr. Elite' is basically and bluntly correct. But what he basically says, is that the Jesus as portrayed by DOGMATIC RELIGION is indeed a fake and even the 'False Prophet' as the adjutant of the 'Beast of Babylon' rising from the Sea in Revelation.13.

The REAL Jesus is the World Logos and say as magnificently portrayed in the Gospel of John.1.1.; this entire (not historical) gnostic gospel (the other 3 are synoptics and more historical, but still only to 20% or less):

"In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word became God".

What this means, is that the Real Jesus is as old as the creation; so to differentiate the incarnation of this Logos who is Jesus of Nazareth from this much older archetype, called say Emmanuel Melchisedec in the Old Testament as the 'Prince of Peace' 'blessing' Abraham; the 'insider' makes a distinction between this incarnated Man-Logos and the Supreme Word of God; who Jesus the Man discovered and was able to internalise and make his own.

In other words Jesus the Man BECAME this Logos he was before NOT in incarnation by and through remembering the STORY OF GOD. This is why Jesus of Nazareth is termed a 'substitute' by the 'insider'; a stand-in for a much older and cosmic CHRIST.

This Christ is also Hermes Trismegistos in say 'Lineage' of the Kabbalah, the Melchizedek of the Dead Sea Scrolls (Essenes), the Pigeradamas of the Apocryphon of John, Thoth, Purusha of the Vedas and the 12th Imam of the Koran and Kukulkan and the Plumed Serpent of the Mayans and the Massau of the Hopi and so on and even the GREEN MAN of the Rebirth (that is WHY Mary magdalene calls him the Gardener after the resurrection in encoding see - another secret revealed to you).

All of these labels DID NOT exist in persona - only Jesus could embody the Logos. The others are like 'gods', teachers from the stars (Hopi and Mayan say) and mythological wisdom bringers and keepers.

I am not convinced that the 'insider' has as thorough an understanding of the World Logos, as I have stated here; but he is rather close and attuned to what I have just written.

The archetype of the 'Virgin Birth' and the 'Redemption' and the 'Eucharist' and so on are all very much older, than Christian history; but became confiscated by the 'Holy Roman Empire', blending the stuff POLITICALLY with the imperial pagan 'religions' of the druids and the native cultures and so on and for the purpose to control their 'constituents' and Roman citizenry.

This then is something the 'insider' knows very well and why he denigrates organised religion. He for example knows the intricate partnership between the Vatican Bank (money laundering as the Vatican is a political state on its own right see) and the International Monetary Fund and the Federal Reserves, all linked to the 'Royal Bloodlines' as the 'ancestors of David's Israelite rulership' and the inheritors of the Abrahamic promises' etc. etc.

Well, I feel this exposition has put your mind to rest about the Real Jesus. This One is the one you Love, but is caricatured by all of the dogmas and this perhaps will make you a little uncomfortable. I have posted a relevant video of Bishop John Selby Spong of the Episcopal-Anglican Church. he is retired now and is considered a Rebel and a little heretic by the dogmatic ecclesia.
His most recent book is entitled, Eternal Life: A New Vision Beyond Religion, Beyond Theism, Beyond Heaven and Hell in which he offers a vision which transcends religion itself and encourages us to enter into a new way of being - in relationship with each other and the universe - thereby experiencing eternity NOW.

John Selby Spong is general, but I support his cosmogony and he is much closer to the Real Jesus as a true believer like yourself say, than are the mainstreamers. Here is the link on this forum to a lecture of his in context of Barbara Marx Hubbard.

.http://thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=F92DEB34-935B-462D-8063-916036FE1912&fid=76410766-E82E-474D-B18A-AF8DA4A28865




3) "SECOND COMING: you returning back to where you belong after you have succeeded, which means a second coming cannot take place on Earth for you do not belong here."

Tony ... How does this pronouncement fit in with your pronouncement that the "second coming" actually refers to the invasion of earth by our ET selves (i may be wording this poorly, but you know what i mean) ... since the way i understand YOUR de-coding of the Scriptures indicates that this WILL take place on Earth ??? can these 2 statements be reconciled ??

I await ya'lls reflections on these queries of mine with "bated breath!"

i LOVE you, Dragon siblings !


Sure Healer to be healed!

Like most, you are experiencing difficulties to 'read between the lines'; to DISCERN the esoteric-hidden meanings in simple words and statements. Like most you read something and consider it literally, in its exoteric appearance; like say Noah taking animals into his ark, the clean animals by sevens and the unclean by twos. Or the sundial of Ahaz, by which the sun itself returned 10 degrees in the sky.

So statements like the two above should show you that many 'scriptural encodings' can not possibly relate to physical occurrences, but would disguise some 'secret meaning' for the initiates. For example how did Noah feed his many animals from all over the world and how did he clean the ark with only 8 people surviving (Noah, Amzara and his 3 sons and their wives?).

The 'insider' is an initiate, because of his 'family bloodline' see. He was told and educated in the 'secrets' all his life. He also said a number of times does the bloodline does not really matter and that it simply bestowed the 'privileges' onto him because of it. He said that anyone can know what he does IF YOU DO the hard work of getting the information 'right'.

You will NOT find this information anyplace in the accessible media except that from the 'Elite' and as data from the Logos itself (as say the Ancient Ones in agency of and for the World Logos).

So then the Second Coming AS thought of literally by the 'scripture students and academics btw'; will NOT occur; because the Second Coming depends on the First Coming and this First Coming TRANSFORMS aka REDEEMS the entire Universe in the 'Coming of the Comforter' say as labeled as the 'Holy Ghost' as the third persona of the Godhead or the Son of Jesus or the Grandson of God and such labels.

So think of it as Jesus' resurrected bodyform diffusing to become ALL of the Cosmos. This must be so, otherwise heshe could not span it see? Its actually advanced quantum mechanics which sort of 'proves' this in a conceptual way in the wave-particle duality the Schrödinger's Dead-Alive Cat paradox and Bohrian Complementarity.

So the resurrected body of Christ HAD to GO AWAY as is clearly stated in John, SO that the Holy Ghost of the pentecost COULD manifest in the Diffused Christbody manifesting in the Eucharist.

That is why Jesus says: 'Do this in remembrance of me" and in the GOT: "Whoever drinks with my mouth and eats as my flesh will know the secrets and I will be Him" - literally.

This is the TRUE SECRET of the Eucharist of the so called TRANSSUBSTANTIATION of the Christbody.

Again, the 'insider' clearly knows this and this is why I knew that he at least partially understands the mysteries, say of the Gospel of Thomas; which is btw ridiculed by mainstream theologians and historians and academics precisely because of its power and seemingly 'blasphemous' statements such as these ones; all LITERALLY TRUE this time (mindboggling isn't it.

In other words the 'Elite', who are in control about what can be studied by the universities; desire that their own master manual be kept for themselves and to be ridiculed by all of the mainstream, educated and undereducated and for the purpose of keeping the power of the resurrected-ascended Logos Words (yes they were said in 32AD) away from all and sundry.

(108) Jesus said : "He who will drink from My mouth will become like Me. I myself shall become like him, and the hidden will be revealed to him."


(77) Jesus said : "I am the Light that falls on all things. I am the All. From Me the All has gone out and to Me the All came back. Cleave a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up a stone, and You will find Me there."

(82) Jesus said : "Whoever is near Me is near the fire, and whoever who is far from Me is far from the Kingdom."

(83) Jesus said : "Images are visible to man, and the light which is in them is hidden in the image of the Light of the Father. He will reveal Himself and His image is hidden by His light."

(84) Jesus said : "When You see your own likeness, You rejoice. But when You see the images of yourselves which came into being before You, which do not die nor become visible, how much then will You be able to bear ?"

(85) Jesus said : "Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, and he did not become worthy of You. For had he been worthy of You, he would not have experienced death."

(20) The disciples said to Jesus : "Tell us what the Kingdom of Heaven is like." He said to them : "It is like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a big plant and becomes a shelter for the birds of the sky."


(51) His disciples said to Him : "On what day will the rest come to those who are dead, and on what day will the new world come ?" He said to them : "What You expected has come, but You do not recognize it."


"(88) Jesus said : "The angels and the prophets will come to You and give You what is yours. You, give them what is in your hands, and ask yourselves : 'On which day will they come to receive what is theirs ?'

(113) His disciples said to Him : "When will the Kingdom come ?" Jesus said : "It does not come by expecting it. It will not be a matter of saying : 'See, it is here !' or : 'Look, it is there !'. Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread over the earth and men do not see it."


So then your returning is to return into the ChristBody resurrected (which IS the universe you already occupy see, therefore 'the kingdom is already here and most do and can not see it..

Can you get it now' Hillibilli? It is not hard to understand BUT mindboggling and 'normal people' reject the words of the Logos as fantasy, as madness or delusional thinking. So you would be in an extended company if you dont 'get it see'.

The ETs are encoded in many many scriptures and in saying #88 in the above. I'll leave it to you to interpret the above sayings now with your initiation into the 'Secrets of God and herhis Logos'!


May the Love of the True Jesus be with you Always and guide your path into remembrances!


Tonyblue

An Open Letter and Message to the Luciferians!

Seriously, to all who may read this; a new chapter is being written by the collective planetary consciousness of the Gaian family.


Rok and Sui from Kassavilas forum and Susy from PA2 and all humans experiencing apparently unwarranted and 'weird' communication problems with their individuated spheres of activity and environments; your 'banning' is a blessing in disguise, as to 'be banned' means in the image of the Logos Mirror, that you will be empowered 'Thu/to Ban The Banners' - not in some kind of 'revenge', but in the Mirror of Cosmic Justice. Jesus' 'turn the other cheek' , has a very intricate meaning in it (be as wise as Serpents and as innocent as Doves'.




Listening to this shows the great deception manifesting. Yes there is a 'truth' in the 'Sacred Crocodiles' 'ruling' the Cosmos as George Kassavilas tries to portray in the video above.

But the 'Alligators' are the Serpents of your own Inner Harmony, the deliverance of the Mother Earth from its pains of the 'eat to survive' etc pathology necessary for yet a little time, but with New Paradigms being implemented in a cooperative between all of you down here in the 'selfdestructing mess of the old human civilization' and also as ETs outside of the quarantined warpzone.

Towards the end it is said: "Noone can enter the Illuminati/New Age/New World Order' UNLESS allegiance to Lucifer is given.
Now this is TRUTH
BUT
The PTB's understanding of Lucifer, say as obscured in the 'deeper' meaning in Isaiah as say worldly kings, particularly the 'King of Babylon' (Isaiah.14.12); is INCOMPLETE AND TRAPPED in Duality

So, because of the warpzone, EVERYONE is invited to become part of the TRUE LUCIFERIAN Family in direct competition with the ptb on all levels, far exceeding the ptb and the interacting alien agendas, portrayed in the alternative media under whatever label of associations.
BUT
The True Lucifer, being the Serpent of Eden as the Melchizedek aka the World Logos (check out the apocryphon or secret book of John in the Nag Hammadi Gnostic Library) cannot even be recognized in Duality. So all of your 'intuitive feelings from the heart' are rather likely to 'fail' as your 'gut instincts' conditioned by your life's journey across whatever time scales of incarnation.

So the Logos Fire is very hot and burns the chaff from the little wheat and the 'old ways' of 'discernment' are in jeopardy in poroportion to your Mental Understanding coupled to your Inborn worldy Wisdom (in the clichee' of the Yin-Yang partition of the male-female hemispheres of the brain say).

The point is that it MUST appear, that the Lucifer of the say PTB is the embodiment of EVIL-Alpha=EVIL-Beginning=EVIL-A
BUT the nonduality will reflect this in A-LIVE.
That is WHY the false prophet and the 'beast' and all the 'ignorant sinners' are said to be THROWN into the hellfire of the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone' A-LIVE (Revelation.19.20).

It is so the DUALITY fake image of the EVILNESS which will be 'damned' WITHIN the lightbodies of the VERY FEW, who can discern their own 'demons' and "Crocodile Gods' from Orion as being THEIR OWN false images WITHIN.

YES, the Egyptians KNEW about their Shadows Khaibit of Anubis, protector of the Sarcophagus in the Judgement of Osiris in the Feather of Thoth and the Scales of Maat). That is why they mummified their nobels, in the symbology of David Icke, the shapeshifting human-reptilians being the shapeshifted Mummies in their Tombs of the Shadows; which became the Cave of Plato in the retelling of the Cosmic Logos Story in the Greek culture, then leading to the Western Civilization now becoming decadent at a rapid pace.

So it is easy to MISINTERPRET the symbols and the archetypes in Duality; and as all parts of society, the academics, the historians, the alternatives and the general populus have done and must do until the World Logos and NOT the sequesterers of the information, 'fills in the missing gaps' of the partial remembrances.

Whosoever has ears to hear and eyes to see!
WE are all mirrors and POTENTIAL participators of this disemination and cocreation in the rewriting of the Cosmic Script of Creation and what kind of world and incarnational experience WE desire to experience Our Greater Selfhood in.

The SERPENT=PRESENT=SON OF MAN = 97 = CIRCLE OF GOD check it yourself.
Aka Plumed Serpent Quetzacoatl and Kukulkan and Adam Kadmon and the 12th Imam and the Purusha and the Vitruvius and the Great White Brother of the Hopi as the Cosmic Thoth Melchizedek.

This Melchizedek is within you as the superconsciousness of your own kinship with the Crocodile Rulers of the Cosmos.

You may call it your 'LoveHeart' of the Remembrance
But the 'struggle' to discern the 'dualistic entrapments' from the unified key to ascension=descension=selfinvasion will be hard to find for the Many.

Numbers.21.4-9: (via Ashera, thank you for the reference)

⁴And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way.

⁵And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

⁶And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

⁷Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

⁸And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

⁹And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.


Perhaps some now may understand the symbol of the Crucifixion of the Serpent upon the Pole of The Ankhian Cross of Egypt.

The pastoral crook carried by bishops and also by the Egyptian pharaohs, is a symbol of Divine Power.
It is the staff of the Magician of the Tarot who leads the soul on its spiral journey, the Royal Path of the Tarot, of regeneration. The Lamb of God emerging from the jaws of a coiled serpent symbolizes this journey here. (Crozier, Italian, 12th century.)
http://www.williamhenry.net/stargateCruci.htm
Then there is is the ol' feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl crucified upon the X like cross. Echoing of course Christ.
http://afewshotstoshaman.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-dead-or-dying-pt-2.html
Tonyblue Red Whynot

Tractor Beams Activaton by the Solar Logos


Didymos Today at 5:41 pmEnormous Ring is Developing on the Sun



What is this strange ring that has been developing on the Sun during 16-Oct?
Sunspot 1112, located in the southeast quadrant, has been the source of a giant filament that is currently stretching 400,000 km across the surface of the Sun.
However, today, there appears to be development of a enormous circular ring which looks to be linking with the huge magnetic filament of sunspot 1112. Most of today’s various wavelength images of the Sun all show this feature over at the SDO (Solar Dynamics Observatory) – NASA website.
SpaceWeather.com today reports,
A vast filament of magnetism is cutting across the Sun’s southern hemisphere today. A bright ‘hot spot’ just north of the filament’s midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt. This active region merits watching…

What concerns me is that if indeed this is a huge magnetic filament nearly encircling the entire Sun, it is now currently directly facing the Earth. If sunspot 1112 does erupt, could the entire filament explode into a massive CME?
This particular phenomenon will be all over in a few days as it rotates around the Sun, but it serves to remind us that there are more and more events happening on the Sun as we transit into the next solar cycle maximum (peaking ~ 2012 into 2013).


CME is short for coronal mass ejection, a plasma made up of mostly electrons and protons.
Basically, a CME is electromagnetic radiation that is ejected from active regions of the sun.
CMEs directed at Earth can interfere with radio communications, harm satellites, and even damage electrical power transmission circuits and infrastructure, potentially causing widespread power grid failure. The biggest threat to human civilization is the later, a massive power grid failure, which could take months or even years to repair. This circumstance would require an extremely powerful CME, which fortunately do not occur on a regular basis.




Update 16-Oct-2010:
Issued: 2010 Oct 16 2156 UTC
Product: documentation at http://www.sidc.be/products/presto
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# FAST WARNING ‘PRESTO’ MESSAGE from the SIDC (RWC-Belgium) #
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An M2.9 X-ray flare occurred at 19:12UT at S20W26 in the vicinity of
active region 1112. There is no evidence for an associated CME. The
flare was confined in time. The filament in the neighborhood of the
flare site didn’t erupt as can be seen in PROBA2/SWAP images.

Sunspot 1112 just produced a solar flare (16-Oct, 2156 UTC) and we have apparently dodged a bullet for the moment… it did not ignite the massive filament. However, Sunspot 1112 is still Earth-facing and could easily flare again… Eyes are still on it…




Update 17-Oct-2010:
While reports are indicating that yesterdays M3-class eruption was the largest in three months, sunspot 1112 is still growing and the huge associated filament remains intact and ready to ignite should a larger flare explode in the upcoming hours.
Composite Image from 17-Oct-2010, 1435 UTC





Update 18-Oct-2010:
Sunspot 1112 and its monstrous 400,000 km filament located in the southeast quadrant, continues its (left to right) rotation around the sun, while still Earth facing and intact.
Composite Image from 18-Oct-2010, 1333 UTC



A total of five “B” and “C” -class flares ignited today from sunspot region 1112, a high number but fairly small in intensity, not enough to ignite the filament.
Check out the close-up image of the region as it makes its way towards the south east edge. Image from AIA (Atmospheric Imager Assembly) wavelength: 171 angstroms.
Maybe too much information, but it has been fun to watch this one…

Solar cycles come and go about every 11 years or so, and is due to reach the next solar maximum sometime between 2012 and 2013. It is a process, a ramp up. I’m sure that there will be many more posts in the future, assuming that the activity continues to increase over the next year or two. The fact that we are seeing activity is not unusual. However it has been interesting to observe the magnificent filament that developed over the surface during the past several days, along with its ominous shape.


Update 19-Oct-2010:
The filament that we’ve been watching has grown to 500,000 km, and incredibly, a small part of it erupted into space while leaving the majority still intact. The eruption is NOT Earth directed, while the entire region has rotated near the limb of the sun.



Update 19-Oct-2010, later in the day…
Sunspot region 1112 belted off 4 small solar flares today and is still very active while beginning to twist over the southeast limb.

Maybe a Solar Telescope will be an enjoyable hobby during the upcoming solar maximum.
S


Sunspot 1112 Crackling with Solar Flares
10.18.10

› View larger On Saturday, October 16, NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory captured this stunning image of one of the most intense, solar flares seen in the past few months. So far there have been no reports of energetic particles from this M-class flare interfering with NASA spacecraft or making their way to Earth. Image credit: NASA/SDO/AIA

October 16, 2010 - Fast-growing sunspot 1112 is crackling with solar flares. The three strongest of this 24 hour period: an M3-flare at 1910 UT on Oct. 16th, a C1-flare at 0900 UT and another C1-flare at 1740 UT on Oct. 17th. So far, none of the blasts has hurled a substantial CME toward Earth.

In addition, a vast filament of magnetism is cutting across the sun's southern hemisphere, measuring about 400,000 km. A bright 'hot spot' just north of the filament's midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If the sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt. But so far, none of the flares has destabilized the filament.

› View larger › View full disk image A 400,000 km filament of magnetism stretches across the sun's southern hemisphere. Image credit NASA/SDO

Holly Zell
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center

Shared by Lightrock! (Thank You Allen!)


There is a ridiculous now 500,000 mile magnetic ring ( they say ) intersecting a particular sunspot, it is very odd, there are more pictures of this on the net.


And, recall earlier in the year there was the big hoopla that planet sized "ufo's" were very near the sun. Later someone was claiming their theory was correct, something about all stars have black holes in 'em or wormholes and that planet sized alien craft 'jump' through stars. - anyway, food for thought, that... the debunking of all that is ... not well debunked and very odd if you look it up now.

Meanwhile, Houston we may have a problem. I don't recall ever seeing anything like this before...

The 'Tractor Beams' are activated for the Logos Nexus Point of October 29th, 2010. This counts 150 days of a Shadow Flood, and as witnessed by many Gaian Observers around the Globe since March 24th, 2010 to the next nexus point of March 21st, 2011 and when Noah as ANY Man as 'Friend of GoddoG' able to 'hear' the call will begin to 'Build' hisher Ark on March 21st, 2011 at Spring Equinox 2011.

Tonyblue



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