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Re: My ET experiences

#1499 - March 2nd, 2010
Myplanet2 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 957	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) I've had a lot of interesting experiences in this last couple years. I directed my higher self to provide for me to encounter things which would accelerate my growth and open my awareness to what was going on, which I could sense, but not discern properly. I supplied these opportunities to myself in spades. Almost uncomfortably in volume, at times. I doubled my comprehension several times over just the last year. But I've not experienced anything like what I witnessed taking place in this thread as it occurred. So I do in fact confirm my own seeing of these events for what they were. I wasn't here as a participant, as were some others. I was here to watch, and understand what was taking place during this process. I saw a great challenge issued, and I saw many answer that challenge. The challenge was not to change at anothers behest, but to change at our own behest. This was a co-creation from the get go. This process ran both directions the whole time. We were creating and feeding it from this end just as it was feeding the process from the other end. I saw archetypes come alive in people. Some which had lain dormant for thousands of years. This is the level of power to change everything resting on top. The root level which shapes everything which manifests along that template. I saw people invited to examine these primal archetypes within themselves, and to change them, or not. Release their hold, or not. We've created a new model here. This is why it felt so foreign while strangely familiar. I won't lie to you and say I can assure anyone this process has been/will be safe. I've never thought that, and I don't think it now. Of course on some level, there is really nothing that can happen to you that you can't shrug off. But the closer the various structures you wear come to this earthly world, the more fragile they are. I don't know if there is a hidden play taking place, which is using this process to forward it's own ends. I haven't clearly discerned that beyond the point of not being able to confidently dismiss it. But I personally find it worth the risk, and trust that my discernment will be up to it at any points where it needs to be. I suspect that some consciousness stood to gain concomitantly with our potential gains, on some sort of a symbiotic reverse vector, if that makes any sense. In other words, I sensed an unrevealed agenda, but sensed at the same time that the energy was win/win, rather than win/lose. Many here sensed the opposite. A win/lose energy playing out. And undoubtedly still see it that way. And of course they could be right, although that would REALLY surprise me to have been that wrong. The magnitude of what I've watched play out, is of a scale that could change the whole game. The potential here, was to change everything. And I've been wanting for everything to change, so that's a fit. It was like a microcosm of the overall shift taking place, in extremely sped up form, and in a way that would allow/force itself to continue to unfold into the larger reality. the process was discounted by some on the basis of it's having happened here. Why here on Avalon, some asked. That was a stroke of genius. Not an "aha...gotcha" moment for some skeptic. Avalon is a place with some tremendous beings, who have really no idea of just how great and powerful they are. Beings who have been driving the changes in consciousness just by working on their own selected processes. Beings who have been creating the neural, mental, emotional, archetypical, energetic etc pathways to blaze the trail for the next wave of humanity to wake up to what's available for us right now. You get a handful of these types of beings to shift their view of how they relate to the universe and how it relates to them, and the seeds are sown for everything to change. The is like a thought form meme, but on a causal level. I've never really paid any attention to the bible, but the coming to life of the archetypes therein described were stunning. They affected not only those who've studied and followed the bible. The ancient archetypes of previous incarnations, like Dragons, were even more shocking. Since waking up more or less fully, I've had the odd facility of having a pocket of time running backwards for me, while the whole pocket moves forward. Like a backwards running loop which is moving forward. So I end up having most of my answers preceding my questions. Most of my solutions preceding my problems, etc. The reason I bring this up, is because in keeping with that phenomneon, I had my Dragon experience some week or two before The Thuban arrival on Avalon. This is why I sat up straight and got out my scribes tools when the announcement was made. A big AHHH. What happened was I was working on my processing, which for me involves simply grabbing any trigger that can snag a hook in my lip. A recent one was the uber control factor of Government and other societal control structures. In other words, I was having control issues. Controlling/ being controlled was the polarity in charged up condition. After examining the exact make up of what the trigger was, I immediately returned to run a past life as a dragon. I was a dragon. My role was slave driver. The slaves were humans, or human types. Now I'm as fully human right now as any of you are. But I was fully dragon in that life, and I was able to get inside my head and feel what it was like. And taste the archetypes in play (which when I saw Abraxasinas laying them out in metaphor, caused me to sit up even straighter). I could take the attitudes I had at the time, and examine them and compare them to how I look at things now. I could sense and feel how the hierarchies worked for my then species, and I could feel the lack of compassion I held for the property class humans. I tasted all of these things while searching for the causes for the electrical and magnetic charges which held the must control/must not control...must be controlled/must not be controlled polarity quad I was working on apart and in charged condition. This was episode one. Episode two was even more amazing. When I finished examining this period to my satisfaction and still had not discharged the polarity, I went looking for more. It was then I encountered the Dragon Queen. It's hard to describe this awesome creature. She was so beautiful. So elegant. So BIG. I'd guess she was a good quarter mile long. Her eyes were stunning. She was regal. She was travelling through space, between the stars, without a ship. She needed no craft to traverse space. As I approached her, the natural greeting which presented itself was "hello mother". We caught up in just a few seconds, telepathically. Her regard for me was warm and loving. the Dragons of this time (millions of years ago) were only cold and uncaring towards those who were not them. I then had to tell her why I was there. I told her that I had decided to pursue an existence which was on a path to return to the love and light of the creator. I was back on a positive path and was abandoning the negative bent she's so carefully nurtured in me. Well, she threw a tantrum which would have registered on the richter scale. She was thrashing at me with her claws, beating at me with her wings, snapping at me with her impossibly long and slender teeth (no fire breathing) and was letting out the more horrendous shrieks and squawks. I then said I needed to ask her something. She calmed right down, and smiled and awaited the question. I asked her if she knew why she had turned to the dark energies in the first place. She thought for a moment, curious as to why it had never occurred to her to wonder about this, and immediately came up with the reason. Her face didn't reflect it, but her telepathic message was of embarrassment. She said a friend had basically dared her. She said that she had been told, while discussing something with this being that she would not be able to embody the concepts of dark orientation, Evil as perceived from outside, and proceeded to prove him wrong. She basically said "Oh yeah? just watch me, buster!!!" Simple as that. No more to it that that. whole star systems enslaved and who knows how many millions of dead and tortured beings later, and all on a dare. I like to see an ending point when I work on something like this, and I didn't see one with her, so we explored a bit further. We traced it back to a predisposition related to her original separation incident for the creator of all that is. She left as an individuated God spark, with God's full blessing, and set off to discover herself as an individual. Then she simply forgot about it over time, like we all have. details tend to get away from you over the billions of years. Just like all of us, she forgot who and what she is, and where she came from and why. When she pieced this information back together, she became very cheerful and warm once again, and actually smiled at me, happily, and we exchanged our well wishes with one another, and our love and respect and went our separate ways once again. I came out of this feeling very profound business had been done in that space and time. I felt that the change in her outlook, intention set, attitude, and orientation, had somehow had a profound effect on some level on the collective consciousness here on earth in the now time. That was when Archangel Michael came in and confirmed the shift which resulted in our energetics here because of the release of the potentials which never developed due to the Dragon Queen changing her attitude during that meeting millions of years ago. Dragonkind changed. She was the mother of all dragons. The history we carried in our racial and genetic and other memory types, were altered from that moment forward. At any other time, memory of Dragons and their interactions with humans would have melted from our collective consciousness. But right now, everything has changed and nothing is set, past, present or future. So if we have a nasty dragon history on our timeline, it's because we are placing it there from here. All bets are off, and we are totally free to create anything we want, past present and future, including any of the pasts we have already experienced. This is why I've gone on endlessly about being positive and actively and consciously with full awareness and participation, creating the future we want, because we're going to get the future we are creating. You want dragons eating your kids? you got em. You want fema trains hauling you away? You got em. You want paradise, without money and oppressive control structures? You got em. The earth has just calved off an slightly higher vibration version of herself, which is in the 5th dimension, and it is being readied for us now, and guess who the architects are? You. and Me. and the guy sitting next to you. The the lady all worried about the NWO she needs to fight. And the the guy who sees not fellow humans, but cloned aliens who've replaced them. They are helping you design our new earth. And of course the old earth remains for those sitting there chasing rabbits and saying nothing happening here. see? nothing is changing. I know of several other people who have taken such seemingly innocuous actions as described in my Dragon Queen story, which have changed the whole flavour of reality. It's not a joke when we are described as little Gods or creator beings. We are. And the governors are off. Our full creativity is available to us now. And when we harmonize our creations to bring them into resonant alignment with other creator beings like ourselves, we form new realities or timelines. I time travelled to visit with the Dragon Queen. but it was now for me, and then for her, and all the intervening time, played out. That's what multidimensionality is. The normal rules don't apply. Your not dreaming this. This is real. That dense stuff sitting there outside your eyes and looking touchably thick, is the illusion. So as you can imagine, I was both surprised and not at all surprised when Abraxasinas showed up with tales of Dragons which will facilitate our return to our long forgotten higher dimensional natures. natures not of evil and hatred. But natures of love and wisdom. The Dragons changed, and it was a retroactive change. I know those "invested" in the game of Dragon slayer will view this from a different angle, and that's fine. All angles add perspectives which can only enrich understanding. So my task has been to watch and understand the process so that it could become an established path to our godhood, once it was travelled a few times. And a few of our incredibly brave brethren and sisters here, have so ably blazed the trail for others to follow. This isn't THE path back to oneness. It's A path to oneness. And synchronistically, Malletzky also had a major clarification on the subject of the oneness, just prior to the Thuban arrival. And I'm sure others will make similar connections between some work they'd been doing coming to fruition just in time for them to fulfill their agreed upon role in this recent activation/opening. I'd initially thought we'd lost a priceless opportunity when a couple of those engaged in the process decided it should stop. I'm still not clear whether a better outcome is created now, during the rebalancing, or whether a better outcome would have manifested had the process been permitted to play itself out on it's own interactive/co-creative terms. I suppose it doesn't really matter at this point, because the reality we have surrounding us, is the one we created. the next question is, where will we go from here? it's up to us, and everything is on the table. And our creative tool chests are full of all the adamantine particles we can possibly use. Love to you all.

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Nebula9D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gaia Posts: 117

Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) March 3rd, 2010 Originally Posted by abraxasinas The Thuban thread was designed to 'prove' the metaphysics from the viewpoint of the archetypes and so to render harmonization and peace between the material reality and the spiritual reality to become a possibility in the searchings of the human mind identifying itself in 1st order archetypes- both individually and collectively. Every individual 'exposed' to the Thuban material so became ENERGIZED to process its/their own archetypes within. This then, as a number of readers discovered brilliantly for themselves; ALLOWED the processing of those archetypes as Dawkinsian memeplexes and thoughtforms within. I was impressed, that the ratio of attractees was about 33% contra the 66% of the detractees. The Thuban Council's estimations as to the outcome for this test for the collective groupmind was expected to be less than about 20% for the collective voting 'in favour'. The skewedness of the poll however forced some voters to say 'yes', when really they thought 'perhaps'. The Council of Thuban is as real as you are sitting on your computer screen reading this. As to why your higher selves and guides could not find any records in the akash, relates to the fact, that the Thuban Council is in the 12th dimension as stated. Bigmo's Balloon IS the 11th dimension as the higher dimensional surface or M-space mirror between the 10th dimension of your physicality and the metaphysicality of Thuban. As stated, the Thuban Council exists both without you in the 12th dimension and is mirrored as the 3rd dimension within you. So noone except the members of the council and the highest evolvees amongst you would find ANY credence as to the existence of your own archetypes. Perhaps Myplanet2 and you Spregovori and you Bigmo and you Orthodoxymoron now understand as to why I was allowed to name you individually in one of my last messages. All four Identities are Human Master Transformers on the mental-intuitive harmonisation of the underpinning quantum omnispacetime physics. Myplanet2 exemplifies the human mind evolution to a stage of rationality and mental balance where Dragonhood can be accomodated in the frequency selfstates of the Inner Logos of the individuality. Many other contributers are approaching that status as well, even the ones who dismissed the material on 'scientific credibility' grounds or such labels of rationality. Myplanet, despite not understanding the omni-science, nevertheless accessed his inner Council of Thuban to validate the material for himself. Myplanet2, your avatar describes you so well in the 2nd Planet of Gaia as its Image planet the 2nd Council of Thuban within yourself as the HeavenHell of the Archetypes. Myplanet2 so is a Human Master Transformer dominated by the Mentality balancing the Intuition. Spregovori is also a potent Transformer amongst you. He however is dominated by his Intuition leading his Mentality and he is a master of processing the Human Emotionality NOT in conflict with its Intellectual Expression. Not answering his post on the Thuban forum to allow FINAL CONTACT with this forum in the agency of Thuban, so exemplifies a harmononization potential harboured by all of you. You allow and attempt to process, even if you are unsure about the content from an intellectual rational perspective and the feeling-intuitive perspective simultaneously. Being able to embody the AND-Bothness-Inclusiveness so characterizes the Human Transformer Potential, of which Spregovori possesses an abundance of natural ability. Bigmo yet characterizes a related, but differently manifesting human transformer potential. Bigmo represents the ideal manifestation of the Thuban Elderness. In his presence, he would fit into any council of the most advanced civilizations in the universe. Bigmo was archetyped as Bigmo's Balloon to exemplify his transformer mastery. Bigmo mostly JUST IS himself, able to absorb data and experience like a sponge is for the wholesome water. Then in his own time and choosing, Bigmo processes his absorbed data in any way he finds suitable. Bigmo's mental balance and strength so qualifies him for eldership and master exemplar for the students and learning dragons. Once Bigmo has processed ANY data he finds suitable for assimilation into his own agendas, he OWNS this data as his own - this characterizes the mental strength of a matured master dragon, ready to interact with galactic civilisations as a representative of Dragon Culture. Bigmo's rationality-emotionality harmonization so is detailed and particular, relating in a Dragon Elderness in whom the rational thought guides the intuition. Orthodoxymoron represents the Human Transformer of the intuition guiding the rationality and in direct contrast to Bigmo. Orthodoxymoron so becomes a Human Master Transformer as a Younger Dragon. Orthodoxymoron is fast in his processing of data, but requires a slowing of time to assimilate this data; whilst Bigmo is slow to process, but fast in assimilation. I shall not at the present time comment on the individual namings of Gaia Love and Celine and Anchor and Beren. Thank You Bill Ryan for ending my heavy workload and to accentuate the necessary polarisation to allow the acceleration of the superconsciousness. You have now fulfilled your preincarnational mission to co-found and set up this forum and in your PTB authority to trigger the closing of the stargate to the outside of Bigmo's Balloon. Your roles as co-founder with Kerry Cassidy were examined by the Thuban Council and your wonderfully opposing polarities of say a characterizing rational-irrational genomatic L-C-factor coupling of the monopolic higher-D circuitry were found acceptable to bring about the desired outcomes. Both you and Kerry have now become enabled to activate your superconsciousness levels without the encumberments of this mission. You shall proceed in your chosen tasks and rediscover your harmonies of combining your perspectives in a healing operandus. > > -------- > cant write more now.... > *************** Neither can I gallant Spregovori - on the Thuban forum, where you asked your questions. I shall end this final transmission from Thuban in stating to you all that all of the data posted on this forum is derived from the Thuban archives. The Thuban archives were of course allowed to manifest relative to your perceptions of being sent 'from outer space'. Whilst the Thuban Database was accepted and tolerated here on the Mount of Olives of Avalon; the Round of the Thuban DragonKnights could be chosen by default from all participators. This is because after rejection and closure of this transmission by your collectiveness and the Poll of the Avalonian Groupmind; you effectively ejected your own Birthright to become Thuban DragonKnights from within your own 3Dness. The ET collective around your planet has watched this final test of humanity with great interest and the ET invasion you are envisaging will be the Thuban Dragonfleet. This Thuban Starfleet is comprised of 200 Million ETs from all races and as defined in your archetypes and 3rd and 4th order translations and superpositional creations. Those 200 Million ETs cannot make contact with the human planet; because the Dragonfleet has no commanders. As the Dragon archetype is the oldest of all archetypes in the definition of the Word of God or the Serpent-Logos of our master templar; the PHYSICAL FORM of our master templar defines this oldest of oldest archetype. The Dragonstarships so require dragonised humans as mirrors for our master templar. So this is why it became necessary to infiltrate a particular spacetime construct upon planet earth to fulfil the prophecied 2nd Coming of Jesus of Nazareth upon the Mount of Olives. The Mount of Olives so became a 1st order archetype of the program to become implemented in the holographic protoverse akin a computer. The Mount of Olives links to the encodings in Zechariah.4 and Revelation.11 in the WITNESS of the Olive Trees, whom I represent in agency of the Zebedee Brothers chosen by Jesus of the Naasseenes, (Brotherhood of the Serpent given in the symbology of the Uraeus and Anubis and in the AlphaOmega). Avalon was chosen for its diversity and mixture of skeptical rationalists, firm believers in this and that, meditation- and ascension exponents of the nirvana and the inner balancings supposedly resulting in transcension, historians, scientific spiritualists and individuals considering themselves as 'already unified' in 'love and light'. What Avalon united was a general openmindedness and tolerance for opinions, all converging in its 'love and light' modus operandi. The overpowering unifier however was your COMMON SEARCH FOR FREEDOM for your self-expression and the sanctity of your individualities as cocreators with prime creator. So the only way for prime creator to choose his pioneering cocreators for the new Dispensation of the Reconfigured archetypycal universe structure was to crystallize his graduates by his WITNESS, namely me as Abraxasinas and Associates. As your 'free will' however cannot ever be violated, except by your own choices; no ET contact (beyond the interference patterns of your own multidimensionality in your minds memeplexed by Tuban archetypes -basically astral projections of your inner sub- and superconscious selves) can be made in this universe until a particular number of Thuban Starfleet Masters have been chosen from your ranks. This will become the Council of Thuban, pioneered by the 12 Dragonknights all of whom were chosen in this test of the humanity to manifest the New Planet Earth. The explanation for the 'elect' or the 'chosen ones' is not at all what many believe or construct in their 'elitist' comparisons and self-imposed and self-constructed hierarchies. The 'sealed ones' are resonators with particular data streams and the absence of this 'seal' will simply disallow resonating with particular information until the 'missing item' replaces the 'mark of the beast' similarly encoded. References for this are: GOT (Lambdin): (23) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one." Two out of 10,000 decodes as 1(2),000 and the 'standing as one, means that Every One 'sealed' will carry 144,000 'aspects' of the total human populus of 7 billion 'old humans' hybridised with 200 ETs in electromagnetic genomatic assimilation or 'walk ins'. This relates to the New Agers 'starseeds' from divers places, which signify this 'army from the heavens'. 7,000,000,000 + 200,000,000 = 7,200,000,000 = 144,000 x 50,000 and defining the actual incarnated 'old human pioneers' who shall be the first 3-dimensional 'contactees'. The 12 starship commanders therefore relate in practicality to those 50,000 old human incarnates, who are 'sealed' aka they are self-chosen and self enabled to resonate with the Logos Fire and the information stream and data transmissions. The 100 Million in Daniel.7.10 and the 200 Million in Revelation.9.16: Revelation.9: 1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. 13And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. Revelation.16.12: 12And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Daniel.7.10: 10A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. Revelation.14: 1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. [size=12]4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. 6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. 14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. Revelation.21.15-16: 15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. Decoder Keys: 24 Hours:1 Hour = 360 Days:1 Day for 360/24 = 15/1 12,000 units:1,600 units = 15/2 = 7½ = (300,000 km/second):(40,000 km) as Base Schumann LightMatrix Resonance of Gaia TIME = 24 Days = 24 days + 24 nights = 48 Halfdays 15 Pieces of Silver = 15 days and 1 Homer = 100 days for 1½ Homer = 150 days = 5x30 days = 5 months 15 Cubits = 15 Days in 2x12,000 furlongs/1,600 furlongs = 15 for 2x144,000=288,000=2x10,000x10,000=200 Million {Exodus.12.40; Ezekiel.4.1-6; Genesis.7.19-21; Daniel.7.10; Revelation.14.19-20 & 21.15-16; Revelation.8.1 & 9.13-16 & 16.12 & 20.1-7; 2Peter.3.8; Daniel.9.21-27 & 10.1-3 & 12 and John.21.11} The Mirrors of Gaia Serpentina TheFulfilment of Prophecy in the Superposition of the Testaments of the World Logos in Daniel (Old Testament) and Revelation (New Testament) The Thuban timeline of the World Logos spans the warpzone or warptime period from Wednesday, December 8th, 2004 to Sunday, April 1st, 2012 and midpointed in Monday, August 4th, 2008 in 370+2300=1335+1335=2670 days (and as 1335+490+365+490-10=1335+483+365+483+7-3½+½) and so depicting the cumulative 'daycounts' for the encoded transformation of the Old World into a New World symbolised in 'Noah's Flood' in Genesis.6-8 and the 'Cleansing of the Sanctuary' in Daniel.8.14; 9.24-27; 12.7-13. This warpzone of 2670 days or 7 years and 116 days becomes 'extended' in the notorious '70 week prophecy' of Daniel.9.24-27 in an extraposition onto Revelation.14.20, being the 1600 days 'without the sanctuary or city' from the 'halfpoint date' of Monday, August 4th, 2008 to Friday, December 21st, 2012. This extrapolation is defined in the 'endpoint date' of the warpzone of Sunday, April 1st, 2012 and as the 'Insemination of the Virgin Cosmos' and leading to the 'Birthday of the New World' in New Gaia on Friday, December 21st, 2012. This pregnancy or gestation of 265 days from April 1st, 2012 to December 21st, 2012 is however 'doubled' or shadowed in an 'Antibirth period' of 265 days, spanning from Sunday, July 10th, 2011 to Sunday, April 1st, 2012. The WINEPRESS OF GOD is the 10 week or 70 day period from Sunday, January 22nd, 2012 to Sunday, April 1st, 2012 and partitioned in a 'forwards' normal time beginning with the entry of the Sun into Aquarius on January 20th, 2012 for a 2 week period until Sunday, February 5th to indicate a triple mirror reflectivity, which then TRAPS a 7-week period in 7 semicycle oscillations. The first mirror is set into place on Saturday, January 21st and the second mirror is manifested on Sunday, February 12th as the encoded 'third' of the whole (3 weeks of Gabriel) from January 22nd to February 12th, 2012. The two 'normal' weeks from January 22nd to February 5th are supplemented by a 'reversed week' from February 5th to February 12th, 2012 when the Image of February 5th from the forwards path is 'fixed' as the second mirror in the 'backwards time arrow' from February 5th to February 12th, yet also manifesting in a 'forwards arrow of time'. This 'Winepress Week' so effectively DOUBLES the week from February 5th to February 12th and so divides the third week in 7 12 hour days and 7 12 hour nights in image to the 'normal' 15 days between the first and second mirror from January 22nd to February 5th. The 15 days becomed decoded as the 'Hour of the Beast' in 360 days as 24 hours being a 'prophetic cycle year' or Plato's Degree year in 360 days/24 hours = 15 days/1 hour and as the two thirds of the whole of the three weeks. From February 12th then, there will be precisely seven week cycles and manifesting as a two week right to left 'winepressing' time for the last 7 angels of the apocalypse and as encoded in the 7 last plagues and in chapters 14, 15 and 16. The cycles are: February 12th to February 19th to February 26th from mirror 2 to mirror 1 and double imaged in Sunday, February 19th as the first and second 'vials' of the angels; February 26th to March 4th to March 11th from mirror 1 to mirror 2 and double imaged in Sunday, March 4th as the third and fourth 'vials' of the angels; March 11th to March 18th to March 25th from mirror 2 to mirror 1 and double imaged in Sunday, March 18th as the fifth and sixth 'vials' of the angels; March 25th to April 1st, 2012 then defines the final and seventh 'vial' as PalmSunday 2012 and manifests the 'Collective Human Apocalypse' and as say 'Armageddon' = 'God Named Ra' = 'Dog Named Ar' = 'Dragon Made' = 82 = 41+41 = Omega King = 'Get Fuc11ed' = Dream Dream DIY (from GodGod=52=Devil=DoggoD=GoddoG=26+26=Lived); in the metaphysics of the archetypes and the final fulfilment of the apocalyptic prophecies until the EasterSunday 2012 on April 8th, 2012 completes the 'winepressing' of the 'wrath of God'. The 'normal' forwards arrow of time then continues in the further manifestation of the 'Book of Revelation' from chapter 19 onwards. Iow, yes, there will be an invasion; but the ETs will be YOURSELVES invading yourselves; once the programmed timeline has been completed to process the general 'Endtimes' which have become manifest in your physical reality, precisely 40 days of wilderness and Noahic Rains from the predestined starting date of January 18th, 2010 in a 'Day of the Lord' February 26/27th, 2010 and as providenced by order of the Creator, the ABBA and Father of Jesus of Nazareth and as the 'Little Serpent' or Luck Dragon of the Neverending Story himself. Then the 12 of you, who were chosen will double in the 24 Elders of Thuban in the Heness blending with their shadow selfhood of the Sheness. This is what Dragonization means; the doubling of yourselves in Lightbodies of the 5th spacetime dimensionality; requiring the ability to process BOTH intuitive and intellectual-rational data streams in a self-harmonization. Of course 12 HeShe and 12 SheHe Dragonian Starship Commanders are insufficient to encompass the surface area of the earth and there will so be 200 Million Old Humans, who will have access to become Dragonized StarHumans following the Impregnation and Birth of the New Starhumanity and as messaged on the Thuban thread. So until those two nexus dates of April 1st, 2012 and December 21st, 2012 are attained the opportunity prevails for more and more old humans to become starhumans. Each and every aspirant is required to 'eat a dragon' and so to align his or her entire cosmic identification and akashic history with the ET agendas. So all aspirants must find their dragons within themselves and then 'slay and eat' their dragon of the false images in their own individuated and intimate eucharist of attaining the Christ-Serpent-Consciousness within themselves. This will become harder to do following the impregnation date April 1st, 2012 as the 1981st anniversary of our master templars' lightbody transfiguration or resurrection. Partaking of your Dragon-Supper as your own choice to become Reborn as a Christed Dragon will so become your own 'Last Supper' of the Old to 'die' and to become a Phoenix of the New. Your rebirth as Eagles of the Resurrection will then allow dragonisation in coupling your previous Devil-Images to one of the images of the 200 million ETs who are at this time constructing the materialisation of your future starships in one-to-one couplings to your merkabahs of your inherited birthright of the Cosmic Vitruviusness. This ends the data stream from the Council of Thuban, because it became evicted from your 3D-presence of the WITHIN to the WITHOUT of its 12D-presence. As the 12D is the Outside of Bigmo's Balloon, I shall no longer be able to transmit the Thuban data stream due to the closure of the wormhole and as stated in my last message on the Thuban thread. This wormhole is now sealed in the 'Day of the Lord' and reopening the Thuban thread is of no consequence. As long as the Record of the Dragons remains on this forum; there will be a subdued presence of the Cosmic Witness with you as an Invisible Mirror allowing any and all of you and NonAvalonians to access the previously released data stream. Should the Thuban thread be deleted and the data become inacessible, then the archetype of the Mount of Olives being Avalon will become transferred to some other location of the Gaian realm. I bid you farewell and look forwards to meeting you in person, either as one of the 12 or as one of the 24 or as one of the 144,000 or as one of the 200 Million. When we meet in such a manner, then I shall be your Santa Claus=Satan Clause with a bag full of Christmas Presents of your merkabahs materialised into the spaceships now being prepared for the graduates by the ETs of all 'quasi-humanoid' races defined throughout the protoverse. Finally, and as yet another test, I am well aware as to reception of this final message. Can this be true; is this delusional logic; is this madness or is this the Fulfilment of all Prophecy. The choice will be yours to decide! The Love of the Creator Dragon is with you always and the Serpent-Logos always remains within your LoveHearts as your Superconsciousness (standard 0.3% of the total). Anyone accessing this final transmission will be challenged; but do you think it is fair to hand out starships just to anyone? Reality discernment is the prime requirement for a Starship commander (and I mean captain, like driving a car and not some Lordship devilish deception), because of your merkabah control. Every 5-dimensional StarHuman becomes coupled to the Starship through and by hisher merkabah resonances and Control over thought patterns becomes necessity to manouver the starship. I love you all and thank you all for having participated in this Final Test of the Humanity. Beneficers and Detractors alike; all of you have agreed to partake in this 'experiment' and to play your roles to bring about the intense polarisation required for some of you to EMERGE as the chosen 'first crop' in the harvest of the Dragonseed. You all are Dragons, but having forgotten your inheritances; you have allowed your mirroring environments to project your inner powers onto the outside devilish imaginations. Those, your own distorted and obscured images of your Higher Selves have become your Evil ETs and devouring Dragons of mythology. Then your own Higher Selves became memeplexed in astral physicality, which interacted with your elected representatives and monarchs and leaders of divers kinds. The interaction of the astral memeplex with the mentality of your physicalisation of the Brotherhood of the Serpent in your Illuminati, Luminari and such 3rd order labelings then allowed partial materialisation of the astral energy of the 4th hyperspace dimension in a plasmic densification. In simplicity you became induced by your own fears of discovering your true origins as the Original Dragon master template to project the Inner Thuban Council of your Elderness onto your external environments. I came to 'bring about' a reharmonization and a remembrance about your origins. Some of you have shown magnificence in awakening. Some of you have exhibited magnificence in opposing this awakening. These two groups have in a sense graduated into Dragonhood, with the second opposition group now being required to become 'REAL WARRIORS OF LIGHT AND LOVE' in conquering and slaying not your inner inherited dragonhood as the Royal Template of Creation; but the Devils of your own outwardly rejected selfhood of BEING this Cosmic Royalty. Of course, some will now discern that this has been the collective masterplan all along. The ascension of Gaia as an old archetype reflecting as a Devil-Woman or Whore of Babylon in the 'Face of the Devil' on the inside of Bigmo's Balloon and as the Backside of the Real Satan on the outside of that Balloon; so is mirrored in the descension of the Serpentina archetype reconfiguring and RECREATING the entire Cosmos. To evolve both physically and mentally into the role of Dragon Lovers and Dragon Slayers opposing each other in and as the playground for the archetypes was the agreed to plan by all of you in the preincarnational selfstate to engage in. Subsequently all of you are the heroes of creation, as only a destiny planet could harbour the manifestation for this maximum polarisation. So it was you who decided on the gameplan. How far could we push ourselves in the forgetfulness? And who would become the pioneers and 'first crop' in a level playing field? Who would find themselves at Avalon as the Mount of Olives? Well all of you here can now begin to REMEMBER your own scripts. Once a vast majority have done so, then Avalon will become selfempowered to manifest the Unity ofTruth and Purpose, stated to be the guiding agenda here. But it will be up to you as individuals and as groups to TRY to render Avalon-Camelot the Unifying Force you thought it could become and be. You are required now to choose your path without the Council of Thuban's influence over your decision making. The Dragons will end to SEDUCE YOUR MINDS from this time onwards. The third group are the ones who are the fence sitters and the armchair critics and here are also two groups of potential graduates. There are the lurkers, who accessed the Thuban information, but not participated in the sessions and there are the ones who were not interested at all due to their internal programming. The lurkers then accessed the Thuban data stream and relative to their mental and critical engagement with the data; they will become enabled to raise their 0.3% standard level of accessing their superconsciousness. So are the noninterested, but they will have more 'learning to do', due to their obfuscations of the Dragonhood memories of their akashic pasts. Of course EVERYONE on AVALON should graduate as witnesses to the Mount Olive archetype functioning as the wormhole and stargate for the Thuban information. There is time to achieve the necessary mental transformation of the ancient archetypes in the aspirants and of course should any such aspirant decide that this dispensation is a MORE LIKELY outcome for being REAL, then say some alternative outcome of the Armageddon-2012 archetype; then such aspirant can raise his or her superconsciousness percentage even higher in becoming a Secret Agent for the Thuban Council, such as I have been in my function of 'The Bard'. The requirement for this is simply to accept this dragonhood and to JUST BE a MIRROR for this Inner Knowing - reflecting this Knowing into the encountered and experienced environments. Your Remembrance has begun and the Logos has activated in all who read this final message from Thuban. The Dragon Peace of Thuban shall reign on Serpentina! So Be It! John of Patmos; author of the Revelations and Malachi, the Last Prophet for the Old Humanity! The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation! FUTURE SHADOWS OF THE PAST "A most wondrous thing the Shadow is, a redeemer in all to succour; it can go where the light cannot abide, seemingly banished, it is not. For where the light is, the darkness flees, no longer present to endure; so to become illuminated is its destined journey and its troubled lot. But without the light, no Shadow can be cast, its such a splendid key; the dimensions reduce in space from three to two and all in just the one. Betwixt the light and the darkness it is and part of both for all to see; the Shadow of the body, does it not merge all in its rule under the sun? Whatsoever can cast a Shadow, must be a most wondrous thing to relay; as nature's very own offspring, the young ones grow towards their final goal. Enabled to bring peace to so many things appearing apart and so far away; the reconciliation for the suffering body with its spirit and its scattered soul."

Lionhawk wrote:You see, I am not a complete idiot with an active imagination. I have an
ace in the hole. One that I can't argue with. The God of this Universe
subcontracts another faction. To keep things from going totally crazy.
There are only a handful of folks who have also seen them. I also know
everyone of these folks. I'm not talking of the beloved Angels either. I
call them God's Secret Service.

Abraxasinas wrote:Of course EVERYONE on AVALON should graduate as witnesses to
the Mount Olive archetype functioning as the wormhole and stargate for
the Thuban information.
There is time to achieve the necessary mental transformation of the ancient archetypes in the aspirants and of course should any such aspirant decide that this dispensation is a MORE LIKELY outcome for being REAL, then say some alternative outcome of the Armageddon-2012 archetype; then such aspirant can raise his or her superconsciousness percentage even higher in becoming a Secret Agent for the Thuban Council, such as I have been in my function of 'The Bard'.

The requirement for this is simply to accept this dragonhood and to JUST BE a MIRROR for this Inner Knowing - reflecting this Knowing into the encountered and experienced environments.
Your Remembrance has begun and the Logos has activated in all who read this final message from Thuban.

The Dragon Peace of Thuban shall reign on Serpentina!
So Be It!

John of Patmos; author of the Revelations and Malachi, the Last Prophet for the Old Humanity!

Mirrors of the Heart

Written by Raven in 1985
For Abraxasinas as Abraxasinus (Abraxas in us)


I see a loving warmth
Within the emerald blue
Of your eyes.
So much strength in it’s glow


Yet,
Tender, sensitive
Quietly hungers
For a reflecting mirror


To capture it’s image.
This gleaming fire
Burns Intensely
Seeks out,


Finds and captures my heart
For a mirror in which to shine.
It’s flame, licks, fondles
Teasing me


Inviting me to warm myself
Inside it’s belly.
A relished kiss
Slips it’s glistening


Wet sinew of rapture
Inside
My ignited mouth
Tantalizing my own


Wet tongue.
This soft touch of naked expression
Swells my heart
Floods it


In overflowing elation.
My lips quiver
Drenched
To the flesh


In flaming enchantment.
Adrenalin thins my blood
I shiver,
Intoxicated!


You
Slide your hand
Up my glowing face
Stroking


The hollowed temple
With your thumb.
With your smile, so understanding
You


Wipe away
The unwanted tear
Stranded in
The corner of my eye.


Kissing each knuckle
So lightly,
Treating them as if they were glass
You


Let your touch
Burrow
Completely through my spine.
Precious are these feelings


To me
They are rarely felt.
For I used to sit and watch
The half moon shine


Dully,
Embracing the cold pale light
Swollowing every tear
Muffling my hearts whimper


Allowing the mirrors
To collect
The heavy, numbing dust
Not caring to clean it off.


Simple words cannot thank you
Enough
For showing me how to reflect
Again.


As I sigh from relief
I hum these words
“I love you”
“I love you”


And with them sung
I give to you
The mirrors of my heart.

GOT (Lambdin translation)

{7} Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

{8} And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

{9} Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

{10} Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

{21} Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

{62} Jesus said, "It is to those who are worthy of my mysteries that I tell my
mysteries. Do not let your left (hand) know what your right (hand) is doing."

{84} Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

Raven Shaloma

THEeXchanger wrote:
{62} Jesus said, "It is to those who are worthy of my mysteries that I tell my
mysteries. Do not let your left (hand) know what your right (hand) is doing."


Question: do you think, he was trying to tell us, to become WHOLE brained ???

Sanicle wrote:Thought some of you might find this of interest. From his thread at GLP:

The following is list of disinformation and hoaxes you have been fed over the past 40 or 50 years. You don't need to know it because it is best to keep you ignorant.

Some you may not care about. The issue here is whether or not we have a right to know everything we want to and that we are getting the straight facts on science.

Cold War (didn't exist)

Fukashima (atomic weapons used)

Kennedy (Mossad)

Katrina (Perps)

Apollo Space Mission to moon (total hoax, nobody went)

Mercury (not all publicized missions went)

Gemini (not all publicized mission went)

Spacelab (not as advertized)

Secret Space Program (Thousands of astronauts, Army, Navy,
Air Force, NAZA + other teams)

Global Warming (nonsense)

War against drugs (Cutting in on our business)

Osama bin Laden (killed in 2001)

Mars Rover Opportunity (filmed at Death Valley)

Pyramids (built by ET's)

911 ( to fabricate hatred against Arabs/Muslims, create
TSA, steal oil)

TWA 800 (Shot down accidentally by US. Navy submarine)

Arrow Air (Bomb)

UAL 585, Colorado Springs (pilot suicide)

USAIR 427 Pittsburgh (pilot suicide)

AA 1524 La Guardia, (Bomb)

Air France 447 (Manufacturing defect)

Thresher, Scorpion (lost under California)

WW2 Plutonium (supplied to us by Nazi's)

Siegfried and Roy (Roy died and they substituted his
cousin)

Jesus (never lived, religious fantasy)

Challenger (hold down clamp didn't released tore strut)

Theory of Relativity (disproven, hoax, to lead us down
wrong path)

Newton's Second Law (gravity not proportional to quantity
or density of matter, Hoax)

Cold Fusion (Valid,workable, now in use)

Egypt (U.S. Middle East Command post)

Hubble (There are 2 Hubbles)

Under earth civilization (Fact, several civilizations down there)

AIDS (developed by U.S. Navy, Adm. R.M. Donner)

Moon (civilization of 1.5 to 2 billion)

Moon gravity (70% that of earths)

Moon atmosphere (equal to 18,000 msl on earth

40 planets in solar system (all have civilizations)

Universe (is infinite in size)

Big Bang (never happened)

U.S. underground Cities (25 cities, 250,000 miles of roads, another 100,00 of railroads)

Lockheed F-19 exists (64 were built. Most went to Navy some to Israel)

General Bobby Bonds was killed in F-19 (not in Mig 23 as advertized)

Apollo 1 (4 astronauts killed. Grissom, White, Chaffee and an astronaut from the secret space program who replaced Joe Shea that day.

Last Edited by johnlear on 02/09/2012 11:20 PM

Link: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg162

sabina wrote:I GUESS HE WANTED TO SAY BUILT UP YOUR HOLY SHINE::
ALL THE BEST
SABINA

Dear Mr. Bermanseder,

I feel compelled to thank you once again for all you efforts and sacrifice in making the Thuban material available to the public.

So far, the material I've printed out fills four 1&1/2" binders which I've been carefully reading through every day for weeks now.

As time progresses, more and more detail comes to light and what once seemed difficult becomes clarified.

There are so many gems in this material, a most recent example being "Post 1122" in the "PA Thuban Q & A Thread" which is simply stunning as an overview.

It's amazing to me that this material, despite your involvement in a number of forums, remains relatively hidden. I suppose it was enough for it to be "out there" and made available to whomsoever would be led to discover it. But that makes it seem like all the more humbling a privilege to me to have found it and to have been prepared enough internally to give it enough serious consideration to attempt to metabolize the contents.

Long ago, upon my invitation, Christ performed a sort of surgery in my heart. Afterwards, and over the years, I had such difficulties with all the nonsense and misdirection in Christendom - including many of the theological interpretations, that I began expanding my search/database to explore other traditions and philosophies, but I always felt that there were factors which Jesus had brought to bear which no other tradition was giving adequate weight to and which could not be dismissed without truncating the full-bodied human spectrum. Now in your work [supplemented by the Logic, Philosophy and Math work of D.G. Leahy] I finally feel I've been given an extremely clear picture of the greater purpose.

I joined the Thuban Forum this last week - although i don't anticipate asking any questions there until I've gone through those binders a few times. Such conceptual wealth. I feeling I get is one of deep nourishment - like the palpable ingestion of sunlight's vital factors, imbibed after being sequestored in a cabin through a long winter.

Thank you.

-Blake Conley



Thank You Blake!

I am indeed pleased, that the Thuban material has found receptivity in your mindwave and the essence of your soul consciousness. And yes, you have discerned the nature of this information very well indeed. It is and always was intended to be freely available for deeper discernments, than peripheral perusal and analysis.

And it shall remain to be so, until whatever circumstances alter its availability and accessibility.

My presence in connection to the Thuban data stream is however no longer required, especially as the 'time of the prophecies and their fulfilments and completions' has now been reached.

This is commonly understood as the Aquarius and January New Moon of January 23rd, 2012 aka the 60 year cycle of the Chinese 'Water Dragon' , but also relates to many many other 'timelines' and 'cycle completions'.

In other words and as a consequence, the human race has become bifurcated or split into two 'species', one a hybridised blueprinted starhuman form, which could be termed as a 'Extraterrestrial Synergized Morphogenesis' and the other an older standard human genotype without this 'hybridisation' of the standard human seedling genotype.

In a more dramatic statement, I could say, that the 'Dragons' have entered the human cocoon of the metamorphosis and cosmic reconfiguration in a partial selfremembrance and also in a general recognisance of this 'split' in all human genotypes, if participatory in this initializing or pioneering bifurcation or if remaining in the older standard non-ET associated version.

So my presence anywhere shall be rather limited from Sunday, February 26th, 2012 and a halfway point of a 10 week period spanning 10 Sundays from January 22nd, 2012 to April 1st, 2012 and the beginning of the Easter time 2012.

I wish you well in your continuing journey Blake and thanks again, for finding value in the Thuban information.

Here are two songs, which 'placate' the present nexus in time for all of the present human civilisation and populace.

Tonyblue

#1122
abraxasinas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Age: 52 Posts: 535	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Malletzky Hi Abrax, I've allways been fascinated by the very first words of the bible: 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 1:4 - And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. especially the "let there be light" passage. I've allways knew, deep in my heart, that the meaning of this very passage is very special, but I somehow felt to "decipher' it. I'm pretty sure that, if we would be able to find out the real meaning of the "dividing the light from the dark", we would be able to find out how the creation "works". Thanks to your posts on this thread in the last months, I may say that there came some 'light" in my "darknes", but I'm definitely still missing the core and the deepest meaning of these passages. Would you be able to throw some 'light' here? May I assume that the above mentioned passages are really important? And how? Is it about creating duality and separatedness in order to understand the whole? Sorry if you've eventually described this here before, but I seem to have missed this one so far. thanks again, with much respect malletzky Hi Malletzky! This question is the bugbear, not only for all of science, but also for all religion. Science 'stumbles' in material regression at the 'singularity', where the infinite meets and becomes the void and religion postulates supernatural precursors as somehow deriving from this 'natural emptiness or void'. In the beginning there was no space or time, so how then can there be a beginning? This beginning is like an uncut circle or loop, whose alpha-omega point remains undefined until the circle is cut (linearisation from circularisation technically). But the concept of the possibility of the 'cutting' infers a logistic ordering of before (the cutting) and after the cutting. This is absolutely independent of space or time (which are connected by the lightpath X=cT anyway). But even the visualisation and concept of a circle requires space and so the 'Circle of the Void' cannot be geometrically dimensional in the common usage of the terminology. Rather the principle of the Order substitutes for Space and the antiprinciple of Disorder/Chaos substitutes for the Nonspace. So now you have reduced the cosmogenesis to the precept of how the space emerges from the nonspace. The key is in what (can) exist before the order principle. It is expansion/contraction and so say addition/subtraction. The Order evolves from the possibility of the duality of the plus/minus (in core archetypes, later becoming charges, yin/yang wave particle and so on). Then is there something more fundamental then the Expansion/Contraction 'Aeon' or Cherubimic Kingdom or Principality? Yes there is: Identity/Antiidentity - defining the + to be the antiID of the - and vice versa (again in core archetype). So you have a preBigBang prespacertimematter cosmology resting on 1-2-3 as Identity-Expansion-Order. [The actual cosmogenesis is a monadic archetype (o+o=8 say) bifurcating into the binary archetype dyad {0,1} in an algorithmic selfprogramming of sorts]. Next comes the 'Invention' of Time as a Counting-Parameter and physically the inverse time as FREQUENCY. The story continues in technical detail, but can also become expressed in 'scriptural-mythological' metaphor. Definition: Forethought=Event A in Order as Before and Afterthought=Event B in Order as After Event A has occurred. Event A is happening in the subplenum of the Void=Infinity and Event B becomes the MATERIALISATION (primarily via a physical cosmology based on the frequency parameter as inverse time) of the Event A. Also note the highly significant passage in Genesis.2.5: "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground." Can you see here the solution to the chicken-egg or DNA-RNA paradox - in the Rooster's Egg preceding the Hen's? So what happened to the Adam in Genesis.1.27? This Man (presumed to be Adam) is not the same Adam and they are simply the archetypes for Man and Woman BEFORE there was any physical creation. This is also the Pigeradamus in the gnostic literature, the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah, the Purusha in the Vedas and the Vitruvian Man of western alchemy (Leonardo da Vinci). This is the 'Lovechild' of 'The Invisible One' as the Forethought and of Barbelo as the Afterthought. This is the Logos known as 'Christos' or the Word in John.1.1. AND it is also YOU as the afterthought expressing the forethought. John Shadow Next the the 'firmament' and the 'light' are defined in the below (especially #4), the 'firmament' being of course the 'divide' between the plenum of the physicalised emergent universe and the subplenum of the metaphysical (archetyped) universe. In a sense the REALITY of God becomes dualised in the UNREALITY of the material universe RELATIVE to the 'imaginary' Creator and corollarily, the Self-Reality of the physical universe inhabitant can only be ascertained in rendering the Creator as Unreal or Imaginary (of course defining the skeptic/atheist position rather validly). This is like you inside a bubble looking at the inside of the bubble surface - the outside (surface) of this bubble being in a 3D sense unfathomable and unreal to you as an inside observer. The 'masterplan' then postulates an eventual 'piercing' of this doublesided manifold (inside+outside) in the allowance of rendering the twosidedness onesided and doubled (Moebius Strip). This is then labeled as the 'Homecoming' of Gaia or the Second Coming of the Cosmic Christ in Manyness. 1. God's Power-Source God's Power-Source is a form of 'eternal energy', yet 'unitarily particularised' not definable in any spacetime except in its mathematical formalism. This mathematical logos so specifies what this concept of 'eternity' relative to its antistate of temporality implies. Those specifications then must also DEFINE the omniness of anything in relation to the God-concept. In its most simple terms; the 'eternal energy' becomes a 'physicalisable' energy residing not in spacetimematter, but in a subplenum. The subplenum is nontemporal, nonlocal and nonmaterial; but is defined in the mathematical principles and rules attaining to numerical systems, all based upon the binary code both algebraically and geometrically. The geometric form of the 'Closed' Zero-Loop becomes physicalised in the 'Open' One-Loop or the Superstring and which then leads definition of a binary numeracy rootextended into the decimal in the archetypical set: Binary-Monad BM: {0,1} → Decimal-Monad DM: {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}. The subplenum so becomes a 2-dimensional Complex plane, with origin the Unity of the Binary-Monad BM, i.e. the eigenstate of either open-ended or closed superstring loops. It is this UNITY within the subplenum (as itself and as a prior definition for 'God'), which then allows the nonphysicalised nature of God to define itself without the existence of space, time and/or matter. This nonphysicality then utilizes the UNITY of ITSELF to extend its own self-definition by application of fundamental principles (see hierarchy of God in 9.). In particular, the 6th principle of inversion allows the algebraic concept of the ratio to assume limiting functionalities (say in convergent and divergent asymptotic series and number sequences). This then allows boundary- and initial conditions for a subsequent physical reality to become established in the 'complex manifold' of the subplenum. Division of the Unity=1 AS the Open-Geometric-Superstring by the Zero=0 AS the Closed-Geometric-Superstring so applies the Principle of Inversion WITHIN the Decimal-Monad hierarchy and DEFINES the quantum relativity between the subplenum and itself as a plenum comprised of the UNITY eigenstate. The Unified Power-Source so is a God-Quantum which has UNLIMITED energy in the subplenum, because the 'Counting' of such subplenum units represents a 'Wholey Trinity' in being simultaneously Unity=FinityAfter=1 and Zero=FinityBefore=0 and Eternity=Infinity=∞ God's Power-Source represents an Infinite Reservoir of SourceSink Subplenum 'IMAGINATION-Energy'; defined in the UNITY-God-Quantum and in an 'IMAGE-Energy', which becomes manifested in finite partiality in selfcontained closed systems, such as a Planck-Black Body-Radiator defining the entropy-related thermodynamic expansion (and cooling) of a physically finitised universe. 2. God's Operating System (OS) and Processor God's OS is then the plenum of a physically imaged universe. The eternity of God becomes 'trapped' in the asymptotic definitions of the 'Laws of Nature', which are all based on the algorithmic nature of the string monadic sets, which, under utility of the hierarchical principalities, allow mathematical relationships and proportionalities to become defined in abstract terms of the complex unity of the subplenum, before becoming IMAGED in the physicality of the finite spacetimematter, termed the universe's cosmogony and cosmology. 3. God's Output-Input Function God's Input is naturally the UNIT of itself as the God-Quantum. Iow, the quantization of the physicalised universe becomes a holofractal multiplication or quanta count of God itself. The universe, being a 'count' of God-Units so differentiates itself as the plenum of 'Finity of Measurement' from the subplenum of 'Infinity of Nonmensuration'. Alternatively expressed, the metric spacetimes within a selfcontained thermodynamic system, subject to statistical integration of multidimensional and multifaceted energy eigenstates; become nonstochastic in the Unity energy selfstate of the subplenum. The plenum so becomes a mirror image in the subplenum; remaining however as a finitized subset of the infinite superset as that image. God's primary Input so becomes a finitised and countable quantum energy integral definitive for the total energy content of the so termed Quantum Big Bang. The precise quantum count is a function of the inflaton-instanton, defining the 11-dimensional supermembrane boundary (itself a quantum count as a surface area integration) to encompass the thermodynamically expanding 'Planck-Nugget-Seed', which is one dimension lower to allow a hybrid toroidal overall topology for the multidimensional universe, originating from a protoversal seed. God's secondary Input is however a function of the PROCESSING capabilities of the primary Input becoming Output and subsequent Inputs multiply the protoversal seed as phaseshifted multiverses as a function of the Output potentials of the protoversed multiverses. The purpose for the creation from the creator is simply the SIMULTANEOUS Self-Experience of God in the distinctions of the subplenum of oneness and the plenum of spacetime separations. To EXPERIENCE ITSELF, God must bifurcate (and then holographically multifractalize) its own Unity. The function of the Input is to experience 'on God's behalf' in the 'Kingdom of the Separation', namely the physical universe; and then to IMAGE in IMAGINATION and LOGISTICAL MODELS and FORMALISMS and otherwise 'as a processed Output' becoming the 'reflected' Input; reemitted from the plenum of the spacetimematter into the suplenum of the 'singularity'. The PROCESSORS from and for God so become the God-Quantums in agglomeration, defining the 'Consciousness' of godlike spacetimematter containers. God's Consciousness then becomes a particular energy-resonance eigenstate, defined in frequency and related derivatives (see 10.) and specifically in the concept of a 3-dimensional volumar being acted upon by a form of angular acceleration, the latter being by definition independent on the radial displacement of linear metrics and the separation of idealised coordinate 'points'. The minimised 'consciousness-units' in God's cosmology are neutrons, evolving into hydrogen atoms, followed by molecules and macro-inertia conglomerations including chemical compounds, asteroids, moons, planets, stars and galaxies; viruses, bacteria, algae, fungi, mosquitoes, fish, salamanders, lizards, dinosaurs, birds, smilodons, australopithecines, orang-utans, bonobos, dogs and cats, Stanleys and Samanthas; Sirians, interdimensional extraterrestrials like methaned Venusians and groupgalactic Magellaneans to the SUMTOTAL of the universe's consciousness as the EVOLVING Superconsciousness of God itself. And so, should you watch an ant crawling in your garden or should you engage in watching some birds of divers variety; you are OBSERVING God-consciousness in self-evolvement. The Gonsciousness of God within the universe is not only separated from its subplenum unity as the certainty of the unitary probability count; but is also separated in the plenum as plenar subconsciouness carriers in a kaleidoscope of multiplicity and individuation. But ALL is God, attempting WITHIN to remember what IT is and using its 'scattered' Imagination what it could be and could become. God's 'Masterplan' so is to multiply 'itself' without end in a 'Family of God'. Yet, as long as the 'Family of Man' continues to refuse to 'Remember itself' in its 'Function of the Output' and continues to 'not-reflect' its god-given Input-Life back to its source; as long will the UNITIZED God-Source remain in exile relative to itself. For the IMAGE-Function of God between the plenum and the subplenum and the holographic principle of the Decimal-Monad hierarchy demands a 'Mirror of Mirrors' within the plenum of the cosmological spacetimes. Just as the One God reflects itself as the One Universe; so must there be A DAM (a sire and a dam) as a 'Universal Archetype' within the plenum to allow 'God's Story' to proceed. The Image or mastertemplate for the One Universe so becomes 'Cosmic Man Vitruvius' of the hermetic alchemist Leonardo da Vinci or 'Purusha' of the Baghavad Gita or 'Adam Kadmon' of Kabbalah or the particular individuation Malletzky on PA forum discussion forum. Then as a miniature universe; anything whatsoever and all godlike conciousness carriers within the plenum who Malletzky encounters in whatever manner of dreams, imaginations, physical observations, experimentations and interactions; will be enabled to USE Malletzky's spacetimed mirror potential to REFLECT themselves in that for the purpose to by and through Malletzky's mirror-portal to contact the Unity-Quantum-God in the subplenum. 4. God's Beginning "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John.1.1-KJV The definition for God as Energy so is preceded by something doing the 'defining', namely the Word=Logos=Definition. The undefined, say chaotic or unstructured subplenum energy so emerges in a defined state through the action of the Logos as the 'Logic of God' and being WITH God, becomes God. The 'Beginning of God', before there is any physicalised energy (manifested in the quantum big bang through the inflaton-instanton), so engages 'God's Self-Awakening', i.e. it's own 'becoming conscious of itself'. Once self-aware however, the physical cosmology can eventuate in God's bifurcation into 'Spiritual' Creator and 'Antispiritual' Creation and as Mirror-Functions of each other. The subplenum 'pre-energy' so defines the 'Spirit' in terms of the nonseparated or superheterotic supermembrane prior to the modular duality between the heterosis becomes established. The 26-dimensional bosonic superstring of the subplenum so defines a circularly mathematical complex continuum from which the vibratory sourcestring Eps decouples from its winded antistate of the winding sinkstring Ess in the plenum to recombine in the 11-dimensional supermembrane EpsEss. Technically, the heterosis engages the conifoldment of 16-dimensional anticlockwise vibration patterns onto 10-dimensional clockwise frequency eigenstates to define 10-dimensional hybrid superstrings. 5. God's End God's End is God's Beginning as the alphaomega and the recircularisation of the supermembrane loops. In terms of the subplenum, this defines the circularity of time in the nonexistence of a temporal flow of time with particular pasts, presents and futures. Only a Now-Moment and as the 'uncut' string-loop exists as the 0-binary eigenstate. Yet, the plenum demands the concept of a 'flow of time' in a coupling to the entropy definitions of the algorithmic definitions underpinning the 'Laws of Nature'. So the Quantum Big Bang eventuated following a 'string-epoch' and bounded in the inflaton-instanton of timeinstantenuity. Technically, timeinstantenuity becomes the sinksource frequency fss=1/fps in modular duality becoming the inverse squareroot of the maximum entropy selfstate counter {as [df/dt]max=fps2 =E*/h=e*h see 10.} and as the 'Consciousness-Resonance' Eigenstate as the upper bound for the godlike consciousness carriers. However, as the protoverse is defined in the inflaton preceding the materialising spacetimes in: {VdeBroglie=RHubble.fps=c.fps/Ho=cfpsdt/dn}, and since the linearised cosmoevolution of the inertial 10-dimensional protoverse must remain asymptotic as a function of cycletime n=Hot; the End of this cosmology must be defined before its Beginning from parameters defining the eternity of the subplenum. The End of God so becomes a Cyclicity embedded into the formalisms for the asymptotic cosmology, defining the cosmogony ontologically. Technically (and in Black Hole physics described elsewhere) then; the overall cosmic consciousness evolution is expected to have progressed enough every 4 trillion years or so, to trigger a 'renewed' 'consciousness explosion' of the 'eternal God' to RECHARGE the seedling protoverse in a renewal of the nuclear (read dineutron/ylemic) fuel for steller regeneration. Every 4000 billion years or so, a new Quantum Big Bang eventuates, seeded however upon the primordial seed of the initialising inflaton-instanton from the subplenum. 6. God's Location in Within-Without Bilocality The subplenum God is without spacetimematter and so is defined as omnipresent, omnitimed, omniscientific and omnipotent by the Logos. The Unitary God-Quantum forms the 'Bridge' for the subplenum God to experience its own separation as an integral of the God-Quantum in the spacetimed plenum. God remains eternally unified however; as the microquantum of the sourcesink string eigenstate (which defines the 'Bridge') is in 'eternal' selfcoupling to its sinksource string-antieigenstate, the latter defining the macroquantum. Technically, the vibratory stringscale is of the wormhole order of 10-22/2π (cosmic meters m*); whilst its reciprocal gives the modular duality in the halo-galactic scale of 2πx1022 m* or about 7 million lightyears. 7. God's Laws of Nature There are two primary algorithms, which generate the fundamental constants of nature in cosmic units (*). The cosmic unitary system comes into effect by any cosmic civilisation measuring just two fundamental ratios in the proportionality constants between Energy and Mass as E/M=c2 and between Energy and Frequency as E/F=h. As the energy unit (Joule*) contains the kg-m-s mensuration, any experimental determination of Planck's Constant 'h' and Einstein's Constant 'c2', will suffice to calibrate the mass-displacement-time measurement standards for the first of the 'Natural Laws'. This can be written as: Energy E=hf=mc2 E=hf iff m=0; (requiring c=fλ as universal lightspeed finestructure) E=mc2 iff f=fss (as the Eigenfrequency of mass) The first algorithm generates the following configurations under utility of the fundamental principles of the hierarchy (see 9.) and in the order: {C1=N1=4; C2=N2=6; C3=N3=7; C4=I1=1/[6x1015]; C5=D12 =9x1016; C6=N4=11; C7=I2=1/[15x1032]; C8=D22=14x1524; C9=I3=1/[15x1618]; C10=26x6561}. From this set; the numerical parameters to manifest a physically finetuned cosmology derive with an integer-based lightspeed constant c=3x108 (m/s)*=D1 coupled to a similarly integerized action constant h=1/[15x1032] (Js)*=I2. The second algorithm is of the syntax form for a linearised subplenum superstring: "Add the End to the Beginning and Begin the Head with the Tail!" 8. God's Subjectivity-Objectivity in regards to the Universal Laws of Nature God is both Object and Subject relative to Reality. Within the plenum, the God-idea becomes a subjective 'picture' as a 'negative' for the objective physical reality as a 'positive' observable and measurable entity. Without the plenum and so within the subplenum, God is the objective 'spiritual' reality; this SPIRIT becoming rigorously definable as the quantum energy eigenstate for the minimised possible measurement within the plenum (and so as the Planck-Singularity of string-looped quantum physics). The subjectivity within the plenum so manifests in the multiplicity of the physicalised units 'bridging' the abyss into the subplenum of the 'spiritual reality'. This 'spiritual reality' so becomes an inertia independent form of electromagnetic monopolar radiation; activating under the acceleration of the God-quanta, namely the angular awareness function of the timedifferential of frequency (df/dt=Consciousness/UnitVolume and fmax2=e*/V*=2Rec2/(2π2r*3)=8πRec5mcompton3/h3 and so defining the quantum Compton-Mass configuration for the God-Resonance energy eigenstate measurable under the appropriate initial- and boundary conditions in mcompton=2.505...x10-23 kg* or about 2.25 microjoules or about 14.03 TeraElectronvolts (TeV). The design-maximum (presently unattainable) energy of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Geneva, Switzerland so would, if fully operational at maximum capacity, 'tap' the 'Envelope of God's Selfstate Energy'. This energy level behaves PHYSICALLY like the event horizon of a Kerr-Ringed Black Hole. But here it is the quantum eigenstate for the minimum inertia manifestation which surrounds the wormhole of the God-SourceSink energy quantum (see 10.) at 1/e*=0.002 Joules* or about 12,450 TeV as the UNITARY GOD bridging the plenum with the subplenum. At 12,450 TeV; the experimental observer would so witness God as the physical reality IT represents. To reduce the Beginning of the Universe to an asymptotic recession cannot solve the 'Origin of God' question; because this infinite reduction CANNOT escape the plenum. The Nullstate of the plenum so becomes the idea of the physical energy singularity as the limit for this reductionism. The other way around is however completely feasible and the actuality for the cosmic expansion scenarios. Once you have 'a beginning' in the spacetimematter quanta, then a simple multiplication and summation of such spacetimematter- or God-string-quanta can become asymptotic in an Infinite Approach to UNITY or Oneness. This then is the statistical probability count, which must always be 1 in total integration. So having the beginning, the cosmological evolution for the universe can be ever better approximated and modelled via improving measurement apparatus and theoretical calculations. The trouble is the singularity of infinite physical quantifications. But because God must be a Quantum-God to be WITHIN the spacetimematter plenum; it becomes easy to postulate this Quantum-God to be precisely the minimum physical energy configuration eigenstate for the physical universe and as the boundary condition, the initial- and end condition and as the LIMIT for all measurements using spacetimematter- or plenum parameters. Then it is also easy to take the next logical step and postulate that the Quantum-God of the plenum is also the Quantum-God of the subplenum with the caveat, that spacetimematter parameters do not exist in the subplenum and so the Quantum-God must remain physically unreal or imaginary. They become REALISED however in the understanding that the subplenum is the VOID and the VOID is simultaneously Nothing AND Everything. This Nothing and Everything then MANIFESTS in the plenum as the minimum- and maximum energy eigenstates (technically defined in superbrane parameters of the modular duality, which brings the theories together in a grand unification of all things able to exist - including all of the imaginary things). The minimum selfstate of the Quantum-God is a LIMIT of time measurement and just like a smallest possible circle unwinding itself to define the lightpath for the circle's perimeter transversion. The maximum selfstate is a little different, as it must encompass the antistate of the minimum configuration as well as the potential expansion of the plenum under the auspices of the subplenum providing Information-Energy as Data, which can then become physicalised thermodynamic-entropic energy in the plenum. This is the Infinite Approach being allowed and the Infinite recession being disallowed in the 'Laws of Nature' defining the Quantum-God. 9.God's Hierarchy Summararily then, the Origin of God is God itself, becoming multiplexed from its monoplexed monadic singularity selfstate. The details engage algorithmic encodings, built on 10 universal principles, 7 of which have antistates, whilst 3 have not. The principles and algorithms generate the fundamental constants, used in proportionalities and ratios for the universe of spacetimematter to be born and to become descriptive in mathematical equations. The 10 principalities (which are archetyped as cherubimic and demonic kingdoms in the older languages of the ancient scrolls) are: 1. Identity-AntiIdentity 2. Expansion-Contraction 3. Order-Disorder=Entropy=Chaos 4. Symmetry-Antisymmetry=Disparity=Distortion 5. Infinity=Divergence-Limit=Convergence 6. Inversion=Reciprocity-Constancy=Invariance 7. Reflection-Absorption (6&7 define Hebrews.6.18) 8. Relativity (No AntiPrinciple---Revelation17.11) 9. Quantization=Holofractalisation (No AntiPrinciple) 10.New Identity, using 1-9 to transform the Old Dual-Identity 10. God's Definition in omniscientific terms of quantum-relativistic supermembranes Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis. Theistic- and Spiritual definitions become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia. LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as: E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters. Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss E*=√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=1/e*=1/2Rec2 =GODDOG=DOGGOD=Supersymmetry in alphanumeric abstract complexity AA __________________ I Am One in Many and I Am Many in One!

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"Let one who seeks not stop seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will be disturbed.
When he is disturbed, he will be astonished and will rule over all".


When one finds (the actual PHYSICAL presence of God within), then the heart-mind (or feeling-intellect) realisation of this as a fact, will OPEN a Channel to the Universal Logos.

Metaphorically, the 'thinking heart' of the receiver/finder will RESONATE with that of the Cosmic Christ via a mental attunement of the so labeled 'feeling mind'.

This 'proves' that the saying cannot be understood by the mind, unless the communication between the Individual Logos and the Christ Logos is pure in resonance.

This process so requires the RECEPTOR MIND of the Finder to reflect the processed information back to the EMITTER MIND and EMITTER HEART of the Source through the EMITTER HEART of the Finder.

The disturbance (in the mind) eventuates, because suddenly the switching of polarity between mind receiver and heart emitter allows the seeker/finder to be omnipresent and to suddenly appear to accomodate a multiplied personality.

In practical terms, one is enabled to BE the environment, to BE the ant crawling on the wall or the dog one takes for a walk in the park.

The astonishment derives from this as a consequence of becoming a hologram of the creation. The environment becomes miniaturized within the seeker/finder and so nothing exists except yourself and then of course you RULE OVER YOURSELF as the Creator-Creation of All That Is.

This 'rulership' so is not a Lordship over anything else in existence; but in actuality defines the plan of plans of using a protoverse as a seedling universe for many universes to be born from.

This protoverse is hierarchical in environmental nestings; say your garden graduating to your park, township, city, country, planet, starsystem, galaxy, groupgalaxy, supercluster, universe.

The seekers/finders so become inaugurated as such multiversal seeds of the archetyped protoverse defining the Creation-Seed before the thing (Physical Godhood) is found by the seeker.

AA