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    Post  starninja on Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:13 am

    Brook,
    If you read the first post on this tread, you would know why there are 2 treads. Big Grin 2
    I stand strongly for freedom and I hate any form of control. We are free to choose what we want to believe and free to choose with whom we want to associate. sunny
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    Post  Brook on Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:50 am

    starninja wrote:Brook,
    If you read the first post on this tread, you would know why there are 2 treads.
    I stand strongly for freedom and I hate any form of control. We are free to choose what we want to believe and free to choose with whom we want to associate. sunny

    Oh...I see...Anyway, here is my take on the subject matter for what it is worth Wink

    I do love the subject matter here in fact, and you are doing a good job on exposing this information...keep up the good work!
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    Post  superhero on Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:07 pm

    My thoughts on the New Age are simple - there has always been a New Age to believe in. Any time that someone would think outside the accepted box of the status quo - especially concerning spiritual beliefs - they were considered "New Age". The word Age is from the Greek word aion and has to do with - an order or system and arrangement of things - and when someone would have a new vision for the future that was opposed to the established rule he was proclaiming a new age to the people. Then people would congregate around this individual and his vision, and a new New Age group was born, then sooner or later someone would infiltrate the group and spread new doctrines within the group and a split would occur and the vision would change, and this has been going on and on for thousands of years.

    Today in our modern world we have every kind of New Age thought imaginable, and to think that it has not been infiltrated is naive to say the least. Anything that reaches beyond the established thought systems or orthodox belief systems is considered New Age, and yes infiltration does occur in each one of these. All of the great spiritual leaders of the past were considered New Age thinkers and teachers of their time, and many were martyred for it, and today we have a hodgepodge of new age ideologies to choose from, but so much of it has been bastardized from the virgin revelations of the oracles and the Seers that is now a minefield of thoughts that seem to be focused on controlling us and taking us away from our personal power and freedoms of who we are as individual beings - yet connected in a powerful spiritual altitude. The Truth is within us all, and if we can ever come together in the spirit of cooperation - if our goals are the same - we just might be able to walk this road together and put together this jigsaw puzzle we call life.

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    Re: THE INFILTRATION OF NEW AGE MOVEMENT II

    Post  Brook on Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:35 pm

    Well, I don't get away from my thread I've been working on enough around here. As I came back to share some information, and hash around some ideas of perception. As Star has brought my "knowing and freedom" thread into the mix here..I would like to share something of the perception I had upon writing that thread.

    I got hammered in that thread by several people at AV1 about bringing up the ego...in fact I was being "labeled" a new age freak of sorts. When in fact what I was saying was exactly what they were saying...in a different way. Now someone brought Eckhart Tolle into the mix. And because I had not read his stuff...only seen a few of his videos..I agreed with his take on one of his videos. Now what I did, was because I had never read any of his stuff, I got one of his books, and a couple of his CD's. The fact is,.I could not finish the book..it put me to sleep! And his CD's were even more mundane. If you follow this guy...you might as well hang up your hat and retreat to lala land. Because that is exactly where it will lead you.

    Now, my take on the ego was in fact to dispel that perception...so I will state this first.............

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=160413&postcount=92

    And I never intended to tell anyone to lose that part of themself.....this is your being! This is who you REALLY are...and this is who you should seek..not the "programmed" 3D adaptation that has been this life experience. Plain and simple! And with that "knowing" does come freedom...freedom of the perceived self that has been your experience here in this 3D aspect of who you really are. My ego is strong, as I know who I am, and have worked very hard to attain this part of myself...my TRUE self. And no matter what "perceptions" are out there of who I am.....I've gained that Know of who I am. And I stand proud of who I am...now would that be considered an EGO talking?....absolutely! Is it bad to feel that? Absolutely not! Just do not be driven by the Ego that you have been programmed with here and now to claim that as exactly who you are...as you are so much more!

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=160827&postcount=100
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    Re: THE INFILTRATION OF NEW AGE MOVEMENT II

    Post  mudra on Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:51 pm

    starninja wrote:I am transferring my original tread the Infiltration of New Age Movement due to the fact that both Carol and Floyd didn’t respect my wishes.
    This tread is about infiltration on the New Age movement not promoting it. So. I let them continue their discussion.

    I have some thought I would like to share. Do we really have freedom here? Do we have freedom to choose what we want to believe? Or, the opposite, we are pushed to accept the administrators belief system. Are they going to tell us that we are not smart enough to find our truth but we need to be indoctrinated into their belief system? Don’t we have own standards what wisdom and intelligence is? Do they need to build a weak ago at our expense? Or, maybe the answer is simpler than that.


    Don’t we have freedom what we want to read and with whom we want to interact?

    This tread reflects an intense research that Sturdust did. It was to honor her and those that we both quoted who helped us to wake up. If they try to hijack this tread again, those who have eyes opened, will see what the agenda is.


    Freedom and censorship

    It is a pearl posted by Oliver at Avalon1.

    projectavalon.net/forum/showt...=17931&page=19



    You are welcome to share your views Starninja .
    However if you only allow on your threads people that pat you on the back and hold the exact same opinions as you
    the place you chose to do so may not be the best one for you.
    Better start a blog without comments allowed.
    Carol and Floyd only expressed their own views regarding some of your posts .
    Which is only normal on a forum where discussions are shared.
    The censorship you question as far as I can see is rather coming from you.
    As the OP of the thread if you are not open to discussion with others where is the freedom for all ?
    From open discussion growth can take place .
    Have a look at Brook's thread . She accepts and listens to everyone and is capable of holding a two way
    conversation with people which is all in her honor and makes her thread friendly and alive.


    Love from me
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    Re: THE INFILTRATION OF NEW AGE MOVEMENT II

    Post  starninja on Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:57 pm

    Brook wrote:

    Well, I don't get away from my thread I've been working on enough around here. As I came back to share some information, and hash around some ideas of perception. As Star has brought my "knowing and freedom" thread into the mix here..I would like to share something of the perception I had upon writing that thread.

    I got hammered in that thread by several people at AV1 about bringing up the ego...in fact I was being "labeled" a new age freak of sorts. When in fact what I was saying was exactly what they were saying...in a different way. Now someone brought Eckhart Tolle into the mix. And because I had not read his stuff...only seen a few of his videos..I agreed with his take on one of his videos. Now what I did, was because I had never read any of his stuff, I got one of his books, and a couple of his CD's. The fact is,.I could not finish the book..it put me to sleep! And his CD's were even more mundane. If you follow this guy...you might as well hang up your hat and retreat to lala land. Because that is exactly where it will lead you.

    Now, my take on the ego was in fact to dispel that perception...so I will state this first.............

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=160413&postcount=92

    And I never intended to tell anyone to lose that part of themself.....this is your being! This is who you REALLY are...and this is who you should seek..not the "programmed" 3D adaptation that has been this life experience. Plain and simple! And with that "knowing" does come freedom...freedom of the perceived self that has been your experience here in this 3D aspect of who you really are. My ego is strong, as I know who I am, and have worked very hard to attain this part of myself...my TRUE self. And no matter what "perceptions" are out there of who I am.....I've gained that Know of who I am. And I stand proud of who I am...now would that be considered an EGO talking?....absolutely! Is it bad to feel that? Absolutely not! Just do not be driven by the Ego that you have been programmed with here and now to claim that as exactly who you are...as you are so much more!

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=160827&postcount=100


    Brook, you said it beautifully. sunny I love women who have a strong sense of self, or strong ego. I love men who have a strong sense of self too. LOL. But I can speak from a female perspective. I know what you mean when you said that you have worked very hard to embrace all parts and aspects of yourself. I have been working very hard too to attain it. I would even say that it is extremely hard to do so. In fact, it is a highly emotionally charged inner work as we have to face and challenge all beliefs including our core beliefs. But we also meet external resistance, judgment, and criticism as we go against programming and stereotyping. I believe that it is much harder for women to do as we were programmed that our worth depends on our ability to care for others. We were programmed not to have own dreams, needs and, wants but to meet the needs of others. Not too many women and men undertake this difficult task. Inner knowing is a big reward we gained as a result of our inner work. Yes, it is a reason to be proud of who we are. I believe that inner knowing and trusting ourselves is an quintessence of being a fully human.

    Women who have a strong sense of self are tolerant and accepting. And when they love, they love freely and deeply. It is a pure delight to be around them.

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    Re: THE INFILTRATION OF NEW AGE MOVEMENT II

    Post  starninja on Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:00 pm

    Mudra wrote:

    You are welcome to share your views Starninja .
    However if you only allow on your threads people that pat you on the back and hold the exact same opinions as you
    the place you chose to do so may not be the best one for you.
    Better start a blog without comments allowed.
    Carol and Floyd only expressed their own views regarding some of your posts .
    Which is only normal on a forum where discussions are shared.
    The censorship you question as far as I can see is rather coming from you.
    As the OP of the thread if you are not open to discussion with others where is the freedom for all ?
    From open discussion growth can take place .
    Have a look at Brook's thread . She accepts and listens to everyone and is capable of holding a two way
    conversation with people which is all in her honor and makes her thread friendly and alive.
    Hm…your truth doesn’t reflect mine. You have noticed that I don’t visit your treads any more. But I respect your beliefs and I am not trying to change your belief system. It is not my business. I don’t give you any advice, either. On the contrary, you are full of advice. Well, I don’t give any advice and I don’t take any advice unless I ask. People I choose to associate with don’t give any advice. I have to ask them! But even if I ask them, they are very reluctant to do so.

    Secondly, we have a choice with who we want to associate. But it requires having a strong sense of self and clear boundary to know what we accept and what we don’t.
    Yes, there are people here I respect and I highly value for their commitment and hard work to uncover truth. It is a reason that I am here.

    Finally, when we are around people who are likeminded, the energy is very high. I feel energized and uplifted. On the contrary, when I am around people who have dense energy, my body literally constricts. I don’t want to be around them but I wish them well. They can find people whose energy match.

    My beliefs are very different than yours as I am recovered from New Age beliefs. Don’t forget that it is forum for people who love truth. Please don’t try to spill everywhere your spiritual beliefs. It is very disrespectful as not everybody on this forum shares your beliefs.

    Regarding Brook’s forum, I enjoy reading her tread and I enjoy reading her posts as well as posts of other participants. Brook never gives any advice as you do. On the contrary, she encourages the reader to do research and trust herself or himself. Very empowering, indeed.

    I am always puzzled that people waste their time to be engaged in a discussion with people whose beliefs are very different. But we are talking about the issues control and deep insecurities. People who are secure within themselves let others have their own beliefs, ideas, and choices. I love that kind of people.

    Mudra, live and let others live the life they want. It is a real love!
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    Re: THE INFILTRATION OF NEW AGE MOVEMENT II

    Post  mudra on Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:08 am

    starninja wrote:[

    Mudra, live and let others live the life they want. It is a real love!

    Indeed Starninja .


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    Post  dysfunctionalmystic on Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:33 am

    @Brook
    I actually think Eckhart Tolle is quite evil and his material is very damaging and he is very damaged as a person which I think is fine but the fact he claims to be as important as jesus is worrying to say the least. I'm glad you found him boring, it took me a few attempts to get through one of his books and would happily have not bothered if it hadn't been for the fact I was reviewing him.

    There is some merit in Crowley's work yet there is no doubt in my mind he was corrupted but he never claimed to be an "angel of the light". I have a friend who likes his work which is ironic because she's so much into the light. There is a book called the Spear of destiny written by Trevor Ravenscroft(1973) which looks at HItler's obsession with finding the spear that pierced the side of christ and also his associations with occultism. There are many connections between Hitler's ideals and some form of "new age" thinking. The idea of the Aryan race is a very old one and Crowley was considered rascist even in his time. Believe it or not the form of ritual magic taught to Hitler came from a bloke called Dietrich ECKART and was partly derived from Crowley's work. I think Hitler was one sick man and even if he did have some mad notion that he was here to save the world he should not have killed anybody, I just felt the need to share because its all connected, personally I have no time for the stuff (or Hitler/white brotherhood/crowley) but it is riddled with the most perculiar stories that make uncomfortable sense. There have been those that claim the jewish "chosen people" status came from them helping the reptilians, is this what hitler believed and if so did he think he was working for the light? Scary stuff but shows the dangers of these waters. Tons of info is kicking about in the collective and so much of it is false but there are many people who believe anything - just look at the channellers. How do they know it's clean information when it comes from an outside source?

    On the subject of a staged invasion - My biggest fear is that we will have a staged invsion so that TPTB can form a new religion and keep the masses away from finding the god within. We have just entered the age of Aquarius and at each astrological age change we have a new dominant religion that emerges..Aquarius is strongly connected to "aliens", brotherhood, everyone being a part of the same family. (Pisces was to martyrdom and sacrifice, saints and sinners), there is eveidence out there to suggest this is a possibility. But I really do get annoyed by the alien/et/galactic federation stuff, who cares? how is it relevant? why would anyone in their right mind want to take orders from anyone? Much of the channeling etc is just a way of transferring personal power onto someone else...like they do with jesus, god, buddha, and every other guru/god on or off the planet.
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    Post  Brook on Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:58 am

    Agreed...something seriously wrong with this Tolle character. Talk about deadening the senses.....I suppose if you want to be a zombie..that would be the route to travel. And here is the really sad part....many who follow his work, are somehow working out their "emotional" body.....and with that in mind..to deaden instead of work through it..well...that would be evil now wouldn't it?
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    Post  dysfunctionalmystic on Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:20 am

    Every major religion claims the body is a source of sin or that it somehow needs to be transcended, for Tolle to refer to it as the pain body is a clue into his beliefs. He also advocates to switch off the mind lol. He's scary and offers a fast track to becoming an automaton.
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    Post  starninja on Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:08 am

    Superhero wrote:

    My thoughts on the New Age are simple - there has always been a New Age to believe in. Any time that someone would think outside the accepted box of the status quo - especially concerning spiritual beliefs - they were considered "New Age". The word Age is from the Greek word aion and has to do with - an order or system and arrangement of things - and when someone would have a new vision for the future that was opposed to the established rule he was proclaiming a new age to the people. Then people would congregate around this individual and his vision, and a new New Age group was born, then sooner or later someone would infiltrate the group and spread new doctrines within the group and a split would occur and the vision would change, and this has been going on and on for thousands of years.

    Today in our modern world we have every kind of New Age thought imaginable, and to think that it has not been infiltrated is naive to say the least. Anything that reaches beyond the established thought systems or orthodox belief systems is considered New Age, and yes infiltration does occur in each one of these. All of the great spiritual leaders of the past were considered New Age thinkers and teachers of their time, and many were martyred for it, and today we have a hodgepodge of new age ideologies to choose from, but so much of it has been bastardized from the virgin revelations of the oracles and the Seers that is now a minefield of thoughts that seem to be focused on controlling us and taking us away from our personal power and freedoms of who we are as individual beings - yet connected in a powerful spiritual altitude. The Truth is within us all, and if we can ever come together in the spirit of cooperation - if our goals are the same - we just might be able to walk this road together and put together this jigsaw puzzle we call life.

    Peace on earth and goodwill to all,
    Superhero, I wouldn’t say goals. It sounds too much like a psychological jargon. How I can say it as I am so passionate about psychology, eh?
    I would rather say inner values that are true spiritual values such as love, truth, freedom, dignity, and beauty. Those inner values give rise to strong feelings and passions as they are related to one’s sense of self. I am a dreamer that one day we will bring those values again to life. But it requires a personal responsibility to grow and change. My colleague said that the world is full of immature adults. Well, I agree with her but I also see that they want us to be this way as it is very easy to control us. There is a stage in our personal growth where we don’t need gurus or spiritual teachers. Brook beautifully expressed it earlier. We have inner knowing and we trust it. sunny
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    Post  starninja on Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:12 am

    Brook and Dysfunctionalmystic I am with you. sunny

    Since Oprah has been heavily promoted Tolle, let's have some fun at her version of Law of One. Heh heh



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    Post  superhero on Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:49 am

    starninja wrote:
    Superhero wrote:

    My thoughts on the New Age are simple - there has always been a New Age to believe in. Any time that someone would think outside the accepted box of the status quo - especially concerning spiritual beliefs - they were considered "New Age". The word Age is from the Greek word aion and has to do with - an order or system and arrangement of things - and when someone would have a new vision for the future that was opposed to the established rule he was proclaiming a new age to the people. Then people would congregate around this individual and his vision, and a new New Age group was born, then sooner or later someone would infiltrate the group and spread new doctrines within the group and a split would occur and the vision would change, and this has been going on and on for thousands of years.

    Today in our modern world we have every kind of New Age thought imaginable, and to think that it has not been infiltrated is naive to say the least. Anything that reaches beyond the established thought systems or orthodox belief systems is considered New Age, and yes infiltration does occur in each one of these. All of the great spiritual leaders of the past were considered New Age thinkers and teachers of their time, and many were martyred for it, and today we have a hodgepodge of new age ideologies to choose from, but so much of it has been bastardized from the virgin revelations of the oracles and the Seers that is now a minefield of thoughts that seem to be focused on controlling us and taking us away from our personal power and freedoms of who we are as individual beings - yet connected in a powerful spiritual altitude. The Truth is within us all, and if we can ever come together in the spirit of cooperation - if our goals are the same - we just might be able to walk this road together and put together this jigsaw puzzle we call life.

    Peace on earth and goodwill to all,
    Superhero, I wouldn’t say goals. It sounds too much like a psychological jargon. How I can say it as I am so passionate about psychology, eh?
    I would rather say inner values that are true spiritual values such as love, truth, freedom, dignity, and beauty. Those inner values give rise to strong feelings and passions as they are related to one’s sense of self. I am a dreamer that one day we will bring those values again to life. But it requires a personal responsibility to grow and change. My colleague said that the world is full of immature adults. Well, I agree with her but I also see that they want us to be this way as it is very easy to control us. There is a stage in our personal growth where we don’t need gurus or spiritual teachers. Brook beautifully expressed it earlier. We have inner knowing and we trust it. sunny

    That is a good change and I agree with you - thanks for your input and clarification on the verbiage as it is important to correctly define what we mean.
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    Post  burgundia on Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:04 pm

    starninja wrote:Brook and Dysfunctionalmystic I am with you. sunny

    Since Oprah has been heavily promoted Tolle, let's have some fun at her version of Law of One. Heh heh




    Oh my!! How I do not like that...even ants in the anthill and outside of it, each moves in a different direction...though they may have a common goal...

    Would you like to live your life with a man like Tolle?? NO!!!, though he is a nice person, probably...and I like my body!!
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    Post  superhero on Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:06 pm

    starninja wrote:Brook and Dysfunctionalmystic I am with you. sunny

    Since Oprah has been heavily promoted Tolle, let's have some fun at her version of Law of One. Heh heh




    LOL! What the hell is this all about? This is bizarre. Shocked Are these Oprah's mind controlled zombies? Hypnotize You couldn't pay me to go to something like this. Nuke
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    Post  dysfunctionalmystic on Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:39 pm

    god that film was really funny but scary
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    Post  starninja on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:05 pm

    I was watching Chris Thomas interview yesterday. It is controversial, however, he confirmed in some aspects my research as well as he asked very important questions I ask. His message has validated the research presented in The Pyramid Code part 4- Empowered Human. If ancient humans experienced the reality through 360 senses, do we need to ascend? What was done to us that we lost these abilities? How can we get back our abilities? Can we integrate our souls by feeling and releasing all feelings? I don’t know and I wish it were that simple. However, I was strongly guided to go back to emotional healing after I have done my research on New Age spirituality. I intuitively know that it is something very important about our feelings but I feel that I have just scratched the surface.

    http://www.whatkatylouisedid.com/2010/09/will-you-ascend-to-fifth-dimension.html

    Is ‘ascension’ really so great?
    But back to the article; Chris doesn’t state what the answer is (I am sure the book explores that, but I have yet to read it) but he does seem to be suggesting that rather than concern ourselves with alien races and star gates and what is happening ‘out there’ in the galaxy for 2012, we instead keep our focus grounded, and on how to solve the problems we have already created here on Earth. He says if it is true that an alien race want to help us ‘ascend’ and move off the planet and to a higher dimension, then it could be a trick. Not only this, but he says abandoning Earth would be a mistake (if and when we get that option), because we have to face up to our own mistakes and not run away from them. Creating problems – in this case global ones – and then washing your hands of them and running away just leaves the people that are left behind with a big mess to deal with. And perhaps that will happen one day. Perhaps these spiritually ‘advanced’ people who are so concerned with ascension and contacting other races will one day get the choice to leave Earth (or their forebears, more likely), believing themselves to be ‘evolving’ in some way. But maybe they are being misled? For as Chris says in the article, there is no saying where they will be taken. Maybe the real challenge is to stay on Earth and learn to live in harmony with one another. Who are these angels and higher beings that are supposedly ‘channelled’ by a whole host of writers for our advancement? Maybe Chris is asking us to be a bit more discerning, and question the motives of such writings? If we are being ‘guided’ then is it really for our highest good? How can we be sure? These are just some of the things I wonder when reading about all this stuff. Books on 2012 will tell you that it is both ‘the end of the world and destruction of the planet’ yet also a ‘time for spiritual evolution and rebirth’. You can read good and bad about anything and everything.
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    Post  dysfunctionalmystic on Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:11 pm

    I didn't watch the clips because my laptop only has speeds of slow and painfully immovable but I wanted to comment on your comments, I think you raise some valid points. I have a friend who likes the Pleiadians and she pisses me off with it. I have no problem with alien neighbours but the way some of the new agers carry on is disturbing. The channellings become the new bible and they sit waiting to be rescued. What concerns me is that these same people are supporting hierarchy...all the talk of ASCension is actually quite conDEScending...but you have to love the irony ;-)

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    Post  starninja on Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:20 am

    Yes, I agree that it is disturbing how some new agers so easily give their power away. Well, growing, maturing, and being a responsible adult is painful. No wonder so many want to believe in Ascension and being rescued. BTW, I have just read your article about Love and Lighters.

    http://www.dysfunctionalmystic.com/#/love-and-lighters/4540689387
    Love and lighters are completely ignorant to how dangerous they are, not only they passively infecting the collective unconscious with their denied infected wounds they are actively encouraging others to join them, they undermine any trace of self confidence by renaming it the “ego” in fact they rename anything that maybe a treat to free thinking as “ego”, they cripple sensuality with accusation of “animal nature” and place so many demands on absolute perfection that I sometimes wonder how they ever manage to have laughter never mind a dissent orgasm. All this excessive behavior comes from a place that is trying to avoid anything that will provoke a feeling, if they start a new relationship it will be with a soul mate yet the connection will be predominantly mental, sex will be tantric but lacking in any real energy and generally if you mention the word XXXX they will recoil in horror at the thought and claim they only ever make love which is a laugh because their version of love is so impersonal they probably have to do it with their eyes closed to imagine in some far off distant galaxy where everyone wears white.”


    I love your sense of humor. You said it very well. Emotional numbness was a reason I did research on the Infiltration of New Age movement. I wanted to know how they mange to brainwash people into a zombie like state. Unfortunately, they were quite successful. However, I have found several blogs with a number of people who are very aware of the danger of the New Age beliefs. The number is slowly but steadily growing which is very comforting. BTW, I have found that the twin flame idea came from Secret Society.Lol.

    It is too bad that I can’t make comments on your website but I will be checking for a new article. I am leaving this forum for good. I was a pleasure to meet you.

    Best regards,
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    Post  Brook on Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:55 pm

    Well, I hope you take some time and think about this a little more, leaving us here that is. Because there are those of us here that are following your work here, and find it valuable. I for one do not want you to stop your research into this very important subject. It needs to be hashed out here.

    I was really hoping you would research the Jungian "archetype" area of all of this, as it would seem to go back to a core belief system that connects much of your research into much of this. I know there is a big connection in this for you to hit upon. I myself am working on something different, or I would take the time to do it. However, this would be right up your alley and would fit into your work here.

    So please reconsider your thoughts here, and don't let your ability to reason, cloud what good work you have been doing here. I for one have been following you here, as are others. And I think that if you leave, you will be leaving something of value in the area you have been researching.
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    Post  Carol on Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:47 pm

    I have just watched Chris Thomas and am totally blown out of the water. No 5th dimension. And those chemtrails and HAARP were doing exactly what I thought.. trying to slow down humanities evolutionary shift. And the human soul contains 50 dimensions! Woah. Can you imagine the traveling we can do once the full soul download is completed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N00OfL8JnVI&feature=related

    WAKE UP CALL...

    These are the notes I made dys.. I hope they help. They are a bit sketchy but will give you the flavor of what Chris was saying.


    Chris Thomas

    www.cygnus-books.co.uk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-RSwTihJQ0&feature=channel
    www.capallbann.co.uk

    Books:

    The Journey Home
    The Fools First Steps
    The Universal Soul
    The Human Soul
    Project Human Extinction

    Velon/Annunaki

    Chris also did healing. Reading the energies on sick people he often found energy patterns that were not human. People were carrying around entity implants that were causing health problems.

    Human being

    Green crystal contained all the knowledge of humanity. Role of the Knights Templar was to guard the Ark of the Covenant containing the Tables of Testimony which is a green crystal programmed with history of human race all the way from Atlantis until the Knights Templar were destroyed… should the Annunaki get their hands on this - they could rewrite our entire human history. Currently these artifacts are in a place inaccessible and will remain there. The Annunaki what to get our ancient knowledge. Meanwhile, The Tables of Testimony remain in hiding.

    Illuminati moved to America (and were combined into Free Masons and Knights Templar as all are now tied in together). Their goal is to control everything that happens on earth.

    14 fraction entities

    Black holes do not actually exist before the 14 exist. Black holes are collapsing and all of the stuff they collected is actually being ejected out. The universe is not based on black holes because they are also disappearing.

    Create an energy pattern of equal energy to get rid of something

    2012 is about humanity as a whole who set up the human plan which was to take 7,000 years to complete. This plan began in Atlantis and the purpose was to get the whole soul back intp the human body. This also has to do with energy patterns. Originally the earth resonated at 7.5 cycles per second but this was too low a frequency for the world to maintain the whole soul in the body. The frequency needs to be much higher then that. The average soul contains an energy that encompasses 50 dimensions as an average. Moving into a 5th dimension is a load of rubbish perpetrated by the Annunaki. In 2002 the earth altered her own energy frequency to 3.5 kilohertz. Copper, golds, transparencies pure energy without color, blues.. Some people have no colors - just pure energy. Charkas are disappearing. 4.5 million have undergone their whole soul transition. They are living in isolated communities in isolated spots because of their energy. First group in America that transformed was arrested and taken into custody by the military and undergo experimentation, which is more horrendous then anything in Germany. They volunteered to go to spare others who followed their own transformation. With the new energy upgrade one can live as long as 1,500 years. The military inject the transformed bodies with any chemicals or diseases to see if the body can throw it off. That type of potential is beyond the vocabulary to describe that level of psychic ness one with the whole soul in the body is capable of. When this transformation is complete one can remotely view where one wants to go and take the body with the thought, translocate, pick the orange from the tree and go back to where they were before making the trip to the orchard. This is what humans were designed to be… everybody will have all of his or her potentials to function with. The Annunaki and illuminati are trying to stop because they would have no control over us what-so-ever because we cannot be contained.

    Think of 5 senses like single notes compare to a symphony, which are abilities actually are. We are ready to break out of the space in the body to becoming a full human being on the planet.

    The military has been using harp to flood the planet with low frequency waves @ 7.5 hertz from the 3.5 kilohertz frequency the earth is already generating because they are trying to slow down the frequency of the body to stop us from transforming.

    Ashtar command and galactic federation are made up by the Annunaki and they are telling us we must leave the earth. We need to stay to undergo this transformation as earth is unique for human life. We are not ascending anywhere; we are bringing the whole of the soul into the body. We already have 50 dimensions within us. They are trying to prevent humanity from undergoing this change and fulfilling our potential of becoming fully human again.

    Within the 5 suns of the cycle’s events called epochs/markers, large changes take place at the end of each epoch and the last epoch is noted to end October 27th 2011. Akashic comes to an end at 2011.

    2012 is the completion date for the 5th sun and we move into the 6th sun where humanity becomes humanity and the not the subhumans we’ve been or the last 7000 years. The way we complete this process can only be internal as we are bringing the higher-self back into the body. We can only do it for ourselves. The point of the human plan is to make a decision, are we going to undergo this change and work at it.

    Step 1. Make the decision.

    Step 2. Say with as much positive intent “I want to undergo this soul process of integration and I want to stay on earth. I want to bring my higher self into the body.

    We need to make some space and get rid of the accumulated emotions. Need to clear them out using a Native American technique, get old newspaper and pencil and start writing to the people who annoyed you but don’t read it back so you don’t take back in the emotion. Write it on newspaper in pencil then rip up the paper. If there still is emotion then it needs to be more writing over and over until all events from the past are observed without emotion - then emotional debris has been cleared out.

    This simplest answer is the easiest way to deal with this. Stuff may come back from childhood. The more rubbish cleared out the more soul one can take in. Then everything changes because ones view changes.

    Once the soul is in place there is no fear anymore. One can move things around psychically (teleport), know when someone is approaching, put psychic barriers up so people can’t see one, have telepathically with others. It is time to take on board all of these abilities that we already have.

    Very few Velon in human form 250, the ones aren’t in human form are invisible, these work through the Illuminati who controls every government on the planet.

    If you criticize the Eliziben (?) treaty you can be put in jail indefinitely. The French fight back. However, other people can be rounded up and herded into detention centers.

    China has issued personal identification cards to their people with chips and they have policeman who walk around in crowds with RFID identifiers… but American and others, they put technology in the car where one is identifiable and tractable by satellite and cars carry an immobilizer from the year 2000 onward.

    2k years ago global temperatures was about plus 3 degrees (the mid-evil warm period ended toward the end of the 1300 where temp was plus 2) there was 300 years the global temp was 1.5 degrees then it rose again - 1850 was the last time the Themes froze

    2005 global temps dropped but will pick up when solar activity pick up again. Solar flares set to start up next year and the Co2 will be up too which we need. In reality, man produces less then 1 percent of Co2. Co2 follow behind temperature change. Temperature change causes change in Co2. Main problem is food production.

    Annunaki claim that they made humans as a slave race. Yet we now know the Annunaki are here to deliberately mislead us. We are not ascending to the 5th dimension. The Annunaki are not gods or our creators. They are trying to remove people from the planet as much as possible and also using the concept of the 2nd coming of Jesus. They will claim that Christ is really an Annunaki - Lord Sananda. The Annunaki are saying that Sananda is a word that means the ascended Christ. They are trying to dampen down our ability to change. In addition, we have soul that has built for itself a body. We will think ourselves somewhere on the planet and take our body with us. We can communicate with animals and others because we are becoming so much more then we believe even possible. There are these deliberate attempts to mislead us. We will be capable of communicating with anyone or any animal and need to stay firmly footed on earth.

    Our protection is to go through the process because the more aware we are the more psychic we are, and the more we are aware of what is going on – on the planet. Very few people actually come under psychic attack unless someone has done something psychically to be noticed. One must undergo this process of change. Once the whole soul is back in the body, nothing can touch us, no disease, no psychic attacks, nothing.



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    It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.

    With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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    Post  Lionhawk on Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:21 pm

    There are more than 50 dimensions. More than 100. What if I said 144? Does that make a click somewhere?

    Wheels within wheels, remember? (Chakras)

    What comes after that I wonder?

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