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    Re: Banned from the Bible

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:13 pm

    Well said, Arrowwind. I'm really a Peacemaker, rather than a Warmonger, but I do have my limits. Watch and Weep.

    1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#

    2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=-4496740044013049308

    3. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=-93617494053797724

    If you haven't seen this one...please watch it. It is very sad...but very good...and quite fair...I thought. The interviews were very revealing.

    What amazed me is how so many competent and concerned people were completely ignored or actively opposed by the Bush Administration. Was the failure of the Iraq Crusade by design? I hate to say this...but so much misery and bloodshed in history seems to have occurred by cruel design. It's almost as if the peace and happiness of the human family MUST be opposed...and that responsibility and freedom MUST be thwarted. It almost seems as if non-human forces have been at work throughout history...to work against humanity. I tend to think that there is a lot more to human history than the sad tale of an infant race...evolving through level upon level of stupidity and madness. I don't think we are the new kids on the galactic block. I think we are the abused kids. Where's the Galactic CPS when you need them? As usual...this is mostly speculative in nature.

    I've been very paranoid and suspicious lately...as you may have noticed...but there's a shape-shifting Jesuit living in my attic...an 800 pound reptilian on my back...and a ufo (disguised as a black helicopter) circling my house. Please...somebody watch the documentary...and comment. It's really very well done. Here is Dick Cheney in 1994 commenting on Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY Is this crusade all about artifacts, stargates, bloodlines, ancient technology, crashed ufo's, underground bases, skeletal remains, ET's, etc? I don't know...but I thought I'd ask. I suppose oil, drugs, and the MIAC might have something to do with it too! Oh...and spreading democracy...whether they want it or not! I don't mean to make light of a very violent and sad episode in world history. I'm just trying to be open and honest...in a friendly, humorous, and light-hearted (some might say 'light-headed') manner. I may be a Pain in Uranus...but I mean no harm. Is the Iraq Crusade a 'Just War'?



    Consider watching 'The War On Democracy'. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148# It's about the political troubles in South America. I'm seriously thinking of myself as a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, rather than as a Nationalistic American. I respect the politics and religion of the various peoples of the world, and I am trying to identify with everyone, rather than being standoffish or elitist. I'd like to be comfortable anywhere in the solar system. Everyone should be comfortable anywhere in the solar system. My politics and religion are encapsulated in the United States of the Solar System. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.



    Just another reminder to take my threads as a whole, rather than isolating any particular post, especially one of the more sensational posts. Then, take a look at what everyone else is posting and saying on the internet and everywhere. Take a multidisciplinary approach to all of this. I'm not a former big-shot in a D.U.M.B. or anything, so what the heck do I really know? I'd like you to take what I'm posting seriously, without just buying into it. Just consider it, and move on to bigger and better things. This is the beginning of the road, rather than the end. The best is yet to come. Even if we could just get rid of war in the next couple of years, wouldn't that be 90% of the battle? (get it?!)


    What if everyone had the same net-worth? What if education, healthcare, housing, food, and clothing were free? What if tasks in society were based completely on merit? You could be a janitor, banker, astronaut, doctor, pope, president, ceo, representative, or solar system administrator - and everyone would live at the same economic level, even though activities, status, and social circles might vary. I believe in freedom - but not divorced from responsibility. Is fighting for more and more money really responsible? Shouldn't we seek to uplift EVERYONE??? I want to do the right thing. I want to do that which is in EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. If only I could practice what I preach. But would all of the above be considered socialism or communism? There would continue to be freedom and competition, but with massive doses of responsibility. Do you see my point?

    I realize that I only know a small portion of what's really going on, but I get the strong impression that this is really crunch-time, and that we really need to think fast, and get something going around here. I used to think that God was going to solve everything, but now I think that this might be a final solution to a failed experiment in responsible freedom and human physicality. I have a horrible sense of dread. I fear that things might've swung too far off the center of the wheel, and that the unbalance indicator failed to function properly. We might be past the point of no return. I sense evil at the highest and lowest levels, but I also sense irresponsibility throughout the world population. I continue to experience profound physical, mental, and spiritual difficulties. I feel like I'm in a graveyard-spiral, and that the proximity-avionics are ordering me to 'PULL UP!!' I'm trying, but now I seem to be in a flat-spin, and I'd probably eject if I had an ejection-seat, but I don't. There really seems to be no safety-net. All of the options seem to be bad presently. My strategy is to just keep doing what I'm doing, and hope that it helps others to do their jobs properly. My mind is not made-up, so please confuse me with the facts. I will continue to be incurably-optimistic and unyieldingly-despairing. I believe that both qualities (if one can call them such) are necessary to properly deal with the predicament we find ourselves in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FauWEy6t1PY

    I am not necessarily at war with the Queen of Heaven and God of This World in a conceptual sense, as blasphemous as that sounds. I think they are probably a mixture of good and evil, strengths and weaknesses. I am simply trying to conceptualize idealistic religious and political constructs on a solar system scale. This will continue to be a mixture of fact and fiction, idealism and pragmatism. My posts will continue to resemble low-budget science fiction. Again, this is all about changing myself, and helping you to think. It is not a Prescription for Paradise. I'm the smart@$$ at the back of the room. Even if I were the leader of the pack, I would still remain seated at the back of the room, and facilitate excellence in others. I would attempt to remain on-top of things, but I would not micromanage. Sometimes, if people know that you know, you don't have to say a damn thing, you know?

    No one else seems to be posting. Maybe they're all hiding in their Deep Underground Military Bases! Or perhaps the Rapture has occurred, and I've been left behind! Anyway, has anyone read or re-read 'Megatrends' or 'Future Shock' lately, to see how things have played-out in relation to the forecasts and projections? Should I be reading Daniel and the Revelation in the Holy Bible, for the real-deal about the future? Should I try to change the future, or is it pretty-much already determined? Have the gods and goddesses made up their minds what they're going to do with us, or to us? Or, has the Creator God of the Universe decided what to do with the gods and goddesses - and with us? Is the ball in our court, or not? I guess I'm seeking a productive partnership of the Human and the Divine, whatever that really means. Where does the BS stop, and the truth begin? Which Heins 57 varieties of religion and philosophy do we embrace? How shall we then live? Should we just eat, drink, and be merry, as we prepare to die? Should I rent a Ferrari, and do my version of 'On the Beach'?

    THE END IS NEAR! SAVE YOUR NUTS!


    "Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Pride and Self-Exaltation > Absolute Power > Corruption and Insanity > Anger and Jealousy > Rebellion and Violence > Glorious Victory > Changing of the Guard > Any Questions?"

    You know, what really bothers me is how heartless and cruel we have been to each other for thousands of years. In a sense, I could care less about politics, religion, race, socioeconomics, etc, etc, etc, EXCEPT as they pertain to how we treat each other. I keep getting the sinking feeling that no matter how we set things up, the same reincarnational b@$tards are going to keep screwing things up. I'm really serious about the incarceration, restitution, and reeducation thing. I am not a capital punishment kind of guy. However, if a highly compelling case were made to me regarding someone being too dangerous to save - who knows what I might decide? I just don't think that violence is a solution for violence. Violence Breeds Violence. I'd like to stop ALL violence. I know I live in a dream world, but I like my little dream world. Everyone is so nice there...
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    Re: Banned from the Bible

    Post  Arrowwind on Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:13 pm

    I think it will still be some time before we can have any kind of clear view of why the US (Bush) did what he did in Iraq. Was it sheer stupidity? I think not and Cheney in 94 clearly stated what understanding of what would happen that they did have. They fully knew what they were doing. And certainly Bremmer was their man to set all things wrong after the invasion. Who did he spend his 10 days with before going to Iraq? Bush, Rumsfeld and other higher ups... it was their doing. Bremmer was just a front man to do the dirty work.

    This mess was created by people who believe in war pertrated upon a nation who has lived by the motto of war. The American people were douped into compliance with lies and likely a false flag event upon our people. Not only was this war created by those who beleive in war but in total social decay to usurp power and dominion and total caos upon a people.

    I knew full well that Bush jr intended to enter Iraq when he was running for president.. yet I had no idea of course just how he would pull it off... there were things he said as governor in Texas years before hand... I lived in Texas and I watched him as closely as I could at the time.

    Iraq will be in turmoil for many years to come and likey another despot will come to control the region again... this time a religious one, most likely... but as despots go one is really no better than another.

    The nation (TPTB) now itches to find a way into Iran to destroy that nation. We may see it yet... although I had been thinking that it would have happened by now.

    As long as humanity believes that war it the answer it will be our answer and we will never find a way out of it. As long as the good people of the world accept war from their leaders there will be war.

    Some day people will loose the fear that they now have to march on Washington, in mass, pertpetually, until we have true freedom and peace and end our collective war mongering ways. We must train our youth to detest war and educte them on the priciples of peace.

    Right now we have a false sense of national pride amongst our youth and they are not informed, educated nor have they taken any responsibility for full knowledge of what has transpired.... and then on top of that our nation lures them with money and a college education... so in essence we have an army of paid mercenaries.. most of those young people would not be there if not for the promised paycheck... and this is most pathetic... the willingness to do all for their country regardless of the morality of it for a paycheck... hence they will never look and examine the morality question, for if they did most could not do what they do.... its the ostrich syndrome. once your head is stuck in the sand its almost impossible to pull it out




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    Re: Banned from the Bible

    Post  Arrowwind on Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:19 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:What if everyone had the same net-worth? What if education, healthcare, housing, food, and clothing were free? What if tasks in society were based completely on merit? You could be a janitor, banker, astronaut, doctor, pope, president, ceo, representative, or solar system administrator - and everyone would live at the same economic level, even though activities, status, and social circles might vary.

    this reminds me that the brother of my brother in law is now retired. He was a janitor for the California School system. His retirement pension paycheck is over 60,000 a year, more than he made on the job... never mind what he gets in social security to boot. Things are totally crazy.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:51 pm

    Thank-you Arrowwind. Have you read 'Family of Secrets' by Russ Baker? It's an expose of the Bush goings on, going back to Prescott. I keep getting the feeling that Earth is ruled from Underground Bases on Earth, and Secret Bases on the Moon, and that the people we see on the evening news are just front men and errand boys. In a way, the secret world seems sort of cool, but I fear that it is unimaginably corrupt and cruel. Just more speculation...
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    Post  Arrowwind on Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:49 am

    Regardless of what secret worlds there may be, what unjustice and evil may preside, in my heart I know that my only task of worth here in this world is to keep on developing my capacity for love.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:41 pm

    Arrowwind wrote:Regardless of what secret worlds there may be, what unjustice and evil may preside, in my heart I know that my only task of worth here in this world is to keep on developing my capacity for love.
    Love is central, but I worry about what happens when Naive Love meets Sinister Hate. I guess this is why I am focusing upon Responsibility and Response-Ability as a better modality for doing battle with the Bad Guys and Gals. Love can become watered-down passive-submission, which will not do proper battle with evil. I guess this is why I keep thinking about a Vatican-Based Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System as being a possible replacement for both the Old and New World Orders, which seem to be corrupt Theocracies (Vatican?) and Technocracies (Nazi?), and possibly of other than human origin and nature (Reptilian?), and ultimately hostile toward the human race (because of ancient star wars?).
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    Post  Arrowwind on Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:54 pm

    Me thinks you worry too much. Very Happy
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:55 pm

    Arrowwind wrote:Me thinks you worry too much. Very Happy
    It's a nasty job, but somebody's gotta do it. Judging from the state of the world, going back thousands of years, very few seem to have worried about much more than their own sorry @$$e$. "We humbly beseech thee, Lord God, to bless us four, but no more. Amen."
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:02 am

    This is an amazing interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwKKsvtdag&feature=player_embedded All roads really do lead to Rome, and I continue to think that everything we discuss should be viewed from the Roman context. I continue to imagine myself as being a well-connected Renegade French Jesuit Organist. I continue to love the artistic aspects of Rome, but the history, theology, and politics are horrible, and I'm sure that most upper-level and well-informed Roman Catholics know this, but they have a Dragon by the Tail, and they are probably terrified of what might happen if they let go. As the general public finds out about all of this, things could get very, very nasty. I'm interested in this area of research, but it scares the hell out of me. I'm trying to be open and fair in all of this, and I'm trying to look at both the positive and negatives in all of this. All roads lead to Rome, but where did all of these roads originate?

    My present working assumption is that the solar system probably contains thousands of unconventional craft, including asteroid and moon spacecraft, which might be friendly or unfriendly toward the human race. I get the feeling that this solar system is like the wild, wild west -- and that we might be facing a showdown at the ok corral. I certainly do not desire peace at any price, nor do I desire to end-up as space-dust. What would Anna Hayes say? I'd still like to hang-out on Phobos for a while, regardless of whether it is populated by friend or foe. But I would have to have a solid guarantee that I wouldn't be harmed or kidnapped. I still like the idea of a Theocratically-Implemented, Responsibility-Based, United States of the Solar System -- with the governmental personnel mostly located within the University of Solar System Studies and Governance campuses throughout the solar system. I've spoken of using a deconsecrated cathedral as the headquarters of a New Solar System, so just for the fun of it, today I'm thinking of either the Crystal Cathedral or St. Mary's Cathedral (or both!!) as being the headquarters, with the University of California system serving as the core of the University of Solar System Studies and Governance system. Again, this is just for the conceptual heck of it. This is a test. This is only a test. And yes, I realize that I am insane, but it's more fun that way! The UC system has solid ties to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and to the Los Alamos National Laboratory. I don't wish to reinvent the wheel. I just wish to have 10,000 PhD's with clipboards and safety-goggles, watching it rotate... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:44 pm

    Archaeologists say Bible, Quran & Torah are Egyptian myth

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:43 pm

    Thank-you TRANCOSO. I'm currently considering the possibility of Reincarnating Archangels being at the center of the historical and mythological madness. Where the myth ends and the truth begins is open to debate in sort of a royal infowar. I will continue to play my little game of Solar System Science Fiction, wherein I try to seek the truth intuitively and academically. I probably couldn't get a PhD with this approach, but I find it entertaining and enlightening. What if all of the myths were based upon a historical truth? I am currently very interested in a combination of Biblical Egyptology, Teutonic Zionism, and Solar System Governance. I don't know very much about any of this, but I am pressing forward into the intellectual minefield and quicksand -- walking tall and marching proudly -- seemingly without a care in the world. The imagination is a wonderful thing...
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    Post  magamud on Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:40 pm

    Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,

    and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all.

    Mark 10:43
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:33 pm

    How about Truth-Seeking and Doing the Right Thing -- regardless of Rewards or Punishments?? I presently don't know if I'm Good or Evil -- Reincarnationally or Presently.
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    Post  Jenetta on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:11 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUPoLMW6dNM

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:46 pm

    Perhaps if we removed all of the lies and delusions -- we might not have much left -- but I still think there is a spiritual and divine reality behind the mythologies and theologies. I've lately been tending to work outward from central principles and concepts -- and I continue to think that there is much to be gained from the right kind of political and theological science-fiction. This might be the best we can do -- until the veil is lifted. We truly see through a glass darkly.
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    Post  magamud on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:19 am

    What goodness God has put here has been used for treachery. So what evil can be produced from the Son of God?

    The Word is alive and your memory is intact. It will have to be connected by faith though, since Evil has used the Sciences to give us proof. The Devil has stolen our senses.

    The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
    Hebrews 1:3

    "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
    "Which ones?" the man inquired. Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony,
    honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"

    Matthew 19:17

    Go out and do a good deed today.

    God bless....
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    Post  magamud on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:53 pm

    109. Jesus said, "The (Father's) kingdom is like a person who had a treasure hidden in his field but did not know it. And [when] he died he left it to his [son]. The son [did] not know about it either. He took over the field and sold it. The buyer went plowing, [discovered] the treasure, and began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    I've mentioned several Bible-Study Plans -- and here is a slight variation on that theme.

    1. Deuteronomy
    2. Psalms
    3. Proverbs
    4. Matthew
    5. John
    6. Hebrews

    Three Old Testament Books -- and Three New Testament Books -- which are quite sermon and concept oriented. I continue to think that reading Key Books of the Bible -- straight through -- is a proper research modality. I call it the 'Proof-Book Method' -- as opposed to the 'Proof-Text Method'. Try using Grammatical-Historical Hermeneutics -- being careful to exegete -- rather than simply homilitically-applying passages. Just a thought.
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    Post  magamud on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:42 am

    "The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.

    John 3:31
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    Post  magamud on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:41 am

    Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.

    Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

    If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

    Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

    Romans 12:16
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    Post  magamud on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:48 am

    The Parable of the Lost Sheep

    1Now the tax collectors and “sinners” were all gathering around to hear him. 2But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

    3Then Jesus told them this parable: 4“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

    The Parable of the Shrewd Manager

    1Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man whose manager was accused of wasting his possessions. 2So he called him in and asked him, ‘What is this I hear about you? Give an account of your management, because you cannot be manager any longer.’

    3“The manager said to himself, ‘What shall I do now? My master is taking away my job. I’m not strong enough to dig, and I’m ashamed to beg— 4I know what I’ll do so that, when I lose my job here, people will welcome me into their houses.’

    5“So he called in each one of his master’s debtors. He asked the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’

    6“‘Eight hundred gallonsa of olive oil,’ he replied.

    “The manager told him, ‘Take your bill, sit down quickly, and make it four hundred.’

    7“Then he asked the second, ‘And how much do you owe?’

    “‘A thousand bushelsb of wheat,’ he replied.

    “He told him, ‘Take your bill and make it eight hundred.’

    8“The master commended the dishonest manager because he had acted shrewdly. For the people of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own kind than are the people of the light. 9I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings.

    10“Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much. 11So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? 12And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else’s property, who will give you property of your own?

    13“No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”

    14The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:48 am

    Thank-you for posting the Words Attributed to Jesus. Consider reading Deuteronomy and Matthew -- side by side -- with particular attention given to the Law of God -- and to the Commandments of God. Also, what religious services or ceremonies are prescribed in the Old and New Testaments?? Does the New Testament tell us to attend church on a particular day. Does the New Testament tell us to attend church?? What is the One True Church in the world today??
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    Post  magamud on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:02 am

    Sure no problem Ortho.
    I will continue to use this thread with your permission to make the way straight for the coming of the lord.

    Sci Fi, appearances of UFOs, and our secret govt workings are blessings to understand the Alien dynamics, drama and politics of this strata of consciousness. This is the same for all our enlightened teaching and teachers. Don Juan and Buddha type of stuff. I am sure there is much more. Its a Jaccobs ladder.

    So you see we have learned our earthly existence, moved into UFO and enlightened experience and now we are learning about the One existence that rules them all.

    Also, what religious services or ceremonies are prescribed in the Old and New Testaments?
    Services were prescribed to help direct man to think on God. Each act should have god in thought so, ceremonies were used to hold this in place. This is the meaning of the Sabbath.

    What is the One True Church in the world today??
    The one who thinks on the one true God and prepares our people for its coming.

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    Re: Banned from the Bible

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:56 am

    The Old Testament Services seem brutal, bloody, and very harsh. There don't seem to be New Testament Services. I have been taking a closer look at Ceremonial Anglicanism (with a Latin Mass twist) because of the widespread use and centuries of tradition -- but not because this approach is particularly biblical. Should the Sabbath be observed by all Jews and Christians -- from Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday?? Are there any Jews or Christians who observe the Torah in every detail?? Religion and Politics seem to be VERY dishonest IMHO.
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    Re: Banned from the Bible

    Post  magamud on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:01 pm

    "So the last will be first, and the first will be last."

    Matthew 20:16



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gytfoVu24g

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