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    What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:29 am

    OIL CORPORATIONS WANT TO EXPLOIT RESERVES UNDER ARCTIC ICE MELT



    The flow of oil under the Arctic Ocean, believed to be only 3 years’ worth of a global supply, would not justify the desire of the oil corporations to begin drilling in the region.

    http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/09/03/oil-corporations-want-to-exploit-reserves-under-arctic-ice-melt/

    The National Academy of Science would like to see the eco-fascist view of man-made climate change be taught in school curriculum to indoctrinate future generations to unscientific ideas like the Arctic sea-ice melting is not a natural event.

    Rest of article at link...along with other interesting tidbits.

    http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/09/

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:41 am

    WHO in the World is Spraying? promo #1


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux8v5ZM6is4




    Published on Jul 26, 2013


    We must find out who is behind the current ongoing destructive geo-engineering schemes being conducted around the world. From the award winning production team that brought you "WHAT in the World are They Spraying?" & "WHY in the World are They Spraying?" comes an in depth investigative search into WHO is doing this. "WHO in the World is Spraying?" is currently in production. Please visit http://www.whosprays.com for funding opportunities and pre-orders.


    NOTE: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/global-march-against-geoengineering-global-event-listings/

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  mudra on Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:47 pm

    Jenetta wrote:WHO in the World is Spraying? promo #1


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux8v5ZM6is4




    Published on Jul 26, 2013  


    We must find out who is behind the current ongoing destructive geo-engineering schemes being conducted around the world. From the award winning production team that brought you "WHAT in the World are They Spraying?" & "WHY in the World are They Spraying?" comes an in depth investigative search into WHO is doing this. "WHO in the World is Spraying?" is currently in production. Please visit http://www.whosprays.com for funding opportunities and pre-orders.


    NOTE:  http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/global-march-against-geoengineering-global-event-listings/

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    Can't wait to see the full documentary.

    Thank you Jenetta.

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:29 pm

    A PLANE TRAIL OF DEADLY DECEPTION (The Chemtrail Song)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5--Iq4FPyGU



    Lyrics:

    TRILLION SAYS:
    (it's a bird it's a plane it's...)
    ...chemtrails another fully blown lie
    "if we don't stop global warming then we surely gonna die"
    but the government claims, they're all Contrails,
    but the con trails on for too long beyond vales
    everyone can see aero-spray clear as day
    what goes up, must come down - theorists say
    it's falling down - it truly is, we taste and smell it
    trace elements collated - scientific debates develop
    base elements it's evident - aluminum oxide
    and barium - prevalent - a million crops die
    it dissolves in water but dehydrates the rain
    wrecks immune systems, heart, lungs and dilates the brain
    Aluminum ingestion - stands next beside
    ethylene dibromide - a banned pesticide
    other mysterious substances analyzed in residues
    sticky microscopic polymer fibers in septic brews
    highly toxic biohazard pathogens and funguses
    Operation CloverLeaf - bad luck and one to miss
    asthma, allergies, pneumonia and bronchitis
    now breathing is detrimental for long life bliss
    cos they spray

    poison thru the sky, to poison you an i...

    who paints out blue skies with white masks and lies
    canopies and grids with flights paths in lines
    this criss cross won't make you JUMP JUMP
    it will make your lungs slump...

    LUCA SAYS:
    everyones acting a little nutty tonight
    they were sprayed in the day like its something they like
    I don't wanna be right but they got Luca
    my lungs froze up I'm in a doped up stupor
    still I caught a thought woke up pig shitty
    now I see why they got us huddled up in big cities
    depopulation control, they had to make it so
    but take it slow, 80% in case you didn't know.
    but I guess you would have never expected it
    how often do you look up and think about anything? connect it, your visions limited
    they're playing tic tac toe in the sky this shits livid
    Ive never been discredited looks its blow back
    ready to go like aerosolized prozac
    mayday mayday they're kickin our ass like Pele,
    I don't give a f what they say cos they spray

    poison thru the sky, to poison you and I...

    TRILLION SAYS:
    one day down it rained with a brownish goo
    and the whole town came down with flu
    is the intention to weaken the population?
    and why is NATO so deep in the operation?
    in a decade the US claim they'll own the weather
    to be used in warfare or unknown endeavours
    radio waves are powered as heaters
    at the ionosphere across thousands of metres
    to temperatures of fifty thousand degrees
    inducing huge storms and droughts as they please
    mass destruction - taking away liberties
    H A A R P
    are we in denial or comatose state
    welcome to the trial to own your own fate
    minds and bodies are under attack
    how many other creatures have run into the trap?
    these hazy lines poison the entire food chain
    'they're harmless' is the bribed science new claim
    they lie now about chemtrails above
    but time will soon hammer in them nails of love
    ...it's time to teach the youth
    how to make a new paradigm of peace and truth
    we can resist most pathogens with boosted immunity
    averting bio-warfare let loose in the community...
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  TRANCOSO on Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:19 pm


    International Law Encourages Use of Geoengineering Weather Modification
    Derrick Broze
    Thursday, December 5, 2013
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    According to a new study due to be published in 2014, Geoengineering field research is not only allowed, it is encouraged.

    The study was authored by Jesse Reynolds at Tilburg Law School in the Netherlands. Reynolds researched the legal status of geoengineering research by analyzing international documents and treaties.

    Geo-engineering is the science of manipulating the climate for the stated purpose of fighting mad made climate change. These include Solar Radiation Management (SRM), the practice of spraying aerosols into the sky in an attempt to deflect the Sun’s rays and combat climate change.

    According to a recent congressional report: “The term 'geoengineering' describes this array of technologies that aim, through large-scale and deliberate modifications of the Earth’s energy balance, to reduce temperatures and counteract anthropogenic climate change. Most of these technologies are at the conceptual and research stages, and their effectiveness at reducing global temperatures has yet to be proven. Moreover, very few studies have been published that document the cost, environmental effects, socio-political impacts, and legal implications of geoengineering. If geoengineering technologies were to be deployed, they are expected to have the potential to cause significant transboundary effects."

    In general, geoengineering technologies are categorized as either a carbon dioxide removal (CDR) method or a solar radiation management (SRM) method. CDR methods address the warming effects of greenhouse gases by removing carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere. CDR methods include ocean fertilization, and carbon capture and sequestration. SRM methods address climate change by increasing the reflectivity of the Earth’s atmosphere or surface.

    CONTINUE: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/international-law-encourages-use-of.html
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  TRANCOSO on Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:03 pm


    Is Chemtrails The Most Ignored Conspiracy Of Our Time?
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    Wednesday, December 11, 2013
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    As the days go by and become weeks, months and even years, a large segment of humanity struggles with the reality of an ugly distant truth we must all reconcile, one that we are forced to behold sometimes on a daily basis. Yes, we are forced to look at the evidence of the chemical trails in our local skies but not everyone reconciles the visual evidence for what it is. In fact, many of us deliberately and carefully avoid applying critical thought into the implications and ramifications of what could be.

    Too many of us put effort into avoiding, ignoring, or disbelieving the idea that government or any group of influential people would carry on with this agenda in a business as usual manner — while simultaneously and purposely exposing humanity to known toxic chemicals in the name of advancing an agenda for control of nature and humanity. Regardless of what side of the phenomenon you are on, you nonetheless are subjected to having to look up to the sky and see the trails of white for yourself.

    Everyone can see the evidence of the chemical lines being produced by actual planes in real time, an observation not hidden from anyone right? Or is it? Can everyone actually see the white trails of chemicals being artificially emitted into our skies?

    Can those who are asleep, in denial, or unaware of the spraying programs actually see the white trails in the sky? Given that we know from psychology experiments that humans are designed to only see what they are comfortable seeing depending on the circumstances. The 1953 Asch Conformity Experiment proved just that. Humans may or may not see something that is there depending on whether seeing it will generate social anxiety or not. Perhaps many don’t see the physical trails in the sky for similar reasons. That is, their senses do not pick up on the white lines because seeing them sets off a cascade of inconvenient thoughts and emotions they would rather not have to deal with. Something as inconvenient as aerial chemical spraying can be easily packaged away and subconsciously brushed off.

    CONTINUE: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/is-chemtrails-most-ignored-conspiracy.html
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  mudra on Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:31 pm

    Kristen Meghan, Geoengineering Whistleblower speaks at the Save LI Forum HD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S_qCV8kFPo


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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  TRANCOSO on Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:19 am

    NASA Expert: Chemtrails are Real and Rogue Geoengineers Could Blackmail the Earth
    Published on Apr 22, 2014

    Droughts, famine, chemtrails and the global game of risk: geoengineering is real, and inevitable part of the future, when science tries to orchestrate nature in the name of taming climate change, while experts argue over who will make the rules in the global governance of weather modification and geoengineering. Could a rogue billionaire tinker with the delicate balance of our Earth? Might a mad scientist even "weaponize" weather control to wield power over the planet? Everything is possible, warns a NASA Jet Propulsion Labs expert. Chemtrails and geoengineering are no longer the things of conspiratorial speculation or retro science fiction - they are the scenarios shaping the world to come as science contemplates how far is too far for man to go in the name of a global environmental crisis?


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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:07 am

    ok kind people, be nice, I have a question, a genuine one and I dont want to be shot down as a heretic, imagine being the first person to be bunned from the mists for heresy!!

    I have a net connection again and I have been looking deeply into the chemtrail issue, nothing upsets me more than those aeroplane farts that completely whiten the skies and block the sun.

    I have read about the geoengineering tests, I have read the patents applied for and granted, I know cloud seeding is happening. Weather wars are real..HAARP etc is real and messing with the climate... but one fundamental question remains completely unanswered!:

    What is the white stuff coming out of aircraft these days? I have always called them chem trails, but now I have serious doubts, I really think they may be persistent con trails....

    take a breath, relax. I have read so much around this subject but I have found NO EMPIRICAL DATA whatsoever, in my search. Does anyone know of direct chemical analysis of the trails? Im an ex-scientist, I want to see real data, real numbers I can analyze.... do they exist? can anyone point to samples taken of the actual trails themselves? I cant find any....

    and i will whisper quietly... I am starting to think they are con trails after all... even so, they shouldnt be there!  

    Anecdotally I dont remember the contrails persisting before, so why now? could it really be the new jet engine design that coincided with the chemtrail sightings? I know all manner of theories suggest that the contrails are mixed with an other chemical (either in fuel or sprayed from different aircraft) but again there is a serious lack of data.

    There was a big fuss over rainwater samples a while back, proof that barium was in the rain.... but it turned out the guy misread his results and reported parts per billion as parts per million.

    Does anyone have info? ONLY real data please, no links to geoengineering tests (of which many are documented) or conspiracy videos and sites... im looking for chemical analysis data....no anecdotes...
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  mudra on Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:25 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    Does anyone have info? ONLY real data please, no links to geoengineering tests (of which many are documented) or conspiracy videos and sites... im looking for chemical analysis data....no anecdotes...

    At first glance after a really quick search : http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml

    Sorry for the brief answer Vidya but I don't have much time right now .

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:47 am

    mudra wrote:
    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    Does anyone have info? ONLY real data please, no links to geoengineering tests (of which many are documented) or conspiracy videos and sites... im looking for chemical analysis data....no anecdotes...

    At first glance after a really quick search : http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml

    Sorry for the brief answer Vidya  but I don't have much time right now .

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    Thank you mudra... I have had a quick glance, it appears this site is saying that 'norrmal aircraft' produce normal (and short) contrails.. there are non commercial (presumed military?) aircraft not on this guy's database of flights which are responsible for producing the persistent trails... which would support a 'military chemtrail program'.... which is what I think I have found.. most commercial aircraft are producing contrails only... no chemtrails from these....

    this site doesnt have any chemical analysis data....

    Im travelling the next days, I will catch up as able and will try and read through all the data (the text is 4.5 font in places so a cut and paste job into word is required)
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  TRANCOSO on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:25 am

    Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must Be Stopped


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU


    Worst Chemtrail Spraying on Chicago Part I Sept, 20, 2011


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlb6ookZ-n4


    Danger In The Sky - The Chemtrail Phenomenon


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtLTyNOB0A


    How To STOP Chemtrails


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAkzlDOo_Zo


    The insider: Chemtrails KC-10 sprayer air to air - The proof


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU


    PROOF Poison is INTENTIONALLY sprayed in our air to make us sick!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P0OaWjv--U
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:54 am

    I was hoping to avoid a lot of video links and other anecdotal stuff. I am not interested at the moment in whistleblower testimony, or to reference of known geoengineering experiments (well documented). I dont have the bandwidth for videos anyway, but these vids rarely give real data..

    What I am looking for is data on the chemical composition of the trails coming out of the aircraft, real data, involving numbers and concentrations of chemicals within the trails....

    I have seen (at some point) most of the stuff just posted and it doesnt provide the info am looking for....

    Its obvious the skies are white from aircraft emissions... what I want to know is whether they are chemtrails or persistent con trails... and much to my surprise I think mostly the latter, certainly in terms of 'commercial flights'.  Proof of a white trail on a video camera is not proof of chem trails, its proof that the white trails are persistent.

    Testimony from Professor Joe Blogs (ex alphabet top secret agencies) is purely anecdotal without backup air chemistry.

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    edit..maybe i should start a new thread? didnt mean to hijack this one.... Freedom 
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:22 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote:I was hoping to avoid a lot of video links and other anecdotal stuff. I am not interested at the moment in whistleblower testimony, or to reference of known geoengineering experiments (well documented). I dont have the bandwidth for videos anyway, but these vids rarely give real data..

    What I am looking for is data on the chemical composition of the trails coming out of the aircraft, real data, involving numbers and concentrations of chemicals within the trails....

    I have seen (at some point) most of the stuff just posted and it doesnt provide the info am looking for....

    Its obvious the skies are white from aircraft emissions... what I want to know is whether they are chemtrails or persistent con trails... and much to my surprise I think mostly the latter, certainly in terms of 'commercial flights'.  Proof of a white trail on a video camera is not proof of chem trails, its proof that the white trails are persistent.

    Testimony from Professor Joe Blogs (ex alphabet top secret agencies) is purely anecdotal without backup air chemistry.

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    edit..maybe i should start a new thread? didnt mean to hijack this one.... Freedom 

    Perhaps this link will help you: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

    And you're certainly NOT hijacking this thread, Vidya!  Wink 
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    What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:29 am

    [quote="Vidya Moksha"]ok kind people, be nice, I have a question, a genuine one and I dont want to be shot down as a heretic, imagine being the first person to be bunned from the mists for heresy!!

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    Eh Vidya...there is much terminology used for this phenomenon of chemtrails...aerosol spraying, persistent contrails, etc.  You might find more of what you seek through this thread...

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t866p15-chemtrails-and-climate-evidence-in-plain-sight

    Pay special attention to Rosalind Peterson's video as she brings this subject up at the United Nations.

    A very goodie oldie site is www.bariumblues.com with scientific chemical data at this site:
    http://carnicominstitute.org/html/articles_by_date.html
    http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/ppm1.htm

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:28 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:

    Perhaps this link will help you: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

    And you're certainly NOT hijacking this thread, Vidya!  Wink 

    It was Dane Wigington that got me into this current search, I have bookmarked his geongineering site and have been reading it for some time now (more than a year).. and MANY MANY other sites.

    It was Danes claim that modern jet engines cant even produce contrails that made me sit up, really? If this is true it is the 'evidence' I have been looking for, I was always moaning about chem trails to anyone within earshot. So I looked into it (luckily I cant watch videos easily so I tried to do some real research not just watch you tube)....and I think he may be wrong.. in fact the modern engines and the cleaner aviation fuels may be causing the persistent contrails that many people (with NO evidence whatsoever; and me included until a few weeks ago) are calling chemtrails.

    In a typical dane article he publishes a graphic claiming air quality contains pcs (persistent contaminants) orders of magnitute above guidelines.... but he never gives his source and his data is not included in his articles, just lots of blah blah blah about the NWO and how they are trying to kill us off, and then into the usual mix of NWO conspiracies.....can read this at Ickes page or jones' mouthpiece.

    Post 911 anything is possible, who in their right mind could imagine such a thing could happen? And this event clearly caused many people to sit up and realise the increasing world facism......But in doing so many seem to have lost their discernment.

    I actually think Dane may be a disinfo agent... distraction is a part of 'their' toolkit and look everyone: 911...NWO... ref to some real geongineering  studies... talk of cloud seeding.. picture of contrail and SHOUT chemtrail. And we can all see 'chemtrails' in the sky, unlike the emperor's clothes, which only 'special' people could see  geek  1+1=26, we are being led up the garden path, ring through our noses. white trails in the sky means that there are white trails in the sky, nothing more. What are these white trails made up from? its almost impossible to answer that question empiracally

    I can post details of why I think Dane is wrong later, I am on the road at the moment and net access is limited.

    I am STILL searching for real data to satisfy myself that chemtrails may be real.... but at the moment I am tending to believe they they are persistent con trails and the whole chem trail issue is a hoax.. hence my first sentence a few posts back, I am looking for the truth, but this is one subject it seems you cannot go against the crowd.. apparantly only heretics and govt disinfo agents could possibly suggest that chemtrails are not real.. well Im neither, and I have serious doubts and I want REAL data.... please?

    Jenetta, I havent had time to look at your links yet, will do so...

    and good news folks, I havent seen a contrail of chemtrail for 5 months and here in the mountains in the tropics well off flight paths I can only see dozens of species of butterflies in the skies, some with wings as big as my hands... happy days  Very Happy

    edit: Jenetta. I did check out the links, dont need much time after all.... there is NO data here AT ALL, none! just scaremongering... beware anyone shouting barium, i know the source and it was chem tests of rainwater that were mis reported..... in fact this site made me shiver quite a bit.... i would be extremely cautious of this clifford carnicom geezer... (based on  a quick look through.but i have a good 'gut reaction' which i can rely on)

    surely there are chemistry results somewhere? compound tested. concentration found, sample date, sample method.. this sort of think.. no scaremongering please, or videos or conspiracy sites JUST REAL DATA!! ANYONE????

    clifford states :A series of qualitative chemical tests and deductions now confirm without doubt the presence of significant amounts of barium within atmospheric samples. And then gives NO references and provides NO data. Highly suspicious.

    also qualitative????? what nonsense.. we want quantitative data.... the guy's not even a scientisit with such a stupid statement as that.
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:47 pm

    Aren't you lucky Vidya to be living in the Tropics where there is no chemtrails...no artificial white sky and filtered sunlight to torture you day after day which I have been living with since the late nineties on the West Coast....www.aircrap.org.
    Modern commercial jet airliners and cleaner aviation fuel? Break a leg. Since the nineties manmade black/grey charcoal colored clouds...no more of those fluffy, pure white clouds we experienced in the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties even? Which cloud textbooks did you read?

    Now if you had looked at Carnicom's different articles more closely you would have discovered some scientific data on barium and fiber filaments from aerosol spraying. As well Morgellons Disease has been linked to chemtrails.

    http://carnicominstitute.org/articles/flame1.htm

    http://carnicominstitute.org/articles/micro3.htm

    And I don't believe for a moment that Dane of www.geoengineeringwatch.org is a disinformation agent!

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:29 pm

    [quote="Jenetta"]

    Now if you had looked at Carnicom's different articles more closely you would have discovered some scientific data on barium and fiber filaments from aerosol spraying.  As well Morgellons Disease has been linked to chemtrails.

    http://carnicominstitute.org/articles/flame1.htm

    http://carnicominstitute.org/articles/micro3.htm

    And I don't believe for a moment that Dane of www.geoengineeringwatch.org is a disinformation agent!

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    there is no data in the above links, and no data at all re the trails... i did read it... and the links....

    To be clear Im not saying that some geoengineering programs are not been carried out, but what I am saying is that i dont think the white trails we see on a daily basis are chem trails, i think they may be persistent contrails. I'm not saying morgellons isnt real, and i was in france last year when 'chem webs' fell from the sky!! that was quite something..... but this doesnt mean that whats is coming out of commercial aircraft are chemtrails.

    i am not sure about Dane, he provides no data, just a lot of scaremongering... he needs data to back up his claims.....but carnicom? this is an awful site, i looked some more last night.... sorry i cant be more specific now, Im travelling again today, just logged on to check travel details and had a quick peek in here....

    if you think there is real data re chemtrails from the above links then spell it out for me, I cant see it...

    Also I have lived in areas where the skies were white through aircraft emissions.. it is an awful sight. it should be stopped. It drives me crazy too! It is obvious that in many places the old fluffy clouds are gone. the clouds we see are artificially made from aircraft.... BUT i think they are persistent contrails. not chem trails.... and the jet engines and modern fuel CAN be linked to this... i will explain more in a day or two when i get chance, I have some data on my laptop, i will start a word document which i can paste in here...
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Jenetta on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:27 am

    A REMINDER ALWAYS HELPS!
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    From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life. The Dark Agenda of Synthetic Biology

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:18 am

    If you just want to realise how little they care for human life just look at Fukushima, and the credible evidence that it was a man made disaster. And how much attention does this potentially global extinction event receive?

    There are all manner of ways in which we are poisoned at every level of the food chain and many ways many people are not even aware of.  
    GMO foods? Massive pesticide use?  I wont go on, you get the idea.

    At the end of the day you kill something by not giving it energy, fighting something often gives your energy to feed that which is being fought.

    I realised a long time ago that governments don’t have any money of their own and only spend peoples money. I also realised I shouldn’t eat food with a bar code on it, food comes from the earth, without the need for toxic chemicals. I do ok,  I give my energy mostly where i want to, and I was purposely oblivious to all world concerns for many years... until Fukushima, when I realised the bastards could pour radiation on my head wherever I was in the world…

    That’s was a bit of a wake up again and I started looking at the net again to see what was going on out there….
    I have seen a ridiculous increase in what I used to call chem trails, I have always spent a lot of time out of doors and I watch the skies. I cant remember such skies in my younger days, certainly 70’s onwards…

    I was interested to see what was in the chemtrails, mostly to see how it will effect the wildlife and aquatic life. The wee beasties in water are quite sensitive to chemical poisons and they would be the first to show signs.. the problem is that pollutants come from everywhere these days, and now thatns to our friends at Monsatan even the plants themselves produce poison… you couldn’t make this XXXX up, no one would believe you….

    On a complete digress a friend of mine laughs at me for never using microwave ovens, to the point of refusing food cooked in one. I wanted to look at the effects of microwave cooking and could find ABSOLUTELY nothing, not even the most basic food safety tests… yet Russia banned their use for years (I gather they have relaxed this now?).. now NO data is scary, why not?

    Chemtrails on the other hand have masses of info, but very little or no data. Huge volumes are produced and nobody has ever proved their existence. No tests have been carried out on the trails that I can find the results of.

    There are some rainwater tests, but some of these are unreliable and proof that something is in the rainfall gives no indication of its source, it could be a factory/ industrial chimney hundreds of miles away….

    I  can find no evidence of a global geoengineering program, and if one did exists I cant imagine how many people would have to be involved, and not one of them has come forward, even though they are spraying themselves and their kids??

    Geoengineering is a complex science and at the moment is mostly mathematical models (I HATE mathematical models, they are BS, and I had to work with them for years, I know what I am talking about) see this for example http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013JD020627/abstract

    There are some geoengineering experiments that have been carried out, especially in the stratosphere and its here where a lot of the warning are aimed re rogue geoengineers, messing up the stratosphere could kill the planet, destroy ozone layer etc… these are real experiments and genuine warnings…. But we aren’t talking contrails or chemtrails here, that’s much lower in the atmosphere.

    In a modern aircraft burnt fuel containing hydrogen is combined with oxygen in the air to form water vapour, which usually condenses to form a visible trail. Because the exhaust gases are at a high temperature the condensation into a trail doesn’t happen until it has a chance to mix with the colder surrounding air, always some distance behind the aircraft

    If an aircraft were spraying some form of liquid or powdered solid, such as bacterial agents or aluminum particulates as suggested by many theorists, it should be most visible directly behind the trailing edge of the wing (or wherever the nozzles may be located), becoming less visible as it dissipates in the atmosphere in the wake of the plane. This is exactly what you see when watching a crop duster. In photos of chemtrails the trail starts behind the engines, ie they look like normal contrails.

    Having said that, it is possible to make a sprayed agent behave as a contrail. In the case of a liquid, it would have to be heated to the point of vapourization, so that the vapour would re-condense in a manner consistent with a normal contrail – some distance behind the aircraft. If the liquid were used as a medium for biological agents, the temperature required would most likely kill the microbes. If the high vapour temperature didn’t do the job, then the extremely low temperature of the surrounding atmosphere just might. Assuming these biological agents survived the hostile environment, they would tend to have a very slow rate of descent back to earth due to their microscopic size. (Microscopic dust from volcanoes is known to remain in the upper atmosphere for years after an eruption.) In all likelihood, atmospheric disturbances would scatter them and they wouldn’t even land in the area they were released. All in all, this seems an inefficient method of “bombing” the population with any type of harmful agents, if that is the intent.

    A reliable method would be to release the agents at very low altitudes, as is done by fire suppression aircraft and crop dusters.

    There is no hard and fast rule regarding the elevation at which an aircraft’s engines will produce contrails. Furthermore, there are a variety of atmospheric conditions, such as ambient temperature, relative humidity, concentration of dust particles and winds aloft that will affect how the trail behaves once it is produced. For instance, contrails tend to “persist” when produced in areas of high relative humidity and low temperatures, while they dissipate quickly in the presence of warmer, drier air.


    Descending air currents found in wind shear conditions can carry the aircraft’s exhaust gases to lower elevations and warmer temperatures where the moisture will vapourize, rendering it invisible. The portion of the contrail on the other side of the shear will remain in conditions that support its persistence. This accounts for breaks in visible contrails, which some have theorized indicates the “spray nozzles” have been turned off.


    Chaff tiny silicate/metallic particles deployed by military aircraft for the purpose of confusing the enemy’s radar and preventing them locking onto the aircraft. Because it’s important to use material with a low molecular weight to maximize the time the chaff remains suspended in the air, aluminum is most commonly used. What would happen if aircraft were deploying continuous streams of chaff and creating grids of the stuff, as claimed by some “chemtrail” theory proponents? Think about it. Radar used by air traffic controllers would be rendered useless. The aircraft would be pitted and the jet blades would corrode quickly... (it aint happening folks!)

    In addition to water vapour, jet exhaust contains carbon particles commonly referred to as “soot.” These particles make an excellent surface for moisture to condense upon, thus creating a visible cloud that spreads horizontally in the wake of the plane. But because of its dark colour, the sooty particulate absorbed solar energy which melted the ice crystals, dissipating the contrail. Today’s cleaner and thus clearer jet exhaust allows solar energy to pass right through it, and so contrails persist and spread into high cirrus clouds lasting 24-36 hours.

    The reason we see more contrails today, over every city and town, is because air traffic increased over 400% during the past 40 years.

    In the 2006 book, Weather Warfare, Jerry Smith explains that persistent contrails are not necessarily chemtrails. From the 1990s on, he explains, all jet engines were modified with a “high bypass turbofan” which increased fuel efficiency and, as a side effect, left persistent contrails that hazed into cirrus clouds after several hours. This is the timeframe when chemtrail sightings begin.

    Dane wingington claims precisely the opposite, that "high bypass turbofans" can not create contrails.

    Every year, we put more and more cars on the road which produce more and more particulate emissions. Increases in air travel have the same effect. Volcanic activity is on the rise, as is the destruction and burning of rainforests. Drought ridden areas are experiencing unprecedented forest fire activity. One would have to surmise that the concentrations of particulates in the atmosphere are higher now than they were a decade ago. More particulates = more condensation points for moisture = increased cloudiness.

    The chemicals that exist in contrails are the same ones produced by vehicles – hydrocarbons, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and various oxides of nitrogen. All of these substances are known to have an effect on air quality and chemistry. The scary thing is that aircraft emit these chemicals in large quantities miles up in the air. These are seriously bad for our health.. if you want to call contrails chemtrails then including these chemicals seems ligit… contrails are bad for our health.

    Persistent con trails blanket the sky and stop/ reduce solar radiation. Some claim this will leading to global warming, I think it will result in global cooling.. whatever, its still messing with the planets temperature and therefore climate.

    Chemtrails seem to be an emotional reaction mixed with fear and mistrust of government combined with a complete failure to understand the very complex science. Chemtrails just are not up to the job of delivering agents to kill people or to effect weather, the particles are too small to be reliable, they could be up there for a long time.. many of the chemicals that are claimed to be in chemtrails would be invisible, not visible…they will use crop dusters if they want to target a local population with aerial bombardment of nasty agents, not contrails.

    They have HAARP to really mess with the weather, and maybe some spaying to support this program??? I dont know, but from military aircraft, not commercial ones. That link that mudra provided above seems to suggest commercial aircraft are producing contrails, some persistent, most not, but other planes, non commercial, that produce only persistent contrails..(even chemtrails? i dont know.... nobody does, there is NO DATA).

    So… I am still looking for real data... anyone? can anyone prove that chemtrails exist? Can anyone give me real chemistry data? Please (if you do reply) don’t keep posting videos of conspiracy presentations, I want real data. If there is real data in a video can you please take a few lines to explain it to me… I cant easily watch videos…

    The gist of what i am saying is that all those videos of commercial aircraft showing 'chem'trails, are in fact contrails. I would further suggest that all commercial aircraft produce only contrails and now (jet design, fuel change and increased atmospheric particulates) very persistent contrails which mess with our health and the planet.... I am not saying there have not been military or other scientific tests, in which chemicals might have been released.

    Its quite amazing I can even communicate with you. At an elevation of a couple of thousand metres I am sat sheltering from a most impressive tropical storm, lightning is flashing across the sky and the monsson rains are torrential. There is a local power cut, its dark apart from the lightning flashes…. And sadly I am so close to a cell phone tower I can use my laptop and internet dongle and post to the mists… what a world Wink

    (ps i did nick a bit of the above from various sources i downloaded to my hard drive, but all in keeping with my own research into this)  study
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:40 pm

    Vidya I have'nt found any lab analysis of the content of chemtrails either.
    I wonder how one would proceed to analyse it ? Any idea what would be
    required ? The chemtrails are afterall very high up ?
    I would imagine this can't be done without some sophisticated equipment.  
    Would that need a substantial amount of money ? Just wondering.

    The following video just came up . If you are able to watch it tell us what
    you think this is.

    BUSTED Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS while landing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O01ZebpBHhU


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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:35 pm

    Hi Mudra
    i would have thought a helicopter could collect samples, or a small aircraft, it would fly through the trails and collect samples.. shouldnt be so difficult, same idea as collecting water samples from deep oceans, in reverse.... or even a good set of air quality data, even rainfall analysis, though the latter arent definitive proof....testing the aviation fuel?

    i saw this video doing the rounds but havent watched it, my first thought was fuel dump? which is something else that hasnt been widely discussed, its a common practice just to dump aviation fuel before landing!! quite incredible really...but i posted a link below..

    The planet is in a shocking state, you want conspiracy, i dont know that its true but the analogy holds that aliens did  land, and they got us humans to terraform the planet for them so they could live here and we cant! I cant prove this outlandish theory, but the evidence is in plain sight all around us....

    Back to chemtrails, if i was one of 'they' I would encourage and promote such distraction, it gives them breathing space to get on with all the programs that are not in the public domain...

    how many people have heard of simazine? yet this is sprayed in vast quantities on railways tracks to suppress weeds, (ever seen a plant growing near railway tracks?) and even if you test for it its not there, it breaks down to compounds which are not tested for.... crazy world. we need to stop destroying our life support systems on this planet, and we need to stop persistent con trails.. but i really think the 'chemtrail' issue that is the current alternative media frenzy is a hoax... what else to say?

    https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing-aerodynamic-contrail-wake-vortex.3551/
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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  mudra on Thu May 01, 2014 11:56 am

    Hi there Vidhya ,

    Now that you brought the subject of debunking chemtrails I noticed there is quite a bit of material on this specially on the following website that I quickly glanced through and believe contain data that go along your line of reasoning : http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

    What occurs to me is that if I could'nt find any detailed lab tests of content of actual air samples of these persistent traces in our skies done by the people that believe these traces are loaded with chemicals , I could'nt find any such detailed lab tests done by the people that believe these are just mere contrails either.

    The following article came out this month and indicate there is a technology using a chemical catalyst that is able to influence the weather.

    China tests anti-smog drone aircraft

    (Reuters) - China tested a domestically-produced drone aircraft designed to disperse smog on Saturday, official media reported, in an important step for the country's domestic aviation industry.

    At the opening of an annual parliament meeting last week, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said that China will "declare war on pollution.

    Almost all Chinese cities monitored for pollution last year failed to meet state standards. The environment has emerged as one of Beijing's key priorities amid growing public disquiet about urban smog, dwindling and polluted water supplies and the widespread industrial contamination of farmland.

    The unmanned aerial vehicle, produced by a subsidiary of state-owned aviation giant Aviation Industry Corp of China (AVIC), disperses fog and smog by releasing a chemical catalyst, state news agency Xinhua reported on Sunday.

    Compared to other methods for spreading catalysts, the use of drones will reduce risks and cut costs, Xinhua reported.

    read on : http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-china-drone-idUSBREA2801G20140309

    Personal note: " compared to other methods for spreading catalysts " . It would be interesting to hear more about these other methods don't you think  as well knowing what these chemicals actually are ?

    I don't know about you but my gut feeling is they are not the first one to play with chemistry in our skies and I won't buy that is actually a good thing.

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Fri May 02, 2014 10:01 am

    Hi mudra, I will have a look for some real data and let you know if I find any. Part of the problem is wading through all of the junk that is posted, perhaps i should take a look at your search engine post to find some good browsers that might filter the results better..

    But I dont think there is a whole lot of info out there.... Air quality is bad in places anyway, here in Asia there are a huge number of 2 stroke petrol engines powering rickshaws.. the air smalls with oil and petrol fumes almost everywhere, and you can see it at night.... horrible, and china is much worse...

    the planet is in a poor state... not living close to the corexit pond, i cant see past fukushima for things to be aware of at the moment (but cancer is curable), we all have to do our bit to make it better, so seems to me the best thing to do is start a new farm, and forget about all the world news. time to build a compost toilet, build a wildlife pond, create a food garden and watch the world go by....so thats what Im up to.. catch you later  Big Grin 2 

    I have to go back to the hills now for a couple of weeks and im trekking without my laptop, so I will post when able....

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    Re: What In The World Are They Spraying?

    Post  TRANCOSO on Fri May 02, 2014 9:22 pm

    What’s With the Weather and Chemtrails?
    Catherine J. Frompovich
    Friday, May 2, 2014

    There’s an aphorism about the weather that goes something like this: “Everyone talks about the weather but no one can do anything about it.” Well, don’t be so sure about that, especially since several means of atmospheric manipulation have become commonplace, if not mainstreamed.

    Weather modification has been one of the ultimate prizes for technology to capture, especially those who want to use it as a weapon of war. What? Yes, a weapon of war that has been used in the relatively recent past. Operation Popeye was “a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia from 1967 to 1972” [1] during the Vietnam War.

    In December of 2007 Professor Michel Chossudovsky, Founder and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), published an extraordinary paper titled “Weather Warfare: Beware the US Military’s Experiments with Climatic Warfare” wherein he discussed such things as “HAARP was developed as part of an Anglo-American partnership between Raytheon Corporation, which owns the HAARP patents, the US Air Force and British Aerospace Systems (BAES).” [2] Readers will note that two nations’ government-war-machinery-branches are involved: the US Air Force and the British Aerospace Systems. There is more to HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) that involves other nations with “establishments” around the globe.

    CONTINUE: http://www.activistpost.com/2014/05/whats-with-weather-and-chemtrails.html

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