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    Post  newel on Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:12 pm

    mudra wrote:Have you had a chance to watch that Schubert documentary ? I have found it great.

    Not yet. I will later today.

    I'm still looking for versions of the Bach's piece. I keep finding better versions that I push in the first 10 positions of the playlist, leaving the rest in the order I found them. I just found Gould's version used in the movie Slaughterhouse-Five, one of my favorite movies, based on a Vonnegut's novel. It's in this movie that I heard this piece for the first time when I was a child in the seventies. It made a very strong impression on me, but I forgot about it, both the music and the movie. Later in my twenties I rewatched the movie, unnderstood it better, and fell in love with the music.

    Another piece that made a very strong (metaphysical) impression on me when I was young is Ennio Morricone's theme from the movie Once Upon A Time In The West:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Q8h-fDfEI

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    I would go as far as to say that these 2 movies and pieces of music reached me so deep inside when I was a kid that they defined my whole life.
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    Post  newel on Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:53 pm

    mudra wrote:Franz Schubert -The Trout documentary


    Thank you mudra. That was beautifully played indeed. It was a real treat to hear all these great musicians together when they were young.

    When I listen to Schubert, I always expect the sustained and logical drama of his Ave Maria and I'm not getting it. Same with Mendelssohn and his wedding march. In the case of Schubert, it's like he was using his melodic genius to homogenize a lot of distilled ideas into each work. Perhaps with the more restrictive genre of the Lied in regard to this tendancy, he was somehow refrained from doing it there and that's why people relate more to his songs.

    This video helped me understand why great musicians like to play Schubert together.
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    Post  newel on Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:17 pm

    mudra wrote:Yo-Ma - Bach's Cello Suite N°1


    Yes all these suites are great and Yo-Yo Ma's recording is the one with which I first discovered them. It's been a while since I listened to them all. Very soothing.
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    Re: Former Times Music

    Post  mudra on Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:24 pm

    metaw3 wrote: I just found Gould's version used in the movie Slaughterhouse-Five, one of my favorite movies, based on a Vonnegut's novel. It's in this movie that I heard this piece for the first time when I was a child in the seventies. It made a very strong impression on me, but I forgot about it, both the music and the movie. Later in my twenties I rewatched the movie, unnderstood it better, and fell in love with the music.

    I agree with you about Gould's version it is brilliant .

    I read the synopsis of SlaughterHouse 5 , watched the trailer and felt like seeing it .They did'nt have it in the video shop though.I noticed it's hard to find . Good movies have become rare .
    I wondered one day if I would keep them in a library how many would I really still want to watch over again . I found out I could count them on the fingers of my hands .
    One of those I have loved when I was young is Doctor Jivago . Through it I discovered former times Russia . It struck a chord in me . I tried to watch it again last year but somehow it was'nt the same anylonger .Some experiences we can only live once.

    I loved Lara's theme and still do .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXAa0XaS6bs&feature=related


    Another piece that made a very strong (metaphysical) impression on me when I was young is Ennio Morricone's theme from the movie Once Upon A Time In The West:
    I would go as far as to say that these 2 movies and pieces of music reached me so deep inside when I was a kid that they defined my whole life.

    He yes that movie impressed me too I remember and that piece of music is one of those that leaves timeless ripples in your heart .

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    Post  mudra on Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:35 pm

    Nice violin piece I found here from artist and composer Henry Flory .
    I believe he is not well known . I think he plays beautifully though.

    Bach Sonata N°3

    http://ia311241.us.archive.org/3/items/HenryFloryBachLargo/bach_largo_vbr.mp3

    http://www.archive.org/details/HenryFloryBachLargo


    Here is another version from Nathan Milstein.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKh-zZ4Jjs




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    Re: Former Times Music

    Post  newel on Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:52 pm

    mudra wrote:
    I read the synopsis of SlaughterHouse 5 , watched the trailer and felt like seeing it .They did'nt have it in the video shop though.I noticed it's hard to find .

    It's online if you can tolerate medium video quality:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTEzNTMzOTY=.html

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    Post  mudra on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:17 pm

    metaw3 wrote:
    mudra wrote:Franz Schubert -The Trout documentary


    Thank you mudra. That was beautifully played indeed. It was a real treat to hear all these great musicians together when they were young.

    When I listen to Schubert, I always expect the sustained and logical drama of his Ave Maria and I'm not getting it. Same with Mendelssohn and his wedding march.

    I understand what you mean.Now what I realized by watching this documentary is that top musicians when they come together could hardly play any piece of music and make it sound incredible .They were able to capture my full interest and attention to a composition I would'nt be specially be attracted otherwise. These were true magicians .They played with such ease and joy in their heart .
    I am glad you appreciated as much as I did.

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    Post  mudra on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:18 pm

    [quote="metaw3"]
    mudra wrote:

    It's online if you can tolerate medium video quality:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTEzNTMzOTY=.html


    Thanks sunny

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    Post  newel on Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:29 pm

    mudra wrote:Giovanni Battista Pergolesi _ Stabat Mater

    Sorry neither Safari nor Firefox are willing to take the playlist URL so I can embed it.

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FBB1E9C5A6E29FB4

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    I listened to this playlist today at work. This is a very good version of the Stabat Mater. Thank you for posting it mudra.
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    Post  mudra on Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:59 pm

    metaw3 wrote:

    It's online if you can tolerate medium video quality:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTEzNTMzOTY=.html


    I spend several hours today searching for another version as the one you gave me was stalling every 10 seconds. That's has been a trial and error time really but well worth it ! I must say I completely loved that movie metaw. It's so rich on so many levels . I do understand you counting it amongst your favorite ones. I am still smiling as it's been a long I had 'nt seen such a brilliant piece .
    5*****

    Would you like to share it with others here is the URL I found:
    http://www.aflamcity.com/films/Abattoir-5-streaming-10230.html

    Have you seen " La meglio gioventu " ( The best youth )from Marco Tullio Giordana ?
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346336/
    Completely different range but I found it excellent.
    I almost missed it when it came out in 2003 as no one was speaking about it .
    It got only shown in a small theater here in Belgium and yet so beautifull .

    Thank you so much for all you share with me .
    I appreciate very much.

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    Post  mudra on Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:27 pm

    Franz Schubert 's Ave Maria
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    Re: Former Times Music

    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:35 am

    metaw3 wrote:
    I listened to this playlist today at work. This is a very good version of the Stabat Mater. Thank you for posting it mudra.

    You are welcome metaw.
    I listened to Arvo Pärt's Te Deum again today .
    It's hard to come down to earth after this .
    Magnificent piece.
    Thank you.

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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:50 am

    Arturo Michelangeli- Debussy Reflets dans l'eau



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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:06 pm

    Arvo Pärt " 24 preludes for a fugue " 2002
    Dorian Supin's documentary film about the composer Arvo Pärt

    http://www.arvopart.org/article.php?id=0

    The film "24 Preludes for a Fugue" is definitely one of the year’s best due to its extraordinary intimacy, naturalness and simplicity. This is all conveyed so easily, comfortably and lightly, that you get the feeling that the filmmaker didn’t have any other worries except deciding when to turn on the camera. Even though, in reality, the shots are edited together from different times and the material was filmed in different years. In Dorian Supin’s film "And then came the evening and then the morning", Arvo Pärt expresses the thought that music exists in the world, even without any composers, just as a sculpture is hidden inside every stone. Just as a sculptor frees the sculpture from the stone, he frees music as if he were peeling a potato, the performer places it into a pot and carries it onto the stage. But in order to do this, you have to find the place, inside this "stone", where the music is hiding. Only this will cause the listener’s ears to hear and their eyes to see.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuURRRHBdBA&feature=PlayList&p=27AC199C4850F97A&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1


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    Post  newel on Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:40 pm

    mudra wrote:Arvo Pärt " 24 preludes for a fugue " 2002
    Dorian Supin's documentary film about the composer Arvo Pärt

    Thank you. I saw this one before but I don't understand Estonian nor Spanish. Do you? I'll wait for a French or English translation.
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    Post  newel on Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:41 pm

    Purcell: Man is for the woman made

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9dTPgRxR4

    Man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man;
    As the spur is for the jade,
    As the scabbard for the blade,
    As for digging is the spade,
    As for liquor is the can,
    So man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.

    As the scepter to be sway'd,
    As for night's the serenade,
    As for pudding is the pan,
    And to cool us is the fan,
    So man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.

    Be she widow, wife or maid,
    Be she wanton, be she stayed,
    Be she well or ill array'd,
    Whore, bawd or harridan,
    Yet man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.




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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:59 pm

    metaw3 wrote:
    mudra wrote:Arvo Pärt " 24 preludes for a fugue " 2002
    Dorian Supin's documentary film about the composer Arvo Pärt

    Thank you. I saw this one before but I don't understand Estonian nor Spanish. Do you? I'll wait for a French or English translation.

    No . I did'nt try to understand him . I let go of the meaning of the words and paid attention to the melody of his expressions. I wanted to know more of this man and enter his universe. I liked the scene where he is sitting alone in a patio and listens to the rain . I could hear the notes he was hearing in it and how that moment was a source of inspiration to him .I think he is an uncomplicated being allowing for the purity of his music .He seems to carry these notes around him ..You can almost hear them . I believe he sees the universe as an unending flow of music.

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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:08 pm

    metaw3 wrote:Purcell: Man is for the woman made

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9dTPgRxR4

    Man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man;
    As the spur is for the jade,
    As the scabbard for the blade,
    As for digging is the spade,
    As for liquor is the can,
    So man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.

    As the scepter to be sway'd,
    As for night's the serenade,
    As for pudding is the pan,
    And to cool us is the fan,
    So man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.

    Be she widow, wife or maid,
    Be she wanton, be she stayed,
    Be she well or ill array'd,
    Whore, bawd or harridan,
    Yet man is for the woman made,
    And the woman made for man.


    What a better singer than Andreas Scholl could one find for this song .
    That man carries man and woman in his voice Cheerful

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    Post  newel on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:50 pm

    mudra wrote:
    No . I did'nt try to understand him . I let go of the meaning of the words and paid attention to the melody of his expressions. I wanted to know more of this man and enter his universe. I liked the scene where he is sitting alone in a patio and listens to the rain . I could hear the notes he was hearing in it and how that moment was a source of inspiration to him .I think he is an uncomplicated being allowing for the purity of his music .He seems to carry these notes around him ..You can almost hear them . I believe he sees the universe as an unending flow of music.

    It's a wonderful experience to discover a composer we like and go through his oeuvre. I too love this composer and I still have to hear most of his oeuvre. I might never get to see this movie in a language I understand and I don't want to miss it so I'll give it a try.
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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:59 pm

    Mozart
    4 hands Rondo Alla Turka played by Polish musicians Los Desperados.



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    Post  mudra on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:07 pm

    metaw3 wrote:

    It's a wonderful experience to discover a composer we like and go through his oeuvre. I too love this composer and I still have to hear most of his oeuvre. I might never get to see this movie in a language I understand and I don't want to miss it so I'll give it a try.

    So true ..We must seize the moments as they come to us and live them fully . In that way we have no regrets.

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    metaw... as a side note ..how do you pronounce this word " oeuvre " in English ? I can only work it out in french ... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  newel on Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:33 pm

    mudra wrote:how do you pronounce this word " oeuvre " in English ? I can only work it out in french ... Rolling Eyes

    Me too. I guess there is no escape from this one. You either pronounce it like the French or you avoid it.

    I found the English subtitles for the movie:
    rapidshare.com Arvo_Part_-_24_preludes_for_a_fugue_ENG.txt

    Here is the final song. It's a Robert Burns' poem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRDtrsuIEk8

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    My Heart's In The Highlands

    My heart's in the Highlands, my heart is not here,
    My heart's in the Highlands a-chasing the deer -
    A-chasing the wild deer, and following the roe;
    My heart's in the Highlands, wherever I go.

    Farewell to the Highlands, farewell to the North
    The birth place of Valour, the country of Worth;
    Wherever I wander, wherever I rove,
    The hills of the Highlands for ever I love.

    Farewell to the mountains high cover'd with snow;
    Farewell to the straths and green valleys below;
    Farewell to the forrests and wild-hanging woods;
    Farwell to the torrents and loud-pouring floods.

    My heart's in the Highlands, my heart is not here,
    My heart's in the Highlands a-chasing the deer
    Chasing the wild deer, and following the roe;
    My heart's in the Highlands, whereever I go.
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    Post  newel on Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:44 pm

    mudra wrote:Mozart
    4 hands Rondo Alla Turka played by Polish musicians Los Desperados.

    It's actually a good performance regardless of the fact that it's played with 4 hands on one guitar, which makes it even better.
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    Post  mudra on Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:54 pm

    metaw3 wrote:
    Me too. I guess there is no escape from this one. You either pronounce it like the French or you avoid it.

    Then the word oeuvre is " Franglais " like the expression " déjà vu " and the Americans or English probably pronounce it as the French.

    I found the English subtitles for the movie:
    rapidshare.com Arvo_Part_-_24_preludes_for_a_fugue_ENG.txt

    Aren't we lucky cheers
    Thank you metaw .You are a treasure.

    I think some of the things he says aren't far from the perception I had of him.

    I love these :

    " I'd say that I had a need to...A need to concentrate
    on each sound,so that every blade of grass would be as important as a flower."



    I once had a chat with the janitor in front of our house.I asked his opinion:
    "How should a composer write his music?"He looked at me."What a question!""I think he has to love each single sound."



    Here is the final song. It's a Robert Burns' poem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRDtrsuIEk8
    My Heart's In The Highlands

    I truly love Pärt's way to express what can hardly be seized .
    I believe his Heart is within Music.


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