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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  devakas on Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:00 pm

    Sanskrit is the one of the original language which has retained its crystal purity. Sanskrit diction maintained its affable style and original structure its age old vocabulary works even today as it was in old civilisation and primitve ages, the past.
    An ancient literature of the world, the Vedas, book for humanity of minds development the Upanishads and their richness connecting old Indian values with modern value, still available in the same form as were written since ages. There are lot many mentors in India who can interpret them today, as they were during their original framing.Vedas interpretation comes by continous steady process of assimilation of knowledge linking a variety of disciplines via Sanskrit.
    Veda meaning knowledge or Wisdom in Sanskrit related to Vedic (VAY-dik) Tradition, the oldest living system of thought on earth. Vedas envisage Vedic concepts, teachings, philosophy, scriptures, sciences and everything that we can think of related to the Sanatana Dhrama.
    The Vedic tradition of knowledge, based on the extensive Vedic literature, is the oldest
    tradition of knowledge in the world. Though it has been long preserved in India, this traditional wisdom has been almost lost in recent centuries-due in part to repeated foreign invasions. The Vedic tradition includes detailed information on a wide range of topics-from astronomy to music, architecture to health care, administration to economy. But it is all based on the knowledge of consciousness-including technologies of consciousness, and evolution to the highest state of consciousness (enlightenment).
    Albert Einstein:"We owe a lot to Indians who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."
    Mark Twain (1835-1910)
    "Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of human speech,
    grandmother of legend, great grandmother of tradition. The land that
    men with intellectual bent desire to see and having seen once even by
    a glimpse, would not give that glimpse for the shows of the rest of
    the globe combined."
    [B]Julius Robert Oppenheimer (1904-1967) One of the world's greatest
    physicists, known as 'the father of the atomic bomb'
    "Access to the Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim
    over all previous centuries."
    [B]T. S. Eliot

    " Indian philosophers' subtleties make most of the great European
    philosophers look like schoolboys."
    George Bernard Shaw,
    (1856-1950) Dramatist, Nobel Laureate in
    Literature
    "The Indian way of life provides the vision of the natural, real way
    of life. We western veil ourselves with unnatural masks. On the face
    of India are the tender expressions which carry the mark of the
    Creators hand."
    H. G. Wells
    (1866-1946), English author and political philosopher
    There is space in its philosophy for everyone,
    which is one reason why India is a home to every single religion in
    the world.
    Sir William Jones,
    English philologist
    "Wherever we direct our attention to Hindu literature, the notion of
    infinity presents itself."
    Ralph Waldo Emerson
    (1803-1882) American author, essayist, lecturer,
    philosopher, Unitarian minister
    "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was as if an empire
    spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent,
    the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had
    pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
    Andrew Tomas
    (1906- 2001) an Australian UFO pioneer, author of
    several physics, astronomy and spiritual books
    The atomic structure of matter is mentioned in the Hindu treatises
    Vaisesika and Nyaya. The Yoga Vasishta says, there are vast
    worlds within the hollows of each atom, multifarious as the specks in
    a sunbeam - which we have now assumed as true.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
    (1788-1860), great German
    philosopher and writer
    "In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating
    as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace of my life; and it
    will be the solace of my death. They are the product of the highest
    wisdom."
    Francois Marie Voltaire
    (1694-1774) France's greatest writers and
    philosophers.
    " I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of
    the Ganga - astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc."
    " It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least
    Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganga (Ganges) to learn
    geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange
    journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long
    established in Europe"
    Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831),
    great German philosopher
    "India has created a special momentum in world history as a country to
    be searched for knowledge."
    Friedrich Hegel
    (1770-1831), great German philosopher
    "It strikes everyone in beginning to form an acquaintance with the
    treasures of Indian literature, that a land so rich in intellectual
    products and those of the profoundest order of thought"
    Roger-Pol Droit
    French philosopher, and Le Monde journalist,
    "The Greeks loved so much Indian philosophy that Demetrios Galianos
    had even translated the Bhagavad-Gita". There is absolutely not a
    shadow of a doubt that the Greeks knew all about Indian philosophy."
    Frederich von Schlegel,
    (1772-1829), German philosopher, critic, and
    writer, the most prominent founder of German Romanticism
    "There is no language in the world, even Greek, which has the clarity
    and the philosophical precision of Sanskrit," adding that " India is
    not only at the origin of everything she is superior in everything,
    intellectually, religiously or politically and even the Greek heritage
    seems pale in comparison."
    Voltaire,
    (1694-1774), France's greatest writers
    and philosophers,
    "the Veda was the most precious gift for which the West had ever been
    indebted to the East."
    Alfred North Whitehead,
    British Mathematician
    The vastest knowledge of today cannot transcend the buddhi of the
    Rishis in ancient India; and science, in its most advanced stage now,
    is closer to Vedanta than ever before.
    Dr. Fritjof Capra,
    American physicist
    To the Indian Rishis the divine play was the evolution of the cosmos
    through countless aeons. There is an infinite number of creations in
    an infinite universe. The Rishis gave the name kalpa to the
    unimaginable span of time between the beginning and the end of
    creation.
    Herman Hesse
    (1877-1962) German poet
    novelist, awarded the Nobel
    Prize for literature in 1946 says:
    "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of
    life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
    Henry David Thoreau
    (1817-1862), American Philosopher, writer,
    Unitarian, social critic, transcendentalist:
    "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
    philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in comparison with which our modern
    world and its literature seems puny."
    John Archibald Wheeler,
    (1911 - 2008) American physicist,
    he was the first involved in the theoretical development of the atomic bomb and first to coin the ?Black Hole' who later occupies the chair that was held
    by Einstein.
    It is curious that people like Schroedinger, Niels Bohr, and
    Oppenheimer were Upanishad scholars.
    Ella Wheeler Wilcox,
    (1850-1919) famous American poetess
    and journalist
    " India - the land of Vedas, the remarkable works contains not only
    religious ideas for a perfect life, but also facts which science has
    proved true. Electricity, radium, electronics, airship, all are known
    to the seers who founded the Veda.
    Hans Torwesten,
    German philosopher and writer
    The Vedas and the Upanishads are India's proudest and most ancient
    possessions. They are the world's oldest intellectual legacies. They
    are the only composition in the universe invested with Divine origin,
    and almost Divine sanctity. They are said to emanate from God, and are
    held to be the means for attaining God. Their beginnings are not
    known. They have been heirlooms of the Hindus from generation to
    generation from time immemorial.
    Professor F. Max Muller,
    German philosopher , philologist
    "The Vedic literature opens to us a chapter in what has been called
    the education of the human race, to which we can find no parallel
    anywhere else."
    Jean-Sylvain Bailly,
    great French Astronomer
    "The motion of the stars calculated by the Hindus before some 4500
    years vary not even a single minute from the tables of Cassine and
    Meyer (used in the 19-th century). "The Hindu systems of astronomy are
    by far the oldest and that from which the Egyptians, Greek, Romans and
    - even the Jews derived from the Hindus their knowledge."
    Aldous Huxley
    'Hinduism, the perennial philosophy' that is at the core of all
    religions.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
    (1788-1860), German philosopher and writer
    "How entirely does the Upanishad breathe throughout the holy spirit of
    the Vedas! How is every one, who by a diligent study of its Persian
    Latin has become familiar with that incomparable book, stirred by that
    spirit to the very depth of his Soul !'
    Romain Rolland
    (1866-1944) French Nobel laureate, Historian
    "Religious faith in the case of the Hindus has never been allowed to
    run counter to scientific laws, moreover the former is never made a
    condition for the knowledge they teach, but there are always
    scrupulously careful to take into consideration the possibility that
    by reason both the agnostic and atheist may attain truth in their own
    way. Such tolerance may be surprising to religious believers in the
    West, but it is an integral part of Vedantic belief."
    Julius Robert Oppenheimer
    (1904-1967) Nuclear physicist, philosopher,
    The famour scientist and was the developer of the atomic bomb
    'The Gita, the most beautiful philosophical song existing in any known
    tongue.'
    H. G. Wells
    (1866-1946), English author
    and political philosopher
    Hinduism is synonymous with humanism. That is its essence and its
    great liberating quality."
    Lord Curzon
    (1859-1925) British statesman, Viceroy of India from 1899
    to 1905, and later became chancellor of Oxford University
    " India has left a deeper mark upon the history, the philosophy, and
    the religion of mankind,than any other terrestrial unit in the universe."
    William Butler Yeats
    (1856-1939) Irish poet, dramatist, and essayist
    and Nobel Laureate
    "It was only my first meeting with the Indian philosophy that
    confirmed my vague speculations and seemed at once logical and boundless."
    Mark Tully
    former BBC correspondent in India, author
    But I do profoundly believe that India needs to be able to say with
    pride,"Yes, our civilization has a Hindu base to it."
    Paul William Roberts Professor at Oxford , award-winning television
    writer, producer, journalist, critic and novelist.
    'India is the only country that feels like home to me,
    the only country whose airport tarmac I have ever kissed upon
    landing.'
    Pierre Simon de Laplace
    ( 1749-1827) French mathematician,
    philosopher, and astronomer, a contemporary of Napoleon.
    Laplace is best known for his nebular hypothesis of the origin of the solar
    system. " It is India that gave us the ingenious method of expressing all
    numbers by ten symbols, each receiving a value of position as well as
    an absolute value, a profound and important idea which appears so
    simple to us now that we ignore its true merit. But its very
    simplicity, the great ease which it has lent to all computations, puts
    our arithmetic in the first rank of useful inventions, and we shall
    appreciate the grandeur of this achievement the more when we remember
    that it escaped the genius of Archimedes and Appollnius, two of the
    greatest men produced by antiquity."
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    Post  devakas on Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:03 pm

    More quotations on the Bhagavad-Gita:
    "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous."
    Albert Einstein
    "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a new meaning for every civilization."
    Sri Aurobindo
    "The Mahabharata has all the essential ingredients necessary to evolve and protect humanity and that within it the Bhagavad-Gita is the epitome of the Mahabharata just as ghee is the essence of milk and pollen is the essence of flowers."
    Madhvacarya
    "The Gita was preached as a preparatory lesson for living worldly life with an eye to Release, Nirvana. My last prayer to everyone, therefore, is that one should not fail to thoroughly understand this ancient science of worldly life as early as possible in one's life."
    Lokmanya Tilak
    "The Gita is one of the clearest and most comprehensive one, of the summaries and systematic spiritual statements of the perennial philosophy ever to have been done"
    Aldous Huxley
    "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial."
    Henry David Thoreau
    "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."
    Dr. Albert Schweitzer
    "The idea that man is like unto an inverted tree seems to have been current in by gone ages. The link with Vedic conceptions is provided by Plato in his Timaeus in which it states 'behold we are not an earthly but a heavenly plant.' This correlation can be discerned by what Krishna expresses in chapter 15 of Bhagavad-Gita."
    Carl Gustav Jung
    "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
    Hermann Hesse
    "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
    Ralph Waldo Emerson
    "In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it."
    Rudolph Steiner
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    Post  devakas on Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:27 pm

    Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
    "The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and subtlety of Vedic culture."

    "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial"
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    Post  devakas on Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:35 pm



    This is very interesting fact, supporting Vedic aryan global influence. Recently discovered still existing folk songs in Greece, songs about Orpheus, Krishna, Siva supports idea of some researchers that ancient Aryan civilization spread to the West to Egypt, Rome, Greece.

    Veda Slovena
    Bulgarian folk songs from pre-historical and pre-christian time, discovered in Thrace and Macedonia and published by Stefan I. Verkovich in 1874.
    The author has been collecting these songs for more than 10 years from 2 main regions:
    1. Rodopi, the biggest mountain in Thrace, where the Bulgarians, speaking the pomashki dialect were living.
    2. Eastern Macedonia, where the Bulgarians who lived there spoke marvashki dialect.
    These tribes live in the most isolated places and despite all changes of time, somehow or other, they have saved their authentic folklore. They have a small idea of Christianity. And others know some Muslim prayers but basically they continued to follow their original tradition.
    In that book there are a couple of songs about Krishna, Vishnu, Siva, Orpheus etc. One of them is from a village named Eleshnitsa, East Macedonia, nowadays Greece:
    The Birth of Orpheus
    “Brava krale… si se moli: Oi ti Boje, Vishnu Boje!
    Ja dai si mi Boje, na staro vreme edno chedo
    Lu da si gu vide pa da si um Toi da si mi zeme nasledi…”
    “Dete yunak…sha si furka na nebetu, sus svirka Vishnu Boga da si fail.
    Sova dete moshtne nishanlie sha si bode, sha zaptisa sita zeme I planini,
    da si bode purva krale na zemeta.” Reche staru dedu ne otreche,
    pa si furkna gore na nebetu, du si fail Vishnu Boga,
    shto si pravi chuda na zemeta.

    “An old king was praying: Oh, Great God,
    Vishnu Please give me oh, God a child in my old age.
    Let me see him and then I die,
    Let him inherit my land…
    Later, a saintly person came down from the sky and said predicting:
    “You’ll have a son from heaven, he’ll glorify Lord Vishnu with his flute.
    This child will have all good qualities, He’ll pacify all lands and mountains,
    He’ll be the king of the earth.” The saintly man said all that,
    and flew back in the sky to glorify Lord Vishnu who’s performing His miracles on earth.

    Verkovich had collected 56 songs and they published only 15. Later he selected the best from the unpublished songs and sent them to the French Consul in Plovdiv (August Dozon) and he published them as “Unpublished Bulgarian Folk songs” – “Chanson populaires Bulgares inedites” Paris, 1875. They are now found in the archives of the Bulgarian Academy of Science. There is another interesting song about Orpheus, who was heartbroken after his wife’s departure. It consists of 462 lines. Here are a few of them:
    Orpheus finds his wife Dana
    Orpheus was wondering why and how she disappeared and a voice from the sky told him:
    “Ni ta klel Siva boga ya ta klel Visnu boga”…
    “Vishnum Dana Defina Defina mi trisuletna”…
    …“It is not done by Lord Siva, but it is done by Lord Vishnu …
    “Dana became a servant of Vishnu, servant for three years.”

    Although he understood this, he had a strong desire to see her and he started praying:
    “Vishnu le Boje tebe sa Boje mole che na tebe dumilevam!”
    Orfei sa molba moli Vishnu mu molba chue…
    “Oh, my dear Lord Vishnu I’m praying unto You You are my only shelter!”
    Orpheus is humbly praying And Lord Vishnu hears him
    Vishnu mercifully fulfills his desire and He takes him back in His palace in the upper sky. By the way the name VISHNU is mentioned hundreds of times in all of the songs and he’s always depicted as the Supreme Lord (Gulema Boga). There are other interesting songs about Siva, Durga, Surya, Agni, etc. Atheists and communists call them mythology or mystification…
    Christians condemn it as paganism – and therefore the Bulgarian Ministry of Education rejected their publication until 1997. But the serious scientists agree and confirm that they are authentic and are pre-christian.
    Krishna is not mentioned in the songs about Orpheus, but he appears on the pages of Veda Slovena under the name Kolada, which means the young or little Krishna named Krusni, the cowherd boy, who became the king of the earth.
    60 Lines about Krishna from Volume 2 of Veda Slovena:
    Bre li mi Krusnyu, bre mi na pole tsare mene sa lyutum kani,
    chi da si rodi mujku dete, zlatna si sabe vie, ta mi dete seche.

    Oh my dear Krishna, Look, this evil king Who wants to kill me badly ‘cos of the son I’ll bring.
    Golden sword he’s waving, He wants to kill my kid.
    F sarae mu star bilarin, blirna mu kniga pee, blirna mu kniga kitape,
    chi sha rode mujku dete.

    A prophet in his fancy palace, Sings an ancient book for him.
    And the ancient book is saying, That I will bear a male kid.

    Tsaryu sa dosta nalyuti, nalyuti sa, razedi sa,
    ta ma metna u zandana da ma seche zaluk pu zaluk.

    The king is really angry Angry - really mad! He threw me in the prison, And will cut me bit by bit

    “Stara mi maika u gora, u gora u Vida mujku si dete rodila,
    mujku hi dete Krusna. Chi hi sa tsare kani da hi dete seche.”

    “My old mother in the woods, In the woods of Vida,
    Gave birth to a shiny son, And His name is Krishna.
    And the king he does Want to chop her son.

    ” Malu mi mlogu devet godini sivu mi stadu pase…

    More or less nine twelve months Krishna tends His countless cows…

    Krusna mi mlada pastuha sivu mi stado pase, Veda si kniga pee, ta si mi yuda mae.

    Krishna, my cowherd boy, Tends gray herds, oh my, And he’s singing Veda book,
    Charming all the goddesses in wood.

    Pa mi na pole sleva tsare mu na urdie, ta mi sa borba bori, ya gu s karlika nadbori,

    Then he walks down at the ring, At the challenge of the king.

    After a very terrifying fight, With a stick He showed his might. Ta mu sarae pleni. Krusna mi mlada tsare

    And he conquered the court. Krishna – young king of the world,
    pusta zeme zaselil, pusta mi zeme Zain, det mu chuvek ni fodil, det mi pile ni furkanalu.

    Populated the desert land, The desert land before the end,
    Where no one has ever been. Neither birds do fly nor sing.

    Pa mi sa Krusna ni jeni, chi e na nebe Vedyu, Vedyu mi diven. Krusna mi kniga pee,

    By then Krishna never wedded, He’s omniscient and divine.
    He’s the Knower of the Veda, Krishna sings it all the time.

    ta si tsare nadbori ta mu pleni saraete, Krusna mi mlada tsare.

    he defeated the evil king, and took over his nice courts. Krishna – my young Lord!

    Ya mi sedi malu-mlogu, malu-mlogu tri godini, zakara si mladi yunatsi, mladi yunatsi, malki momi,

    Years passed not more or less, He ruled there for three twelvemonths.
    Then accompanied by His brave friends, His brave friends and His young wives,

    ta mi utide na pole, det’ mi e pole pustu, pustu mi zapustenu, Zaina mi zeme zaseli.

    Went where no one else has been, Desert land no one has seen.
    To populate that wasted land, Which is just before the end.

    Krusna mi veke stara, ya mu dusha ni izleze, lu si furkna na nebetu, ta mi na nebe Vedyu,

    Krishna lived for many years, But His Soul did never leave, He rose to heaven – as He is, Beyond the sky is where He lives.

    Vedyu mi diven. Subrali sa malki momi, subrali sa av sarae,
    ta mu pesna, ta mu pesna ustanala.

    Oh, my Lord omniscient and divine! Young girls gathered, Gathered in the palace, And they sang a song, And it stayed forever.
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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  Carol on Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:26 pm

    I've always felt a special affinity for the Vedic scripts and often thought I had a past life connection with writing it.
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    Post  devakas on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:16 pm

    Carol wrote:I've always felt a special affinity for the Vedic scripts and often thought I had a past life connection with writing it.
    I do not have any doubt Carol sunny Every your post I read shows your unearthly integrity.





    Our original spiritual freedom

    Everyone is related with the Supreme consciousness, just as a father and son are related.
    That relation cannot be broken at any stage, but sometimes it happens that the son, out of his
    own independence, goes out of his home and forgets the affectionate relationship with the father.
    Today so many sons leave the father's affectionate home. Everyone has that independence. Similarly,
    we are all sons of God, but we are, at the same time, independent. Not fully independent, but
    independent. We have the tendency of independence because God is fully independent and we are
    born of God. Althought we cannot be absolutely independent, as God is, we have the tendency to think,
    "I shall become independent." The only thing from this relationship left for us is this consciouness desire to seek love.
    Everyone wants love, everyone wants to be loved. Even cats and dogs, all.

    We living entities are part of God. When we want to live independently of creation, the conditional stage
    of our existence begins. "Conditional stage" means we accept a material body, which is conditioned in so
    many ways. For example, the body undergoes six kinds of change: It is born at a certain date, it
    remains for some time, it grows, it gives some byproducts, it dwindles, and at last it vanishes.
    Besides these six changes of the body, we face many tribulations. There are the threefold miseries:
    those pertaining to the body and mind, those offered by other living entities, and those caused by
    natural disturbances. And the whole thing is summarized into four principles, namely birth, death, old age,
    and disease. Together these make up our conditional life.

    Our Original Consciousness

    To get out of these conditions of life, we must revive our God consciousness. God consciousness is
    our original consciousness. Just as it is natural to remember our father in this life, it is natural
    to remember our original father. But we forget the supreme father and we want to live independently to
    enjoy life according to our whims.

    That is so-called independence. But by such independence we are never happy, so for this illusory happiness
    we transmigrate from one body to another. Each type of body has a particular facility for happiness.
    We want to fly in the sky. But because we are not human beings, we have no wings and cannot fly. But the
    birds, althought they are lower animals, can easily fly. If you analyze you 'll seethat every type of body
    has a particular facility that others don't. But we want all facilities of life. That is our inclination.
    For example, modern scientists are trying to go to other planets, but they're conditioned, so they cannot go.
    There are millions and trillions of planets before us- sun, the moon, Venus, Mars..Sometimes we wish, "How
    can I go there." But because we are conditioned and not independent, we cannot go.
    Originally, because we are spirit soul, we were free to go anywhere. For example Narada Muni moves everywhere;
    he can go to any planet he likes. And there is a planet within this universe called Siddhloka. The inhabitants
    of Siddhaloka can fly from one planet to another without an airplane. Even hatha-yogis who have practiced
    can go from anywhere to anyplace. They sit down in one place and immediately transfer to another place.
    They can take a dip in some river near here and can come out in some river in India. There are yogis powers.
    We have immense independence, but we are now conditioned by this body. Therefore the human form
    of life is an opportunity to get back our original independence. That is Krisna consciousness.
    That is freedom.


    Two Kinds of Material Body

    We have our spiritual body within the material body. That is our real identification. Now we are covered by
    two kinds of material body. One is called the subtle body and the other is called the gross body.
    The subtle body is made of mind, intelligence, and false ego, and the gross body is made of earht, water,
    fire, air, and ether. Generally we can see the gross body; we cannot see the subtle body. I know that
    you have your mind. I know that you have intelligence. You know that i have a mind and intelligence.
    But I cannot see your mind, I cannot see your intelligence, I cannot see your determination, I cannot
    see your thoughts, feelings,and will. Your see my gross body made of earth, water, air, and fire,
    and I can see your gross body. And when your gross body is changed and you are carried away by the
    subtle body, that is called death.
    We say, "Oh, my father has gone away." "How do you see that your father has gone away? The body is laying here."
    But actually the father has gone away by menas of the subtle body. Something similar happens at night. I am
    sleeping in a nice house, but my subtle body takes me away to the top of a mountain. Sometimes I
    am falling from a mountain. My gross body is sleeping in a house, but the subtle body carries me.
    We have daily experience of this.
    Similarly, death means we change the gross body. For example, you have your shirt and coat, and
    you may change the coat but keep the shirt. Similarly, we keep our subtle body and give up the
    gross body; that is called death. And by the laws of nature the subtle body carries us into the womb of
    another mother. Then we develop another gross body with materials supplied by the mother. And when the body
    is prepared, we come out of the womb to work again with our subtle and gross bodies. Bhagavata-dharma
    meaning is we have to transcend both the gross and subtle bodies and come to the spriritual body.
    It is very scientific. And as soon as we come to our real, spiritual body, being freed from the gross and subtle
    bodies, then we actually feel happiness and independence.
    The process of Krishna consciousness is the highest benediction for human society because it is trying
    to bring the human being to the platform of the spiritual body-transcending the gross and subtle
    material bodies. That is the hightest perfection. Human life is meant for coming to that platform, the
    spriritual platform, transcending the gross and subtle material bodily concept of life.
    That perfection is possible, and it has been made easy in this age. Kali-yuga, the current age,
    is not a very good time. Simply disagreementm, fighting, quarreling, misunderstanding.
    This age is full of all these. Therefore to come to the spiritual plantform is very difficult in
    this age. Formerly, it was not so difficult. People were very easily trained by the Vedic process.
    But now people are not interested. They're simply interested in the gross body or, for one a little
    advanced, the subtle body. But they have no information of the spiritual body. Althought education
    has progressed, there is no education about the spiritual body. Education is simply concerned
    with the gross and subtle material bodies. Those who understand it are very, very fortunate.

    "I AM Wasting My Valuable Life"

    We have been born as human beings, we do not know how to use human life. We are just like animals.
    The animal eats; we simply make arrangements to eat unnaturally. That is our advancement. In the
    animal kingdom every animal has a particular type of food. A tiger eats flesh and blood, but
    if you give the tiger nice oranges or grapes, he'll not touch them, because those are not his food.
    Similarly, a hog eats stool. If you give the hog nice halava, it will not touch it. You see? Every animal
    has a particular type of food.
    Similarly, we human beings have our type of food. What is that? Fruits, milk, grains, vegetables.
    Our teeth are made for such foods. If you take a fruit, you can easily cut in to pieces with your
    teeth. If you take a piece of flesh, it will be difficult to cut with these teeth. But a tiger has
    a particular type of teeth, and he can immediately cut flesh into pieces.
    We are advancing in education, but we do not even study our teeth. We simply go to the
    dentist, that's all. This is our advancement of civilization. The tiger never goes to the dentist.
    Its teeth are so strong that immediately it can tear raw meat into peices. But it doesn't
    require a dentist, because it doesn't eat anything unnatural for it. We eat anyting;
    therefore we require the help of a dentist.
    The human being has a particular type of business. That business is to study and discuss
    the bhagavata life. That is our natural business. We should try to understand God. The relationship
    between God and devotee is called bhagavata-dharma. This should be our only business.
    Suppose I have forgotten my home. I left my home a long time ago and have forgotten my father.
    So if somebody reminds me, "Do you know such-and-such gentleman? He is your father. You were playing
    in such a way, your father was helping you..." In this way, if he simply talks of my father,
    I will remember my home. Similarly, we have forgotten our relationship with God.
    If we simply hear about Him, then we will remember. It is a simple process.
    We simply have to hear about Creator. He is situated in everyone's heart, and we have forgotten
    our supreme father, on account of material contamination. Your life will be successful. You
    haven't got to do anything else. It doesn't require that you become an M.A. or a Ph.D. No,
    God has given you two ears, and you kindly submissively hear from realized souls, then your
    life will be successful. He is in within your heart. He'll help you in every way. So He gives
    you intelligence. What kind of intelligence? The intelligence to go back home, back to ethernal home.
    This life is opportunity to become creator conscious. "Please get up, please get up."
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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:35 pm

    Vedic Cosmos : The Mystery of the workings of the universe


    http://krishnatube.com/video/317/Vedic-Cosmos--The-Mystery-of-the-workings-of-the-universe

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    Part of awakening

    Post  devakas on Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:15 am

    I believe that part of awakening is and must be realized by all people who are in awakening process that 4 things defines Kali Yuga as evil seeds: intoxication, gambling, illicit sex, and meat-eating. It is very clear and realized in deep for Krisna movement boys and girls, but is it still hidden from all others.
    There are many discussions about those subjects, mixed in the coctail with personal freedoms and freedoms of life style, however the 5000 years old warnings still applies for those who seek to achieve a higher consciousness.
    http://www.vina.cc/news/index.php/Philosophical/Slavery-to-Banks-A-Vedic-Prophecy.html
    I hope all world will change soon and those evil seeds will melt and dissapear from human mind....:)
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    Post  devakas on Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:23 am

    mudra wrote:Vedic Cosmos : The Mystery of the workings of the universe


    http://krishnatube.com/video/317/Vedic-Cosmos--The-Mystery-of-the-workings-of-the-universe

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    THANK YOU so much mudra! This is great video. Aryans and science.... very cool.
    Also I thank you mudra for such a beneficial work you do here in the forum. You, trancoso, mercuriel, carol are amazing and very interesting people. I would like to hang out with you ..... at least here daily.
    thanks and be blessed from all my heart
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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  mudra on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:58 am

    You are very welcome dear Devakas.
    Even if you can't come in here daily
    it's good to see you are still with us
    on this journey .

    Hugs

    Blessings to you and love Always
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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  Floyd on Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:53 pm

    hare krishna, hare krishna, hare, krishna, hare krishna..hare rama, hare rama, hare rama, hare rame..well well. My sweet lord
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    Forbidden Archeologist

    Post  devakas on Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:02 pm


    A new book by Michael Cremo entitled as the Forbidden Archeologist is scheduled to be released on November 9th 2010.



    http://news.iskcon.org/node/3200#ixzz14L7msvIZ
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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  mudra on Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:36 pm

    Good to see you carrying on with this thread Devakas cheers

    Much Love dear sister
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    sustainable living

    Post  devakas on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:25 pm

    660-acre sustainable farm in Hungary lives in peace and teaches others how to respect and love nature:

    http://news.iskcon.org/node/3054/2010-08-14/krishna_valley_teaches_sustainable_living_to_thousands

    Select from dropdown list to view the farm...

    http://www.opencreative.hu/panorama/virtualis-tura/krisna-volgy/krisna-volgy-templom.html

    love to all in the mist!!
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    Slaughter free milk (new label for milk) opens near Watford in Hertfordshire

    Post  devakas on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:30 pm



    The Vedic scriptures and the Hindu tradition stress that humans depend so much on our relationship with cows and bulls.
    The gentle and innocent cow is our mother, for she nourishes us with life-giving milk.
    The powerful bull is our father, producing grains in the fields.
    We must treat all life as sacred, but we recognize that there is a special relationship with Krishna’s cows and bulls.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327006/Holy-cow-Pampered-cows-produce-Britains-expense-pint-milk-staggering-1-70.html#ixzz14QuqsZ38




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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  Carol on Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:48 pm

    ahh, we were just talking this morning about having a cow. Thank you for posting this devakas. flower


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    Post  devakas on Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:27 pm

    Carol wrote:ahh, we were just talking this morning about having a cow. Thank you for posting this devakas. flower

    This would be wonderful Carol! I always adore you... :)
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    Remembrances of Lives Past

    Post  devakas on Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:24 am


    past lives getting popularity...



    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/fashion/29PastLives.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=style`
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:34 am

    Mariadine wrote:

    Hello S.! I'm really enjoying reading your thread. Very Happy
    A music gift for you.

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    Post  devakas on Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:38 am

    Mariadine wrote:

    Hello S.! I'm really enjoying reading your thread. Very Happy
    A music gift for you.

    Love
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    Thank you Mariadine for the gift!

    Namaste to your soul!
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4zVROusUM[/quote]

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    Re: Vedic Scripts, wisdom and facts

    Post  Mariadine on Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:42 am

    devakas wrote:
    past lives getting popularity...



    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/fashion/29PastLives.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=style`

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    Yes. Read the book to. ...Well, it is said that, in the time of illumination the Buda saw all his pass lives...as a water drop, a tree, a bird.....the conscience voyage of the Self, through all forms as a mean of expansion of that same Consciense.

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