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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  THEeXchanger on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:21 pm

    i am going to go to this thread: http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id213.html
    AND, instead of looking at who said what/or why
    i am simply going to try to mine out = the truth
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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:10 pm

    Thank-you for the passionate critique, Susan. This thread is really sort of a diary -- so it is rather personal -- and rather private -- because very few individuals (human and otherwise) actually read it. I mostly point to the work of others -- and add some of my thoughts to their insights. I'm constantly saying "I Don't Know" -- and not as a becoming-humility -- I truly do NOT know. This thread is really written in plain English -- but as I keep pointing-out -- I am presenting a personality which is NOT me. I'm NOT like this in real-life at all. This thread is Political and Theological Science-Fiction. It's sort of my attempt to think the Queen of Heaven's thoughts after her -- in the context of Gizeh-Intelligence -- and that's the truth. I guess I'm trying to be the "Michael" character in a Gabriel v Lucifer v Michael debate in an Underground Palace, Temple, or Base. I have NO idea what I'm doing. I just thought this sort of thing should be given some attention -- but I wish every day that I had never started this passive quest. I think I might've made myself the target of some of the Big-Guns in the solar system -- or even beyond. I think I was in BIG trouble before I started this online madness -- but now I think I'm REALLY screwed. I just keep hoping that someone with more brains and emotional-stability than I have -- can use my tripe as a launching-pad for some really beneficial research as they search for a useable-future. Anyway, I think that now I shall spend some quality time reading the Thuban Q&A from the Old Project Avalon site. That thread was quite simple and easy for even me to understand. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18900 But first, I think I'll watch Matt a few times!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwe-pA6TaZk BTW -- over the past several years -- I have asked literally hundreds (or even thousands) of questions -- and probably 2% of them have been answered. Often, the comments are hostile and/or off-topic -- but I appreciate them just the same. I sometimes think that I'm really trying to connect with those in the City-States, the United Nations, the Underground Bases, and the Darkside of the Moon -- and I am being VERY serious when I say this. This might help to explain why I try to use BIG words.



    The Powers That Be Are You and Me. The We That We See is the We That We'll Be. Our Planet is How We Plan It. We Shall Overcome Someday Soon. We Shall Turn This Purgatory Into a Paradise. Those Who Are Not Here to Help Should Exit This Solar System Immediately. Responsible Freedom Fighters Unite. The Solar System Exorcism Should Be Continuous and Relentless. Visualize a Perfected Humanity Living in a Perfected Solar System. Defectors From All Factions Are Welcome in the United States of the Solar System. A Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System Will Be Eden Restored. This Present Darkness Will Become Brighter Than the Noonday Sunshine. There's Still Time to Change the Road You're On. The Truth is Setting Us Free. We Are the Solar System. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. Solar System Without End. The Kingdom of God is a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System Party. "Man has been trained to believe that which he is told - whether it is truth or a lie, to the point now that man is simply a victim of the lies. May light come forth that you may recover your pathway to truth." "Only at the close of the present major cycle will the whole world join together in the sweetest hymn ever sung upon Earth: a divine anthem of international co-operation, global goodwill, and united spiritual purpose." Something is a Brewing. Hmmmmmmm.

    sunny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY sunny



    Perhaps no matter how Solar System Governance is set up - there will always be huge problems and major dissatisfaction. It just seems to me that we should be honest regarding our predicament - and regarding our opportunities. If every concept and proposal contained in this thread were implemented - things would probably remain highly problematic. I'd like to think that things would improve significantly - but 'improve' is a relative term. I guess I like the idea of Kaizen - or continual improvement. Things can always be improved upon. Again - I would like to retain the best which history has to offer - and discard the worst. My talk of a Solar System Exorcism is really not vengeful or hateful in nature. I simply wish to disempower those who are screwing things up at the deepest, lowest, and highest levels. I like the idea of prosecution, incarceration, restitution, and reeducation - rather than cruel, unusual, or capital punishments. There is so much I don't know about the history of governance, religion, theocracy, technology, atrocity, warfare, races, genetic hybridization, various conflicts, etc, etc, etc. I continue to fly blind. I'm learning - little by little - but I am certainly not the answer. I become more and more disgusted with myself - day after day. I am not attempting to be self-righteous in this thread. I am really trying to get up to speed with the current Powers That Be. Despite the corruption, infiltration, subversion, blackmail, etc, etc - the individuals who presently run this solar system are undoubtedly highly intelligent - even though this often does not seem to be the case. If I were in their shoes - things might be even worse!! I have done a lot of speculating about Lucifer, and various Gods and Goddesses. I think this is an important part of the puzzle - but I don't really know what the hell has really been going on. However, I do think this is an area which should be exhaustively studied. I think I have gotten a lot closer to the truth over the last couple of years - but I think I'm just scratching the surface. I keep thinking that Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, et al - need to have less to say - and that the people of the world need to have more to say - regarding solar system governance. Rule by secrecy, deception, coercion, terrorism, warfare, intrigue, corruption, etc, etc. - seems highly, highly problematic to me. But again - everyone and everything is undoubtedly a mixture of good and evil. None is righteous. No - not one. I've tried to stick to the facts and issues - rather than making any of this personal. But I have been somewhat irreverent, rude, and even sarcastic at times. I appologize to anyone whom I may have hurt in doing so. I really mean no harm. I just wanted to look at things in a way that no one else seemed to be - in the hope that I would learn something new - and that others might benefit from my mental masturbation. I have climbed higher - and sunk lower. So far - it all seems to be a wash. Perhaps the best we can do is to find more sane ways to manage the insanity.

    Solar System Governance is Quite the Hornet's Nest. Researchers and Reformers Beware...
    So...what does it take to be taken seriously? Serious money? Business as usual? Politics as usual? Should I learn to throw my weight around - instead of attempting to speak softly - with reason and logic? Will the corrupt continue to rule the stupid? Is pain and suffering the cost of doing business in the universe? What is one to do - when attempting to free men from tyrannical rule - no one listens? Is it time to take off the gloves? Is it time to use the ways of the world to do the work of God? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0YrXjeRSoE&feature=related Someone just gave me a copy of 'The Art of War' by Sun Tzu. Perhaps I should read it...
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    I never know what to think of photographs, these days, with PhotoShop, and such. I don't see why this solar system can't be a paradise. But there seems to be:

    1. An Annunaki Faction which wishes to exterminate the Human Race.
    2. An Annunaki Faction which has been exploiting the Human Race - while fighting with the other Annunaki faction - to see who gets to be the Masters of the Universe.
    3. A Responsible Human Faction - who seems to have been driven off-world thousands of years ago.
    4. An Ignorant and Irresponsible Human Faction - who seems to be living on this Prison Planet called Earth.

    Consider the possibility of: (Extraterrestrial Humans + Extraterrestrial Hybrids) vs (Terrestrial Humans + Terrestrial Hybrids)

    Unfortunately, I get the impression that everyone hates the Terrestrial Humans (Us). As I keep posting on this thread - I keep feeling that I am fighting for the survival of the best aspects of the Human Race - or simply for survival. Period. What was the Original Sin? What is the solution for the Original Sin and Karmic Debt - other than Slavery and Death???

    Did Regressive Interdimensional Reptilians deceive the Human Race (by promising them freedom and enlightenment?) into creating a Genetic Hybridization Program to give the Regressive Interdimensional Reptilians Hybrid Bodies? Who bears ultimate responsibility for what seems to be a Hybridization Program Gone Bad? Are the two Annunaki Factions under the direction of even more powerful beings? Check this out, and tell me what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFzH3goUsc&NR=1 One more thing. What is the relationship between Jesus and Lucifer? Just wondering. Namaste.


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    Who would be the winners and the losers in a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System? I'd like to think that everyone would be a winner over the long haul. There might seem to be a stratification of winners and losers in the short term - but I think things would even out - long term. All of the ancient Star Wars, Masters of the Universe, Hybridization, and Technology issues would obviously have to be resolved. They could not just be swept under the rug - so to speak. How might all of this be peacefully resolved - without the erruption of brand-new Star Wars? The forces and hatred in this universe might be deeper and more powerful than we can possibly imagine. I intend to pursue a peaceful solution by promoting the spirit and letter of this thread. I am presently reading 'The Art of War' by Sun Tzu. I intend to win without fighting. I will attempt to be a Peaceful Intellectual General. The gloves are coming off - and I will be much more aggressive in the promotion of Responsible Freedom. The regressives won't know what hit them. It will be over before it starts. In fact - it might already be a fait accompli or a cou de gras or a never mind...Q.E.D.


    Jesus is Coming Soon...Or Perhaps He Never Left.
    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyIxSC5QZ-E&feature=related
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TjqzU--vs


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:33 pm

    Thanks for publicizing your diary Ortho. I dont know why people get offended with your questions or curiosities. You say you dont know and in my book that is the first step in understanding yourself and a place to work with others. Your speech speaks to the common man, of God given inalienable rights, freedom and the oppression of Tyranny that is running rampant in our system. Have most do gooders put the cart before the horse? I think of it as Triage Tyranny. If one cant understand the precepts of Liberty, tyranny will prevail no matter how philanthropic your endeavor is. Why cant people come together?
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:52 pm

    Thank-you magamud. I think my approach ends-up making everyone mad. I know that I'm venturing into some very sensitive areas in a somewhat irreverent manner. I'm probably trying to break the ice -- but I doubt this is appreciated. But really, I think I'm a lot more sensitive and fair than most people (or other than people). I am not seeking a wider audience -- other than wishing that at some appropriate point that some of the ideas expressed in this thread MIGHT be used in some sort of science-fiction series. That's probably too arrogant or high-minded -- but I still think it would be sort of cool. Unfortunately, I don't have the insiders-perspective to know what might work or might not work. I'm really trying to help make things better -- regardless of whether it seems like it or not. Right now, I'm imagining living and working in a 600 square-foot office-apartment under the U.S. Air-Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colorado -- mostly doing what I'm doing right now -- but with more resources -- and with more of an insiders-perspective. But really, I am very worried about who is REALLY in charge of the Shadowy-Underworld. I would wish to make sure that I was working for the right boss -- and that I was NOT selling my soul to you-know-who. BTW -- A Regime-Change might NOT solve the solar-system's problems. It MIGHT even make things worse. Operating on an inoperable brain-tumor might be a bad idea -- if you know what I mean. Beware of Poison-Pills, Scorched-Earth Policies, and Killer-Asteroids Piloted by Devil-Babies!!!

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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:52 pm

    Ya asteroids are bad enough. You dont need to throw in Devil Babies. Boy talk about drama queens...

    That Thuban thread is a blast from the past. It would be interesting to have Abraxas back here on this thread to continue the contrast of ideas. Abraxas has fantastic insight like Ortho. Great sight on human behavior and a world view.
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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:59 pm

    There are aspects of the abraxasinas and Thuban thing that I really appreciate -- yet I still have a very difficult time getting into it, and understanding it. I've frankly tried to use some of their style and methodology in this thread. I have even reposted large portions of Thuban material on this thread. This thread is NOT all about me -- despite my staged attitude. I'm trying very hard to be mostly on everyone's side -- even though I know this is impossible. I'd really like to somehow end this thread. I keep trying to ease the pain by posting proposed solutions -- yet this never helps. It just seems to make things worse. Here are some videos which might be helpful to someone:

    1. Pope John Paul II http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=slWTCrSnbmo
    2. The Passion of the Christ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNPoxmwLC1c
    3. Lewis Walton: The Trial of Jesus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9D46yW4ym0
    3. Paul the Apostle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUv_GE64uh0
    4. Out of the Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPCKIL7oVw
    5. Cleopatra (1999) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrs6nNai-jA

    This should keep some of us out of trouble for a while!! Sometimes I wonder if I were an insider is a previous life -- and went insane because of what I saw and heard?! That wouldn't surprise me at all. I also wonder if I might've been a bad@ss of some note who grew a conscience and became a liability because of being 'too good'?! Perhaps there are some very good reasons why I'm on the outside -- looking in -- or at least trying to look in. The insiders might not want me to start another War in Heaven!! I still think that the Archangelic and Constitutional focus of this thread is appropriate and necessary -- but it frankly scares the hell out of me when I think of the implications and ramifications...


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:42 pm

    Now THAT'S Funny!!! Thank-you Susan!!! Regarding our recent conversation, I am attempting to model a particular perspective and approach in this thread -- so it is more exclusive, harsh, and close-minded than I am in real-life -- as I "boldly go where no fool has gone before". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbUpM7ZfsxA Again, this is more about creating a frame of mind and a frame of reference -- as a launching-pad for finding the Real-Answers. This is only the beginning. Others are undoubtedly doing the real solar system governance heavy-lifting. I still think it would be cool to live and work under the U.S. Air-Force Academy -- as a composite of the Stargate SG-1 Team, a USAFA Cadet, and Palmer Joss. You know -- as sort of an Ecumenical Insider-Chaplain -- who would dress and act like a Cadet -- living and working in a 600 square-foot apartment-office -- year after year -- in perpetuity. Do you see my point?? Would Colorado Springs be a reasonable location for the Headquarters of the United States of the Solar System?? It would be vitally-important to have EVERYONE in the solar-system properly represented -- which is why I thought 10,000 USSS Representatives might be required and desired. The King and Queen Co-President Concept is intended to ensure Equal Male and Female Royal-Model Representation and Leadership. No one should be cut-out, cut-off, or cut-loose. I mean NO favoritism with my use of locations and institutions (which I am somewhat familiar with) for illustrative purposes. I simply don't want us to blow each-other to heaven or hell. I have high-hopes for Earth and Humanity -- regardless of our nasty and violent history -- and regardless of prophecy and fate. Consider "Conditional-Prophecy" very carefully. Again, I support Interracial, International, Interplanetary, Intergalactic Cooperation -- and even War-Games -- BUT I HATE WAR. WAR IS A SIN. One More Thing. How did you locate your new avatar, magamud?? I saw that image as I was doing an image search a couple of hours ago -- and I thought it was really cool -- and then I noticed that you had just selected it as your new avatar. Interesting.

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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:42 am

    THEeXchanger wrote:what would blavatsky say
    yeah, what would blavatsky say...
    she did get her best answers from her main spirit guide Wink

    Perhaps Helena got her best answers from you! Just a crazy thought!
    THEeXchanger wrote:what if the parables just are NOT things people get very easy ?

    This is a huge problem in philosophy and religion -- people are too busy or impatient to really research and reflect. One almost needs to be a Religious Studies professor to properly study the parables.

    - what if you created a relation
    - and, then sync'd that to proven mathematical / relation formulas
    and, people understood it
    - might that be easier to get ?

    I think this would be even more problematic for people. I'm sure there is a mathematical component to scripture -- especially in apocalyptic literature -- but I doubt that there are many people who bother with such things -- even though they probably should.

    THEeXchanger wrote:being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top
    so, that means 7.2 billion people = 3,600,000.000 less than average,
    and, 3,600,000,000 better than average - so, i think this world needs something better than 'a just average' solution.

    I was referring to the average-person -- not to average-solutions.

    you seem stuck in a lot of 'i'...'i'...'i'
    -instead of looking at solutions of 'we'

    This reminds me of a post someone made on the old Project Avalon site -- which was critical of me -- and they used the same "I"..."I"..."I" -- but I don't think it was you -- unless you had more than one screen-name. Sometimes I wonder if a lot of you are all one. I use "I" a lot because I get bored when I'm not talking about myself!! Just kidding!! This thread is a diary and an expression of the way I feel about things -- with an emphasis on the experiential and the intuitive. But really, you need to be fair here -- most of the material in my threads are the work of others.

    you write in a lot of big words
    that might mean something to 1% of the population
    yet, i think you want to appeal to 99% of the people

    Most of what I post is really straightforward -- but I occasionally get sophisticated, technical, and academic. I truly think that the very few humans (and other than humans) who regularly view this thread use big words a lot. These words must've been included in the dictionary for a reason.

    i am NO dummy,
    but, i don't know what
    liturgically-conservative
    doctrinally-liberal
    pluralism and infinite-diversity
    even are ???

    Basically -- I am thinking in terms of the Latin Mass combined with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer and Sacred Classical Music -- as being Liturgically Conservative and Ecumenically Innovative. Sorry for more big words. Then, I mostly leave it up to people to arrive at their own theological and philosophical understandings -- without cramming a certain brand of religion down their throats, or burning anyone at the stake. It's basically keeping one thing constant -- while allowing for a wide variety of understandings. I would like to reunite Protestantism and Catholicism with a Minimalist-Traditionalist approach -- but this scares me to the core of my being.

    most of this world,
    or, about 80% of the people
    actually earn less than $5.00 per day
    and, don't live the world you and, i are a part of

    This is why I want a proper Solar System Government -- which properly represents everyone.

    what is the division of religions?
    there are many of them
    - the catholic church just stated they have 1.2 billion members ?
    - the hindi, buddhist etc., must have about 3 billion followers
    - the muslims are growing fast
    - some say the athesists, new age, gnostics, wiccan/pagan/neo-pagan, native american
    just might hold 1/3 of the worlds population - and, could actually swing the religious world
    in ways, that have yet to be seen

    I'd like to unite as many religions as possible -- without forcing anyone to think or do anything.

    ironically, we at a point, that is NOT unlike the times of francis of assisi
    - which means, that anyone doesn't align with the catholic church
    like the cathars, the templars, etc., NEED to be slaughtered
    - its a real scary thought since many souls on earth right now, have lived through this many, many times before
    and, by the looks of things, history is going to repeat itself.

    I agree. I keep telling people to read The Great Controversy and The Gods of Eden. There seems to be a faction of the Gods which is against humanity as we know it -- and perhaps for some legitimate reasons -- but I think we need to move-on and make the human-race the best that it can possibly be -- while learning from the harsh lessons of the past and present. This experiment in physicality and freedom should NOT be flushed down some black-hole.

    if you are going to offer evolutionary-change where is your roadmap ??? you must have one, because you don't seem very interested in looking at anyone else ideas or plans ~ you kind of just fluff off anyone with any ideas and, one of the first things i learned was, that 'good work' requires 'many people' and, it involves 'support circles' where there are 12 different positions, you need to learn to play equally well.

    I don't have a roadmap. I'm making this up as I go insane. Every situation is different. I simply think everyone should focus on Responsibility -- even though I am highly irresponsible.

    you say, you have HUGE problems with the eternal-loss or eternal-punishment of even one soul...I am NOT where you come up with that idea, i do NOT see where i mentioned that ?

    I didn't imply that you suggested that -- but I find it curious that you reacted somewhat defensively. A lot of religions teach this sort of harsh-justice.

    however, i do have a problem with incarceration, and, you say, you do NOT. did you KNOW prison is one of america's biggest businesses because there are currently more native american, black, hispanic, asian & white people in jail, then were ever killed or were slaves - jail is the 'new' legal slave business personally, i do have a problem with that esp since (one in about 120 people are in jail) the people in jail, have the jobs people who are NOT in jail deserve those jobs & the other jobs, are shipped to asia & sadly most manufacturing jobs, do NOT exist anymore the asians come to america to go to school, and, then, they go home - and, export themselves a job that belongs to a north american or, you get arrested for a crime
    so, you can go to school for free that isn't right either

    I believe in a proper system of rewards and punishments. Proper law and ethics should be applied to the solar system -- with reasonable rewards and punishments -- which might include jail or prison, comined with community service, and some sort of study, which might prevent the prisoner from returning to jail or prison.

    i find it rather ironic, that you say, you are distressed, a genius, burned-out and, you reject others ?

    I evaluate others -- and I give credit where credit is due -- and I reject what doesn't make sense.-

    surprisingly, many proofs are starting to surface that a lot people were NOT legends, but were 'real' accounts of 'real' people
    and, if something is myth-than its archetype, and, there is a lot to learn about archetypes.

    To me, history is always suspect -- as the victors write the history books. The truth is not always found in a book. The Quest of the Historical Jesus by Albert Schweitzer is an example of a scholarly work which casts doubt upon traditional views concerning Jesus Christ. I have my own theories.

    we need to deal in 'real' truth ironically, we live in a world were 'real' truth is rejected, ignored, ridiculed, etc.,
    almost as if, most people do NOT want any kind of real answers -so, sadly they are given away for free, which in this world, has little or NO value to the people who are working hard to get your money, through new age b.s. scams - some of those people who died; or almost died in sedona, az - paid up to $10,000 to be at that event with the illegal sweat lodge yet, they all say they want love, and, the real language of love is relations...so, that is going to require a little bit of mathematics that workds.

    Giving people what they want -- and telling them what they wish to hear seems to work wonders regarding maximizing fame, fortune, power, and pleasure. The truth is SO overrated.

    i'll come back; and; add a little more later i'm not an eloquent writer like you, but do NOT confuse that, for a lack of 'real' knowledge just because someone can write in big long words doesn't mean they are a genius and, there are quite a few people who can score in every category in the 99th percentile and, fail only in the english written word category

    I freely admit that I'm a pseudointellectual completely-ignorant fool -- but I try to write well. All I'm saying is that I'm a shelluva guy -- and that if I weren't exhausted and despondant all of the time -- I'd be a helluva lot smarter and much more successful.

    anyway - those are a few of my own thoughts more a little later
    THEeXchanger wrote:i am going to go to this thread: http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id213.html AND, instead of looking at who said what/or why i am simply going to try to mine out = the truth

    Susan, a couple of years ago I think I encouraged you to summarize your research and insights in the form of a book. Have you written any books?? If not, you should. I promise to buy a copy of every book you've written -- as long as the total doesn't exceed a dozen! I think I read most of your posts -- and I actually thought so much of them that I started a thread right here in the Mists based on one of your threads from the old Avalon -- but you put a stop to that -- and I don't remember why exactly. I think I understood most of your posts, and a lot of my posts reflect what I learned from yours. I am both for and against humanity. I am in sort of a non-productive vegetative-state as I try to face reality. My house and finances are a mess -- and I exist in a living-hell. But still, I seem to make very little progress with figuring things out. I have no teeth -- no brains -- and several other crosses to bear. So, what about the billions of people who don't know or care -- and don't even know that they don't know or care?? Do I really think they're going to "get-it" when the shi+ hits the fan??? I have tried to use the subject of "Solar System Governance" to gain a clearer insight into the way things really are -- but the results have been mixed. I have nothing to show for this -- other than a few internet threads -- and a shattered life. I try to keep-up with everyone's posts on this web-site -- but I often have a difficult time keeping-up with my own posting, as I seek to reinvent myself. I am truly a "nobody" trying to be a " somebody" -- and this is quite sad. I still think you need to condense your material into a series of books. I listened to one of your shows -- and I really liked it. Your voice and thoughts were very therapeutic. I even combined this show with ocean-sounds!! Anyway, this world has always been screwed-up and the human-race seems to be on the brink of extinction -- even if few recognize this reality. I presently think all of our options are bad -- and that there is no "good-way" out of this madness. Just get some books published -- and hopefully a critical mass of people will " get-it" with your help. Perhaps I'll catch the Thuban-Bug some day -- but I just can't stay with it right now. I'm trying to rebuild my life with the Political and Theological Paradigm I'm creating in this thread. It's just a start. I'm very disillusioned with politics and religion as usual. Namaste.
    Consider the following areas of ethics-studies:

    1. Ethics of Economics.
    2. Ethics of Entertainment.
    3. Ethics of Eschatology.

    Consider the following areas of research -- and their interrelationships:

    1. Psychology.
    2. Ethics.
    3. Politics.
    4. Religion.
    5. Business.
    6. Law.
    7. Law-Enforcement.
    8. The Military.

    Consider the following Books of the Bible -- and their interrelationships:

    1. Genesis.
    2. Deuteronomy.
    3. The Psalms.
    4. Daniel.
    5. Matthew.
    6. John.
    7. Hebrews.
    8. Revelation.

    Regarding my current fantasy of having an office-apartment under the U.S. Air Force Academy -- I'm thinking of this Room Without a View as being 700 feet below the Cadet Chapel -- just like the Underground Resistance Base in Earth: Final Conflict -- but this might be unrealistic. Who knows?? I'm trying to combine the realities of the USAFA with the United States of the Solar System -- Stargate SG-1 -- and Earth: Final Conflict. When I spoke of a 600 square-foot office-apartment -- this was just an arbitrary size. It might be 300 square-feet -- 600 square-feet -- or 900 square-feet -- I have NO idea what's realistic. It's just fun to think about. Wearing a Cadet Uniform might be unrealistic as well -- but formal attire helps create a certain attitude. Again, this is just a semi-serious mind-game. However, I keep getting the feeling that this version of my madness is somehow prophetic. I seem to remember thinking or dreaming about something like this a long time ago. It's really weird. If something like this were actually to occur -- I think there would be a helluva lot of resentment -- and even deep-seated hatred. Being a Completely Ignorant Outsider is probably bliss compared to being a Deep Underground Insider. I tend to think that the novelty would wear-off rather quickly. I feel ZERO animosity toward those who currently run the show in this solar system -- even though I suspect that all has NOT been well in this regard -- for a very long time. I know the kind of person I'd like to be in this solar system -- but I'm probably too soft -- too slow -- too stubborn -- and too stupid to really pull it off -- especially in this stupid incarnation. Better luck next incarnation. Right?! I'll just keep trying to think about what most people don't think about -- from everyone's perspective. I still don't know who the good guys and bad guys really are. Appearances and Presuppositions can be VERY deceptive. Here is one prophetic-version of orthodoxymoron arguing with the Queen of Heaven about Solar System Governance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3RNsZvdYZQ Notice the similarity between Lilly (in Star Trek: First Contact) and Rachel Constantine (in Contact). Try combining these two characters with Anna (in V).


    "Which Way Did Orthodoxy-Moron Go??!!"
    Consider this expanded study-list. Expect me to keep coming up with various and sundry lists. Those who make lists are on lists. The watchers are being watched. The Elites are probably the biggest threats to the Real Powers That Be. Most of those who think they're in charge -- probably aren't. We are all probably deluded by a diversity of illusions of grandeur, power, and democracy. I seriously doubt that we are as powerful and free as we'd like to think we are. My passive quest is my attempt to provide another perspective for the Powers That Be -- and for We the Peons. We need to consider very carefully the possibility that throughout history -- right up to this very day -- that the God(s) have made things exactly the way they have wanted things to be -- regardless of the hopes, prayers, and efforts of humanity. What if the Gods are a mixture of love, hate, competence, incompetence, sanity, insanity, good, and evil??? Once again, the mythologies, theologies, and philosophies throughout history might mask the true and unbearable theological realities. Even Jesus said "I have many things to tell you -- but you can't bear them." I create this thread with no illusions of importance or effectiveness. I simply feel compelled to attempt to make things better for all concerned -- even though this is probably an exercise in futility. I keep getting the sinking-feeling that no matter how we put things together -- it will always be wrong -- and possibly by Divine Design. Please do not interpret these words as Rebellion Against the Gods. I am simply attempting to Face Reality. Be very careful when identifying and defining "God", "Jesus", "Holy-Spirit", "Evil-Spirits", "Satan", "Devil", "Lucifer", "Gabriel", "Michael", "Angels", "Demons", "Archangels", et al. Be very careful indeed. Beware of overlaps and multiple-roles. Be Aware of Perceptions, Perspectives, and Contexts. Think about that while watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfEeEMU_KPg and this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIJiW8d_c68

    1. Genesis.
    2. Exodus.
    3. Deuteronomy.
    4. Psalms.
    5. Proverbs.
    6. Isaiah.
    7. Daniel.
    8. Matthew.
    9. Mark.
    10. Luke.
    11. John.
    12. Acts.
    13. Romans.
    14. Hebrews.
    15. Revelation.
    16. The Latin Mass.
    17. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
    18. The Desire of Ages.
    19. The Great Controversy.
    20. The Gods of Eden.
    21. The U.S. Air Force Academy.
    22. Stargate SG-1.
    23. Earth: Final Conflict.
    24. The United States of the Solar System.
    25. Sacred Classical Music.
    26. An Astronomy-Centered Interdisciplinary Study of Life, the Universe, and Everything.





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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:57 am

    I deal in possibilities and probabilities. I am a possibility thinker - but I am both a positive and a negative thinker. I'm rapidly turning this solar system into one big set for my own semi-private science fiction show -- and I'm finding a lot of supporting evidence for a lot of the possibilities. Sometimes we have to 'believe' it before we can 'see' it. I just re-watched the second 'V' show of the second season - and I liked it a lot more than the first episode. 'V' really just helps me to use my imagination. I've also rewatched 'Independence Day'. I seem to be fixated upon the Queen of Heaven - in positive and negative ways. Was/is she Amen Ra's boss - or is she ALL of the gods and goddesses - including Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Hathor, Isis, Mary, the Prince of This World, the God of This World - and Amen Ra? I'm trying to utilize Occam's Razor to cut the crap - and I'm trying to eliminate Hegel and Machiavelli -- but I really like Sun Tzu. Watch this lecture by Robert Morningsky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFzH3goUsc&NR=1 Listen especially to what he says about Amen Ra's boss. It fits with what I have been speculating about for several years now. Ra might be the One and Only God of This World - but there seems to be a Reptilian Queen of Heaven - who seems to wear the pants in this Solar System. Who is Ra - really? Who is Lucifer - really? Who is Jesus - really? Who is Mary - really? Who is Kali - really? Ra Ka Pharaoh = Rockefeller? Ra's Shield = Rothschild? Ra's Legion = Religion? Old and New Test(Amen)ts? Think, think, think. Once again - please forgive my slightly irreverent and off-color humor. I really mean no disrespect to anyone. I'm just trying to break the ice. Can the Queen inhabit dozens of various bodies - century after century - male and female? Could her soul be similar or even identical to our souls? Did Humans start the hostilities - or was it the other way around? I'm surprisingly neutral regarding all of this. I feel like the interviewer in the 'Reptilian-Interview' below. Perhaps someday I will be involved in such an interview. I don't know why I said that. What does the Queen of Heaven look like? Is she fundamentally a Reptilian-Queen?? Why do I even ask these questions?? Consider the possibility of a Vengeful Reptilian Queen of Heaven - Ruling Humanity by Secrecy - Via a Controlled Patriarchy, and a Subjugation of Women. Pretty subtle and clever. I am trying really, really hard to remain objective and detached in all of my internet posting - and, as such, I might not appear to be particularly friendly (or hostile) toward anyone - human or otherwise. I just don't know when and where the lies stop - and the truth starts...

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    The Lacerta Files Interview with a Reptilian

    First published on on www.luisprada.com on Dec 26 2004

    With Added Commentary by Michael & Stephanie Relfe http://www.metatech.org/2010-2011/the_lacerta_files_interview_with_reptilian_alien.html

    Notes by Michael and Stephanie Relfe: It was information from this interview of a female Reptilian that enabled Michael to work out how to stop his monthly abuductons, and my occasonal abductions, by changing the Quantum Matrix so that the various technologies of the enemy do not work. Michael got the information from the "Quantum Matrix" from this interview. Reading this interview again years later, we were both surprised to find that while the terms "quantum" and "matrix" are in this interview, the term "Quantum Matrix" is not in the interview. Michael figured that the Lord must have given him this extra information, after reading this article.

    Please remember at ALL TIMES that reptilians, like any predatory species or individual, LIE. The best lie is 90% truth, which is why I'm posting this article. After all, we have already benefited from some of the knowledge in this interview. Use prayer and your discernment to work out what is lie, what is propaganda and if there is any thruth in it.

    The human who is talking here is like many people would be if they met an alien or reptilian. They are so shocked and overwhelmed to learn that aliens ARE real, that they then go on to assume that everything the alien says is true. Somehow their brain seems to think "I thought that aliens weren't real. Now I see that they are. So I suppose that everything they say is true as well".

    Most reptilians the humans come in contact with, are like a combination of a lying, murdering, slimy, pornographic politician. Every word they say is to be questioned.

    If this interview was permitted by senior reptilians, it was allowed for no good purpose as far as we are concerned. However, it is also possible that God allowed her to come and speak with us to give us some information, and she has since been punished (terminated). This is possible, and we feel that this is the case, as we note that promised later sessions and information have not appeared so far, to our best knowledge.

    It is hard for me to read this interview once again, to listen to the big, fat lies of an individual of a species that took me from our home without my permission, and stole our daughter from us. (We believe that Susan went to heaven within a year or so of being taken). And Lacerta's continual arrogance really grates after a while. So what if her car is faster than my car? Advanced technology does not mean advanced spiritual progress.

    While Lacerta loves to talk about how "psychic" they are, other sources have reported that reptilians have, in fact, lost their psychic abilities, partly due to ingestion of white powder gold (the dangers of white powder gold are described here) . We also happen to believe that metaphysical abilities are a gift from God to good beings, and that reptilians who are strongly associated with Fallen Angels do not fit this category. In fact, any display of metaphysical abilities is all due to their, admittedly very advanced, technology. It is possible that Lacerta does not know this. The main reason that they still steal and harvest from humans is that they want what we have - pure metaphysical abilities.

    Another point about this being: She is a young, female student. Now, imagine that an alien race took a young, female HUMAN student onto their ship,and asked them to tell them all the secrets of technology and world power that adult humans know? What would she know? Only what she had been told in the course of her studies. Women are not allowed to become freemasons (except for a few fake female lodges given as a crumb to women), and therefore do not get to have real power on this planet. Women cannot become freemasons because freemasonry worships the penis. That's why freemasons put obelisks everywhere, and why they wear the apron - to protect the 'holy of holies'. They also worship Lucifer (Baphomet), but this is something that is told only to more advanced Freemasons.

    So, remember, Lacerta is giving only the information that a young, clueless female can give. Probably reptilians believe in brainwashing even more than humans do (maybe we learned it from them).

    Next time you are at the zoo, look into the eyes of a crocodile and ask yourself, how much love is that crocodile captable of? Most reptilians are about the same. If they are talking to you, it's because you have something that they want. Probably your DNA. (There are exceptions. Branton talked about some reptilian scientists who were working with humans and were concerned about the experiments being done on humans. And some reptilians did fight and die with the humans in some underground battles. And possibly Lacerta is not as bad as the rest of them. Once again, those stories were rumors)

    Note what is missing from this interview: Mention of God and advanced spiritual attributes, like love, honesty and service. While it is possible that some species may have messed with the DNA of some humans, those species are still not the creators of LIFE. They just try to mess with what God created. We believe that there are beings on other planets who believe in God and work to live as Jesus taught us, who consequently get blessed with techology FAR greater than that of the reptilians.

    Note that the King James Bible (1611) describes that in the story of Noah, a fallen angel - alien race modified the DNA of all humans living at that time. Only Noah and his family had unmodifed DNA (He was perfect in his generations .... Genesis 6:9). And YAHWEH destroyed those people with alien DNA in the flood. More in depth information on this subject can be found in the amazing book - "FADNA - Fallen Angel DNA: Mark of the Beast" by JB Thomas Jr. - 2003 - Xulon Press.

    By the way, if you want to see a 'documentary' on reptilians, we highly recommend the excellent, classic, B-Grade sci-fi movie, "They Live". While reptilians don't look exactly like the beings in the movie, the plot has a lot of accurate information. (Ignore the ending). We have known abductees who had a lot of resistance to watching this movie.
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    Note by the Editor of Brother Veritus' Website: These English translations were edited to correct English grammatical errors but message and intent were left intact. The word "Ilojiim" or "Illojim" used extensively in these texts could mean "Elohim", since this is the equivalent traditional word used in Western culture, however, this term may indicate a different galactic race.

    Translation by Chris Pfeiler, Editor and Translator. Taken from http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index3.html .

    Lacerta File I

    Introduction

    I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work of fiction. These are parts of a transcript of an interview I've made with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. This female being was already in contact with a friend of mine (whose name is given only with the abbreviation E.F. in the text) since some months. Let me declare, that I was all my life a sceptic about UFOs, aliens and other weird things and I thought that E.F. tells me just dreams or fictionous stories when he talked with me about his first contacts with the non-human being "Lacerta".

    I was still a sceptic when I met this being on December 16 last year (1999) in that small warm room in the remote house of my friend near to a town in the south of Sweden, despite the fact that I saw now with my own eyes that she was not human. She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that meeting that I can't deny the reality and the truth of her words any longer. This is not another of that wrong UFO papers which claim to tell the truth but tell in fact just fiction, I'm convinced that this transcript contains the only truth and therefore you should read it.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe : The fact that he sees that she is real and that MUCH of what she says is real is no evidence that ALL that she says is real.

    I had talked with her for over 3 hours, so the following transcript shows you only shortened parts of the interview, because she asked me after the interview not to publish everything she had told me already now. The order of the questions in this transcript is not always the same order in which I had asked them, so it may seem sometimes a little bit confusing to you. It was not easy to delete all the important parts she had asked me to delete from the transcript, so I apologise for the maybe unusual order. I'm in the possession of the entire transcript of the interview (49 pages with some of my drawings of her body and her equipment) and also of some tapes on which I have the full interview, but I will not reveal this before I have permission from her. I will send this shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and to understand the transcript. If you receive it, please send it to all your friends via e-mail or make print-outs and copy them.

    I certify furthermore, that various "paranormal" abilities of her species like telepathy and telekinesis (including the moving and dancing of my pencil on the table without touching and the flying of an apple around 40 centimetres over her hands) were shown to me during the 3 hours and 6 minutes of the meeting and I'm absolutely sure that these abilities were no tricks.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: This could be done by the use of technology, either inserted in her brain or done by a third party that the human interviewer is not aware of. It does not mean that reptilians have metaphysical abilities themselves.

    The following is certainly difficult to understand and to believe for someone who hasn't experienced it, but I was really in contact with her mind and I'm now completely sure that everything she said during the interview is the absolute truth about our world.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: The reptilians are masters at mind control. So there is no way that he can really know that everything she said is true. Even if the female reptilian believed it, SHE could have been programmed to believe it. Question everything, especially where lizards who work by subterfuge are involved. In fact, without confirmation that he was actually in that room at that time (brain fingerprinting) or verification that his experience really happened (biofeedback clearing), his entire memory of the incident could have been fabricated.

    Unfortunately, if I read the entire transcript and (much more) this very shortened form by myself I have the strong impression, that everything I've written sounds too unbelievable to be true, that everything sounds more like a bad science fiction story from TV or cinema and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiences. But they are true, if you believe it or not. I can't expect from you that you believe my simple words without evidence, but I can't give you that evidence. Please read the transcript and think about it and you will maybe see the truth in this words.

    There will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same house in Sweden) on April 23, 2000 and she promised me to give me maybe some evidence of her existence. In the meantime I collect questions which I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me permission to reveal more of the missing parts in that transcript and about the coming war.

    Believe it or not, this makes no real difference (but I hope you will believe).

    Ole K. – January 8, 2000
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    Transcript of Interview (shortened form)

    December 16, 1999

    Question: First of all, who are you and what are you? Are you an extraterrestrial species or can your origin be found on this planet?

    Answer: As you could see with your own eyes, I'm not a human being like you and to be honest I'm no real mammal (despite my partly mammal-like body features, which are a result of evolution). I'm a female reptile being, belonging to a very old reptilian race. We are the native terrans and we live on that planet since millions of years.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Those who have read the Mars Records will recognise this as true. We found by muscle testing that the body does not consider Reptilians as "aliens", because they have been here long enough to be considered native.

    Note by Michael Relfe: Some Bible researchers believe that when YAHWEH gave the order to replenish the earth, HE was referring to a previous race that had dominion of earth. And it is clear who the new owners are.

    "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth". Genesis 1:28

    We are mentioned in your religious writings like your Christian Bible and many of the ancient human tribes were aware of our presence and worshipped us as gods, for example the Egyptians and the Inca and many other old tribes.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Yes, interesting, isn't it? This is true- there is so much evidence from stone statues all around the world that in the past humans did worship them as Gods. Now, most of these people also practised human sacrifice. Which means that that was done with the approval of the reptilians. Did they eat us? Do they eat us still ? Some people have reported that they do.

    My question is, what happened? Why don't they want us to know that they exist? Let alone worship them? Michael and I believe (and, of course, this may not be true), that each time, humans worshiped them as gods only for a while. Familiarity breeds contempt and after a while we think that humans lost their awe of the big lizards, and got sick of them torturing and eating us (human sacrifice). And rebelled. And with our superior metaphysical abilities, we won every time. Which is why the lizards now stay in hiding.

    However, we think they are starting to want to come back and get worshiped again which is why there is SO MUCH programming of children in books, TV, toys and museums to love dinasaurs and reptiles. We visited a Children's museum in a major city one day. The play area for children had about 90% plastic dinasaurs and reptiles! Only about 10% mammals and birds! What happened to lions, pandas, cat and dogs? An area with live animlas was the same - about 80% reptiles. No bunnies, guinea pigs and parrots. Just lizards, snakes and tortoises. And have you ever noticed how many, many children's books ALWAYS have a reptile in them? And how "d is for 'dog'" is now replaced by "d is for 'dinasaurl" (a much tougher word to read)?

    Your Christian religion has misunderstood our role in your creation, so we are mentioned as "evil serpent" in your writings. This is wrong. Your race was genetically engineered by aliens and we were just the more or less passive visitors of this accelerated evolution process. You must know (some of your scientists have already supposed this) that your species had evolved in a naturally completely impossible speed within just 2–3 millions of years. This is absolutely impossible, because evolution is a much slower process if it's natural but you have not understand this.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Wrong again. Evolution is not slow. It's VERY fast. I am not saying that God did not create everything in the beginning. Or that aliens have not interfered in DNA since then. But one thing is clear. Evolution continued AFTER the Bible's Genesis. Please read Robert Felix's "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" to learn that IMMEDIATELY after the many major extinction events that earth has experienced, thousands of new life forms appeared, with no previous evidence of them in the fossil record. This has happened many, many times.

    Your creation was artificial and done by genetic engineering, but not by us but by an alien species. If you ask me, if I'm an extraterrestrial, I must answer no. We are native terrans. We had and have some colonies in the solar system, but we originate on this planet. It's in fact our planet and not yours—it was never yours.

    Note by Michael Relfe: Please understand that predatory species of all types continue to get quite a bit of mileage out of the "you were created by aliens" scam. This is an attempt to steal the heritage of and undermine the confidence of humans as well as preventing people from having a personal relationship with their creator. As previously described, it is clear that humans were created by, and in the image of, YAHWEH, Creator of ALL things. This is a powerful secret that Lucifer and his operatives do not want you to know. Lucifer and the dark powers of this planet want humans to think they are animals, with no spiritual heritage. YAHWEH wants people to understand that they have infinite, eternal life through HIS Son YaHuShua (Jesus Christ) and that they have the ability, duty and honor of destroying the creations of Lucifer. And that includes everything that the canabalistic reptilians have created. And that is what the reptilians are scared of.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Maybe that's why this planet belongs to Lucifer. We know that earth belongs to Lucifer because when he tried to tempt Jesus by offering him the whole world, if he would only worhip him, Jesus did not rebuke him. Lucifer (Satan) is head of the fallen angels and there's a strong connection between fallen angels and reptilians. While there is a spiritual Hell, there is another Hell of fire and brimstone deep within the earth, full of pain and terror, and that's the home of the reptilians.

    Question: Can you tell me your name?

    Answer: This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able to pronounce it correctly (and a mispronounciation of our names is very offensive for some of my kind). Our language is very different from yours, but my name is—I will try to say it smoother by use of your human letters—something like "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh" with a very very strong pronounciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds. We have no forenames like you but only a single but unique name which is divided and charakterised by the way of speaking and which is given not to children (who have an own children-name) but only in a special procedure in the adolescent age at the time of either religious or scientific "enlightenment" or awareness (as you would call it). I would appreciate it if you don't try to say my real name with your human tongue. Please call me "Lacerta", this is the name I generally use when I'm among humans and talk with them.

    Question: How old are you?

    Answer: We measure the time not like you in astronomical years and in the revolve of the earth around sun, because we usually live beneath the surface of the planet. Our time measurement depends on periodically returning cycles in the earth magnetic field and according to this (and said with your numbers) I'm today—let me calculate—57,653 cycles old. I have reached my adult phase and my awareness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us). According to your human time scale I'm around 28 years old.

    Question: What is your task? Do you have a "job" like us?

    Answer: To say it with your words: I'm a curious student of the social behaviour of your species. That's why I'm here and talk to you, that's why I have revealed my real nature to E.F. and now to you and that's why I give you all that secret information and why I will try to answer all the questions on your many sheets of paper honestly. I will see how you react, how others of your kind react. There are so many crazies and liars of your kind on this planet who claim to know the truth about us, about UFOs, about aliens and so on and some of you believe their lies. I'm interested to see how your species will react if you make the truth (which I will tell you now) public. I'm quite sure everyone of you will refuse to believe my words, but I hope I'm wrong, because you need to understand if you want to survive the coming years.

    Question: I've read your full statement (which you have given to E.F.) about this, but can you give me now just a short answer: are UFOs real flying objects piloted by extraterrestrials or do they belong to your species?

    Answer: Some observed UFOs—as you call them—belong to us, but most not. Most of the "mysterious" flying objects in the sky are not technological devices but mainly misinterpretations of natural phenomena your scientists have not understand (like spontaneous plasma flares in the high atmosphere). Nevertheless, some UFOs are real craft belonging either to your own species (especially to your military) or to other alien species or at last to us (but a minority of sighted craft belongs really to us, because we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere and we have special ways to hide our ships). If you read a report about a sighting of a metalish bright-gray cigar-shaped cylindrical object with a length of—there are different types—let me say between 20 and 260 of your metres and if this object had made a very deep humming sound and if there were 5 bright red lights on the metalish surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end) then it's likely that someone of you have seen one of our ships and this means that it was either partly defect or that someone of us was not careful enough.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe. That's interesting. I have always had an especially negative feeling from every single recording of a cigar-shaped craft.

    We have also a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft, but such UFOs belong usually to an alien species. Triangular UFOs belong generally to your own military but they use foreign technology to build them. If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should have a look at the skies over the Arctic, the Antarctic and over Inner Asia (especially over the mountains there).

    Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?

    Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us). This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom—you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I've described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definetely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible).

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: I cannot agree too much with her last statement!

    Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you've mentioned—do they mean the Pleiades?

    Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct.

    Question: As you have not allowed me to make photos—what would be very useful to prove your real existence and the truth of this story—can you describe your details?

    Answer: I know that it would be helpful to prove the authenticity of this interview if you can make some photos from me. Otherwise, you humans are very sceptical (that's good for us and for the real alien species acting secretly on this planet) so even if you had such photos, many of your kind would say that they are fraud, that I'm just a masked human woman or something like that (that would be very offensive for me).

    You must understand, that I can't give you permission to make photos of me or of my equipment. This has various reasons, which I want not to discuss with you further, but one of the reasons is the keeping up of the secrecy of our existence, another reason is more religious. Nevertheless, you have permission to make drawings of my look and of my equipment I can show you later. I can also try to describe myself, but I doubt that others of your kind will be able to imagine my real look just from simple words, because the automatic denial of the existence of reptilian species and generally of intelligent species other then your own is part of the programming of your mind. Well, I will try.

    Imagine the body of a normal human woman and you have at first a good imagination of my body. Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands, two legs and two feet and the proportions of my body are like yours. As I'm female I have also two breasts (despite our reptile origin, we have started to give milk to our babies during the evolution process—this happened around 30 million years ago—because this is the best thing to keep the young alive. Evolution had done this for your species already in the dinosaur age and—a little bit later—also for ours. That means not that we are now real mammals) but the breasts of us are not as large as those of human woman and the size of them is generally equal for every female of my kind. The external reproduction organs are for both sexes smaller then those of humans, but they are visible and they have the same function as yours (another gift of evolution to our species).

    My skin is mainly of a green-beige color—more pale green—and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot of the size of 1–2 centimetres) on our skin and in our face (the patterns are different for both sexes but females have more, especially in the lower body and in the face). You can see them in my case as two lines over the eyebrows crossing my forehead, at my cheek and at my chin.

    My eyes are a little bit larger then human eyes (for this reason, we can see better in the darkness) and usually dominated from the large black pupils, which are surrounded from a small bright-green iris (males have a dark-green iris). The pupil is slit and can change its size from a small black line to a wide-open egg-shaped oval, because our retina is very light sensitive and the pupil must compare this. We have external round ears but they are smaller and not so curved as yours, but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive for sonic (we can also hear a wider range of sonic). There's a muscle or "lid" over the ears which can completely close them (for example under water).

    Our nose is more pointed and there is a V-shaped curving between the nostrils, which enabled the ancestors to "see" temperature. We have lost most of this ability, but we can still feel temperature much better with this "organ". Our lips are shaped like yours (those of females a little bit larger then those of males) but of a pale brown color and our teeth are very white and strong and a little bit longer and sharper then your soft mammal teeth. We have no different hair colors like you (but there is a traditon to color the hairs in different ages) and the original color is—like mine—a greenish brown. Our hairs are thicker and stronger then yours and they grow very slow. In additon, the head is the only part of our body where we have hairs.

    Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours, but the color is different (green-beige, like the face) and there are scale-like structures on the upper legs (over the knee) and upper arms (over the elbow). Our five fingers are a little bit longer and thinner then human fingers and our skin on the palm is plain, so we have no lines like you but again a combination of a scale-like skin structure and of the brown dots (both sexes have the dots on the palm) and we have no fingerprints like you. If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother then your hairy skin. There are small sharp horns on the upside of both middle fingers. The fingernails are grey and generally longer then yours. You see that my nails are not so long and round at the top. This is because I'm female. Males have sharp pointed nails with a length of sometimes 5 or 6 of your centimetres.

    The following feature is very different from your body and part of our reptilian origin: if you touch the backside of my upper body you will feel a hard bony line through my clothing. This is not my spine but a very difficult shaped external plate-strucure of skin and tissue following exactly our spine from the head to the hip. There is an extremly high number of nerves and large blood vessels in this structure and in the plates (which are around two or three centimetres long and very touch sensitive—this is the reason why we have always problems to sit in chairs with a back like this chair.) The main task of these small plates (beside a role in our sexuality) is simply the regulation of our body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight, these plates become more bloodfilled and the vessels become wider and the sun is able to heat up our reptilioid blood (which circulates through the body and through the plates) for many degrees and that gives us a great pleasure.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: If they LIKE the sun so much, why didn't they just come out in the open and stay there, a long time ago? Especially if they are as innocent as she claims. Then we wouldn't have any trouble believing in their existence. The reason why they are in hiding is important to mankind. For some reason/s, they are afraid of us. That's the only thing that makes sense.

    What else is different from your kind? Oh, we have no navel, because we were born in a different way to your mammal birth. The other exterior differences from your kind are minor and I think I must not mention all now, because most of them are not visible if we wear clothing. I hope the description of my body was detailed enough. I would advise you to make some drawings.

    Question: What kind of clothing do you generally wear. I suppose this is not the way you dress normally?

    Answer: No, I wear this human every-day-clothing only when I'm among humans. To be honest, it's not very comfortable for me to wear such tight things and it is always a very unusual feeling. If we are in our own home (this means in our subterranean home) or in our large artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near to our own name, we are usually naked. Is this shocking for you? When we are in the public and together with many others of my species we wear very wide and soft clothing made of thin, light stuff. I have told you that many parts of our bodies are very touch sensitive, mostly the small backplates so we can't feel comfortable in tight clothing because it can hurt us. Man and woman wear often the same kind of clothing, but the colors are different for the sexes.

    Question: You've said "others near to your own name". Do you mean your familiy?

    Answer: No, not really. You would call it "family" but with this word you mean only those of your kind which belong genetically together like father or mother and child. As I have said earlier we have a very difficult and unique name. Part of the pronounciation of that name is absolutey unique and there is no other being with the same name, but part of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way that told the others to which "family" (I must use the word, because you haven't the right one in your vocabulary) you belong.

    This means not that all in that group are genetically related to you, because this groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us. This group includes generally your genetic relations—except one of them had decided to leave this group—and your connection with father and mother is often the strongest. It would be too difficult for me to explain you now our very old social system which is very complex and we would need many hours only for the primary things. Maybe we can meet another time and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things.

    Question: Have you a tail like normal reptiles?

    Answer: Do you see one? No, we have no visible tail. If you look at our skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis. This is a useless rudiment of the tail of our ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside. Oh, our embryos have tails during the first months of development, but these tails disappear before they are born. A tail makes only sense for a primitive species which tries to walk on two legs and must hold the balance with the tail, but our skeleton has changed during evolution and our spine is nearly the same shape as yours, so we need no tail to stay on two feet.

    Question: You said that you were born in a different way to us. Do you lay eggs?

    Answer: Yes, but not like your birds or primitive reptiles. Actually, the embryo grows in a protein liquid inside the mothers womb, but there is also an egg-shaped but very thin chalk hull around it, that fills the whole womb. The embryo inside this hull is completely autark from the mother's body and it has every substance it needs to develop inside this chalk hull. There is also a cord like your navel cord which is connected to a point hidden behind the backplates.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: It is interesting that she says they have a cord like our umbilical cord, when everone 'knows' that all reptiles are born in an egg. This is probably true. We believe that draconians and reptilians are different species. (And there may be many different species of reptilians and draconians). The baby 'dragon' in a bottle which you can see towards the bottom of www.metatech.org has an umbilical cord attached to the front of its body. This baby is not from her species.

    When the baby is going to be born, the whole egg is pressed through the vagina covered in a slimy protein substance and the baby came out of this soft egg after some minutes. These two horns on our middle fingers were instinctively used from babies to break through the chalk hull to take their first breath. Our young are not so large as your babies when they were born, they are between 30 and 35 of your centimetres tall, the egg is around 40 centimetres tall (this is because our vagina is smaller then a human one) but we grow to a normal size of 1,60 to 1,80 metres.

    Question: What about your body temperature? You've said that you enjoy to lay in the sun. What effect has this to your organism?

    Answer: We are no mammals and as reptiles our body temperature depends on the temperature of our surrounding. If you touch my hand you will maybe feel that it is colder than yours, because our normal body temperature is around 30 to 33 degrees centigrade. If we sit in the sun (especially naked and with our row of small backplates in the sun) our body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. This rise causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel then very, very good. You humans only enjoy to be in the sun but for us it is the greatest pleasure you can imagine (maybe like your sexual excitement). We also enjoy to swim in very warm water or other liquids to rise our body temperature. If we are for some hours in the shadow, our temperature goes back to 30 to 33 degrees. This can cause no harm to us, but we feel much better in the sun. We have artificial sun-rooms in the underground but this is not the same for us like the real sun.

    Question: What do you eat?

    Answer: Generally various things like you: flesh, fruit, vegetables, special kinds of fungus (from subterranean farms) and other things. We can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you. The main difference between you and us is, that we must eat flesh, because our body needs the proteins. We can't live completely vegetarian like your kind because our digestion would stop working and we would die after some weeks or maybe months without flesh. Many of us eat raw flesh or other things which would be disgusting for you. Personally, I prefer cooked flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges.

    Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species? How old is your species? Have you evolved from primitive reptiles as mankind has evolved from apes?

    Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it sounds certainly unbelievable to you, but it's the truth. I will try to explain it in short. Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors from the dinosaur race died in a great global cataclysm. The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster—an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely—but a war between two enemy alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet. According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war was the first alien war on planet earth but it was definitely not the last (and a future war is coming soon, while a "cold war"—as you call it—between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your planet).

    The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species, whose both names are again not pronouncable for your tongues. I'm able to say them but it would hurt your ear if I tell you the names in their orginal way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from a solar system in the star constellation you call "Procyon" today in your maps. The other species—about which we know not so much—was a reptilian species, but they have nothing to do with our own species, because we have evolved from local saurians without exterior influence (except the successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later). The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe but from a—well, how should I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to which I will come later. Let me say, that you are nearly as far away from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago.

    To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from this universe but from another "bubble" in the foam of the omniverse. You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it). The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to "walk" between bubbles by use of—as you would call it—quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind (my own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your species, but we are not able to do the matterstring/bubble changing without technology, but other species active on this planet are able and this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors.)

    Back to our own history: the first species (the humanoids) had reached Earth around 150 years before the reptilians and they built some colonies on the former continents. There was a large colony on the continent you call "Antarctica" today and another one in the continent you call "Asia" today. These people lived together with animal-like saurians on the planet without problems. When the advanced reptilian species arrived in this system, the humanoid colonists from "Procyon" tried to communicate peacefully, but they were not sucessful and a global war started within months.

    You must understand that both species were interested in this young planet not for its biology and undeveloped species, but for only one reason: raw material, especially copper. To understand this reason, you must know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because it is—together with some unstable materials—able to produce new stable elements if you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high nuclear radiation field to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating fields. The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiaton field-chamber can produce a force field of special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the base for this is an extremly complex formula you are not able to discover because of the restrictions of your simple mind).

    Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth and for this reason, they fought a not very long war in space and orbit. The humanoid species seemed to be sucessful during the first time, but in a last battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon—a special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the planet but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper. The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet you call "Middle America" today. As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect was much stronger then the reptilians had expected. A deadly radiaton, an over-production of fusion-oxygen, a fall-out of different elements and a "nuclear winter" for nearly 200 years were the results. Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their interest on the planet after some years for (even for us) unknown reasons—maybe because of the radiation.

    Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died. By the way, one result of the fusionbomb was the fall-out of different elements and materials created in the burning process and one of that materials was Iridium. Your human scientists today see the Iridium concentration in the ground as an evidence for an asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs. That is not true, but how should you know that?

    Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the detonation but in the bad things which came after the war, especially in the nuclear winter and in the fall-out). Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the next 20 years. Some of them—especially those in the oceans—were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had changed. The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth then before. Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to suvive: fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles...and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaur which had developed together with the last large animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus.

    This new reptile was walking on two legs and looked at little bit like your reconstruction of an Iguanodon (it originated in this family) but it was smaller (around 1.50 metres tall) with some humanoid features, a changed bone structure, a larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb which was able to grab things, a different organism and disgestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes and...most important...with a new and better brain structure. This was our direct ancestor.

    There are theories that the radiation from the bomb took part in the mutations of the organism of this new breed, but this is not proven. Nevertheless, this little humanoid-like dinosaur evolved during the following 30 million years (as I have said earlier, a species need generally more time to evolve then you think, if the evolution is not artifically induced like in your case) from an animal to a more or less thinking being. These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behaviour, they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools and the use of fire as help to warm them—especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive. During the next 20 million years this species was divided by nature into 27 sub-species (unfortunately, former reptilian species were prone to divide themselves in a more or less illogical way into sub-species during the evolution process. You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times) and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance.

    Well, nature was not very friendly to us and as far as we know from the 27 sub-species, 24 were extincted in primitive wars and in evolution, because their organism and mind was not developed enough to survive and (as main reason) they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way when the climate changed. 50 million years after the war and after the end of Dinosaurs, only three (now also technological) advanced reptilian species were remaining on this planet together with all the other lower animals. Through natural and artificial crossbreedings this three species were united to one reptilian species and through the invention of genetic manipulations, we were able to "eliminate" the dividing-prone genes in our genetic structure.

    According to our history and belief, this was the time when our final reptilian race—as you see me today—was created by use of genetic engineering. This was around 10 million years ago and our evolution nearly stopped at this point (well, actually there were some minor changes in our look toward a more humanoid and mammal-like appearance during the coming ages, but we have not divided again into sub-species). You see, we are a very old race in comparison to your kind, which was jumping around as small monkey-like animals in the trees at this time while we invented technology, colonized other planets of this system, built large cities on this planet (which disappeared without a trace in the ages) and engineered our own genes while your genes where still those of animals.

    10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground (again because of the change of the climate—especially on the so-called African continent). But they evolved very slow as it is normal for a mammal and if nothing extraordinary had happened to your kind, we wouldn't be able to sit here and talk because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and you would sit in your cave clothed with fur and trying to discover the secrets of fire—or you would maybe sit in one of our zoos.

    But the things had developed differently and you believe now you are the "crown of creation" and you can sit in the modern house and we must hide and live beneath the earth and in remote areas. Around 1.5 million years ago, another alien species arrived at Earth (it was surprisingly the first species since over 60 million years. This would be more surprising for you if you would know how many different species are here today).

    The interest of this humanoid species—you call them "Ilojiim" today—was not the raw material and the copper, it were to our astonishment the unadvanced ape-humanoids. Despite our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to "help" the apes to evolve a little bit faster, to serve them in the future as some kind of slave-race in coming wars. The fate of your species was not really important for us, but we didn't liked the presence of the "Ilojiim" on our planet and they didn't liked our presence on their new "galactic zoo" planet and so your sixth and seventh creation was the reason for a war between us and them. You can read about that war for example partly in the book you call "Bible" in a very strange way of description. The real truth is a very long and difficult story. Should I continue?

    Question: No, not now. I've made some notes about your history and now I have some questions.

    Answer: Please ask.



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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:32 pm

    I think I've been doing some very dangerous speculation over the past several years -- yet I think I will continue to model a contrarian theological perspective -- not because I think I know better -- but because I think it is better to consider all of the possibilities -- especially regarding the most important subjects imaginable. I keep thinking about Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer -- where in antiquity they were all simply Interdimensional Spirits. I keep using Reptilian Terminology because I am trying to understand that hypothetical phenomenon. Therefore I am thinking of these Interdimensional Spirits as being Interdimensional Reptilians. At some point, I suspect that Michael was instrumental in the Genetic Engineering of the Human Being -- How and Why -- I know not. I further suspect that Michael became a Human Being -- and that this did not sit well with Gabriel especially. I get the feeling that Lucifer was (and is) somewhat opportunistic and renegade -- whereas Gabriel and Michael are more hardline idealistic -- but with very different philosophies of physicality and governance. Anyway, I've been thinking of Gabriel as fundamentally being Pure Draconian Reptilian -- Lucifer as Tall Grey (or Hybrid) -- and Michael as Completely Human. This doesn't mean that these three can't exist in other physicalities -- it simply indicates their possible preferences and loyalties. I sometimes think I might've had contact with one or more of them -- or at least with representatives of them. Just speculation. I get the feeling that the plan is to eliminate Human Physicality completely. I keep thinking of Michael as being the Ancient God who got overthrown and demoted after creating Humanity. I get the feeling that Gabriel is considered by most of the universe to be the new God -- with Michael being a Universal Personna non Grata. I get the feeling that Lucifer started out fighting side by side with Michael -- but saw the writing on the wall -- and switched loyalties to Gabriel -- serving Gabriel as the God of This World -- as an Agent of God-Satan to buffet Humanity. Just speculation, mind you. I have no idea if this hypothesis is even partially true. I am simply thinking in terms of Gabriel and Lucifer against Michael and Humanity. Legion, Constantine, and The Prophecy seem to have a bias in this direction -- but I am very selective regarding which aspects of these productions I actually take seriously. I'm trying to look at the Bible and the writings of Ellen White with this radical hypothesis clearly in mind. So far, it seems to work frighteningly well. I truly hope that my speculation is absolute bullshit. I HATE thinking like this -- but what am I supposed to do with an Insane World -- and even more Insane Theology??? Some day I'd love to have an off the record briefing by some sort of agent who knows the absolute truth about all of this crazy stuff. You know -- like the briefing Townsend (Martin Sheen) gave Jesse Marcel in Roswell. Skip to 1:10:00. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40ib9nOfIGE Here now is a continuation of the Reptilian Interview:

    Question: First of all, you handle with a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with the dinosaurs, survived the—as you called it—artificial cataclysm and evolved then over 40 million years and your evolution was completed 10 million years ago. This sounds very unbelievable to me. Can you say something to this?

    Answer: I understand that this must sound absolutely unbelievable to you, because you are a young and genetically engineered species. Your historical horizon ends at a scale of just some thousands of years and you think this is right. But it isn't. This is impossible. Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales. Our evolution time may seem incredibly long to you, but this is in fact the original way of nature. Remember, your early mammal ancestors developed together with dinosaurs and they survived the bomb like us. They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes, some of them larger, some of them smaller. This is evolution of the body.

    But what about their mind and intelligence? They were simple animals. The mammals evolved since—let us say—150 millions of years, but only in the last 2–3 millions of years they were able to become intelligent and thinking. And within this small period beings like you were created. From nature? 148 millions of years time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 millions of years time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you? Ask yourself: Do you really think this accelerated evolution is natural? Then your species is more ignorant then I've thought. We have not evolved wrong but you.

    Question: I understand. But I have another question. You've mentioned many facts about the ancient war between the aliens 65 million years ago. This happened very long before your kind became really intelligent (as far as I have understood you). Why do you know so many things about that "first war" and about the evolution of your species?

    Answer: This is a good question (much better then the previous) and I have not explained it properly to you. Our knowledge about the first war comes completely from an ancient artefact, which was found around 16,000 years ago from our archeologists on the continent you call North America today. They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimetres. The plate was made of an even for us unknown magnetic material and inside the plate there was another smaller crystal plate which contained an enormous amount of information coded in the molecular structure of the crystal.

    This "memory plate" was manufactured from the last bomb survivers of human race from "Procyon" already 65 million years ago but it was completely intact when we found it. Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. The plate contained detailed descriptions of both species (but more about the humanoids) and about the events and weapons, including the fusion bomb. It contained also a description of the animals and saurians on earth, including our pre-intelligent ancestor species. The rest of our knowledge about our evolution comes from skeletons and from the back-reading and de/encoding of our DNA. You see, we know the real truth about our roots since 16,000 years. Before that time, there was a more religious idea of our creation.

    Note by Michael Relfe: Assuming that this female is providing accurate information, from what she has been taught, it now becomes apparent that eveything the "reptilians" understand about their history is from an unknown alien artifact, created by an unknown alien group at an unknown time for an unknown purpose. Just as the reptilians enjoy subjecting humans to propaganda and disinformation, it seems that some other group is "running a game" on the reptilians as well. So this "advanced" reptilian race has no hard facts on their history, contrary to what they would have humans believe.

    Question: What has happened with both alien species?

    Answer: We don't know exactly. The surviving humanoids on earth obviously died in the years after the bomb and others of their kind and the reptilians never came back to Earth (as far as we know). Concerning the reptilian aliens, there is a possibility that it was physically impossible for them to return, because the matter between bubbles is sometimes in rapid movement. The current theory is, that both species had ceased to exist during the millions of years.

    Question: You've mentioned skeletons of your kind. How can it be, that human scientists haven't found any trace of you and your ancestors if you really live for such a long time on this planet? We have found many skeletons of primitive dinosaurs, but none of an advanced reptilian being with a larger skull and brain and a hand with a thumb as you have described it before.

    Answer: Yes, you have. But your "great" scientists were not able to reconstruct the skeletons completey, because they wanted to reconstruct reptilian animals, not intelligent beings. You would laugh if you would know how many of the (especially small) saurian skeletons in your museums are totally wrong constructions of never-existing beings, because you used many bones which didn't really belong together and sometimes you made artificial bones if something was missing you needed to construct an "animal" saurian.

    Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but they don't make it public, because they can't explain it and they claim, that the right bones were just missing and their reconstruction is right. Many bones of us were used for Iguanodon reconstructions, for example the hands with the visible thumb (look at an Iguanodon in a museum and you will see that I'm right.) A scientist in the country you call United States had build a nearly correct skeleton of our kind some years ago, but the local government (which is partly aware of our existence) confiscated the reconstruction. As we live today (and since thousands of years) nearly completely beneath the earth, you will not find any cadavers or skeletons of us.

    Question: You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Do you mean something like a "hollow Earth" with this. Is there a second sun inside our planet?

    Answer: No, Earth is not really completely hollow and there is no second sun inside. (Note: United States Navy Admiral Richard Byrd would disagree with that statement). This story is ridiculous and physically not possible (even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this.) Do you know how much mass a sun must have to produce energy and light for a longer time by fusion? Do you really think that there could be a small active sun inside the planet? When I talk about our subterranean home, I talk about large cave systems. The caves you have discovered near to the surface are tiny in comparison to real caves and huge caverns deeper in the earth (in a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 of your metres, but connected with many hidden tunnels to the surface or to surface-near caves) and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves (Note that this female appears to know noting concerning the U.S. Military D.U.M.B.S. (Deep Underground Military Bases) at depths of over 35 miles.

    Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. If I talk about artificial sunlight in our cities I don't mean a real sun but various technological sources of light (including gravitational sources) which illuminates the caverns and tunnels. There are special cave areas and tunnels with a strong UV light in every city and we use that places to heat our blood. Furthermore, we have also some surface sunplaces in remote areas, especially in America and Australia.

    Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?

    Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that). When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometres north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world—more are far more north and east).

    As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world (See more information on these tunnels in the "Branton Files"..

    If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definetely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a for you strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can.

    Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name "Lacerta" when you are among humans and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the surface of earth. But how can you be among humans? You don't look like us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species. Why has nobody seen and described a being like you if your kind lives already since our "creation" together with us on the same planet. Can you explain that to me?

    Answer: First, my kind was of course seen and described (and worshipped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible. You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us for also in the southern part of the American continent on various temples. So-called "wise" men from India and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in writings, together with other "wise" men from the African continent. I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe beside the "Ilojiim") in your history. If you don't believe me, have a look at your history and you will see the truth in my words. Your "great" scientists called the belief in us "superstition" and "religion" and today's "intelligent" humans have forgotten our presence on the surface in the past.

    Furthermore, our species is seen even today sometimes from human witnesses in its original shape on earth or in our surface-near entries and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media didn't take the reports of such "crazies" serious (that's good for us and that's the reason why we allow those people to see us as we really are). Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and politicians from the surface, but this is top-secret—as you would call it—and nobody of your public knows anything about it (the matter of these meetings is generally the upcoming war with and between the alien species and our assistance in this war) (Note: This predatory species will attempt to convince humans that it is "good" and will help in a war against the"bad" aliens).But there is also another explanation, why we can walk among you and why you are not able to recognize us: mimicry.

    The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you, but as you have asked I will expain it. I have told you before, that we have more advanced mental abilities then your species and with "more advanced" I mean, that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from our birth on (in fact, mother and new-born child communicate generally with telepathy during the first months) without special training as you need it to activate these sleeping parts of your brain. The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our hypophyse is larger and more active then yours—especially when we are in sunlight. Our own abilities are very strong in comparison to yours, but weak in comparison to the "matterstring/bubble" mind forces of some of the alien species on this planet. I was never very good in that mind things, but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even for attack (Note the subtle insinuation that humans are inferior to reptilians regarding metaphysical abilities, when in fact humans are superior to them because humans were created in the image of YAHWEH).

    When we are on the surface and we meet human beings (even a large group of them—this makes no difference. All of your minds are like one mind) we are able to "touch" their mind and induce them via telepathy the command "See us as one of your kind" and the weak human mind will accept this order without refusion and they will see us (despite our reptilian look) as normal humans. I've done this many times and you weak humans generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman, because I have created this special "mimicry image" in my mind years ago and I can induce it into your minds without problems. I've needed some time at the beginning to learn the use of the mimicry correctly, but then it worked nearly automatically and I can even walk among a group of yours and nobody will recognize what I am.

    Note from Michael Relfe - If this female is providing correct information, then the metaphysical ability she is describing, whether natural or artificial, could be described as "projectional telepathic hypnosis" using a thought form as a carrier. Some countermeasures to this weapon might be prayer, asking YAHWEH for shielding or changing the quantum matrix inside yourself so that the thought form and the hypnotic "glue" that makes it stick would have no effect on the you.

    There is a simple switch ("See us as we really are / See us as we want you to see us") in your consciousness which was placed there from the "Ilojiim" when they created your kind and we can use this swich to convince you that you see humans when you look at us (other aliens use this switch, too). It is easier than you think. When there are meetings between your kind and aliens which seem to look exactly like yours, these aliens have used that switch and some of the meetings with man-like aliens can be also explained with meetings with my kind). When I met E.F. the first time, he saw me also as a normal human woman and I remember that he was very frightened and shocked when I revealed him my real appearance.

    Question: Do you mean, that you can really make me believe that I talk now with an attractive brown-haired human woman instead of a reptilian being like you?

    Answer: Probably, but I don't think so in your special case. When someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do it without problems with his mind (even with large groups) because nobody expects to see a reptile woman. But I have allowed your mind to see me in my original appearance from our first meeting on and I have never induced something into your mind, so you have already realized that I'm not human. If I would now try to change this, it would probably led to an absolute confusion or to unconsciousness and I don't want to harm you. As I have said I'm not very good in these things.

    Question: That's very scary. Can you kill with that ability?

    Answer: Yes, but it's forbidden. This means not that it was not done in previous times.

    Question: Have both sexes this abilitiy?

    Answer: Yes.

    Question: What about photos? How do you appear on photos?

    Answer: This is a silly question. I appear on photos as a reptile being, because I can't influence the photo or on the camera itself but only on the photographers mind.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Is this the truth? Or disinformation? Or what she has been programmed to believe? Or, are there more than one kind of reptilian? One who lives underground and can't affect the camera? And another than can shapeshift with some kind of technology, that can affect the camera?

    If he or she would develop the film and show the photo to others, they would see me in my original shape. That's the reason why it is forbidden for our kind to be filmed or photographed and we must avoid every camera on the surface (that is very difficult and we were filmed sometimes in the past without our knowledge, especially from certain of your goverments and secret agencies).

    Question: What other commands can your kind induce into our minds. Something like "Serve us" or "Obey"?

    Answer: This is again a strange question.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: She needs to watch the DVD "They Live". Think of it as a kind of documentary. (Ignore the ending and hokey effects. Considering how old it is, it is amazingly accurate).

    We are not your enemy (most of us not) so why should we do this?

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Hmmm - According to her, we used to worship them. They they decided to go underground and stay hidden from us. Now, why on earth would they have needed to do that if they weren't our enemies?

    To answer your question: it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptilian. There is no "Serve us" or "Serve me" switch in your mind, so such a command is much more difficult to induce. If the human mind and consciouness is weak and the reptilian inducer is experienced in these things and was some hours in the sun before he or she tries to do it, then it could probably work for a certain time. There are secret teachings about such things, but I've never learned anything about it.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Well, there you go. I said at the beginning that this is a young, clueless female who has been fed a bunch of drivel, as we have. So how could she expected to know much of real importance?

    I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for communication with my own kind and sometimes for other private things, but I've never used it to harm humans or their mind. I would appreciate it if we can end with this topic here.

    Question: A last question: you've said earlier, that you can hide your UFOs? Do you use the same abilities to do this?

    Answer: Yes, but on a technical base. There is a powerful device inside each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your minds to convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky or that you see normal aircraft like planes instead of our ships. This isn't used very often, because we avoid human public when we move in the atmosphere. If you are able to see our "UFOs" it means that the device is either defective or deactivated for some reason. The camouflage effect doesn't work on photos—to answer this possible question of you already in advance—but why should someone make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there. By the way, most of the surface-near entry points to our tunnels are also hidden with such a device and your kind will generally see only normal cave walls instead of the door. That's one reason why I've said that I doubt that you will be able to find such a secret door to our world (but it has happened a few times in the past).

    Question: Back to your and our own history. You've mentioned the race of the "Illojiim" who have created our human race. From where did they come and how did they look like? What had exactly happened when they arrived? Are they our "God"?

    Answer: The "Illojiim" came from this universe, from the solar system you call "Aldebaran" in your maps. They were a very tall humanoid species with usually blonde hairs and a very white skin (they avoided the sunlight, because it hurt their skin and their eyes. This was absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like us). They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning and we started a more or less friendly communication with them, but later they showed their real intentions and plans: they wanted to evolve the apes to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for them on their new zoo planet.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: This is interesting. They sound like the blonde nordics. Unfortunately, when people get abducted or meet these beings, because they look blonde and physically beautiful, many humans end up thinking that they must be good. Instead of the truth - they are as evil as the greys and reptiilains. In fact, people have recovered abduction memories where all of these species are working together to work on abducted humans.

    At first, they caught around 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your simian ancestors and they left the planet for some hundred years. When they returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors back. Then they left Earth again for some thousands of years and the primitive pre-humans lived together with us without major problems (they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology). The "Illojiim" had taught their mind and enhanced their brain and their body structure and they were now able to use tools and fire. The "Illojiim" returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the evolution speed of certain of your kind.

    You must understand, that you are not the first human civilization on the planet. The first advanced humans (who lived at the same time with less-developed pre-humans, because the "Illojiim" had experimented with different speeds and stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed around 700,000 years ago on this planet (your scientists have not understood this, because they've found only the bones of the pre-humans and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices.) This genetically advanced human breed lived together with us, but they avoided contact with my kind, because the "Illojiim" teachers had warned them with misleading purpose that we are evil beings and that we lie to them.

    Well, after some centuries the aliens decided to extinct their first creation and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better test series and so on and so on. The truth is, that your modern human civilization is not the first on this planet Earth but already the seventh. The buildings of the first breeds are lost, but the fifth civilization was the one, which built the large triangular constructions you call "Egyptian Pyramids" today around 75,000 years ago (your Egyptians just found that large ancient pyramids in the sand and tried not very sucessfuly to built similar constructions) and the sixth civilization was the one, which built the cities which ruins you can find today beneath the sea in the so-called Bimini Area around 16,000 years ago.

    The last creation of the seventh breed—of your series—was done just 8,500 years ago and this is the only creation you can remember and to which your religious writings refer. You rely on archeological and paleonthological artefacts which show you a wrong and short past, but how should you know anything about the six civilizations before. And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and misinterpret the facts. This is partly a programming of your mind and partly pure ignorance. I will tell you in the following only about your creations, because the six previous mankinds are lost and therefore they should not concern you.

    There was a long war between us and the "Illojiim" and also between certain groups of the "Illojiim" themselves, because many of them were of the opinion that the again-and-again creation of human species on this planet makes no real sense. The last battles in this war were fought around 5,000 years ago in orbit and surface. The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground cities but on the other hand we were able to destroy many of their surface installations and bases in space.

    The humans of your series were very frightened when they observed our battles and they wrote it down in form of religious myths (their mind was not able to understand what was really going on). The "Illojiim"—who appeared as "gods" for the sixth and seventh breed—told them that it is a war between good and evil and that they are the good and we are the evil race. This depends certainly on the point of view. It was our planet before they arrived and before they started their evolution project with your kind. In my opinion, it was our right to fight for our planet. It was exactly 4,943 years ago—according to your time scale—that the Elohim left the planet again for unknown reasons (this is a very important date for us, because many of our historians called it a victory). Fact is, that we don't know what had really happened. The "Illojiim" were gone from one day to another, they vanished without a trace together with their ships and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by them.

    The humans were on their own and your civilization developed. Many of us were in contact with certain (more southern) tribes of your species in the coming centuries and we were able to convince some of them that we are not the "Evil" the aliens wanted them to believe. During the time from 4,900 years ago to today, many other alien species arrived on the planet (some of them used the old teaching and programming of your mind and "played" again God for you) but the "Illojiim" themselves never came back. They had left the planet for a duration of some thousand years also earlier, so we expect their return one day in future to end their project or to maybe extinct also the seventh breed, but we don't really know what has happened to them (to answer this question of you in advance).

    Your current civilization doesn't know anything about your real origin, about your real past, about your real world and universe and you know very little about us and our past. And you know nothing about the things to come in the near future. As long as you will not understand and believe my words—I tell you the truth because we are not your enemy—as long there is danger for your species. Your enemies are already here and you have not understood. Open your eyes or you will be in big trouble soon. If you haven't believed anything of the things I've told you before, then you should really believe and remember this.

    Note from Michael Relfe - This "we are not your enemy" plea rings hollow when contrasted with the abductions, rapes, murders, tortures, baby stealings and many more evil things that these predatory slavers have inflicted upon innocent human beings.

    Question: Why do you think I don't believe you?

    Answer: I have a certain feeling that you don't believe me, despite the fact that I'm sitting here in front of you. Everything I have told you in the last two hours is the absolute truth about our world.

    Question: How many alien species are active on earth at the moment?

    Answer: As far as we know 14 species. 11 from this universe, 2 from another "bubble" and 1 very advanced from a very different plain. Don't ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronouncable for you, eight of them are not pronouncable even for us. Most of the species—especially the more advanced—are just studying you as animals and they are not very dangerous for you and for us and we work together with some of them, but three species are hostile, including the one which was in contact with some of your governments and exchanged their technology for copper and other important things and which had betrayed your kind.

    There was and is a "cold war" between two of these hostile races during the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the "winner" in this useless struggle. We expect a more "hot" war between them and you in the near future (I would say in the next 10 or 20 years) and we are worried about that development. In the last time, there were some rumours about a new, fifteenth species which had arrived on Earth just 3 or 4 years ago, but we don't know anything about their intentions and we were not in contact with them until now. Maybe the rumours are wrong.

    Question: What do the hostile alien races want?

    Answer: Various raw materials, including copper for their technology, your water (or better the hydrogen in your water, which is a source of energy in advanced fusion processes) and certain chemical elements in your air.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: She doesn't mention gold. I met a man from South Africa, long before the internet, who told me that there are vast, old gold mines in South Africa of over 20,000 years ago. Reptilians are also meant to like gold, so that they can turn it into white powder gold. It is our understanding that they are addicted to this, and it is one of the reasons why they lost their own psychic abilities, and need to rely on technology now.

    Furthermore, two of the species are also interested in your body, in your human tissue and blood, because their own genetic structure is defective through bad evolution and radiation (as far as we know) and they need intact strings from your kind and from animals to repair their own genetic again and again, but they are not really able to repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA is not fully compatible (my own species is absolutely incompatible with them, so they are not very interested in us) and they try to make more compatible crossbreeds between you and them by use of artificial fertizilations and artificial wombs. We suppose that the coming war between the three races or between you and one or all of them will be fought for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: She never mentions that what they REALLY want are metategenes - those that give humans super advanced metaphysical abilities.

    THE METAGENE FACTOR: Quote from "Blue Planet Project"- a notebook made by a scientist who worked with Greys and Reptilians for the government:

    The Metagene is a biological variant lying dormant in select members of the human race [especially on planet earth], until an instant of extraordinary physical and emotional over-stress activates it. (Apparently a latent self-preservation 'gene' capable of producing seemingly 'superhuman' abilities in earth humans during times of extreme stress or crisis. - Branton) ...

    That's an energochemical, in response to adverse stimuli. A chromosomal combustion takes place, as the Metagene takes the source of biostress, be it chemical, radioactivity, or what ever and turns the potential energoresponse into a catalyst for genetic change. The main focus of the catalyst power is a gland in the middle of the human brain called the PINEAL gland, and the nutrient for increasing the Pineal's action is the adrenaline. The Metagene factor gives the ability of Psionic Power [for better or worse].

    The main interest of the Aliens, especially the Grays, is to understand and control the Metagene for their own race. They try to do this using Biological Experiments to make Hybrids from both humans and aliens. They believe perhaps the MEN FROM PLANET EARTH ARE THE DEADLIEST CREATURES IN THE UNIVERSE. Because ONLY on Earth people are apparently capable of generating the Metagene Factor, which means Natural Psionics ability, "Real Power" "(See www.themarsrecords.com)

    That is why it is mostly people with metaphysical abilities to who get abducted. And why people without metaphysical abilities won't believe in abductions, because:

    (1) CNN & Fox News didn't tell them.

    (2) They have never been abducted.

    (3) They don't have the metaphysical abilities to help them to see what is real, without physical proof (or even with physical proof).

    Question: Is this the reason for the "abductions"?

    Answer: Partly, especially when the aliens took egg and sperm samples from you. Sometimes the abducters belong to another and more advanced race and they just want to study your body and your mind (which is more interesting for some of them then your solid body) as you would study a primitive animal.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: This last bit is true. I was abducted by an unnamed alien species when I was about 5 years old. They were the alien equivalent of butterfly collecters. They took my psychic abilities and stored them as a blue light in a jar. After a clearing session, I got my abilities back, and noticed an improvment in my abilities afterwards. Note- Always ask YAHWEH to send angels to retrieve any parts of your fragmented soul as well as any abilities that have been taken from you.

    As I have said, three alien species are hostile and this means that they do not care for your fate or for your life and people who were "abducted" by them came very rarely back alive. If someone is able to report about an abduction, it means in my opinion that he or she has not met one of the aggressive species or that he or she is a very very lucky human to be alive. Advanced and "friendly" races also took sometimes egg and sperm samples, but for other reasons.

    Question: You've said there are only 14 species active on earth. But why describe people who saw alien beings so many different and bizarre types of them?

    Answer: I think I have already answered this question. As I have said, most of the alien races have much more advanced mind abilities then you or even me (there is just one alien race completely without such abilities). They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this induced "image" has nothing to do with their real appearance. You remember them as normal humans or grey dwarfs or even extremly bizarre animals because they want you to remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget anything about a meeting with them.

    Another example: you can for example remember that you were just in a normal of your human hospitals and that some doctors were examining you and you think not further about what has happened to you (maybe until you discover that there is no hospital in the street where you supposed it) but in fact you were examined by them in one of their laboratories. You can't rely on your mind in this case. They appear in different shapes to you to confuse you and to make so-called abduction witnesses who were able to remember the events—or who believe they are able to remember—ridiculous in the public and as far as we know, they are sucessful. Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know). In addition, not everyone of your "abductees" is one and some of the aliens in their reports are really just imagination or lies.

    Question: How can we protect us against this influence on our mind?

    Answer: I don't know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know. This is partly the guilty of the "Illojiim" themselves, because they had constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms. If you are aware that someone tries to manipulate your mind, you can only concentrate on that suspicion and try to analyze every of your thoughts and memories. Very important: don't close your eyes (this would lead to a different form of brain waves which are more easy to access) and don't sit or lay down to rest. If you stay awake during the first minutes, you can maybe try to filter the other thoughts and waves in your brain and the inducer will give up after some minutes if he or she is not sucessful because it will start to hurt his or her own brain. This is very difficult and certainly painful and it can harm you, so better don't try to resist but it would be the only possibility you have. However, you can try this only with the more weaker species, not with the strong.

    Note from Michael Relfe - Please observe the continued attempt by this reptilian to influence and program the reader to believe that humans are somehow inferior to the reptilian and all other alien races and that humans have no defense against alien mind manipulation. In truth, humans, created in the image of YAHWEH, our heavenly Father and creator of all things, are superior to these predators and are a deadly threat to these alien invaders.

    Question: What do you mean with "one species comes from a very different plain"?

    Answer: Before I can explain that correctly to you, you must be able to understand the universe and this would mean a maybe useless teaching of your mind (including the removal of some barriers) of many weeks and with teaching I mean not only teaching by words. I have said this with your word "plain" or "level" because you have again no better word in your vocabulary and dimension would be in this case absolutely wrong (it's rather wrong even for another "bubble") because a dimension can't exist without plains.

    If you would be a species living in another or over the plain and if you would be furthermore able to enter plains without technology so that your body is not made of that kind of matter you know, then you would be the mightiest being you can imagine. This very advanced race I've mentioned had developed outside of here and they've evolved in fact over billions of years. They would be able to destroy all of you and us and everything with just a single thought. We were in contact with them only three times in our whole history, because their interest in your planet is different from that of all other races. They are definately no danger for you or us.

    Question: What will happen when the war begins?

    Answer: This is difficult to answer. It depends on the enemy race and on their tactics. "War" is not always that primitive thing you humans mean with the word, "War" can be fought on various levels. One possibility they have is the "destruction" of your social system by influence on political leaders, another is the use of advanced weapon systems which can cause earthquakes or vulcanic eruptions or other disasters (including weather disasters) which may seem natural to you. The special fields from copper-fusion I've mentioned earlier are able to have an influence on your global weather. I think they will not attack the planet directly before the human civilization is weak, because even you have possibilities to destroy their craft (but not many). Let me say, that we are not absolutely sure if there will be really such a "hot" war already in the next years. I don't want to talk further about this.

    Question: This is the end of the interview. Do you want to say a last sentence or message?

    Answer: Open your eyes and see. Don't believe only in your wrong history or your scientists or your policians. Some of them know the truth about various things, but they don't inform the public to avoid confusion and panic. I think your species is not as bad as some of my kind think and it would be a pity to observe your end. That's everything I can say. Go through your world with open eyes and you will see—or maybe not. Your kind is ignorant.

    Question: Do you think anyone will believe that this interview is the truth?

    Answer: No, but it is an interesting experiment for my social studies. We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then what has happened after the publication of my message. Maybe there is hope for your kind.

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    7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzW3yDrmfs
    8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF1wU62kcuY
    9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU_4MoNO1CA
    10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdrobYtGHDA
    11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzXg-io-OII
    12. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sGPfOad5_Y
    13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpCdGmBXxis
    14. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiHPB4NPnuM
    15. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv3gafuBjpU
    16. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuAPv7SzZ8
    17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUliQy0aYtY
    18. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CN56Tiq47Y
    19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CN56Tiq47Y
    20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqzpUurtwPw
    21. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHo1P2NWsag
    22. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFzH3goUsc&NR=1


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    I continue to think that science fiction is an important part of this thread. Most of us don't have Cosmic Clearance - so we have to make due with the scraps of information we get fed in the mass media. The higher ups don't want us simple cattle to stampede! "Run Goyim! Run!!" My computer is running very poorly - so I assume that someone doesn't like what I'm posting. Could you guys and gals just monitor me by going online, like everyone else - instead doing all of that fancy back-door Cray Supercomputer BS? I'd really like to have my computer back. Besides, the interdimensional reptilian spies are keeping me under constant watch. I couldn't resist. I know you are just doing your jobs. But really - I mean absolutely no harm. I think that my constant questing, questioning, and speculation is making me a target of various agencies and organizations -- as well as supernaturally -- and I can understand why. I feel absolutely horrible 24/7. I sometimes feel as if I am some sort of a soul of note -- which REALLY makes me a target. Who knows?! I feel VERY oppressed and depressed. I try to think about things which I suspect that very few other people think about. I'm sure I'd be somewhat of a threat if I were more vocal -- but I continue to make good on my promise to not make a big-deal about what I post on the internet. I MIGHT write some sort of science-fiction in the distant future -- but it would be very different than what I post on this site. This is not really a labor of love. It's more a labor of curiosity. I wish to understand how things really are and work. Then I wish to try to make things better. It's somewhat like trying to solve a cold-case or some mystery. I'm pretty cold and detached -- which is sort of creepy and scary. It almost seems like 'old-hat' from a previous incarnation. When I spoke with the Ancient Egyptian Deity it seemed as if we knew each other -- going way, way back. It was very strange. I don't know who they really were -- but they were unlike anyone I had ever encountered. They were NOT just another Human Being. I liked them on one level -- but on another level they creeped me out and scared the hell out of me. I haven't spoken with them for over a year -- and the last time we spoke they were not very friendly. Something seemed to have drastically changed. It seemed as if they had plans for me -- which didn't work out -- so then I seemed to become a bothersome liability.


    Lacerta File II

    (Translation by Doug Parrish)

    I once again reaffirm that the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction. It was composed from three original tape recordings which were made on April 24, 2000 with a tape recorder during my second interview with the reptilian creature known as "Lacerta". At Lacerta's request, the original text of 31 pages was revised and shortened up to deal with some questions and answers. Some existing questions were partially shortened or amended. It was even undertaken to extract message and significance from it. This part of the interview, either not mentioned or not mentioned completely in the transcript, deals primarily with personal issues, paranormal demonstrations, the social system of the reptilian species and alien technology and physics.

    The reason for the shifting of the date and time of the second meeting was a possible observation and surveillance of my own person after the publication of the first transcript. Although everything was attempted on the advice of Lacerta to keep my identity a secret, just two days after the dissemination of the document abroad, various unusual events took place.

    Please don't think that I am paranoid; however, I believe that the publication of the interview has drawn either official attention or the attention of some organization to me. Up until this time, I usually regarded people who believed that they were being followed by the state to be nothing more than jokers. But now I have begun to revise my ideas on that since events in January.

    It began with a failure of my telephone for several hours. When the phone became operational once again, there were quiet echoes and strange clicking and whirring sounds when I made calls. A defect could (ostensibly) not be found anywhere. Overnight, important data disappeared from the hard drive in my computer. The testing program reported "defective sectors" where strangely enough there were only data which dealt with illustrations and completed textual material from the interview. These "defective sectors" also contained material of a paranormal nature in the field of my research. (Fortunately, the material was also stored on floppies.)

    In addition I discovered by pure chance some hidden data in a likewise hidden directory index. The name which appeared on the data and the directory index was "E72UJ." A friend, who is a computer expert, could not make anything of this designation, and when I was about to show it to him, the directory index had disappeared. One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open, my TV set was running—and I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off.

    A minivan with British markings and the imprint of a Europe-wide supermarket chain parked in front of my house. I noticed the same minivan again on several occasions traveling at a distance behind my car, even when I visited the town of ...... 65 kilometers away. When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again. I never saw anyone get into or out of the car. A knock on the door of the vehicle and on the tinted windows caused no reaction of any kind. After about two weeks, the minivan disappeared again. When I informed E.F. personally about these events, he suggested that I change the place and date of the meeting in order to assure our own and Lacerta's safety. The meeting took place on April 27, 2000 in another isolated location. It was unobserved as far as I can determine.

    Once again, all of this may sound strange and paranoid, like a fantasy from a cheap science fiction film; however, I can only repeat to and assure the reader once again: all of this is the unadulterated truth. Believe my words or don't believe them. These things have happened and they will continue to happen, whether you believe it or not. Until it is too late. Our civilization is in danger.

    Ole. K. – May 3, 2000

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    Transcript of the Interview (Shortened Version)

    Date: April 27, 2000

    [Comment by Ole. K.: The meeting began with an appraisal of diverse questions and opinions which I had gotten from readers of the first transcript in anonymous fashion through distribution from my trustworthy friends. Some of these opinions—all together there were over 14 pages of paper—contained comments shaped by everything from a radically religious to a fanatical tendency to welcome contact with a reptilian species. Some of these comments contained stereotypical phrases like "Servants of Hell" or "Species of the Evil One". I don't want to go into any kind of detailed description here since I don't want pass on further any false and radical realm of thought.]

    Question: When you read these religious and animosity-ridden comments here, what do you think and feel then? Is the relationship between your species and ours really shaped from that kind of total negation?

    Answer: Does it amaze you that I am not completely angered by that? I had fully expected those kinds of extreme reactions. The programming for the utter negation of another species (especially the reptilian species) as in your own case is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses. This ancient conditioning stems from the days of your third artificial creation and, biologically speaking, is passed down as an information genome from generation to generation.

    Note from Michael Relfe - "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Genesis 3:1 KJV

    The identification of my species with the powers of darkness was a primary intention of the Illojiim, who liked seeing themselves in the role of the powers of light—something which in and of itself represents a paradox, since that humanoid species was extremely sensitive to your sunlight. In case you were expecting me to act offended, I guess I'll have to partially disappoint you. These obscure intentions are not really your fault; you are simply following for the most part what you have inherited from your ancestors.

    It is indeed actually somewhat disappointing that many of you develop no especially strong individual self-conscience, for this would help you to overcome the conditioning. As I already said, we were in direct contact in the last several centuries with some of your more primitive human tribes; these tribes had themselves succeeded in breaking through the old "creation programming;" they were able to meet us without tension, hate and total rejection. Apparently many of your modern civilized individuals are not in a position to think on their own, but rather let themselves be guided by programming and religion (which is also a manifestation of that ancient programming and part and parcel of the plan of the Illojiim). Therefore, comments of that kind I'd sooner regard as amusing than irritating; they simply confirm in large measure for me my suppositions about your defined mode of thinking.

    Note from Michael Relfe - History is littered with the murder, rape, torture and enslavement of entire races and civilizations degraded and destroyed by the worship and control of these reptilian predators. It is understandable that they fear humans and hide in the earth like bugs. They have much to answer for, and YAHWEH will judge them and those that ally themselves with them.

    Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7 KJV

    Question: Therefore, you are not the "Species of the Evil One" as was remarked earlier?

    Answer: How am I supposed to answer that? Your people still think according to a simple and completely inappropriate scheme of generalizations. Simply put, there are absolutely NO purely evil species. There exist in every terrestrial and extraterrestrial species alike both good and evil individuals; it's even true of your own people; but there is NO such thing as an absolutely evil species. This conception is really very primitive. You people have believed from time immemorial what you are supposed to believe—what was foreseen for you to believe by your creators.

    Every well-known species, even the more highly developed ones, consists of a great number of individual consciousnesses (at least a portion of the consciousness is individual, even though there are connecting fields of consciousness); these self-sufficient spirits are able to decide freely for themselves a lifestyle which is either good or evil, according to your own human standards.

    It depends again on the respective point of view; your people are not necessarily in a position to judge whether the deeds of a much more highly developed species are good or evil, because you stand at a lower observation point, from which an assessment is not possible.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: This is the typical garbage-talk of a suppressive person. Suppressive people have a messed up mind that can't recognise that what they do is evil. A good person is constructive and has a conscience. They respect the freedom of beings that are not hurting them. A 'bad' person is destructive and has no conscience. Not that the reptilian DID NOT answer the question.

    Your simple words "good" and "evil" are in any case examples of a tendency towards generalization; in my language there are many concepts for the various shades of meaning of individual behaviors in comparison to the norms of a society.

    Even those extraterrestrial species which are inclined to act with antagonism towards you are not "Species of the Evil One," even though they operate negatively with respect to your own race. They do this for their own reasons and do not regard themselves as evil;

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Again, no suppressive person recognises evil. Their mind is warped. Plus they have zero sense of responsibility.

    where your structured way of thinking more linear and more focused as theirs is, then you would also behave in such a fashion. The attitude of a species towards other kinds of existence naturally depends very heavily on its respective structured way of thinking; each species sets its own priorities. To classify that as "good" or "evil" is really quite primitive, for the survival of any species argues for many varieties, among them your own, as well as for even the most varied of the worst or negatively-directed deeds. I won't even exclude my own kind in this regard, for there have been certain occurrences in the past which I don't personally welcome, but about which I would also not like to go into detail. None of these occurrences have happened in the last 200 years of your time scale. But please note the following: there are NO absolutely good and there are NO absolutely bad species, because each and every species always consists of individuals.

    Question: In the letters that I got, there was often the question, whether you could go into any greater detail regarding the advanced physics that you commented on last time. Many people said, your words made no sense. For example, how do UFOs function, how do they fly, how do they perform the maneuvers that they do?

    Answer: I ought to explain that to people? That's not all that simple. Let me think about it for a minute. I always have to use very simple words in order to make clear to you the basic principles of a higher kind of science. Let's try this: You have to be clear about some fundamental facts. The very first thing is that you must divide up the conception of the physical world because each existence consists of different layers; let's say for simplicity's sake that it consists of a material illusion and a sphere of influence. {TRANSLATOR'S NOTE: No legitimate translation exists for this word 'Feldraum'; "Feld" means "field," "Raum" means "space, room, expanse." Therefore, I'm translating it as "sphere of influence."}

    Certain physical conditions are associated only with the realm of the material {as in 'concrete'}, while other and more complicated conditions are associated only with the sphere of influence of the material world. Your conception of the physical world is based upon a simple material illusion. That illusion is further subdivided into three elementary or basic conditions of matter. A fourth and very important condition also exists, which you simply pay attention to more or less as you choose; it is the one bordering on the sphere of influence or plasma realm.

    For you, the theory for a controlled transformation or an elevation of the frequency of matter and the stable existence of this fourth aggregate condition of matter is not very common, or it exists at a very primitive level. (As an aside, there are simply five states of matter, but the post-plasma state would really be going too far and it would only serve to confuse you. Besides, it is not necessary for an understanding of the basic theory; it is connected with diverse phenomena which you would characterize as paranormal.)

    Now, back to the essentials: Plasma...now, with plasma I don't mean just "hot gas"—as the concept is generally simplified by your people—but rather I mean a higher aggregate condition of matter. The plasma state of matter is a special form of matter which lies between its real existence and the sphere of influence, that is, a complete loss of mass and pure accretion of energy of various form whenever matter is "pushed or shoved." {NOTE: No explanation was given for the use of the word "pushed, shoved" as used in this context. Your guess is as good mine.}

    The fourth state of matter is very important for certain physical conditions which can be used for example to...how should I express this to you...generate antigravity. (That's a rather strange human word and not really correct, but you ought to understand it better this way.) Essentially, in the world of real physics, there are no bipolar forces, but rather only "observer dependent reflective behavior" of a single, large unified force at different levels.With antigravity or the displacement of gravitational characteristics into levels, one can, for example, cause apparently solid matter to levitate; this method is employed partly by us and by extraterrestrials as well as a means of propulsion for their UFOs.

    You people are moving on a really primitive level towards a similar principle for your secret military projects, but since you have more or less stolen this technology (and it was later falsely passed on to you intentionally by the extraterrestrials), you lack the real physical understanding; as a result, you have to struggle with problems of instability and radiation with your "UFOs". According to my information, there have been a great number of deaths of your people because of intense radiation and field disturbances. Don't you agree, this is also an example of the business regarding the question of "good" and "evil"? You people play with unknown forces

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: We agree.

    and thereby accept the death of colleagues of your own kind, for they are dying for a greater cause, namely, for the advancement of your technology, which as a result is being put into place once again for the purpose of war, i.e., for negative pursuits.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: Again, we agree.

    Now, one can give you the benefit of the doubt, that only the least number of your kind have any knowledge about these alien projects which are—as you explain it—top secret. It was told to you that the higher the ordinal or ranking number of basic matter, the simpler the heightening of the condition, but that is only partially correct. If you can't circumvent these powers, then you're better off not attempting it. But your kind has always been ignorant and has from time immemorial tried to play around with forces which you have not even understood. Why would that ever change?

    You remember this business of copper fusion? By means of the fluctuation at the right angle with the induced radiation field, copper is fused with other elements. (The illusion of matter is fused, the fields in the sphere of influence overlap each other, but the main force would be reflected by that process and would assume a quasi-bipolar character.) The resulting connection and the field would therefore not be stable in the normal condition of matter and unsuited for tasks. As a result, the entire field spectrum is shifted to a higher plasma-like condition, whereby the spectrum comes together with this harsh shifting to the opposite pole side—the word is NOT correct—of the force field and it resembles quite closely a gravitational shift.

    This shifting causes a "tilting" of the repulsing quasi-bipolar force, which now no longer flows to the interior of the force field, but rather flows partly to the exterior of the field. The result is an inter-stratifying reflective force field which is very difficult to modulate within certain technical boundaries in relation to its own characteristics. It can also carry out a multiplicity of tasks, as for example, causing massive flying objects to be levitated and maneuvered. It can also exert a camouflage function in the realm of electromagnetic radiation as well as manipulate temporal sequences of events—indeed only to very limited extent—and other things as well. Are you familiar with your "quantum tunnel effect"?

    Even the amplitude equalizations among genuine matter can be achieved with one of those kinds of fields if the frequency and the distance from the plane of the field are high enough. Unfortunately, the whole thing that I have explained to you in your words has come out to be rather primitive, I'm afraid. It sounds rather strange and certainly impossible for your comprehension, but perhaps this simple explanation can be of some use to you in helping you to understand. But then again, maybe not.

    Question: Is there a scientific substantiation for paranormal powers, as for example with your powers of thought?

    Answer: Yes. In order to explain that, one has to acknowledge the physical reality of the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. I'll try to do it...wait just a second...you are going to have to separate yourself mentally from the illusion that that which you see is the true nature of the universe. It is, at best, the surface of a side. Imagine for yourself that all the matter here—you, this table, this pencil, this technical device, this paper—does not really exist, but that it is rather only the result of a field oscillation and a concentration of energy.

    All matter that you see, every creature, every planet and star in this universe, has an "information-energy equivalent" in the sphere of influence which is located on a main field—the general level {of things}. Now, there is not only one level, but several. Last time, I had mentioned that highly-developed species which is capable of changing levels (which is something completely different from the simple bubble changing, for bubbles are a part of each and every level). Do you understand? Dimensions, as you call them, are a part of a solitary bubble, bubbles or universal foam are a part of a level, and levels are layers in the sphere of influence, while the sphere of influence, acting in the capacity of single physical size, is essentially unending; it is composed of innumerable information-energy layers and general levels. There are in the sphere of influence no null-levels; all are the same, but they are separated by means of their energy conditions. I notice that I am confusing you now. I think I ought to stop with this explanation.

    Question: No, please continue. How do concrete paranormal powers arise?

    Answer: Well, OK then. Let's try something simpler. Again, it is not completely correct, but let's begin in this manner: Tangible matter on this side is mirrored in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} as a field with distinct layers. These layers contain information, as an example, about the simple structure of matter or the string frequency, but also there is stored information stemming from the development of matter. Are you familiar with the human concept of "morphogenetic fields?" One part of the layer could be designated as such.

    Now there is still another intermediary layer for which you unfortunately have no human concept, since the theory is not common in human thinking. Let's call it a "para-layer," for this layer is mainly responsible for everything which you call PSI and paranormal and which lies outside the boundaries of your primitive science. This para-layer lies between the layers of matter and the morphogenetic layers of a field in the sphere of influence. It can actively integrate with both. Your body, for example, is mirrored as a field in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. That doesn't mean that it does not also exist here as well—as flesh, blood, bones—in the form of matter strings or atoms, but not only that.

    Existence is always a duality. Some layers of the field contain simple information about the solid matter of your body and its frequency, while other layers {contain information about} your spirit, your consciousness or, speaking from a human-religious point of view, your soul. Awareness or consciousness in this case is a simple energy matrix, divided into different layers of your field in the sphere of influence—nothing more, nothing less. Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post-plasma {the fifth form of matter}. With the necessary physical knowledge and the corresponding technology, the consciousness/awareness matrix, or soul, can also be separated from its field of rest. It can, despite its removal, continue to exist in a self-sufficient manner for a certain amount of time. That has the strange occult name of "soul robbing." But above all, we're talking about science here, not about magic or dark forces.

    [Comment by Ole. K.: The "soul robbing" was mentioned in one of the radical, religiously-motivated comments in connection with the reptilian species.]

    But back to your Question: Creatures with more powerful mental powers can have a direct influence on the para-layer by means of their consciousness/awareness fields. Now this layer is not limited only to the individual, but rather as a part of a general information layer—you could call it in a prosaic sense the community soul—that is connected with all animate and inanimate matter and all consciousness which exist on this main level.

    The biological cause for these abilities lies on the side of matter, by the way, in the pituitary gland, which always is in the position to generate the frequencies to actively control the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. Even you people could theoretically do this; however, you are solidly blocked in these things. As I have said, the para-layer can interact with mind as well as with matter. For example, if I decide to use my mental powers once more in order to move this pencil, then, simply said, I imagine in my mind how my consciousness/awareness expands/amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post-plasma to the pencil.

    In the sphere of influence this causes simultaneously an automatic command from the consciousness/awareness layer to the para-layer to interact with the matter layer of the pencil. Since the para-layer is not confined to the body, it is not even a problem that the pencil lies over there, for I can unerringly reach it, even without moving my matter body. Post-Plasma on this side, para-layer on the other. I have control over the pencil and the interaction brings the matter field of the pencil to the point where it changes in the manner in which it moves, for example.

    [Comment by Ole K.: I certify that the pencil mentioned above abruptly at that very moment jumped into the air to a height of 20 cm and then fell back to the surface of the table. The sound is clearly heard on the recording tape. No one visibly had touched that pencil.]

    Question: That is fascinating. Which kinds of paranormal activities can one generate with that?

    Answer: All kinds. Everything that you call paranormal. As I said, this special layer lies in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} between the morphogenetic information layers and the matter layers and can interact with respect to both sides. That is to say, it can be interacted with solid matter as well as with mind or mental information, wherewith we can achieve everything that is generally designated as telekinesis and telepathy.

    The "connection absorption" with another consciousness/awareness is generally separate in the procedure from the simple influence of matter, since different consciousness/awareness fields work with different oscillations. A consciousness/awareness that sends or a consciousness/awareness that listens must first adapt itself to the other mind exactly, before any access is possible. Most species also have chances to block the alien access, but you people don't have this.

    The following is generally valid: the stronger the paranormal abilities of a species, the simpler the adaptation and the access. Our own abilities are not so powerfully developed; therefore, first we have to learn specifically alien mind influence in order to use our mimicry, for example—where mimicry is actually quite simple in your minds due to the implanting of the on/off switch. Some of these abilities are also partially inherited; mother and child of my kind as an example are attuned exactly during the first months of life—partially also in the egg covering in the expectant mother—and communicate telepathically.

    In order to influence you people, we need a certain amount of time for practicing, despite your simple structure. Therefore, it is forbidden, for example, for adults of my kind before the "Age of Enlightenment" to come to the surface of the Earth. (That term is synonymous, along with other things, with full physical strength.) In the case of not fully developed abilities, the danger of discovery by you would be too great. By the way, there are of course numerous secret teachings about the real possibilities which can give one these abilities, but I really don't know anything exact about that.

    Whenever an alien mind ought to be influenced, then there are some generally valid steps, which are set into motion by other extraterrestrial species. First and foremost, the alien oscillation must be felt, something generally that is done automatically by the brain, i.e., for the one the field oscillation, for the other the quasi-electrical brain waves here in the normal space {which matter inhabits}. That is not especially difficult. After that, one simply probes for the other consciousness/awareness in the mind with a post-plasma manifestation, the sphere of influence {Feldraum} reacts and the connection is there.

    Now one can read out information from the first one and record the desired information to the second one in the correct location. You asked me last time whether you people have the opportunity to protect yourselves against this influence, and I told you that only an awake and concentrated mind had any kind of a chance to withstand it. In this state of mind the oscillations change very abruptly and access becomes complicated; more precisely, it can come as a painful recoil. Whenever you close your eyes, then the field becomes "flat," and alien access {to the mind} is immediately possible and without restriction. In terms of your chances against a more highly developed species, you have none at all. They are able to adjust the oscillations faster than you can change. I could even demonstrate it on yourself, but you were really horrified and confused the last time, so we'll just leave it at an explanation.

    Note from Michael Relfe - If this female reptilian is providing correct information, her explanation of projectional mind control brings to mind some further countermeasures.

    The predatory alien requires a signal reception or "sampling" of the oscillation created by the mind of the target. If the human target were to specifically change the quantum matrix of their brain and mind so that those signals could not be received by the predator, then the "mimicry" would not function. Remember that it is not necessary for us to understand the process because YAHWEH is actually doing all the work. HE will make sure you are doing it correctly. So please try this new prayer procedure and when you start to see the reptilians, please let us know.

    This explanation presumably sounds to you like—as you say—something esoteric or from the occult or magic. The reason for that is simply that you lack the basic understanding for seeing the background reasons. All paranormal phenomena have a purely scientific origination. None of this has anything to do with supernatural powers. We grow up with this kind of knowledge, we know how one makes use of these powers, and where they come from. We are acquainted with theory and practice. You are not. Therefore, you really don't understand what happens in your world—you see only one side of existence, not the other (I mean here both that are physical). Everything paranormal is dualistic, and it exists in the space that matter inhabits as well as in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. To be explained...it can only be explained by the acceptance of the latter, because the sphere of influence {Feldraum} is the basis. I would welcome an end to the scientific questions since you really aren't grasping them anyway. We're wasting more or less valuable time by doing this.

    Note from Michael Relfe - It is quite possible that the explanations provided by the reptilian female are accurate. Much paranormal phenomena involves demonic activity and you can be assured that demons can manipulate these energy layers if they need to.

    Question: Only one last question. At our first meeting in December, you made it quite clear that you didn't want to discuss scientific and paranormal concerns. Why the openness now?

    Answer: The last time I saw really no necessity in overburdening you with facts of that kind (and now you are obviously overburdened). Therefore, I had preferred only to mention these topics in a peripheral sense. Apparently, however, some of my performances today have set you to thinking about your world, something that can't be all bad. And by the way, your human scientists will tend to regard my comments as "humbug." And so I see no great danger in spreading this information widely. No one will pay much attention to it. By the way, the words of people who have characterized me as a "Creature of Evil" have their basis in the belief in occult powers and magic—both of which things DO NOT exist.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: HA!!! I have a video for you Lacerta. Please watch "Interview with an Ex-Vampire". (Also available free on google video). Black Magick is powered by demons or other higher beings. I don't think that is 'science". It is very real, very powerful, very evil and very dangerous. Again, is she brainwashed, just plain ignorant or giving us misinformation?

    There is no magic, only highly developed science, and everything that you label as "magic" is only a part of science. If you would only comprehend that, then you would be a step ahead in your development. My openness on this issue ends here. Pose other questions, please.

    Question: Good. Let's talk about UFOs. Can you explain to me how our governments came into possession of UFO material to the point that they could start their own projects? Did it have anything to do with the "Roswell Incident?"

    Answer: Yes, but that incident was not the first one. I am no historian, I am studying only your current behavior, so my knowledge about those events in your history is presumably not very extensive. I will try to explain to you what I know about those things which happened at that time. Let me think about it for a second. In the years 1946 to 1953 in your time scale, there were five cases where extraterrestrial ships crashed to the surface of the Earth. In that crash which you call the "Roswell Incident," there was not only one alien ship involved, but two that crashed after a collision in different parts of the land in the west—the one you call the USA. (You have to know that the ships of this particular species can remain levitating in the air for a particular period of time even though they are damaged; that accounts for the spatial difference {in their crash locations}.) These were indeed not the first crashes, but by that time the second and the third. Another ship had crashed in 1946, but it was destroyed beyond usability.

    One thing first before the explanation: it certainly sounds ridiculous to you that such highly developed extraterrestrial ships simply crash, and that a relatively large number did so in a relatively short amount of time. The explanation for that is likewise more than strange, but it is correct. It does not lie in the ship's drive itself, but rather in the direction of the field to your planet. This species that we are discussing—and it was always in this time period that this species used a disk-shaped craft—used a propulsion system which ran according to the normal principle of fusion, to be sure, but one that at that time employed a more than unconventional method for field alignment.

    This method had various advantages but also disadvantages. The repelling field must of course lie in the absolute correct angle to the surface of the Earth. This species used an alignment technology in their ships, with which the field locked into place all points of the Earth's magnetic field. Now at that time this species had just arrived on the earth and their point of origin lay on a planet with a more stable magnetic field, for which they had developed and aligned their drive. The magnetic field of the Earth is not really all that stable; it is subject to cyclical variations and it forms field eddies under unfavorable conditions. Whenever a ship with one of those kinds of drives gets into a field fluctuation or into an eddy that is too strong, then for a short time the repelling field can no longer align itself correctly and the ship glides uncontrolled on its flight path.

    The drive is operating correctly, to be sure, but the field fluctuates in all directions and because of that, the ship can crash. In the case from 1947 which you addressed, it is my understanding that one of the ships got caught in a fluctuation, its field linked up unintentionally with that of its squadron leader and it collided with another ship whereby both of them were heavily damaged. The cause for the magnetic fluctuation at that time was probably an electrical disturbance brought about by a weather event. Both ships crashed as a result; one of them fell near the collision point, the other a hundred of your kilometers or so distant. All occupants were killed in the impact. The thin hull structure of that kind of disk craft is in and of itself not very stable, since those disks have not been designed for crashes as well as for flight in a field where there are exterior forces at work.

    Now, your human military collected the individual pieces at first until they discovered the whole ships with the dead creatures aboard. Immediately they classified everything as "Top Secret" and brought them to their military bases in order to analyze the drive. The secret endeavor was to set the alien technology in place later against evil enemies of that great country. That is as primitive as it is ridiculous. I believe I remember—I don't want to specify exactly your date—that it was probably between 1949 and 1952 that there was a rather bad accident during some research being done on one of the wrecks. According to what I heard—what members of my species were told by members of that government—it resulted in an unintentional activation of one of the drive's components in the unshielded condition. As a result, for a very short period of time—how should I phrase this—there was an unchecked shift of the environment to a plasma-like condition, which on the other hand, through a very, very unfortunate accident, caused an overturning of the general power field into a magnetic pulse of immense power.

    Do you have any idea what kind of an effect a plasma-magnetic jolt has, when it comes into contact with an organism? No, how should you know that. Of course you don't. Disturbance in the structure of the field and bioelectric feedback. Imagine, if you will, a human body which is engulfed in bright flames for 3 or 4 of your days. Those flames apparently do not go out and they burn the body right down to its last constituents. Well, then you have an approximate impression of what happened. I think that 20 or 30 of your scientists were killed in that lab.

    Two further crashes occurred in 1950 and 1953 in the water catchment area of the American continent. Those ships were able to be recovered from the crashes relatively intact. (The one in 1953, as I remember, even had an intact drive core. It was by means of that device that you saw for the first time that you had understood the entire concept fully incorrectly and that you had reconstructed it fully incorrectly. Even today you still don't have it right.) That species, which had built the ships in the first place—a species which I, by the way, count among those who are unfriendly towards you—was naturally worried about the investigation of their own technology by your kind. They did not want, however, at that early point in time, to begin direct conflict with you, and so they chose the diplomatic path and came into contact with that government during your 1960's.

    Of course, they did not divulge the real reasons for their being here—copper, hydrogen, air—but rather they pretended to be curious "researchers" and offered to show people the functioning principle of the ships whereby they would expect in return some "favors." Simple-minded as you are, you of course agreed to it...and were deceived. You gave them raw materials, you gave them secured locations for their bases, you gave them access to your most secret defense data, you gave them access to your DNA and much more—and all just to quench your greed for power and information.

    The alien species of course quickly noticed that they were dealing with simple-minded creatures, and they gave you false and inferior information about their technology so that they receive much more out of the collaboration than your kind do. For example, they gave you information that the drive can only be constructed with unstable elements of a higher ranking number, but they withheld the information that the field drive can be constructed with various modifications to work as well with stable elements of a lower periodic number, and generally, that's the way it's done. Through these half truths they made you dependent on the synthesizing of high {numbered} elements, and thereby renewed by their own technology. Their clues to the construction of your "UFOs" were laid out in such a way that the solution to old problems caused new problems to arise simultaneously. They never told you the complete truth, but always built in again and again clever lies, which later lead to technical problems—and to your dependence on them.

    In the last years of your 1970's and your early 1980's, it finally came down to various events between the alien species and that human government—I don't want to go into detail here since there is much that even I am not exactly sure of. The whole thing lay in the context with some new, or better said, the old technical problems with your own self-constructed ships whose camouflage and drive partially failed to function in test flights in the open. Because of that, the function of secrecy was threatened. Your military and your politicians slowly—very slowly—came to the conclusion after more than 20 years of this that they had been deceived by that alien species.

    Multitudinous incongruities and the overstepping of bounds of the treaties by both sides finally led to an altercation between you and the extraterrestrials, which culminated in the lift-off of three of the alien aerial objects through a special—how do you say it?—EMP {electromagnetic pulse} weapon and a military skirmish at one of their underground installations. As a consequence of these attacks, the alien species ultimately withdrew from all contact with you and was understandably more than angered about your kind. Therefore, I count these extraterrestrials among the three groups who are hostile towards you, and while the other two are more occupied with their own business, among them waging a cold war for dominance on your planet, your old "friends" and partners are preparing to supply themselves finally with the sole and absolute dominance over raw materials and human DNA. At the moment it is probably true that they lack some of the technical possibilities and the large amount of forces which they need in order to achieve their goals directly. In spite of that, we are counting on negative actions—possibly ever of a more subtle kind—against you in the next few years or decades.

    Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

    Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies.

    Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you—even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place—defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

    Of course we would also ask for help when it became clear that your old partners were ganging up on you. Some members of that human government are fully aware of our existence—also partially owing to an old religious basis. For example, there is a gigantic partially underground building in the capital which is totally dedicated to my species and that also has a direct approach to an elevator shaft and to an underground system. In this building partial meetings have taken place and do take place between us and humans. We have passed on information to you in the last few years; according to what I know, we will keep ourselves as far away from the conflict as we can. You ought to learn to solve your own problems yourselves or to become intelligent enough never to create those kinds of situations. What will come and who will possibly place themselves on your side, only time will tell. I really do not want to make any indications about that.

    Question: I have here 5 prints of different UFOs, which claim to show UFOs. Can you take a look at the pictures and tell me in which of them actual extraterrestrial aerial craft can be seen?

    Answer: I can try it. You pose many questions to me today which even I cannot answer unequivocally. Don't overestimate my knowledge, I'm no expert in alien technology and the construction of extraterrestrial ships. To be sure, there are mostly some technical details and peculiarities about genuine "UFOs," with whose help one can easily differentiate them from natural phenomena or human forgeries. You falsify sometimes the pattern of genuine ships; therefore, it is not so easy simply with absolute certainty to identify an object. I'll try it. Show me the photos.

    [Comment by Ole K.: She considered the pictures respectively for only a couple of seconds and then sorted out photos 1, 3 and 5.]

    These three pictures here are obvious counterfeits or erroneous identifications. In the one picture, it certainly seems to me that a real existing ship of an alien species was adapted for a small model here. It lacks important characteristics which are tied in with the technically- and physically-associated field. Generally speaking, a picture is all the more a fake, the clearer the outline and the colors are, because a levitating ship is generally hidden in a shifted-field condition that even distorts the colors or the forms according to alignment. It might perhaps sound strange, but hazy and spectrally-shifted photos are sometimes to be interpreted as an indication for a possibly authenticity.

    By the way, this object is floating above the water. If it were a genuine ship, we would have to see in any case either a trough or a swell on the surface. Since the surface is flat, it is obviously not a genuine ship. In my opinion, none of these three pictures show genuine objects in flight or UFOs. Here in this picture I see above all no artificial object in flight; it seems much more to deal with only a light reflex in your simple optical cameras. You really ought to be intelligent enough not to fall for a mix-up like that. When your general public chases counterfeits and frauds for a long time, then they will presumably discover too late, what is really going on in front of them in their atmosphere.

    PHOTO 2: Albiosc, France, 1974

    This one seems to be genuine, at least it displays the necessary characteristics. I would assign it at first glance to an alien species who have been visiting your planet for the last 35 years or so. The object itself is metallic and disk-shaped; certainly it is distorted in form and color by means of a field effect. These four white and very long "processes" on the underside of the ship itself portray a kind of quasi-gravitational light manipulation, i.e., the universal force field is being shifted in the direction of a simulated gravity. Actually, it is not a genuine light (it is mostly not a genuine light whenever you see illuminating "UFOs") but a special strongly charged form field which manifests itself in the space that matter inhabits as a quasi-light.

    The reason for the activation of this special high-energy system in an atmosphere is not completely clear to me; it's possible that it is a kind of investigating or influencing of the environment. In any case, it is terribly careless of that species to allow this technology to be photographed by humans. Well, I guess that most of you just plain don't understand it, and those who do will not say anything about it to the general public.

    PHOTO 4: Petit Rechain, Belgium, 1990

    This is in fact a genuine aerial object; it is in no way extraterrestrial. Triangular aerial objects in flight are simply not used by alien species, or not in this form, at least. That streamlined kind of form is a human concept. It is one of your own secret military projects that you build with the help of immature alien technology—technology that was handed over to you by the extraterrestrials during the 1960's and the 1970's. Generally, the form of the hull for a genuine extraterrestrial ship is of no consequence, for inside the field itself there are no exterior forces that have any effect there; in general, the ships have a rounded off form and they are built without hard edges—as a disk or a cylinder—so that the field can flow more easily. Your projects decree that along with the alien drive field there also be a conventional jet engine system; therefore, they are always triangular and built thus with streamlining in order to be steerable with this primitive recoil principle.

    In the example here the ship glides above all on its genuine field drive. Do you see the distortion and the quasi-light in the rotating cylinders? That is an unmistakable indication for the authenticity of the photo. But why, you might ask, are there 4 cylinders? That's unusual—even the interval seems to be incorrect. The coloring is very dark and the interior optical distortion is very noticeable. Presumably a reconstruction of the original system by your scientists. Since the alien species has just not given you any more information since the disagreement, they are rebuilding the systems singlehandedly without actually being able to understand what kind of dangerous thing they are doing there. This construction does not make the system better, only more unstable. Both of the forward cylinders are too close to each other; they will definitely flow into each other. The color shows me a powerful residual radiation; it was probably the case that high elements were used again as customary for the shifting. It is in any case very dangerous to be unshielded in the vicinity of the field. Did the person who took the photo display any kind of radiation and burn damage?

    Question: I don't know. Where do these military "UFOs" come from? From the United States?

    Answer: Yes. I think generally that's true. From the western continent.

    Question: Why then do they fly over thickly populated areas of Europe? This photo comes from Belgium. That doesn't make any sense. Can you explain?

    Answer: Why is it that ONLY I am able to explain strange human deeds? It's possible that these are long-distance tests or tests with the electromagnetic camouflage systems. The old enemy of the American nation is on this side of the world, so why shouldn't they test here? At home they've had enough time to have had their ships crossing back and forth. Maybe they have aroused too much observation there. With one of those kinds of unstable field structures—as your photo indicates—I consider it somewhat improbable that that ship is capable of making a flight of that length over the ocean. It's possible there is a test station here on your continent. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about it.

    Question: Many readers of the first transcript have posed the question how your original contact with E.F. came about. I already know the story from your narratives, but could you repeat it here once again for this volume and for the new transcript?

    Answer: Of course. Now, the story began about two of your years ago here in Sweden. I have been strongly interested in your species and your behavior since my youth; I had already studied your literature at that time, as well as possible. (Naturally, it is not easy in my homeland to come into possession of human books, but since my group or family stands in a higher ranking order, I was able to gather some material together and sometimes to speak with others of my kind who have already been in contact with you.) I was really very curious about your species and as soon as I was allowed to come to the surface, I attempted to assemble more information immediately; above all, it was expressly forbidden for me to commence direct contact with humans because in my position at that time, there existed no necessity for doing so.

    It was in your year 1998, when I was on my way further north from here in the remote forests in the vicinity of the entrance to my world and was looking for biological specimens, which we use in order to watch over environmental pollution and destruction of your flora and fauna statistically by your own kind. At the time, I was already on the return path to the entrance—we can even orient ourselves more easily, by the way, through our senses to the Earth's magnetic field—and already in the vicinity of the large lake, when much to my surprise I came across a cabin in the woods.

    In this cabin I sensed a human consciousness/awareness. It was E.F. Actually, I had no permission for contact with another species, but by the same token I had set in place my mimicry capability quite successfully prior to this—even with larger groups of you (I had never ever come across a human being when I was alone). Now, let's call it primitive curiosity; I wanted to talk with the person in this cabin and so I knocked on the door. E. opened the door and we got into an interesting conversation. His language was not quite yet common at that time for me, but it's not all that hard to learn a new language when one can read the information in the consciousness/awareness of the opposite individual. I simply told him that I came from a foreign country in the east. Of course at the time, he did not really "recognize" who I was; he was totally convinced that he was talking with a creature of his own kind, although it was simply only a mimicry image.

    Since my assignment anyway had as its goal an investigation of this terrain which was to last for several days, I visited him in this span of time three times as a human person. At first we talked mainly about really ordinary things; later we got into religious and physical topics. He seemed to be impressed by my knowledge, and I was likewise impressed with his clear thoughts and his—for a human being—well displayed personality structure and his own opinions. You really like giving yourselves over completely to a public opinion or conditioning, as for example, "reptilian species are evil" and stuff like that.

    I steered the conversation in this direction, and E.F. said something to the effect that he believed in alien species and that they did not have to necessarily be evil, but perhaps only different than his kind are.

    Note by Stephanie Relfe: We agree.

    That pleased me. At that juncture of time, of course, I could not speak concretely with him about my knowledge because he wouldn't have believed me—he would have taken me for a human practical joker. I cultivated the very, very unusual idea (for my kind) to show him my true exterior, something that I did during our conversation at our fourth meeting in the cabin. Actually, he was predestined for contact: he was open-minded, honest, intelligent, not religiously inclined or conditioned; he lived alone and isolated, and no one would believe him, should he decide to go public with his story. I dared to take the step, but then I had serious doubt about the propriety of my act, especially when he reacted...very...violently. He got control of himself again after a time and we could finally talk concretely about definite matters. Now he had no choice but to believe me. This was the beginning of a series of meetings which initially took place there in the woods, but later took place in his remote residence. Finally he brought you into contact with me...and for that reason we are now sitting here once again and talking about things which probably won't be believed out there in human society.

    Question: You said, you would not have had permission at that time for contacts with human beings. Do you now then have permission to talk with E.F. and me about all these things and even to make this scientifically public?

    Answer: Yes. That is difficult to explain and for you to understand. Let's just say, I find myself in the position now to arrange this permission without having to take into account any consequences. In this position I am quasi-"immune" against certain restrictions. Let's look it that way. Yes.

    Question: If other people want to come into contact with your kind, do they have a chance to do so?

    Answer: Generally not. We avoid contact with you and we operate on the surface only in remote areas and there we use the mimicry techniques in case we should meet some people. That I am talking with you now does not mean that others will follow my example. It goes without saying that you could try to find an entrance to my world and penetrate your way into there. However, that can sooner lead to unpleasant consequences for the infiltrator. You have next to no chances on the surface of recognizing us. You can't even contact us directly, we have to contact you, just as I did with E.F. Those kinds of contacts however are not the rule but are very rare occurrences.

    Question: Can you describe your subterranean homeland location?

    Answer: I can attempt to do so, but I certainly will not tell you where this place is located. My homeland lies in one of our smaller underground settlements to the east of here. I'll give you some numbers so that you can make a better impression for yourself. Just a minute...I have to try to convert the measurements approximately into your units. It is a dome-shaped cavern at a distance of about 4300 meters from the Earth's surface. The cavern was organized as a colony about 3000 years ago; a major portion of the ceiling structure is artificially integrated into the rock and the form was remodeled into an almost elegantly proportioned and very flat dome with an oval ground plan.

    The diameter of the dome according to your measures is about two-and-a-half kilometers. The height of the dome at the highest point is about 220 meters. Underneath that highest point in every colony there stands a special whitish-gray cylindrical building—a kind of supporting column which holds the honeycomb net-carrying structure of the dome. This building is the tallest, largest and oldest in the entire dome for it is always situated as the first construction together with the security of the ceiling. (In the meantime of course there were times when it was completed and reconditioned.) That building has a very special name and religious significance. We have only one of those columns; larger colonies even have more columns according to the construction of the ceiling.

    One of the main colonies in Inner Asia has as an example 9 of those kinds of supports, but that colony is also over 25 of your kilometers in size. The central building is generally a center of religion, but also a center for climate control, and a center for the behavior and the regulation of the lighting system. We have at our location all together 5 large artificial light sources which generate your UV light and its warmth through gravitational sources. The air shafts and the light systems from the surface likewise run through these columns and naturally, they are very intensely controlled.

    By the way, we have 3 air shafts and 2 elevator systems there, and even a tunnel connection to the next main colony which lies approximately 500 kilometers to the southeast. One elevator shaft leads to a cavern near the surface, the other leads to one of our depots for the ships—you remember, the cylindrical ships—that is naturally concealed closer to the surface behind a rocky mountain face.

    Normally, there are only three ships there—it's a small depot. The other buildings of the colony are, for the most part, concentrically ordered in oval circles around the main supporting column, and they are without exception much flatter; generally only between 3 and 20 meters tall. The shape of the buildings is round and dome-like. The color is even differentiated according to circle and distance from the main column.

    To the north of the column, there is an additional, very large but very flat round building. This building interrupts the concentric system of the colony with its diameter of about 250 meters. It is the artificial sun zone in which specially illuminated corridors and rooms are housed. In these locations very powerful UV light predominates, and they are used in order to warm our blood. There is even a medical dispensary and a meeting room located there.

    Beyond the outer ring of the colony, there are zones in which animals are kept—you know, we MUST consume flesh as nourishment—and the gardens in which plant nourishment and mushroom culture are cultivated; there is also hot and cold running water there from subterranean sources. The power station is located on the edge of the colony. The station is driven by fusion as its base and it supplies the colony and the "suns" with energy. My group or "family" lives, by the way, in the fourth ring of buildings out from the central support column. So much in such a short time. To describe to you all the buildings and their tasks would be going too far. It is difficult to describe something like that to you, for it is a completely different set of surroundings and culture from what you are accustomed to in your life on the surface. You really have to see it for yourself to be able to believe it.

    Question: Will I myself see it sometime?

    Answer: Who knows, maybe. Time brings new opportunities.

    Question: How many creatures of your kind live in this colony?

    Answer: Approximately 900.

    Question: That is the end of the interview. Do you have any final message for the readers of the transcript?

    Answer: Yes. I am thoroughly surprised at the many comments to my words; of course, I am naturally also disappointed about the religious portrayals of me as the enemy which have been voiced and which have buried themselves deeply in your mind. You should learn to set yourselves apart from the old conditioning and not to stand quasi under the control of something or someone who has already been gone for 5000 years. You are, after all, free spirits. Those are my final words.
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    Thank-you Mercuriel. I'm going to have to think about that for a while. I understand it on one level -- but I suspect that there are levels of understanding I haven't thought of. Perhaps all we are dealing with are various Interdimensional-Spirit Factions in conflict with each other. I keep getting the feeling that this thing is very ancient, very complex, and very nasty. I worry constantly about how I might fit into all of this -- and where my True loyalties lie. I have NO idea whether I am fundamentally good or bad. This thing could be so many ways -- and go in so many directions. I keep thinking about Da'an in Earth: Final Conflict. He/She seemed to be Man's Best Taelon Friend -- yet in one of the first season episodes, a crazy-genius prisoner had some sort of programming to defend humanity -- and he was trying to kill Da'an. So, what if I only SEEM to be a Friend of Humanity -- while on some subconscious-level I am an Enemy of Humanity??!! Ancient Stolen Technology (Including the Genetic-Engineering of the Human-Race and Other-Races) combined with various Wars in Heaven might be determinative regarding who's side I'm fundamentally on. Somewhat unrelatedly, is the Bible fundamentally peaceful or fundamentally violent?? Is the Bible fundamentally pro-human or fundamentally anti-human?? Think long and hard about this. I continue to like the manner in which the Bible was written -- yet I am often repulsed and puzzled by what I read in the Sacred Scriptures. What if Horus essentially documented the activities of Isis and Ra (and any equivalent names)?? What if Horus was a Historical Chad Dekker?? What if Isis was a Historical Anna?? What if Set was a Historical Marcus?? What if Isis = Gabriel = Anna?? What if Horus = Michael = Chad?? What if Set = Ra = Lucifer = Marcus?? The Real-Powers That Be always have (and probably always will) control the Front-Powers That Be -- to control ALL Factions -- to do whatever the hell they want them to do -- whether anyone likes it or not. The Horror.

    What if we are fundamentally dealing with Native-Reptilians v Invading Draconian Reptilians v Humans Created by a Particular Reptilian Faction?? What if ALL of the factions have the same type of souls -- and had a common origin?? What if there have been literally Trillions of Years of Star Wars?? Do we REALLY want Disclosure?? Do I REALLY want to be a Colorado Deep-Underground Insider?? Perhaps we should be VERY careful what we ask for. Perhaps a United States of the Solar System would be an Absolute Disaster. I keep thinking about telling a young medical doctor (decades ago) that being God was probably a nasty job -- but that somebody had to do it. I meant it then -- and I continue to stand by what I said. What Would Atlas Say?? Perhaps one should sell their soul to you know who -- and become a Billionaire-Insider Front-Man CEO of a High-Technology Company -- with insider sources of stolen and/or alien technology. Perhaps truth-seeking and doing the right thing are lost causes which make a person a Threat to National Security. This world seems to be a mixture of Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory -- with the most absurd extremes of wealth, poverty, sanity, insanity, pleasure, pain, etc, etc. It seems like some sort of a Grand-Plan which got hijacked and corrupted -- and which has gone VERY wrong -- when viewed from a distance. "Prison-Planet in Rebellion" seems to be an appropriate description of Planet Earth. I continue to desire a Perfected-Humanity Living in a Perfected Solar-System -- yet I would need to know a helluva lot of insider-information to make proper determinations regarding how this drama should play-out. I think I've talked to at least a couple of Insiders -- but they told me very little -- even though I asked a lot of questions. I feel as if I am being prepared for something -- but that I can't be told much of anything. I have NO idea whether this "something" might be good or bad. I might have some VERY powerful friends and enemies -- going way, way, way, way back. But really, in the final analysis, Might Might Make Right. Perhaps I should fundamentally be a Righteous-Warrior. Perhaps I fundamentally am -- but I just don't know it in this particular incarnation. The Horror.

    I wonder how many of the alphabet agencies (such as DHS, IRS, CIA, NSA, etc) are fundamentally NOT part of our official government?? Once again, I am NOT opposed to the right kind of world government and solar system government -- but I worry about the true nature of the Top of the Pyramid. If we deserve to live in a Prison Planet in Rebellion -- so be it -- but what if our predicament is illegitimate and/or mismanaged? I have NO idea what the case may be -- which is why I mostly just mumble on this little website. Again, I have mixed-feelings about humanity. I love the theory -- but the reality seems FAR from ideal. Perhaps this world and solar system need to be run as subsidiaries of a HUGE Galactic Business Empire. I suspect that they are -- and NOT in a nice way. Perhaps one would need to pass the equivalent of that "V" Empathy Test to work in the upper-levels of Solar System Management. I simply don't know the galactic realities. My present preference with my very limited knowledge and abilities -- is for a solar system without war and without environmental destruction. That would be just for starters. This world MIGHT be sort of a Debtor's Prison -- where payment is extracted and punishment is inflicted -- for ancient (and continuing) sins against who knows who?! I've heard that North Korea is in league with Japan. Is there some truth to this? I suspect that the Powers That Be (Human and Otherwise) will do whatever maximizes their bottom-line -- with absolutely no empathy. I'm getting more and more jaded and cynical about life, the universe, and everything. The Horror.

    Here is something rather strange and off-the-wall. A long time ago, I recorded the voice of a seemingly normal person with a moderately high-pitched voice -- on a digital-recorder -- but when I replayed this recording -- the sound was very rough and low -- and almost like a primitive growl. I tried this repeatedly -- with the same results every time. I recorded other people (including myself) -- with normal sounding play-backs. What the hell was going on with this particular person?? Can anyone answer me THAT?? I asked the Ancient Egyptian Deity about this -- and they simply said "Some of Them Slip Through" -- without elaborating. Very strange stuff. The Horror.

    I continue to repost posts from the past -- regardless of whether or not I still think the same way now as when I first posted them. All of this is intended to make ALL of us Think -- including me. I continue to attempt to be open and honest about Angels and Archangels -- even though I know this is playing with burning magnesium. I am simply attempting to be fair toward all concerned -- whether this is religiously and politically correct or not. Some people are afraid of some sort of Zombie-Attack -- but what if MOST People are Zombies under the control of some type of evil entities?? The Horror.

    I continue to get bad vibes from both Humanity and Divinity. I wonder if I have some sort of a Secret Existence in some other solar system -- or perhaps some other planet within this solar system. Something seems to be very wrong with my present incarnation into Earth-Humanity. I feel as if I am fighting a Spiritual Cold-War each and every day -- with absolutely nothing to show for it -- other than a few pathetic threads on the internet. I really think this present internet infowar is a test of some kind which is being monitored very carefully. I continue to feel as if I am hanging myself each and every day by attempting to be open and honest. The Horror.

    I think I'm going to read the latest issue of Foreign Affairs from cover to cover. You see -- I'm trying to identify with both Alex Jones and David Rockefeller -- if you know what I mean. I will continue to think in terms of Archangelic Factional Fighting until the evidence points me in another direction. Again, walking in my shoes will NOT make you happy. It's a Nasty-Task -- but someone must do it. We all have our crosses to bear. I'll have to listen to this Leo Zagami podcast http://www.blogtalkradio.com/truthconnections/2013/03/19/leo-zagami-signs-of-the-times later today -- but I'm already overwhelmed with research, emotion, and conflict. I've been reading Foreign Affairs -- and I think alternative-types should subscribe to it -- just to balance things out. I've 'enjoyed' Zagami interviews and rants in the past. I continue to wish to know 'secret-stuff' without getting involved in all of the creepy, bloody, and corrupt madness -- if you know what I mean. But really, this world and solar system might be ruled by some very dark forces -- who the elites are forced to deal-with and obey. I guess this is why I keep trying to keep the best aspects of the City-States -- while attempting to exorcise the darkness and the madness -- if you know what I mean. The Horror.

    I guess I'm trying to be a Minimalist-Traditionalist Protestant-Catholic by focusing upon 1. The Latin Mass. 2. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer. 3. Sacred Classical Music. BTW -- some say that Rome invented Islam (or something to that effect). I continue to lean toward the idea that this solar system is one big business controlled by some sort of a queen -- who controls EVERYTHING -- including ALL religions and governments. Making things better might be harder than we think. I'm trying to think and act like an Insider and an Outsider -- simultaneously. I am honestly trying to think the Queen of Heaven's Thoughts After Her. I realize this might seriously anger a lot of Roman Catholics, New Agers, et al -- but I am doing this in both a reverent and irreverent manner -- as strange as that sounds. The Horror.

    War of any sort (civil or uncivil -- holy or unholy) is a BAD idea -- but I just KNOW the PTB will start WWIII and inflict various "Natural Disasters" and "Acts of God". That killer-asteroid phenomenon wouldn't surprise me a bit -- but I still think they might be piloted by "Devil-Babies". Some of you know what I'm talking about. Just stockpile food, camping-gear, and medical-supplies. Skip the guns and ammo. That's just my opinion. BTW -- I'm just going to go down with the ship -- without much fuss at all. The Horror.


    You know - I think I'm completely missing the boat. I think I'm right - in principle and concept - but I think I'm wrong in methodology. I think I need to get completely away from the solar system governance and extraterrestrial stuff. This has really been a case of whipping a very dead horse. My advice to everyone, is to pursue fame, fortune, power, and pleasure - RESPONSIBLY. A person can be wrong - even when they're right - and I think I'm wrong. I took a wrong turn - and I think I need to backtrack - or something. I have obviously worn out my welcome. My posting on this forum does not seem to be a good fit - but I really don't know where else to go - but I do think that I need to rethink everything. I really am not addicted to excercises in futility. I'm leaning toward the 'we're all hybrids with interdimensional souls' theory. But the history seems to be veiled with major deception - probably to hide a very dark past. I'm not sure I want to keep poking and prodding a phenomenon which might be very protective and hostile. I wish to be open, accomodating, happy, constructive, etc. - but this approach does not seem to be working, at this point - and I really don't like to feel frustrated each, and every day of my life - so I may try extra hard to stop thinking about all of this - and just wait for the truth to emerge in a more public way. All is not well with my quest. I can really see why a lot of people become completely secular - and just pursue fame, fortune, power, and pleasure. I guess I've really known this for my whole life - but I just had to keep coming back for more - and continue to bloody myself emotionally and spiritually. I should have just shut up, and gone with the flow of the community I grew up in - which would have probably involved becoming a millionaire surgeon (doing unnecessary surgeries and prescribing harmful drugs), and being a big-shot in the church (believing and promoting bs). This alternative, fringe, and esoteric thrashing about, really seems to be no-win. The good people in society Do Not dominate - and they probably never will. One more thing - I would love to get some reptilian contact lenses - and really freak people out!!! But, who knows, I might look in the mirror one morning, and realize that I don't need the contact lenses to freak people out. This illustrates how mixed-up I am right now. I just want out. May the force be with you. Namaste.

    investigator wrote:
    Besides, the interdimensional reptilian spies are keeping me under constant watch

    Your not paranoid friend hehehe. I'm slightly clairvoyant and I can clearly see myself being watched by entities assigned to me, whereas the average person does not realize they are being watched by those that are assigned to them 24/7. They are there when you shower, go to the bathroom, download movies off the net without paying for it etc, hehe.
    They're even watching when I'm rocking back and forth in the corner - doing you know what... Oooyeah 1 Lmao

    I have been spending way too much time speculating about Lucifer. I feel as though I am becoming more unbalanced by the dayI. Yet, I press forward into territory where angels (and probably even demons) fear to tread. Just now - I saw a bright point of light pass between me and the monitor. This has happened several times, and I'm almost getting used to it. I will try to transfer some of my recent YouTube posts ('True Form of Lucifer') to this location, even though I will probably make a fool out of myself, and attract some potentially unsavory entities into my home, which is probably already spook central. The horror. Viewer discretion advised - nudity! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUkiUMWf7bQ

    The real questions connected with the subject of 'Lucifer' are regarding world governance, solar system governance, galactic governance, universe governance, leadership, power, self-exaltation, pride, humility, corruptibility, cruelty, justice, mercy, jurisprudence, God, Satan, Angels, Archangels, Humans, Reptilians, Greys, enslavement, extermination, truth, deception, heaven, hell, etc. It's all about politics and religion.

    Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer: What the hell is going on? Perhaps there was a problematic theocracy in the past - but why does everything have to continue to be filled with lies, violence, and insanity? Why can't we base this solar system on Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom - and stop playing Masters of the Universe? I brought this up on Project Avalon - and the eventual response seemed to be dragon gibberish. I've had it with just about everyone and everything. The whole thing stinks.

    I'm leaning toward the idea of Lucifer being at the center of a lot of things throughout history - good and bad. I've asked this question before: Lucifer = Lilith and/or Eve = Isis = Mary = Inanna = Anna (in 'V') = Whore of Babylon ruling Babylon aka UN, Vatican, City of London, Washington DC, Secret Government, Secret Space Program, Underground Bases, Alphabet Agencies, Jesuits, Royal Family, et al? Is Lucifer a Hybrid Mediatrix between a Reptilian/God/Satan and Humanity?

    What if Lucifer takes orders from Satan - and together they have a monopoly on monotheism - as well as the new age alternatives? Some of the ancient gods and goddesses may have been jerks - but that doesn't mean that those who opposed them are necessarily saints either. I'm thinking that Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer need to stand aside - and allow We the People of Earth to rule ourselves with Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Why is this so hard?

    The first and last commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'. I'm not an atheist, but I'm not a true believer either. It's sort of strange - I think we should study the Bible and Theology - but I don't think we should bow down and worship anyone. I like Humanistic Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction. Isn't that a mouthful?! I'm a walking contradiction! I'm so gonna burn! Right - Lucifer? I still want to hear you improvise at St. Sulpice or St. Ouen. Namaste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oR3P3IfGqo (Updating Note: The Ancient Egyptian Deity said that the source of the sacred classical music was not who I thought it might be. I have some ideas about this which I do NOT wish to share.)

    If Jesus is Lord - why don't Christians follow the Teachings of Jesus? I reverence the words of Christ - but I sometimes wonder who really wrote them. All of this is complex and confusing - and I'm sure we'll be fighting over this for decades or centuries.

    I don't think 2012 is the end. I'm thinking we all get recycled - whether we're good, bad, Christian, Luciferian, agnostic, atheist, whoever or whatever. The issue is what kind of world do we wish to get reincarnated back into. We should all try to make this solar system a paradise - rather than the purgatory that it is presently. Watch 'Pale Blue Dot' here on YouTube. It's by Carl Sagan - and puts things into perspective. Interesting that the reverse of Sagan is Nagas! Hmmmmmm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnFMrNdj1yY

    Watch 'the temptation of Jesus by the Devil in the wilderness' from 'Last Temptation of Christ' on YouTube. Jesus is tempted by both a male and female. Could the male be a Reptilian/Satan/God - and could the female be a female or androgynous human/reptilian hybrid mediatrix named 'Lucifer'? Notice that the female is dressed in red - reminding me of the 'Whore of Babylon'. Any thoughts? This clip is no longer available on youtube.com. You might need to buy the DVD.

    I think that Lucifer could be a more complex character than we can imagine. I'm imagining a very conflicted character - with extremes of good and evil - good intentions - unfathomable corruption - and very possibly bouts of insanity. I keep saying that Lucifer should retire - and be a relatively powerless advisor. I think we need a Solar System Exorcism to remove the really hardcore nasties - human and otherwise. The Solar System should be based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom.

    Look at 'orthodoxymoron threads' - select 'God, Jesus, Satan, Lucifer et al', 'Amen Ra', 'United States of the Solar System', 'Lucifer - Deity of the Elite', 'Lucifer Effect', 'Red Letter Chruch', and others. I don't subscribe to the Christian or the Luciferian perspective on this subject. I'm all over the place on this one. I still want to share a bottle of fine wine with Lucifer - when this thing gets resolved - and I don't drink. I'm looking for comments - positive and negative. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15663

    Perhaps Lucifer created the mythologies and theologies - which would include the Logos. This reminds me of an ill-fated thread on the original Project Avalon website regarding abraxasinas and the Council of Thuban. I consider Lucifer to be a god or goddess with a small 'g' - and not the Creator God of the Universe. This major God seems to be strangely absent in this Solar System. Were they removed or destroyed? Something is VERY screwed-up in this neck of the woods. What happened?

    What if Luciferianism is the esoteric side of Christianity - and Christianity is the esoteric side of Luciferianism? What if Lucifer has a monopoly on monotheism? International bankers finance both sides in wars - so why wouldn't Lucifer play both sides in the God vs Satan game? Perhaps the Father of Lies is a Real Mother! We need to focus on RESPONSIBILITY. We probably all get recycled - whether we're good or bad. But why not create a better world to get recycled back into?

    Isn't arguing about religion fun?! Perhaps when the esoteric and exoteric become one and the same thing - we may find out that most of us have been wrong all along - and that our delusions have a common source. Perhaps the gods and goddesses will come out of the closet and proclaim 'We Are All One'. I'm thinking that comparative religions and comparative gods and goddesses is a profitable study to help resolve all of the confusion. But we may not like the ultimate answers. We need to be honest.

    I tend to think that the entire human race is presently in purgatory - and that it is the choice of the entire human race - as to whether we will make this solar system a heaven or a hell for the entire human race. I also tend to think that churchianity and luciferianism are both deceptive in nature. One must engage in a multidisciplinary quest for the truth - in order to catch glimpses of universal and ultimate truth. The search is never ending. We never really arrive.

    Regardless of who God, Satan, Gabriel, Lucifer, Michael, Humans, Reptilians, Greys, Angels, and Demons are - we need to base this Solar System on Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom - and get rid of the lies and corruption. It seems that all is corruption and confusion. I continue to think of Lucifer as being a conflicted female or androgynous hybrid being - who is both good and evil - going way, way back in history. The corrupt rule the stupid.

    I'm still looking for a Christian church in the last 2,000 years which focused (and/or focuses) on the Red Letter Teachings of Jesus. Which church has the Words Attributed to Jesus as their Doctrinal Statement? The Words of Christ always seem to be at the back of the bus - or even under the bus. In some churches - Jesus is rudely on display - nailed to a cross - and then nailed to a wall - bleeding, mostly naked, and nearly dead - with His Teachings mostly ignored.

    Which scholar should I read to find substantiation for the assertion that Lucifer is not a fallen angel or goddess - but rather a Babylonian king? Could the sun referred to really be the Dog Star Sirius? Could God/Satan be from Sirius (Prince of Sirius)? Could this be the illumination behind the all seeing eye at the top of the pyramid on the dollar bill? Could the eye belong to Lucifer aka Whore of Babylon? I'm crazy - but not everything I say is wrong. Just 50%.

    What do you think about the following? ENLIL = GARBHODAKASAYANI = JEHOVAH ----- ENKI = SHIVA= HOLY SPIRIT = ZEUS = CHAKRASAMVARA = AVALOKITESHWARA = CHENREZIG = LUCIFER = EA = ADONAI = HADAD = BA'AL = RUDRA = KAAL BHAIRAVA ------ THE NIBIRUAN GODS ( NIBIRU = NEBADON = VULCAN = PLANET X = WORMWOOD FROM SIRIUS B ) HAD THEIR BASES EVERYWHERE. ALL THE RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME SOURCE. BIBLE = BY-BAL = BY BA'AL( ENKI) -- QURAN = QUR-AN / ANU. Is this accurate or complete bs? How can we know?

    What if Luficer wrote the Bible? I'm grasping at straws. I'm not a scholar - but I'm seeing Lucifer as being a powerful combination of good and evil - who needs to retire - and turn this solar system over to Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I'm just speculating - and seeing what response I get. It's educated speculation regarding a subject which is very hard to find proof for. The absence of Lucifer or Satan in the Bible - especially the Old Testament is fascinating.

    What about an original Human God and Reptilian Satan - and the Archangels Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer? What about an ancient War in Heaven involving all of the above? Are all of the above still alive? Where are all of the above? What are all of the above doing? Are all of the above sane? What if all of the above are disfunctional? What if it is up to Earth humanity to clean up a universal mess? What if the essence of this universal mess is a universal church? Just wondering.

    Regardless of the answers to the previous questions - I think we need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System with No Gods or Goddesses. I think this would be in everyone's best interest - including gods, goddesses, humans, non-humans, whoever, or whatever. The Universal Powers That Be would have to sign-off on this, and I hope they have already done so, and are presently working out the details. This should be a top down bloodless revolution with evolutionary implementation.

    The first and last commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'. I sometimes think that Lucifer rebelled against a corrupt or insane theocracy, by trying to be a better god, and then failed miserably. I could be very wrong about this, but universe-history seems to be very screwed-up. The problem seems to be that 'Power Corrupts. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely'. There seems to be no exceptions to this rule, which is why we should not have gods, in the traditional sense at least.

    Regardless of who God, Satan, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Jesus, Mary, Angels, Demons, or Aliens really are - and what they are doing - the human race needs to get it's act together in a great big hurry. We seem to be on the brink - with very high stakes. I feel an incredible sense of dread and pressure each and every day - as I contemplate our plight - and as I contemplate what to do about it. Consider the corruption, destruction, and carnage of the last 100 years.

    I just hope that all of the factions in this solar system - good, evil, and otherwise - are seriously considering uniting around the concept of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System. I don't know what our history really is - or what the major issues really are. I'm flying blind - but I am trying to conceptualize what the most rational next step should be. The image at 3:15 is particularly interesting to me. Could this be the true form of Lucifer and/or Mary? Just wondering.

    I just watched the 2012 movie for the first time - and it scared the hell out of me. I hope that none of the factions in this solar sytem are seriously considering deliberately inflicting 'Earth Changes' on Planet Earth. This world obviously needs to be completely reformed and cleaned-up - in so many ways - but the Noah's Ark idea is a really bad one - in my unenlightened opinion. Would 4 billion people on Earth (2 billion surface and 2 billion sub-surface), and 4 billion people throughout the rest of the solar system (mostly subsurface) be a reasonable goal?

    I keep thinking that there is a possibility of a civilization of Human Souls in Human/Reptile Hybrid Bodies living in Underground Bases and Cities With Highly Advanced Ancient Human Technology - and that this constitutes the sum total of the 'Alien Presence' and the 'Secret Government'. I also keep thinking that a Human/Reptile Hybrid named Lucifer and/or Mary rules this Underground Empire. I know I'm crazy - but I am trying to test a hypothesis which could explain and resolve a lot of things.

    I just wanted to wish Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al - a happy day and a terrific week. I really think we can work this thing out - without enslavement, extermination, Star Wars, or Masters of the Universe. Imagine 10,000 very competent humans engaging in Global and Solar System Governance - with advisors which might include all of the above. The absolute power corrupting thing seems to be the big problem.

    Are we dealing with Human Souls Inhabiting Human/Reptile Hybrid Bodies Living in Underground Bases? Are they Satan, Lucifer, Archangels, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, et al? Did they write the Bible and create most of the theologies and mythologies? Do they constitute the Secret Government? Do Hybrids live for hundreds of years, and are they relatively emotionless, very smart, expect reverential worship, and capable of great cruelty? Do they fly UFO's? Does tax and drug money finance them?

    Is the 'V' series (1984 and 2009) representative of my comment below? Is 'Anna' (Lucifer?) the leader of this hypothetical underground empire, and secretly the leader of us all? Is this the Holy Roman Empire aka The Kingdom of God aka The New World Order aka The Secret Government? Is the Dog Star Sirius at the center of all of this? Whatever the case may be - I am deeply concerned about the destruction of Earth and the horrible wars of the past 100 years - and the non-stop lying and corruption. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_X7SvvSgxM

    I just want this solar system to be run properly - regardless of who the major players are. Has Responsibility been heavily promoted at any time in the history of the world? I've been passively promoting a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System in my internet comments. The response has been virtually non-existant. I don't have much of a problem with the way things are - except that everyone and everything seems to be massively screwed-up. WTF?

    The following comments are merely speculation. If some or all of it is true - I wouldn't have a problem interacting with these beings - but I'll be damned if they'll be my god and savior - who I have to bow down and worship. Consider the material of Bill Cooper, Alex Collier, Richard Sauder, Barry King (Bases Series), James Casbolt, John Rhodes, and the 'V' series. I'm treating all of this as science-fiction which could possibly be true. I'm not hostile about this - but I do want the truth.

    Here are two relevant and recommended interviews: 'YouTube Bases 4 Part 1 James Casbolt. & Matt Todd' or Google Video 'John Kuhles interviewed James Casbolt MI6 on UntoldMysteries Radio Part 1 of 4'. I'd love to tour the underworld and meet Satan, Lucifer, the Archangels, Gods, Goddesses, Reptilians, Greys, and the Secret Government. I wouldn't kneel and worship them - but I would be respectful. Can someone set this up? You know where I live. Unfortunately, I'd probably end up as lunch. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJ1YIb0HWQ 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBB5zhVh-rU

    Could someone please look at my comments in this thread, and do a point by point critique. My mind is not made up, and I'd love to be confused by the facts. I'm easily confused. I think reincarnation may exist, and I would so love to reincarnate back into a perfected solar system inhabited with perfected people. I think we are in Purgatory, on the brink of Heaven or Hell. Which is it gonna be? No one seems to want to seriously discuss my thoughts regarding Cleaning Up This Mess.

    What if Lucifer created most of the theologies, mythologies, and sacred texts? What if Lucifer is both good and evil? What if Lucifer created a very good - yet relatively powerless Jesus - as a red-herring? What if the Secret Government were based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom - and made completely open and transparent - instead of being Megalomaniacs Anonymous?

    Jesus said to Seek First the Kingdom of God, and that the Truth Would Set Us Free. Could a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System be the basis of a governmental system which sets us free? Is the Bible really a puzzle to be solved? Is the Bible really a cunningly devised fable created by Lucifer, with both truth and error? I continue to think that Lucifer may be a lot like Anna in 'V' and that the spaceships are really underground bases, and the basis of the Secret Government.

    Monotheism. From Akhenaten to Obamanaten. Perhaps Lucifer has a Monopoly on Monotheism. I don't trust anyone or anything - including the ancient wisdom, legends, mythologies, theologies, gods, goddesses, sacred texts, aliens, arse-ended masters, democrats, republicans, angels, demons, or even myself. I've had it with just about everyone and everything. The whole GD mess stinks from top to bottom. Delusions in conflict. World without end or meaning.

    I keep wondering if Lucifer rebelled against a deplorable situation (heaven might not have been heaven) and that this rebellion got out of control, resulting in the War in Heaven, and ultimately in corruption and insanity. There may be a lot more to 'stealing fire from the gods' than we can possibly imagine. The history of this world, solar system, galaxy, and universe may be stranger and more upsetting than we can possibly comprehend. I think Lucifer may have a Devil by the tail.

    I continue to suspect a hidden central power individual who is dominant throughout Earth history - who is a mixture of good and evil - who is very intelligent - yet at times, quite moody and unstable. Could this be Lucifer? Is the latest manifestation of Lucifer really Mary? I don't want to screw things up if it's best for certain things to remain hidden, but I continue to think that we really need to learn the full honest truth regarding our ENTIRE history, for better or for worse. The horror!

    The images at 00:40 and 03:15 are the ones which interest me most regarding the true form of Lucifer. I also wonder about 'Anna' in the series 'V' and the female spiritual leader of the indigenous population (Navi) of Pandora in 'Avatar'. The strong female behind the scenes (in the White House) in 'Contact' is of interest to me - as is 'Ra' in 'Stargate'. I imagine a female Lucifer travelling from Underground Base to Underground Base via Mach II Magneto Leviton Trains. 'Next stop - Vatican City'.

    I guess I'd like to see the Hypothetical Luciferian Secret Solar System Government replaced by a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System based upon the U.S. Constitution, with 10,000 representatives from around the world (and solar system?). The infrastructure should probably be largely unchanged, and current members of the Hypothetical Secret Government should probably be advisors or be some of the representatives (once they get out of prison??!!!). They have valuable knowledge.

    Watch 'Bill Cooper - UFO's and the Secret Government' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNREw4KmLIY - 'The Secret Underground Lectures of Commander X' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgWiFvbBh4E - and 'Powers That Be' from 'Stargate SG-1' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMEqP8Adw70 - and imagine a female Lucifer (human/reptile hybrid?) at the center of things. I mean no harm to anyone - including Lucifer - and I wonder if the Luciferian Goddess Concept should be an object of aspiration rather than veneration. Hmmmmm.

    Has anyone seriously considered my previous posts, especially regarding the possibility that Lucifer has manifested as goddesses throughout history (including Mary) and that currently Lucifer might bear a striking resemblance to Anna ('V' series)? What if Lucifer/Anna rules the solar system from underground bases, and travels from Washington DC to the United Nations, to the Vatican, to corporate headquarters, to genetics/hybrid labs, to ufo development centers via mach II magneto-leviton trains and ufo's? Please talk to me.

    I've noticed that a lot of comments relative to this subject are polarized into 'Lucifer is Satan, and will be destroyed by God!' OR 'Jesus and Christianity suck and Lucifer is my savior!'. I'm leaning toward the view that Lucifer invented most of the gods, goddesses, mythologies, sacred texts, and theologies - presides over (stolen?) ancient technology - has been both good and evil - might be a human/reptile hybrid - and might be responsible for the best and worst in human history. Does this resonate with anyone?

    I desire a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System. How might a transition of power occur if Lucifer/Anna really runs this solar system? They would obviously have vast knowledge and experience - but absolute power corrupts absolutely. Should Lucifer/Anna have a role in a 10,000 representative Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System based upon the U.S. Constitution and the Principles and Concepts in the Teachings of Jesus? Did Lucifer write the Teachings of Jesus?

    I seem to have an overwhelming desire to befriend Lucifer , and to convince Lucifer to retire. I don't wish to destroy Lucifer, or to worship Lucifer. Whatever the true state of affairs may be, I would like to see a 20 part high-budget TV series (and/or very long movie) ACCURATELY depicting our TRUE history, which would likely feature the role of Lucifer. I'm just speculating, but my theories (not necessarily unique to me) seem to resolve a lot of things (for me, at least). How about it Lucifer?

    Regarding my previous post: I once spoke to a close relative of a famous Hollywood director about doing a superior epic Life of Christ movie with the most advanced special effects. No clout - no results. And that was before Mel Gibson gave it a bloody go. Perhaps this early wish will be embodied in that which I described below. Hint, hint.

    Lucifer should retire - and become Satan Emeritas! Just kidding! I'm thinking that Lucifer and Satan are two different beings - but what the hell do I know? Or 'Who in hell do I know?!' Once again - watch 'V' (1983-5 and 2009-10), 'Hathor', and 'Powers That Be' from Stargate SG-1. I know this isn't very scholarly - but it might help you to visualize some of the aspects of who I suspect Lucifer might be. Also watch the 'Isis - Mary' parallel videos on You Tube. Connect the dots. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oG-KuVbfhw&feature=related 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGhFrC9o6c

    It's as if the entire world is on a leviton train, and Lucifer is the engineer and the conductor, and this train isn't stopping for anyone or anything, including Jesus Christ and the U.S. Constitution. They have both become hood-ornaments on this hell-bound leviton train. My solution is to infuse the U.S. Constitution with the principles and concepts contained in the Teachings of Jesus, and go global. The mouse is mightier than the sword. I learned everything I know from 'Pinky and the Brain'! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs








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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:20 pm

    This post is mostly more reposting of various internet postings from the past. Most of these were posted on youtube several years ago. How time flies -- whether or not one is having fun! Some of my thinking has changed -- yet I have mostly left these posts unedited. Once again, this material is intended to help us all think about difficult subjects -- rather than my claim to exclusive-truth.

    I keep seeing a church in California...in my mind's eye...with a group of well-dressed and solemn people meeting with Lucifer (who is dressed in black with a long cape) and looks like a combination of Ra in Stargate and Anna in 'V', and is very cold and stoic. Lucifer is wearing round black-rimmed glasses. The subject is theology, governance...and transition of power. The conditions have finally been met...which require Lucifer to transfer control of the solar system to 10,000 human beings.

    Lucifer is furious...and is arrogantly hissing 'We had you fooled!' 'What took you so long!' 'We didn't think you could do it!' 'You got out of our grasp just in time!' 'If you only knew what we had planned for you!' 'OK...you can try to rule yourselves!' 'Good luck! You're going to need it!' 'If you only knew what we've been through because of you!' 'If you only knew what we've had to do to keep you alive!' 'We were good to you!'

    With that...Lucifer rises...struts out of the room...and into an elevator...which descends to an unkown sub-level...boards a waiting leviton train...travels to Pine Gap, Australia at twice the speed of sound...and boards a mothership...filled with hardcore followers (humans, reptilians, and greys)...destination - Sirius. The date: December 21, 2012. (Perhaps I got the name and date wrong -- but I continue to think along these lines.)


    Regardless of my internet comments, I am very appreciative of all of the Powers That Be throughout history who have tried to do the right thing, regardless of their purity or corruption, and regardless of their success or failure. I am generally disrespectful and irreverent, but I mean no harm. My comments are not based upon any inside knowledge, so I am probably not even close to the real truth. I just want to stimulate everyone to think deeply in a sort of an esoteric masturbation of the mind.

    How many humans does it take to rule the world? Should humans rule the world at all? Is 'rule' the wrong word? I'm thinking of 10,000 as the magic number - with perhaps a group of 100 from the larger group - to travel throughout the world and solar system - to make sure that everything is operating properly - one on one. What do you think Lucifer's IQ might be? 500? How many PhD's might they have the equivalent of? 100? I'm just pulling these numbers out of an anatomical black hole. The horror.

    If Lucifer is a Female Satan - then the Luciferians and Satanists can chant 'I Love Lucy!' and sing 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds!' No offence Lucifer. I still want to share a bottle of fine wine and hear you improvise (preferably in Paris) when this mess gets resolved. I'm thinking that I may have seen you a couple of times - incognito. I'm interested in hearing the full and accurate story of who we really are - where we're really from - and how much trouble we're really in. The horror.

    Has an apostolic succession of Luciferian Goddesses carried the torch throughout history? Diana Lucifer? Mary Lucifer? Statue of Liberty? Columbia Pictures Goddess? (Notice the pyramidal cloud formation behind the goddess - with the fire/sun at the top of the pyramid [Sirius behind the All Seeing Eye?]). Promethius anyone? Notice the statue at the Rockefeller Center? Did Lucifer steal 'Fire from the Gods' in the form of nukes, computers, genetic hybridization, ufo's, etc. - and then kill 'God'?

    Watch 'Pale Blue Dot' by Carl Sagan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw and ask yourself 'how do we save the world?' I just watched '2012' for the second time, and I continue to wonder if so called 'Earth-Changes' will be deliberately inflicted, rather than naturally occurring, if they occur. If you were in charge of the world, what would you do? Should any one individual (God, Satan, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Mary, et al) be the ruler of us all, or should there be 10,000 representatives under the U.S. Constitution?

    I'd like to see pictures of Lucifer - before and after the fall. I'd like to see pictures of Luther - before and after the Diet of Worms. Einstein wanted to think God's thoughts after Him. Did he really think Lucifer's thoughts after her? Was Einstein instructed by Lucifer - as the video suggests? Lucifer supposedly instructed Darwin. I have speculated, and the video suggests, that Lucifer was the ghost-writer for William Shakespeare. Is our civilization more dependent on Lucifer than we realize?

    The Old Testament God is problematic. The God represented historically by the church is problematic. The Gods and Goddesses of mythology are problematic. Satan and Lucifer are problematic. Responsibility is Right. Irresponsibility is Wrong. The First and Last Commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'. This is a hard saying. Who can hear it? Are you going to back me up on this Lucifer?

    Is Lucifer a bit like Colonel Walter Kurtz in 'Apocalypse Now'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLFdJLSho8 Also, watch 'The Lucifer Effect' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpsVlY3QQc 'Lucifer - Deity of the Elite' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ad-4IAhl6Q&playnext=1&list=PL64B28DCDFEB7DD81&feature=results_video and 'orthodoxymoron threads' for more thoughts regarding Lucifer. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15014 I feel a bit like Martin Sheen in 'Apocalypse Now'. I started out as a Christian Soldier, but now (similar to Martin) I'm not in their @#$% army anymore. I wish to terminate Lucifer's command, but not with extreme prejudice. Retirement?

    Once again - I just want to wish Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al - a terrific day. I really think we can work this thing out - without enslavement, extermination, Star Wars, or Masters of the Universe. Imagine 10,000 very competent humans engaging in Global and Solar System Governance - with advisors which might include all of the above. The absolute power corrupting thing seems to be the big problem. Namaste.

    I'm not too smart , even though I try to be, but I still want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and I want it more than peace and happiness. I want to understand everything beyond my realm. I wish to draw Satan and Lucifer out into the open, and reason with them, even though I am very certain that I am no match for them. We need disclosure now. My speculations may be pure unmitigated rubbish or poppycock - but they may be of value to a fellow truth-seeker.

    We are insecure about our existence because as soon as we leave the security of the womb - we are dumped into a Bottomless Pit of BS. We need the truth - and we need it now. You are correct, in that responsibility is key. However - there is compelling evidence that this solar system is run by the local chapter of Megalomaniacs Anonymous. They need to retire - and we need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System - ASAP.

    It's not how we look - It's how we see. We need a solar system view - rather than a world view. Lucifer may be a she instead of a he. The father of lies may be a real mother. Lucifer may be so 'above it all' that they have lost touch with a lot of things. Holograms, soul-transference, soul-scalping, revivification, cloning, and reincarnation could allow Lucifer to change bodies as easily as we change our clothes. Just ask Leo the Lion of Zion Zagami. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

    It amazes me how Christophobic the Christian Church is. I worry that the God of This World has done a lot of writing, dictating, and redacting of the sacred texts of all faiths. We know Jesus by devotionally studying the Teachings of Jesus. I believe that eventually everyone will enter into some sort of Paradise or Heaven - but that the Road to Utopia will be a lot smoother if we follow the Red-Letter Roadmap - instead of the Yellow Brick Road.

    I think Lucifer may have been running this solar system for a very long time - and that absolute power has corrupted them absolutely - and that it's very, very, very hard to let go of power once one has gained it. I worry that Lucifer is presently like a cornered and hurt animal - and may be extremely dangerous. I continue to think that Lucifer needs to retire, take a vacation, and then perhaps participate in some sort of a tribunal to examine their soul-history in great detail.

    We should reverence The Divinity Within Humanity aka The Holy Spirit aka The Epitome of the Human Collective Unconscious - and we should See Christ In All Persons. We should Seek the Exaltation of the Entire Human Race - rather than Self-Exaltation. Are we Gods with Amnesia? What Would Shirley Maclaine Say (WWSMS)? Did Lucifer Fight Theocracy With Theocracy?

    Someone said that Lucifer hides in plain sight. What did they mean? They offered no specifics. Lucifer might be posting on You Tube, possibly even under this video. I'm really tired of the cat and mouse game, where I'm the mouse. I keep getting the sinking feeling that no matter what we try to do, that things will end badly. Tangentially, reread the story of Lot and the 3 visitors. They were referred to as the "Lord" and men, but when perverted men wanted the visitors, why did Lot offer his daughters?

    Watch 'Hathor', 'Powers That Be', 'Counterstrike', 'The Quest Part 1', 'The Quest Part 2', and 'Dominion' from Stargate SG-1 on hulu(dot)com for possible pieces of the puzzle pertaining to this video and comments. This is not a scholarly approach - but sometimes one must consider something in entertainment form to be able to grasp it's equivalent in written or academic form. I like watching Stargate SG-1 because it forces one to think about a wide variety of possibilities. I love the characters!

    Could the Book of Life be contained in an Underground Base filled with Cray Supercomputers? Your comments appear to be somewhat cryptic. Should we be fully aware of both the good and bad sides of Lucifer - and then focus on the good side? In 'V' - I like the good side of Anna (she's hot!) - but I despise the bad side. She means no harm?

    If you like Anime - check out 'God is a Girl' on You Tube. Some might find this objectionable and risque. I endorse Reverencing the Divinity Within Humanity - and the Girl Aspect of Divinity should not be overlooked. Someone commented that they would rather have a Girl God than a Mean Old Man God! I am leaning toward the theory that most goddesses are Luciferian - and may describe Lucifer better than the typical stereotypes. Just speculation. Research this yourself. Good-luck!

    I don't wish to 'Hail Mary' nor do I wish to 'Hail Satan'. Jesus didn't command people to build churches to worship and praise him. Who is really worshipped and praised in the churches. Take a close look at Christian Symbology and the Eucharistic Liturgy. Study the Bible as an esoteric mental exercise, and don't consider it to be 66 books of absolutes. Try using the Companion Bible. The spirituality in the Bible is quite profound if you don't get bogged-down in the Contradictions and Atrocities.

    Watch 'Leo Zagami 2012 Armageddon' and '(1/10) Moziah Delivers Leo Lyon Zagami from Lucifer' on You Tube. Watch all ten parts. Please. Also - watch 'What if God Was One of Us?' on You Tube. There is a good Project Camelot / Leo Zagami interview on You Tube (3 parts). Leo is a real loose cannon - but I think he knows a helluva lot. I don't trust him - but he is worth listening to regarding the esoteric side of things. That which has been hidden is being revealed. The horror! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLfRsReGII

    Is it just a coincidence that this video was posted on December 21, 2007 - Five years before the infamous December 21, 2012? bravodawson seems to be inactive in the video discussion below - and has only posted this one video. This video portrays a rather obscure view of Lucifer. I stumbled upon this idea before I found this video. It was sort of a confirmation for me. Lynn Picknett has written some interesting things regarding Lucifer - and her books are worth checking out. Research endlessly! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bWd_Kj0p0

    I think at this point in time - we should consider all of the possibilities all of the time. But this is hard work - and can lead to disillusionment and confusion. The Teachings of Jesus should probably be at the center of our research and reconsideration. Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Satan, God, and the God of This World should be looked at very closely with unconventional methods of research. This isn't for everyone - and I don't recommend it for most people.

    I enjoy reading the Bible and theological books, but the ethics in the Bible are horrible. The Teachings of Jesus contain the best ethical guide for life, and even the words attributed to Jesus are not flawless. I'm toying with the heretical idea that Lucifer essentially wrote the Bible. I'm trying to think through everything, with Lucifer at the center of a lot of it, as being refined, decadent, profound, insane, angelic, demonic, progressive, regressive, ad infinitum, ad absurdum.

    No offense bravodawson, but what if Lucifer posted this video, or had someone post it? Is bravodawson an anagram? Is there a puzzle we must solve before December 21, 2012? Jesus said that 'the truth would set us free'. We seem to be in a very strange predicament. It's almost as if we are serving a sentence for some ancient atrocity or original sin. I think we need a multidisciplinary search for truth which is very motivated and organized. It feels as if we are running out of time.

    A very long time ago - while I was playing a huge pipe-organ - I had a Eureka Phenomenon Moment - and thought that a lot of the very abstract and complex organ music is the Music of a Sin-Sick Soul. I love the music - but it is deeply spiritual and deeply involved in conflict and reflection. I have rarely heard this music properly interpreted - with it's full emotional and spiritual potential fully reflected in the registration and performance. Did Lucifer inspire or write a lot of this music?

    Where are you bravodawson? You last visited your channel 2 years ago. You have not commented on your channel - despite numerous questions by others. I haven't seen you comment here below your video. What gives? Are you OK? The video is high quality - and very different from the usual view of Lucifer. I am very suspicious at this point. Do you live in an underground base? Are you Lucifer? Have you posted here under a different name? This inquiring mind needs to know on a need to know basis!

    Google 'Mark Dice interviews Lynn Picknett author of The Secret History of Lucifer' for a contentious interview which touches on a positive view of Lucifer. Someone should start at the beginning of the video comments - and read every one. I'm going to do this over the next few days. Google 'abraxasinas' and/or the 'Council of Thuban' for some very, very strange and complex material, which I think could be related to Lucifer. Reader beware. Some have had problems connected with this material.

    Actually - type 'Stargate SG-1 Awesome Gods?' into the You Tube search field. Look closely at the anatomy of the 'angel' at 2:30 (in the 'True Form of Lucifer' video). Am I seeing things which might indicate a hermaphrodite? Regardless of who Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, Adam, Eve, Lilith, Reptilians, Greys, Gods, Goddesses, God, and Satan are or aren't - could there be, or have been, Hermaphroditic Human/Reptile hybrids with various percentage differentials? We should consider all of the possibilities - shouldn't we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg

    I think we may not be dealing the Creator God of the Universe - but rather with Minor Gods and Goddesses - who may be a mixture of good and evil, competence and incompetence, sanity and insanity, mercy and cruelty, etc. They may have created our theologies and mythologies. I'm thinking that we all get recycled - whether we are good or bad - but that we should create a better world to get recycled back into.

    I'm not sure if the human race is ready for a journey into the truly esoteric. Things are so screwed-up and we are so screwed-up. But I do think that working outward from the word 'RESPONSIBILITY' is the way to go. How each person does this is up to them. I have huge problems with the way things are - but the alternatives might turn out to be a lot worse. Don't jump out of the frying-pan - and into the fire. Things might have to get a lot worse - before they get better. Hang in there!

    I just wish for a perfected humanity to inhabit a perfected solar system, without cruel eugenics and experimentation, conquest, extermination, enslavement, etc. I wish for a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System, with 10,000 representatives from throughout the solar system, with say 4 billion people on Earth (2 billion underground - 2 billion surface) and 4 billion in the rest of the solar system.

    I was going to stop - but this is insane. What violent, bloody, sacrificing, hateful, idolatrous web page did I give you? I could have simply referred you to the Bible for the miserable things you mentioned. Open your eyes and read without presupposition - and you will be shocked at what you find in the Bible. Read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy - and cap it off with Revelation. Be completely honest. This stuff is horrendous. Just focus on RESPONSIBILITY.

    This world is insane. Evolution seems to be working in reverse. I am sick and tired of the stupidity and insanity I see everywhere. I mostly blame those in the highest positions of irresponsibility in this world and solar system. Garbage in - garbage out. Has RESPONSIBILITY been focused upon at any time in the entire history of the world? Is it being focused upon today? Obama mentioned it in his inaugural address - but I doubt that his handlers would relish a world based upon RESPONSIBILITY.

    I am not a Christian or a Satanist. (I don't go to church or belong to any organization -- but my belief-system leans strongly toward Christianity.) I adore the best the Bible has to offer - but I despise the worst it has to offer - especially in God's name. I want a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System - based upon the U.S. Constitution and the Principles in the Teachings of Jesus - chiefly RESPONSIBILITY. Why is this so hard? We need to wake-up to how bad things really are - and then we need to fix it. I really think we're running out of time. Read 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper.

    Once again - I just want to wish Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al - a terrific day. I really think we can work this thing out - without enslavement, extermination, Star Wars, or Masters of the Universe. Imagine 10,000 very competent humans engaging in Global and Solar System Governance - with advisors which might include all of the above. The absolute power corrupting thing seems to be the big problem. Namaste.

    I thought God put out a contract on Sodom and Gomorrah - which was carried out by a couple of angels when they nuked the 'Cities of the Plain' - and thus committed mass-murder in God's name. Good thing they saved 'Righteous Lot' - who had just offered his daughters up to be sexually abused by a mob of perverts. Strange world. The substitutionary atonement is nothing more than human sacrifice. Is the Eucharistic Liturgy essentially a Satanic Ritual? I must stop.

    Sometimes I feel as though I'm morphing into Darth Vader. Do we have to understand the Dark Side of the Force in order to resolve this mess? Just as I typed this - a bright point of light (my guardian monitor?) passed between me and the monitor. I've seen that happen before. The horror. Sometimes I curse and flip-off the unseen beings around me. I'll probably lose my finger one of these times. The horror. Sometimes I speak to them of galactic issues - although I don't wish for them to reply.

    Watch the 'Last Temptation of Christ - Jesus Tempted by the Devil' on You Tube. Is the slick-haired male 'Satan' aka 'Gabriel' aka 'Ra' aka 'Sirius God'? Is the 'Woman in Red' the 'Whore of Babylon' aka 'Lucifer' aka 'Hathor' aka 'Isis' aka 'Mary' aka 'Mediatrix' aka 'Baldacchino'? Is Jesus really 'Horus' aka 'Last Pharaoh' aka 'Michael'? Is the 'Woman in Red' the mediator between the two men? Is this 'Woman in Red' currently 'Anna in V'? Is 'Anna' caught between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea?

    Are the Archangels men or women - or both? Or are they all one? Satan said 'it's only just begun'. Jesus cried and cried. Why? Are we Prisoners of War on a Prison Planet with Grey Guards - a Hermaphroditic Human/Reptile Hybrid Goddess/Warden - taking orders from a Reptilian God of This World? Watch 'Pale Blue Dot', 'Leo Zagami - 2012 Armageddon', 'Legion Trailer', and 'Stargate - Devil Came to Me' on You Tube. How much trouble are we really in? How do we fix it? Conduit Closing. The horror. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU

    What if all of us are 'fallen angels'? What if heaven wasn't really heaven - and there was a legitimate rebellion which got out of control? Would 33.33% of the heavenly population have joined Lucifer if there weren't some convincing arguments for doing so? How many fence-riders were there? Fence-riders form splinter-groups! The Babylonian and Egyptian continuity through Roman Catholicism is fascinating. Can hermaphroditic angels have wives? The plumbing wouldn't be a problem - would it?

    I think that there are at least a million people who really, really know the full and uncensored story of human history - but they don't seem to be talking. This makes all of this a great big guessing game. Perhaps it has to be this way - but I hate it with a vengeance. I feel as though this world has been out of control throughout it's history. Perhaps Earth is a Devil's Island for Rebels - and we got dumped here - and left to our own devices - as an example to the rest of the universe.

    When Henry Kissinger was finding out about a lot of things (including the 'alien presence') he worked night and day - and would speak to no one - not even his wife - and they eventually divorced. He couldn't have been finding out about good and happy things. Notice that Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski shepherd President after President. David Rockefeller is another one who I am sure knows everything about everything. I believe that these people do as they are told. Just speculation.

    In all of my internet comments - including the ones under this video - I have absolutely no animosity toward anyone. I'm just trying to talk out a unified theory of what the hell is going on. I really wish to unite various factions under a big tent. I don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing kumbaya - and I don't expect things to ever be really good. I'd just like to see a reasonably peaceful and happy solar system - going forward for millions of years. Hope springs eternal.

    Take a long, hard look at Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer - from all sources and angles. Also - watch the 'Stargate SG-1' series and 'V' series. I know I'm being repetitious. Read 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White. Read 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper. I'm not trying to represent that I have 'the truth'. I'm just trying to stimulate creative thinking regarding subjects which may be very important for all of us. Get lots of exercise in nature, and a lot of rest. Good-luck!

    The problem is that the Bible doesn't say a helluva lot about Lucifer (hardly mentioned), the devil or demons (mostly in the Gospels). I find this to be very curious and suspicious. Jesus said that the angels didn't marry. If they were hermaphroditic they wouldn't need to marry - would they? In general - the words of Jesus seem to be in conflict with the rest of the Bible - and they don't seem to be followed by the church. What is the true nature of the soul? Are all souls basically identical?

    Look-up Angels, Archangels, Gabriel, Michael, Lucifer, Satan, the Devil and Demons - in a Concordance (preferably Strong's). You may be shocked at their absence in the Old Testament - and at their scarcity in the New Testament (outside of the Gospels). The Teachings of Jesus seem to be at war with the rest of the Bible and with the Christian Church. The Roman Catholic Church ran the biblical cannonization (and redacting?) process. Who ran and runs the Roman Catholic Church?

    Watch 'Empire of the City' or 'Ring of Power'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0PHt1HDQI Also watch 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEBMHjSobk One cannot simply rely upon biblical proof-texts to get at the real truth regarding solar system governance. I think the world will be shocked by how things really work when the entire truth emerges - if it ever emerges. While you're at it - Google Alex Collier - for some very strange material. I don't believe a lot of it - but Alex offers up a helluva lot of forbidden knowledge.

    I'm thinking that all of the humanoid beings in the universe have the same type of souls - but inhabit different types of bodies - in various stages of hybridization, genetic-programming, or evolution. This includes Angels, Demons, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Gods, Goddesses, Reptilians, Greys, Aliens, PGLF's, et al. Oh what a tangled web we weave - when we try to take over and rule the whole GD universe! I think the deception is rampant - and completely out of control. I am very disillusioned.

    While you try to figure all of this out - try watching or listening to 'Traditional Latin Mass: Feast of the Sacred Heart' on You Tube. I do this a couple of times a week. I'm sort of ultra-conservative, ultra-liberal, apologetic, heretical, etc. - all in one. I'm sort of an orthodoxymoron. Google 'redletterchurch' and 'orthodoxymoron' if you really want to get screwed-up! Have fun! Don't take this stuff too seriously! Treat it like science-fiction or a mystery novel. I really am going to stop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE

    Have a terrific day Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al. We can work this thing out without enslavement, extermination, or Star Wars. Imagine 10,000 very competent humans engaging in Global and Solar System Governance with advisors which might include all of the above. The absolute power corrupting thing seems to be the big problem. I'm trying to think like an uncorrupted renegade Jesuit or Alphabet Agent. Funny huh?

    I like thinking about how things really work in the world, solar system, galaxy, and universe - without getting involved in a lot of the creepy or really weird topics and theories. I don't really see eye to eye with anyone. If you were in charge of this world or solar system - what would you do? If Lucifer is a lot like Anna ('V') and runs the solar system - what would it be like to do what they do? What would it be like to deal with Presidents, Popes, CEO's, Generals, Jesuits, et al every day?


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:00 pm

    Here is just some more reposting of old posts. I think I'm in sort of a 'holding-pattern' right now. My posting experience has been rather creepy and unsettling, because of the lack of meaningful conversation. It's been pretty much one-way -- but perhaps this has been a character-building experience. I'd still like to really get into a deep online discussion -- and it would need to be online -- because I'm too exhausted and burned-out to do this sort of thing in 'real-life' in the 'real-world' in 'real-time'. Preparing me for a press-conference would be like reinventing the wheel. What Would Ronald Reagan Say?? What Would Alexander Haig Say??

    I like science-fiction -- but it always seems to involve chasing and fighting. Perhaps I should just study astronomy -- and use my imagination to create non-violent, non-creepy science-fiction. I feel as if I need to go in a completely different direction -- but I'm just not sure which way to jump. Perhaps Astronomy combined with Classical-Music would be a winning combination. BTW -- I suspect that there will be some sort of a 'God-Off' in the near future. This should be interesting! Could someone arrange to get me a front-row seat and a back-stage pass?? Actually, I'd probably rather watch this sort of thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06_WFtZplyY Think of this as being orthodoxymoron and the Queen of Heaven! Sorry if that offends anyone. Really. Anyway, I hope you enjoy reading the blast from the past posted below:

    I like thinking about being a part of a completely non-corrupt solar system government staffed with very, very wise and competent people, with most governmental activities viewable by the general public in real time online. Advanced technology and spacecraft, underground bases, leviton trains, and highly refined people, are all fascinating to contemplate. Why is there war, starvation, preventable disease, destitute poverty, and environmental irresponsibility in our 'civilized world'? WTF?

    I look forward to the time when most people can discuss politics and religion extensively - without getting angry. Consider Psychology/Ethics/Politics/Rel­igion/Science as a unified and non-contradictory whole. If Lucifer runs things - and retired - would this usher in a chaotic power struggle? Could we really rule ourselves? I have been mysteriously told 'you can't rule yourselves'. What is the substance to that chilling pronouncement? Who said that to me? Could it have been Lucifer? Hmmmmmm

    Google 'Omega Files' for a fascinating look at what might be a part of a Luciferian Secret Government. I obviously don't know what's true and false in fringe research, but it doesn't hurt to consider everything from all angles all the time, without getting mad or going mad. If there is a secret government, it shouldn't be secret. I don't necessarily object to the infrastructure and the best of their alleged activities - but I despise the worst of what they are supposedly mixed-up in. The horror. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafileintro.htm

    I'm thinking most 'Humanoid Aliens' are really Human/Reptile Hybrids with Human Souls. I'm not sure which Heins 57 Variety was here first. Does it really matter? Who has the right to continue living here? We need a Solar System Exorcism to rid us of the worst of the worst. They could be imprisoned on Nibiru until they learn to play nice. We need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka United States of the Solar System based on the U.S. Constitution and Teachings of Jesus.

    Have a terrific day Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al. We can work this out without enslavement, extermination, or Star Wars. Imagine 10,000 competent people engaging in Global and Solar System Governance with advisors which might include all of the above. The absolute power corrupting thing seems to be the big problem. I'm trying to think like an uncorrupted and unfallen Lucifer - thinking her thoughts after her!

    Should Hybrids be considered to be Humans? Should Nibiru be considered part of the Solar System? What is Lucifer doing presently? What should Lucifer do after she retires? Would a Solar System without Gods or Goddesses really work over an extended period of time? So many questions. So little time.

    Consider the King James Version of the Bible, the Writings of Ellen G. White, and the Writings of William Shakespeare. Who really and truly wrote them? Who told them what to write? Is there a common authorship? Lucifer perhaps? The writing style and spirituality is quite profound - but I have huge problems with a lot of the details. I'm grasping at straws with this post - but please do some esoteric research if you have time. I'm toying with the idea that an 'Anna-like' Lucifer is behind a lot of things.

    I recommend 'God and the New Physics' by Paul Davies - and 'Dancing Wu Li Masters' by Gary Zukav. I have problems with Quantum Entanglement - and also with the implications and ramifications of the Theory of Relativity. Has the human race been seeded with screwy philosophy and science? I think so. My spirituality and scientific acumen seemed to peak around puberty. Then I proceded to become disillusioned by just about everything. It's been downhill ever since.

    Consider all of the Malachi Martin videos on You Tube - especially the Art Bell interviews which touch on Luciferianism and Satanism. 'The Keys of This Blood' is quite interesting as well. The human race seems to have been led through a very deceptive and bloody wilderness for at least 40,000 years by those who knew better. I am horrified by the past - and very apprehensive regarding the future. Something has been very, very wrong for a long, long time. The horror.

    Is Lucifer the controlling force in most governments and religions? It's as if the entire world is on a leviton train...and Lucifer is the engineer and the conductor...and this train isn't stopping for anyone or anything...including Jesus Christ and the U.S. Constitution. They have both become hood-ornaments on this hell-bound leviton train. My solution is to infuse the U.S. Constitution with the principles and concepts contained in the Teachings of Jesus and go global.

    The 'Law of Confusion' is a descriptive and appropriate term...but I tend to eschew obfuscation...and to espouse elucidation. A Christocentric eschatological theological approach to scriptural studies which utilizes the concept of comprehensive concentration......which assumes the red-letter teachings of Jesus as being fundamental...with the remaining portions of the biblical canon as being merely contextual...cross-referencing utilizing a Strong's Concordance...and applying the accepted norms of grammatical-historical hermeneutics...is supremely beneficial regarding definitively and devotionally ascertaining the Christ Conscious Aspects of the First Source and Center of All Things...to fully experience Jesus as Lord in modernity......being careful to exegete...rather than eisegetically twisting and corrupting the sacred texts to conform to canon law (there is no substantial body of evidence which substantiates transubstantiation)...so as not to become a reprehensible and reprobate hermeneutic whore...a cursed Judas Iscariot in dire need of prostrate penetance, confession, repentance, and reconciliation...and in grave danger of burning for all eternity as a sinner in the hands of an angry God. World Without End. Amen.

    Study carefully Anna in the ABC series 'V' which started in the fall of 2009 - and is a remake of the 1983-85 'V' series. Morena Baccarin plays Anna - and has also been featured as an Ori leader in 'Stargate SG-1'. The full 2009-10 'V' series (so far) is being released on DVD. I'm trying to think of Anna as being Lucifer, or at least representing aspects of what I think of as Luciferian. This is mostly new territory for me. I am of peace.

    In the movie 'Contact' - beginning around 00:40 - who is the attractive pigmented women who seems to be running things behind the scenes? Who are the 'Black Madonna' and 'Kali' really? Anna? Damned if I know - but I'm really not seeing a lot of really vigorous and independent alternative thinking regarding this very important and pressing subject. I keeping asking questions and making speculations - and the silence is deafening. Did the MIAC stage the 'alien event' in 'Contact'? Hmmmmmmmmm

    Google 'Roger Morneau' and 'New World Order - Devil in the Vatican' for a couple of real eye-openers. I have repeatedly suggested that Lucifer might be the Biblical 'Whore of Babylon'. I hate that name - and no offence to you Lucifer - but I am simply trying to determine what the hell has been going on in this solar system for tens of thousands of years. I just think that it's time for the esoteric to become exoteric. Everyone should at least have the opportunity to be on the same page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLp9xigjajM

    Is there a good side and a bad side to Lucifer? If so - shouldn't we be fully aware of both of these sides? In the 'Stargate Atlantis' movie - there is a female Wraith character who is very creepy. Could this be representative of a deranged goddess - who at one time had been highly intelligent and refined - but who had gone insane? I continue to speculate that absolute power inevitably leads to corruption and insanity - with virtually no exceptions. I'm not sure what the proper balance point is.

    An underground centralized world government has some attractive features - but if such a government exists - it really should not be secret and/or dictatorial. I don't object to a lot of the way things are in the world - but I do wish for things to be cleaned-up and refined. The 'alien presence' as 'secret government' theme continues to fascinate me - but the secrecy and bs are very hard to overcome - and I feel as though I'm spinning my wheels as I slide further from the center of the wheel.

    The experiential aspects of Christianity are valid and wholesome, but I am concerned by a lot of the details in the sacred texts, and with the skeletons in the confessional. I think a lot of people are going to lose their faith and go nuts in the next few years. I'm trying to put out a lot of fires by starting some preemptive fires - which might backfire. Consider a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System based upon the U.S. Constitution and Teachings of Jesus.

    The technology and light we were supposedly given might not be in our best interest. Consider nuclear weapons and the social implications of the theory of evolution - and who knows what else. We need to focus on responsibility - and take a step back from irresponsible and destructive industrialization and technology. The 'quickening' which Art Bell refers to is a valid point. Engines which rev too highly - EXPLODE!! Our world may be on the verge of exploding in more ways than one.

    Regardless of whether you are Luciferian, Satanist, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Indifferent, or Damned if I Know - try reading the Four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) straight through a couple of times. This is a good mental and spiritual exercise - regardless of what conclusions you arrive at. Then - try getting a lot of exercise in nature - and a lot of rest. Top it off with some really good food and music - and see what that does for you! Just a thought.

    Lucifer - would you consider posting here? I keep thinking about solar system governance, and I keep wondering if it requires a single authority, a committee, a general assembly, or everyone, to properly run things. Why does everything important seem to be off-limits to us goyim? What is a legitimate threat to National Security, and what is a threat to Megalomaniacs Anonymous? I'm really not clear on who the good-guys and who the bad-guys are. I see a masters vs cattle paradigm. I don't approve.

    Lucifer, I keep thinking of you as being an eccentric, corrupted, and unbalanced 'Anna', who is very bright, yet is not doing that which is in the best interests of the Human Race. Is this unfair and/or inaccurate? Why rule by secrecy? Why is history filled with lies, corruption, insanity, and violence? Why don't we have a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system? Why are the sacred texts and religions so insanely contradictory? Why is everything not based upon responsibility?

    Lucifer: Do you live in an underground base? Do you travel the world in magneto-leviton trains? Do you travel the solar system in ufo's? Do you play pipe-organs in cathedrals? Do you directly rule the City States - and thus the world? Why was a simple system of psychology/ethics/politics/rel­igion/spirituality/science/law based upon responsibility not established in the ancient world? Why isn't there one today? What do you think of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System?

    Lucifer: Are you mad at me for asking so many questions, and being so brash and irreverent? Have you dispatched 'angels' to reign me in? What is the true power structure in this solar system and galaxy? Why aren't we being told the truth about everything? Have you manifested as Lilith, Hathor, Isis, Mary, et al? Did you write the Bible? If you have been evil and committed atrocities, is there redemption for you? Are you responsible for the Reptilian and Grey phenomenon? What's going on? Namaste.

    I get most of my info about Jesus from the words attributed to Him in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. This is a different Jesus than the one encountered in church on any Sunday. Come to think of it, did Jesus tell us to go to church on Sunday? Did Jesus tell us to go to church on Saturday (Sabbath)? Did Jesus tell us to go to church at all? I can't find the texts. Please help! Thank-you for your prayer. I regularly watch a Latin Mass from France on You Tube!

    I agree with a lot of what a particular self-proclaimed Satanist says philosophically - but I don't understand why they are so hostile toward Jesus and Christians. Why not go after corrupt Sirius Centered Babyonian/Egyptian/Roman Goddess Ruled Churchianity? Once again, I am not a Christian, Luciferian, or Satanist. My hope is built on nothing less than an esoteric understanding of the Teachings of Jesus. I'm presently considering all of the forbidden knowledge on the internet, in the light of the words of Christ. Crucifixes Suck.

    I'm leaning toward the theory of a feminine Lucifer, but proof is hard to come by for any of this sort of thing. The evidence is thin and scattered. I arrived at this bias before I saw this video. I am pursuing a theory of Goddess Rulership of Earth - just to see where it leads. It's a combination of evidence and imagination - and it's really a very strange space to be in. I don't recommend this pursuit for most people. It's making me nuttier than I already was - and that's pretty bad.

    Christianity has thrived through misrepresentation rather than through honesty. It has thrived on lies. Now - too many people are asking too many hard questions. Game over. However, there is honest truth contained in all sacred texts. You just have to be a glutton for punishment to get at it, and to establish it in people's thinking. Your Lucifer is essentially a figment of the imagination. The Christian's Jesus is essentially a figment of the imagination. We see what we wish to see.

    Albert Schweitzer - in the 'Quest of the Historical Jesus' arrived at very negative conclusions regarding the validity and reality of the Historical Jesus - yet Schweitzer was very positive and supportive of the Teachings of Jesus. I agree. I have some Schweitzer quotes in my computer - and one day I found key portions of these quotes in bold print. I didn't do this. Honestly. My enemy is BS. I am trying to contemplate a Post BS Solar System. I am trying to follow the truth wherever it leads.

    I am fascinated by the concept of strong, intelligent, and beautiful black women as goddesses with complete reincarnational recall, use of 100% of brain capacity, and complete access to all ancient texts, wisdom, and technology - and possibly being hybrids living in underground bases and temples - and constituting the Secret Government - a Babylonian/Egyptian/Grecian/Ro­man Theocracy - with the City States as the tip of the iceberg of an Underground Empire. I'm sane - aren't I? Please say yes!!

    I'm really going to go out on a limb with this comment. I heard a fairly authoritative speaker say that the Pope (possibly John Paul II) would go down into the basement of the Vatican every morning, and kiss a statue of the Black Madonna. But what if she wasn't a statue? I heard a reliable source say that a priest asked 'What if God is a Black Woman?' I have also heard reports of an Underground Base under the Vatican containing Reptilian Beings. Consider who ruled Kemet in Ancient Egypt. Hmmmmmm

    I want to take a vacation from the razzmatazz (I got that word from abraxasinas) - but here I go again. This was a short unedited internet exchange I had some time ago:

    ME: What if the aliens who have been here for thousands of years are the 'bad-guys'? What if we will need the help of good aliens from elsewhere to get rid of the demonic aliens who are already here? Could this be viewed as a hostile alien attack? I really don't know. I am just speculating.

    THEM: Try not to think in terms of good or bad. Understand this is not your planet. Then, understand nothing can be done to you that you don't do to yourself. Know that there are quadrillions of planets and they don't have a massive climate change every 26,000 years and violent deranged people like yourselves. Why on Earth would any race want to live here with you knowingly? The most intelligent life on the planet is not human.

    ME: I'll try not to think of the Iraq War in terms of good or bad. I'll try to be morally ambiguous. I might even become CIA or a CEO. Hey, maybe violent and deranged is neither good nor bad...but thinking makes it so. The aliens who are here need us to not get our acts together. If that happens...they'll probably have to live on Nibiru...or worse. Sorry for being a smart-@ss. Wait...I'm not sorry...it's neither good nor bad. I couldn't resist. I mean well. Really.

    THEM: And your point was?........

    ME: Who owns earth? Where do humans belong? What is the most intelligent life on earth? If they are so smart, and earth is so bad...why are they here? I may be deranged...but I'm not violent. You sound as though you are not human...are you an alien? If so...what kind...and from where? My point was that ethics are supremely important. I don't hurt, kill, terrorize, or abduct people...but some aliens apparently do(as do some humans). They should stop.

    Don't take my comments too seriously. I'm just blowing off some excess steam to keep from exploding! The devil made me do it. I think I got most of it out of my system, and I mean no harm. I am of peace. I am a seeker of 'The Bliss'. I just see patterns in the clouds, and everywhere. I am a true believer in the apotelesmatic principle. My attention to this subject should probably be taken as a complement rather than a hateful slam. I'm just trying to understand.

    I have had some exposure to Robert Morningsky and the Terra Papers, but I will have to spend more time with them. I hesitated to make all of the posts above - but I thought it might stimulate someone to arrive at the REAL answers. I'm just pursuing an admittedly off the wall hypothesis which could make a lot of people very angry at me - and not without legitimate reason. I am VERY uncomfortable with all of this. I have more, which I will post later today. Veritas and Conscious Media Network are both great resources and repositories of quality information.

    I am probably a composite of Pinky and the Brain - or Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb! Actually - I guess I just want to see who the man or woman behind the curtain really is. I actually feel like an insightful and virtuous - yet unstable and incompetent - wannabe somebody! The madness continues:

    Wanna go on a debate-date Lucifer? We could debate architecture, music, theology, eschatology, universal history, universal governance, and transition of power at Mork 'n Ork's Grey Bar on the Dark Side of the Moon! What shall we talk about? We could discuss the Soteriological and Eschatological Implications of the Hybrid Nature of the God of This World - or Original Sin in Heaven: The Mystery of Iniquity in the Great Controversy Between the Reptilian and Human Races in the Conflict of the Ages.

    That would just be an appetizer. Protection would obviously be a major concern. You'd have to promise not to bite my head off on the first date. I'm not really into the really rough stuff...like black widow tough love. (In 'V' - notice what happened when Anna mated with a Supersoldier --- she bit his %^&* head off to nourish her eggs! I posted this debate-date stuff before the 'V' series went to air. You don't suppose!! Nah!) You're the one my mother warned me about...in the book of Revelation! The NSA wouldn't mind handling the logistics...would they? Do you mind if I call you Lucy? If the date goes well...I could say 'I love Lucy!'

    There have been some very interesting and angry comments directed toward me regarding my speculations and venturings. This is all just a test. This is only a test. This is pseudointellectual research at its best! When I commented on the "Devil Came to Me - Stargate' video (on You Tube), I received this response: 'Y'all love fantisizing over my ancestral decorations, places, spirituality that you don't get, the greatness you won't achieve, and the melanin you'll never have!. This depiction of my ancestors is pathetic. Y'all always make them look just as degenerative and recessive as you. Anyway, play and have fun as much as you still can. Yes you are running out of time, and to be honest, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I have no mercy, you lie and mock and blaspheme all the way to hell.'

    The following comment was in response to me pretending to be the alien KRLLL: 'You know this isn't funny! The Lord God will judge you for claiming God ship. Just because God showed you a little bit of His secrets you think you know everything. He will NOT have mercy on you!'

    I once heard a mocking, sing-song, high-pitched feminine sounding voice...emanating from a usually deep and masculine voiced televangelist...directed toward me...in public...almost shouting 'That was gooooooood!!!!'...in reaction to a polite, well intentioned, and well reasoned comment by me.

    Have a terrific day Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al. I'd like to meet all of you when this mess gets resolved. We need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka United States of the Solar System based on the U.S. Constitution and Teachings of Jesus. Repetition, repetition, repetition, and ACTION! (Thank-you W. Clement Stone). I'm trying to understand Lucifer by thinking her thoughts after her!

    I just can't stop. Watch 'Avatar' - and think of Pandora as being the hypothetical 'Hollow Earth' (where else could mountains fly?) - and think of the indigenous population as being reptilian beings with human souls. Then think of the female spiritual leader as possibly being a Lucifer/Goddess figure. I am not necessarily anti-Lucifer despite my flippant comments. I'm just trying to understand what could be an unbelievably complex and awkward situation. Thinking outloud might help others.

    Once again - watch the movie 'Contact' - especially from 00:40 to 01:35 - and notice the behind the scenes lady in charge dressed first in grey, and then in blue or purple. Notice the facial expressions, the eye and head movements - and then watch Dr. Steven Greer at the 2001 Disclosure press conference (especially after the question directed to Clifford Stone) - and notice the similarity. This is probably insignificant and irrelevant - but for those who might be interested - take a look. Was Mr. Hadden a Teutonic Zionist? Was the 'event' staged by the secret space program? Why all the God talk?

    Is there a similarity between Morena Baccarin as Ori leader in 'Stargate SG-1' and Morena as Anna in the series 'V' (regarding the characters and roles portrayed) AND the powerful and pretty lady in grey (later in purple) in 'Contact' who seems to be VERY in charge? I'm just grasping at straws regarding the female Lucifer theme - wherein Lucifer is not the stereotypical red-guy with horns and a tail. Mr. Hadden almost seems like a Satan figure - again in a non-stereotypical manner.

    My last three comments were real stretches, and I am slightly embarrassed. On the other hand, is it necessary to have a very intelligent and very competent behind the scenes individual shuttling secretly thoughout the world directing this and mediating that? Who really determines what goes into teleprompters around the world? Who has veto power? I mentioned Dr. Greer mainly because he seems to have a direct connection to the so-called 'alien presence'. I'm just trying to figure out the madness.

    Being asleep is a bad thing. Being a rebel without a clue is a bad thing. Where is the proper balance? I'm going to attempt to study the U.N., Washington D.C., the City of London, and the Vatican - in a detached and neutral manner - noting both the positives and negatives - the exoteric and esoteric - and then contemplate positive evolutionary solutions. From time to time I might see Lucifer lurking in the shadows. I might even ask her out on a date...

    This subject is so frightening to me - that I have to treat it like a big science fiction joke - sort of like a surgeon listening to rock music and telling jokes while performing brain surgery. 'The Schiavo case was a no-brainer. Oops! There goes the piano lessons! My bad! Anyone wanna go for a ride in my new Enzo Ferrari?' Sorry. I sometimes wonder if Lucifer sometimes performs critical aspects of certain surgeries. How far down do certain Otis elevators really go into the sub-levels of certain hospitals? What are those proton-accelerators really used for - other than targeting tumors - without destroying the surrounding healthy tissue? What would the DOE say? What would 'Time to Tell the World' say? Notice the dominant high-technology medical theme in 'V'? Is modern medicine as much a part of the New World Order as the Military Industrial Alien Complex seems to be? I've made my point. Now I need to stop. They have ways to make me stop! Don't chip me bro! Don't vaccinate me bro! Aaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!

    This is sort of like Fan-Fiction - except that the subject and intent are very serious - and the speculation is intended to be as close to the mark as possible. This just seems like an appropriate forum on which to hash this stuff out. I don't create scenes in public. Not yet anyway! Unrelatedly - when I speak of Zionism and Teutonic Zionism - I am not referring to the Jewish and German people. I am not anti-Semetic in any way, shape, or form. Nor am I racist or sexist in any way, shape, or form - even though I occasionally make references to plumbing, and various pigmentation levels - which might be interpreted in a non-complementary manner. I do fully understand that I have the right to remain silent - and that everything I say can and will be used against me - and that my words could be used in nepharious ways - added thereto, or truncated! There seems to be 3 or 4 key factions at work in the world which seem to be mostly hidden - and I am just trying to figure out what the hell is really going on. I am not angry at the mainstream media - but just watching the major news sources will not provide many clues, missing links, or missing pieces of the big-picture puzzle. It's one thing to rant, rave, and ask provocative questions - but quite another thing to actually be responsible for changing a VERY entrenched system. It's one thing to conceptualize something - and quite another thing to actually put it into practice. And even the conceptualizing can be flawed, or completely wrong. Thinking that one knows - and knowing - are two very different things. I'm almost starting to feel sorry for Megalomaniacs Anonymous. Almost.

    Please get a DVD of the movie 'Contact', and watch it a couple of times - focusing on 00:35:00 to 01:35:00 - and especially noticing the very pretty and extremely intelligent White House 'lady in charge'. (I'm in love) You'll know who I'm talking about when you watch it. Who is her counterpart in the actual White House? She seems to be much more in charge than President Clinton - but of course Alex Collier said that 'Clinton is a janitor - and when the secret government says 'jump!' - he asks 'how high?'' Notice how alive she seems to be - compared with the dead-heads around her. Is she the prime representative of one of the factions of the secret government - or is she Lucifer herself? Please don't get mad at me. I'm just speculating regarding an unconventional Lucifer - who is a mixture of good and evil - and who is much smarter than most people. Notice the similarity between her and Anna ('V').

    I have a sinking feeling that my internet posting is a losing battle. Most people don't want to slog through the BS with me in search of the good stuff. I won't lie to people, or delve into the spooky and sensational realms of the netherworld - even though the powers that be that I cannot see sometimes make their presence known to me in the 'privacy' of my own home. The more I try to come up with real answers - the more I feel as though I am in the crosshairs of some really nasty entities. I'm glad I can't see them. So far - all I occasionally see are fleeting points of light which seem to appear when I am reading a speech (JFK) out loud, or posting something particularly pointed or controversial which exposes or confronts the darkside. Come-on! Let's go!

    Does this subject scare you? I have stated it before, and I will keep stating it, that theology is central to disclosure. Just don't believe everything the preachers and televangelists tell you! Study the Bible and theology books on your own - in combination with all of the fringe material. Try reading the Four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John - in the New King James Version of the Holy Bible - over and over and over again. Did Lucifer inspire or write most of the Bible? Are both Lucifer and the Bible a mixture of good and evil? If you believe that the Bible is the Word of the Creator God of the Universe - and that Preachers and Televangelists tell the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth - may I suggest that you are Massively Deluded and Living in Denial? On the other hand - If you are an Atheist who knows nothing of theology - and will not even consider the subject - and do not believe in any type of Intelligent Design - may I suggest that you are Massively Deluded and Living in Denial? I often think that the only people who really identify with what I'm talking about are Jesuits and Alphabet Agents - and those (human and otherwise) who live in Underground Bases Throughout the Solar System.

    I keep thinking of a goddess killing a god - stealing this god's technology - and ruling Earth - from the Garden of Eden to the present. There is an aspect of the goddess concept which I like - and there is an aspect which I despise and oppose. There is an aspect of Anna in 'V' which I really like - and there is an aspect which is hideously reprehensible. My soul and reptilian questions are very relevant to the goddess concept - which includes the mythology and reality of the goddess in ancient Egypt. I am running with the concept of Lucifer = Lilith = Hathor = Isis = Mary and others. In other words - a single key entity who reincarnates endlessly into human/reptile/hermaphroditic bodies - with total reincarnational recall and 100% use of the brain - and complete access to the Vatican library and other repositories of ancient wisdom and technology - which could include the complete contents of the Library of Alexandria (was there a duplicate created before the fire, or were the best contents removed before the fire?) - which might include antigravity craft, zero-point energy, atomic energy, nuclear weapons, tectonic weapons, supercomputers, genetic manipulation and hybridization, etc. What if all of this wisdom and technology was really stolen from us? I'm just going to keep pressing forward with this line of thinking to see where it leads. Obviously, the proof will probably be virtually non-existant, and circumstantial evidence may have to suffice until insiders really start fessing up in the confessional - and the skeletons start falling out onto the floor. Don't hold your breath.

    Usually the Whore of Babylon is equated with the Roman Catholic Church. I think this is incorrect. I think the Whore of Babylon may give orders to the Black Pope. I suspect it - but I can't prove it. I just can't get away from the thought of being in the Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican, with the Black Pope, the Top-Ranking Jesuits, the Whore of Babylon, and a Nine Foot Tall Drac (Head Pimp and Chairman of the Board) - listening to a completely open debate regarding forbidden knowledge. I'm thinking this would send me sobbing uncontrollably into the night. As interested and nice as we are - we are amateurs. I think an alphabet-type told Kerry something to that effect. There is a certain arrogance to this - but there is also a certain truth to it as well. My emotional state, and my thinking ability, are severely compromised. I know I'm not even close to hitting bedrock in my search for truth, solutions, security, and happiness. I am very concerned that the old paradigms and lies are going to be replaced by new paradigms and lies - which continue to bypass the real truths and answers. I'm seeing an ongoing infowar rather than a golden age of peace and happiness. I so hope that I'm wrong. Kali was/is the black Indian goddess who kills lots and lots of people. Sort of reminds me of Hathor on a bad day. I'm thinking that all of the different gods and goddesses may represent the various aspects of a single god or goddess - and, as you know, I am leaning toward the unified goddess hypothesis. But I can't prove it. If I could - I'd probably be history. I have heard that Lucifer is dead - but could this be an exaggeration? Would Lucifer prefer that people think that he or she is dead? I'm thinking that Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer are alive and well - and living in this solar system - and that they might lead the three primary competing factions in this neck of the woods. I'm not subscribing to a lot of the 'dozens of alien races from distant stars, inhabiting numerous dimensions and densities new age mumbo jumbo. I'm going to attempt to exhaust theories which place nearly everything 'alien' within this solar system - and which involve humans, reptiles (as in dinosaurs or sauroids), and human/reptile hybrids - all with the same type of soul (which can reincarnate into any of these varieties). I'm also toying with the idea that interdimensional reptilians and human souls are one and the same thing - and that what I just said in the last couple of sentences constitutes 99% of the so called 'alien presence'. (at least for the last 10,000 years, or so) I think that some very, very evil laboratories have existed in this solar system for thousands of years - and have produced many varieties of Frankenstein's Monster. The truth may be sharper than Occam's Razor - and it may cut both ways.

    I think that the Creator God of the Universe set things up in a most excellent way - and then things got screwed-up in a most horrible manner. I'm not sure who was/is responsible - but justice needs to be served - and law and order needs to be restored in this solar system. I believe that a Solar System Exorcism and a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System would remedy most of the most pressing ills we face. But what the hell do I know. I don't go out of the body. I don't do regression hypnosis. I don't have spirit guides. I don't even pray anymore. I don't trust the gods and goddesses. They let me down. I'm currently reading through the Four Gospels in the New King James Version of the Holy Bible (I recommend doing this regularly) - but I do not consider this to be the Word of the Creator God of the Universe. Could this be some of Lucifer's best work? Don't laugh at me, or hate me. Jesus said that he had many things to tell us - but that we couldn't bear them. Paul tried to do good, but did evil instead - and considered himself to be a wretched man. Was Paul really Josephus? Were they all the same individual? Were they front-men (or creations) of Mary? Was the Historical Jesus created by the Woman in Scarlet to be a Red Herring? Are the Teachings of Jesus mostly true and beneficial? Was Mary a continuation of a Whore of Babylon Apostolic Succession? If we do not consider all of the possibilities - even the far-fetched and seemingly ridiculous ones - are we really doing our job? If you sing a song or throw a football - the crowds cheer, and you get paid tens of millions of dollars. If you search for truth, and try to save the world - you get nothing but a swift kick where it counts. What's wrong with this picture? Is this world really worth saving? Perhaps the Georgia Guidestones have a point. How many people will read this? Ten maybe? How many demonic entities have been assigned the task of spying on me and reigning me in? Ten maybe? I just swore at them, and flipped them off! These b@stards live with me without paying rent!! There's a shapeshifting Jesuit living in my attic! The heart of darkness could've at least sent a sexy cyborg from another dimension to keep track of me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-z54EP0EhM Hello Lucifer! Smile!


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:36 pm

    Lucifer is the afterthought of what springs from god. So in one sense the gospel itself could be taken to enslave man. This is why Jesus or god don't necessarily want to fix themselves and even if they did they get crucified for it. Lucifer captures the truth and twists it to serve him. The whore is a reference to using our gift of creation without knowing how to use it and abusing it. We are all born from a Whore. God let us find our own way, this is the essence of free will. He leaves signs or portends to show himself but not to the point where you must believe. This happens in various degrees. People see visions, power but im sure most of it could be explained away by a competent psychologist. I can assure you God is ever present and powerful. This is what jesus was saying with know what is in front of your face. This is the irony and the meaning of fallen or loss of memory. As Gods grace is all around you like the yolk in an egg...
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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:46 pm

    Born from a Whore?? Son of a Bitch!! No Wonder We Have Low Self-Esteem!! 'Free-Will' and 'Obedience to God' are 'Strange-Bedfellows'. I'm presently thinking of Gabriel as being Hard-Line Conservative -- Michael as being Hard-Line Progressive -- and Lucifer as being Hardline 'Whoever's Winning'. I might be completely wrong in my Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer speculation -- but I think that an Archangelicentric Approach to Life, the Universe, and Everything MIGHT be highly enlightening -- even if it turns out to be pure, unmitigated popycock. I'm truly sorry for pushing this thread as a study-guide -- but I truly think it might be more mind-expanding than we might think. I'm just so tired and exhausted -- that I can't seem to properly use my own study-guide -- and really, it probably will mostly benefit me -- because I have so much invested in it.


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:55 pm

    Man has low self esteem not god. Its in your position or transformation being born from a women and then not. You are born from god...
    A big point with mans low self esteem is the compensation to that, which is Eugenics. Again mans world.
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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:02 pm

    Is God humble or proud?? Should God be humble or proud?? Are Humans humble or proud?? Should Humans be humble or proud?? Perhaps BOTH God and Humans should be neither elated by applause -- nor dejected by censure. It seems as if BOTH self-exaltation and self-degradation are highly-problematic. Perhaps Dynamic-Equilibrium -- Dynamic-Neutrality -- and Humble-Homeostasis are ideals worth pursuing. Can Competition be BOTH constructive and destructive -- or is it always destructive?? Are Conquest and Self-Exaltation integral components of God-Ship?? Perhaps Comparative Models of God might be a productive topic for a doctoral disseration. Years ago, I suggested (somewhat provocatively) that the First-Commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'. I don't think I meant that there should not be someone in charge -- with ultimate responsibility -- but I think I was concerned with the possibility that many people's God is more like Satan than a Truly Good and Loving God. I continue to think that Humanity has possibly been serving False-Gods for Thousands of Years. Once again -- I am NOT opposed to a Proper Concept of God -- but I'm fearing the worst regarding the Theological Realities in This Solar System. I keep getting the impression that to properly understand theology -- one has to figuratively go to hell and deal with the devil -- and then ascend into the heavenlies. In other words -- one must consider ALL of the possibilities -- and be a conflicted mixture of faith and doubt -- who no one really likes or appreciates.


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:20 pm

    Humble and proud are the same thing. Two sides to the same coin. Those that are humble shall be exalted? This is the Janus to what I am speaking of. Its in the application, the timing, the note placement of finding the living word and living it. Should you be cold or hot? Are you neither? I have no doubt that our species can get it right using the basic tenets of Independence, and the Constitution and make it to Harvest time, fit focused and awaiting Gods Glory. I dont know why we are so dumbfounded here. Perhaps Lucifer has a grudge against this place. Jesus does say act like children when dealing with the Devil. Is this the irony the Devil will face at Judgement?

    Getting his ass kicked by a child? God exhibits his justice for the cosmos to see. I think so. It is in dealing with Man that maturity should reign...

    The one is the simplicity of the universe because you are one amongst the stars. And what should the One god say when man is sent to find his ways? There are many gods? That would be a lie.



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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:47 pm

    If Humility and Pride are defined as Self-Degradation and Self-Exaltation -- then BOTH are Self-Centered. Proper Self-Esteem arises from Responsibility and a Job Well Done -- with a Healthy Dose of Self-Forgetfulness -- and is NOT Pompous and Supercilious. Dr. Robert H. Schuller yelled at me in public when I pointed this out to him. That's when I quit attending the Crystal Cathedral. My exact words were "Self-Exaltation is Self-Centered. Self-Degradation is also Self-Centered. True Self-Esteem is Self-Forgetfulness (in this highest sense of the term) -- such as when an athelete is focused with total-concentration on the game -- and is NOT thinking about themselves." He didn't look at me while I spoke -- and went immediately to the next person in line -- so I walked away -- and when I was about 20 feet away -- Dr. Schuller almost yelled (in a high-pitched and mocking voice -- in front of at least 30 people) "That was Gooooooooood!!!" I responded calmly "I'll Keep Listening" -- and kept walking. At least he didn't hit me. Things might've turned out a lot different if that event hadn't occurred. I was a True-Believer up to that point (with some serious reservations). I still like the basic Robert H. Schuller and Crystal Cathedral Model -- but I would probably base a similar ministry on Positive Response Ability -- rather than Positive Thinking and Self Esteem. What Would Norman Vincent Peale Say??


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    Post  magamud on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:54 pm

    There is a balance to self and selfless. As there are limits to liberty. Your freedom ends at my nose sort of stuff. The dynamics of the Pharisees is plentiful. They do serve themselves the best seats in temple. Look at me. Look at me. And there time is so valuable...
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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:08 am

    The road is narrow -- and the ditches are deep. At this point, I fear that a political, philosophical, and theological meltdown is inevitable. I fear that the infowar is going to get really nasty. I fear that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better -- if they get better. I am trying to see things from God's point of view -- and Humanity's point of view -- but I frankly don't seem to identify with either. I wonder who I really am. I seem to be a misfit in this solar system -- sort of like I got dumped off here by those who were sick and tired of me in some other solar system. Now I need to sleep away my troubles. More fun tomorrow.


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    Re: Archangelic Queens of Heaven and the United States of the Solar System

    Post  magamud on Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:18 am

    God is coming in his glory and people are burning. But the time is shortened for our sake. He is coming quickly...
    One is taken and one is left...


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