The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

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    The Knights of the Extreme Right

    Post  Floyd on Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:03 am

    Templar Nazi occult groups infiltrated.

    Interesting piece. This snippet about Luc Jouret's, (student of nazi and Disciple of St Germain and other Masters of Agartha,Julien Origas) Solar Temple



    The Knights of the Extreme Right
    Many secret societies, including those aimed at nurturing the spiritual enlightenment of their members, have been infiltrated by intelligence agencies for the purposes of grooming terrorists and fulfilling nefarious political agendas.

    ....subject, Secret d’Etat? (“State Secret?”), he explains where his lines of enquiry have taken him. For example, it has become clear that police and investigators purposefully neglected clues that showed that unknown persons aided if not executed the “collective suicides” (which, in France, took place in 1995). Trails suggesting that several hundreds of millions of dollars were moved from OTS bank accounts into what appears to have been Australia were intentionally not followed up during the investigation. Specifically, Fusier has identified that key figures within the OTS had direct links and access to the then French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua. Indeed, in the final weeks of the OTS’s existence, members claimed and complained that they had been “infiltrated”, and just before their deaths they sent their passports to Pasqua, apparently claiming that they felt he was responsible for what was about to happen. But how could a cult hold the Minister of the Interior responsible for deaths that were officially of their own doing?
    The theory of collective suicides has also been heavily contested by Alain Vuarnet, René and Muguette Rostan, Willy and Giséla Schleimer, who are relatives of the victims, and Dr Alain Leclerc, their lawyer. Their investigation has uncovered one document, a copy of a letter of 21 April 1997, addressed by a lawyer’s office to a bank, concerning the distribution of 17 million French francs (about 2.5 millions euros) between various personalities and political parties, the OTS and the Rosicrucian Order AMORC (Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis). In his demand for a further investigation, Dr Leclerc (quoted by Fusier) wrote: “If the document is true, it shows that the Order of the Solar Temple was in activity after the last March 22, 1997 massacre [in Quebec, Canada] and that the leaders of this organisation are still alive.” The court refused to investigate the letter.
    If the OTS’s demise was a “state secret”, what was going on? Author François-Xavier Verschave has argued that the “collective suicides” were connected to Gladio, the secret NATO stay-behind network in Italy. Verschave may be echoing the opinions of Dr Jean-Marie Abgrall, an expert who was used during the investigations into the OTS and who was accused of violating these secret investigations as he spoke out of turn. He was not the only expert who was frustrated with the level of secrecy and the desire to bring some of this information into the media spotlight: another was French esoteric journalist Jean-Luc Chaumeil.
    Abgrall repeatedly stated, in declarations to Le Point and Nice-Matin in February 2003, that the Renewed Order of the Temple (Ordre Rénové du Temple, or ORT) cult, the ancestor of the OTS and created in 1968, had relations with the Gladio network. Abgrall added that there were further relationships between AMORC, of which he was once a member, and the French networks in Africa, the so-called “Foccart network”. According to Fusier, Abgrall concluded that “the Order of the Solar Temple, as well as AMORC and the ORT, was created and controlled by French and foreign secret services”.
    Other researchers have concluded that Luc Jouret, head of the OTS, co-operated with the far-right Belgian activist Jean-François Thiriart. In the 1970s, they founded an organisation whose goal it was to organise a split in the Communist Party of Belgium, forming the Parti Communautaire Européen, which then became the Parti Communautaire National-Européen. Bruno Fouchereau, author of La mafia des sectes and a writer for Le Monde Diplomatique, has alleged that this Belgium “Nazi-Maoist group” was actually controlled by the SDRA8, Belgium’s branch of Gladio...

    In 1975, Origas also held a series of meetings in Brussels, where he said that he saw that year as the beginning of a new era and the creation of a new super-race.




    http://www.philipcoppens.com/stateterrorism_2.html

    Origas was in direct contact with St. Germain according to him.

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    Right Wing Templar and Race Hate Groups in Europe

    Post  Floyd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:13 am

    It is interesting to note in this context, that the Norwegian white supremacist and racist killer Anders Breivik claimed that he was part of the Knights Templar Europe or Norway (a movement I am not sure exists or not) as well as attempting to associate himself with the neo nazi EDL (English Defense League) a spin off from the National Front and BNP (British National Party) which consists of largely football hooligans sent in to stir up racial hatred among the working classes via football violence and gang wars in working class estates predominately in the North of England and particularly in Lancashire and Yorkshire. The EDL has been infiltrated both by British and Israeli intelligence, the latter causing a huge rift in the group, splitting it between the traditional neo nazi and the muslim hating pro Israeli.
    All of these groups were influenced by the Nazis and contactee William Dudley Pelley and those he in turn inspired. In fact the EDL did have support from prominent conservative Jewish groups at one stage. It is obvious an attempt has been made to neutralise the neo nazi element in far right white supremacist groups giving some people the false impression that they are one and the same.

    Breivik's killing spree in Norway may well have been sponsored by a right wing backed crypto masonic Templar Group but it cannot be ruled out that he was indeed a lone nut with pretensions to be part of this white supremacist European Templar Network. It could well be he was a psychopath acting alone under the duress of his religion and politics of hate that most psychopaths are inspired by in this dark domain.It is an area these unfortunate creatures seem to excel in.


    In this equally interesting article below we see how intelligence groups like the CIA have used other so called new age and esoteric groups to fulfill a dark agenda. This really is a good read on mind control using cults as a medium.
    http://www.raven1.net/mcf/mindnet/mn116a.htm


    One thing is for certain however, is that Julian Origas was a part of several Templar groups with neo nazi connections and we are interested in him because he was working under the orders of St Germain. An ancient being operating out of his underground base.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Chimpsky on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:02 pm

    Floyd wrote:Breivik's killing spree in Norway may well have been sponsored by a right wing backed crypto masonic Templar Group but it cannot be ruled out that he was indeed a lone nut with pretensions to be part of this white supremacist European Templar Network. It could well be he was a psychopath acting alone under the duress of his religion and politics of hate that most psychopaths are inspired by in this dark domain.

    If he was alone he makes all the other gun totting crazies look like rank amateurs, compared to any other such event, say columbine, he was unbelievably efficient as a killer, that island was a lot bigger than a school.

    So unbelievably efficient that I don't believe for one minute he was alone, how could someone be more lethal than elite special forces by playing video games alone ?

    I think he had training, aid in procuring equipment, and accomplices.

    The strange fact that his "manifesto" was the same as the unabombers hints at him being a mind controlled operative, and the fact that no one noticed anything odd about his behaviour prior to the attack would indicate that a 'switch' was thrown in his mind.

    Why did the police take so long to respond ? Its the little things that make up the circumstantial evidence to events like this, like how he just gave himself up to the police thinking he would be hailed as a hero.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:19 pm

    The problem is that no groups are saying that he was affiliated with them. The Knights Templar Europe does not exist and I think the even EDL were a little bemused by him. That is why it cannot be fully ruled out he was a lone mothers boy nut with a fascination with arms and Templar Militia.

    On the other hand, it is also plausible that he was indeed used by an esoteric Knights Templar group. Perhaps the order came direct from St Germain himself or one of his subjects?

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in that police station.


    For your interest, here is listing of various Templar Groups .

    Cheers.


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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Chimpsky on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:01 pm

    Floyd wrote:.
    In this equally interesting article below we see how intelligence groups like the CIA have used other so called new age and esoteric groups to fulfill a dark agenda. This really is a good read on mind control using cults as a medium.
    http://www.raven1.net/mcf/mindnet/mn116a.htm

    For your interest, here is listing of various Templar Groups .

    Cheers.


    Templar Groups

    Very interesting finds, I've bookmarked both of them for reference, I've been dibbing in & out of this thread for some time, as some of the strands are pertinant to my own experiences / path, and I definately think there is a lot of truth behind the mumbo jumbo, to do with bloodlines, re-incarnation & UFOs', as well as covert agendas, hidden occult groups, black projects and double bluff "charletans" to blurr truth & fiction.

    I think that in recent times a lot of these "Templar" groups are on a sliding scale from dodgy occult groups to social clubs in capes, that said there is a wealth of symbology and mystery that is perfect for exploitation by mind control "agencies", either to embed & obscure "missions" or to create false memories to hide some thing else.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:22 pm

    Chimpsky wrote:

    Very interesting finds, I've bookmarked both of them for reference, I've been dibbing in & out of this thread for some time, as some of the strands are pertinant to my own experiences / path, and I definately think there is a lot of truth behind the mumbo jumbo, to do with bloodlines, re-incarnation & UFOs', as well as covert agendas, hidden occult groups, black projects and double bluff "charletans" to blurr truth & fiction.

    I think that in recent times a lot of these "Templar" groups are on a sliding scale from dodgy occult groups to social clubs in capes, that said there is a wealth of symbology and mystery that is perfect for exploitation by mind control "agencies", either to embed & obscure "missions" or to create false memories to hide some thing else.

    I agree, whilst many Templar groups are fixated on ceremony and with schizoid fascinations of the Knights Templar, there are however, those involved with nazi milita and extreme right politics as can be seen with Origas and Jouret. The former a disciple of St Germain. Some of these French Templar groups are associated with Italian Freemasonry. I think it is highly probable that the enjoyment of being associated with the myth of St Germain along with the notion of being part of an elite Templar group, no matter what guise it manifests itself in, attracts individuals of a particular superlative and self indulgent psychology. Ritual. Horses for Courses. Some folk just like to be special.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:54 pm

    It seems that St Germain is rather fond of employing, neo nazis, naval gazing pseudo Templars or right wing bigots or con men does it not?


    Even from his his little imaginary hole of Agartha.

    Or perhaps they are all programmes lol.


    After all it takes two to tango.

    Next up... an elite race who will only survive by changing their bodies. Skin shedding perhaps?

    Right.

    Perhaps we have a new set of Templars on our hands?


    Sometimes they die as in the case of Jouret's Solar Temple. Jouret, a neo nazi who told his followers that heaven awaits and that they were chosen. They would change the world. He told of the apocalypse. He found it. His followers died of bullet wounds, plastic bags over their heads or lethal injection. Who did it? The French secret service perhaps. Themselves? A right wing esoteric Templar group accused of gun running and money laundering?

    Who is St Germain's new disciple? St Germain likes a good Nazi does he not?

    Cults come and go. That is certain. But are they cults?


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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:26 pm

    Personally, I wouldn't trust these turdburgers, no matter what flowery language they use to cover themselves in, as far as I could throw them.


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    Post  Floyd on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:08 am

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.france-secret.com/socsec_art6.htm&ei=Ef88T_OWFYqs0QWZreTGBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGUQ7gEwCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djulian%2Borigas%2Bnazi%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DjSh%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26prmd%3Dimvnsob

    Initiatory orders or neo-Nazi movements?

    translated from french with google translate.

    More on Origas and Jouret and Templar and quasi Masonic groups.



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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Chimpsky on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:34 pm

    Floyd wrote:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.france-secret.com/socsec_art6.htm&ei=Ef88T_OWFYqs0QWZreTGBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGUQ7gEwCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djulian%2Borigas%2Bnazi%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DjSh%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26prmd%3Dimvnsob

    Initiatory orders or neo-Nazi movements?

    translated from french with google translate.

    More on Origas and Jouret and Templar and quasi Masonic groups.



    So it could be to do with arms smuggling / dealing, that could easily account for all the deaths, by any number of agencies or criminal gangs.

    France has long teetered at the brink of facism, this sounds as bad as the CIA; "SAC: Civic Action Service
    Founded in 1959 in order to provide "unconditional support to the objectives defined by the General", the agency became, over the years, a nebula mixing gangsters, policemen, politicians (the "Mr. Africa" ​​by Charles De Gaulle) and future elected officials (Charles Pasqua).
    It was a paramilitary organization that specializes in murder, blackmail, corruption, arms trafficking and drug money laundering "dirty", short, crime in all its forms, and also devoted body and soul to General de Gaulle."

    There are errors on the translation, such as the brief case was missing (introuvable) after the aircrash, so here is the original http://www.france-secret.com/socsec_art6.htm, I now know why the instructions on my Japanese camera are so infuriating Very Happy

    The large number of deaths has had a huge impact in France, and it is now almost impossible to start an organisation that looks like it could be a cult, or has any "mystical" conotations, even though from this it is clear that it was very unlikely to have been a "heavens gate" type scenario.


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    Post  Floyd on Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:35 am

    Chimpsky wrote:
    Floyd wrote:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.france-secret.com/socsec_art6.htm&ei=Ef88T_OWFYqs0QWZreTGBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGUQ7gEwCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djulian%2Borigas%2Bnazi%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DjSh%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26prmd%3Dimvnsob

    Initiatory orders or neo-Nazi movements?

    translated from french with google translate.

    More on Origas and Jouret and Templar and quasi Masonic groups.



    So it could be to do with arms smuggling / dealing, that could easily account for all the deaths, by any number of agencies or criminal gangs.

    France has long teetered at the brink of facism, this sounds as bad as the CIA; "SAC: Civic Action Service
    Founded in 1959 in order to provide "unconditional support to the objectives defined by the General", the agency became, over the years, a nebula mixing gangsters, policemen, politicians (the "Mr. Africa" ​​by Charles De Gaulle) and future elected officials (Charles Pasqua).
    It was a paramilitary organization that specializes in murder, blackmail, corruption, arms trafficking and drug money laundering "dirty", short, crime in all its forms, and also devoted body and soul to General de Gaulle."

    There are errors on the translation, such as the brief case was missing (introuvable) after the aircrash, so here is the original http://www.france-secret.com/socsec_art6.htm, I now know why the instructions on my Japanese camera are so infuriating Very Happy

    The large number of deaths has had a huge impact in France, and it is now almost impossible to start an organisation that looks like it could be a cult, or has any "mystical" conotations, even though from this it is clear that it was very unlikely to have been a "heavens gate" type scenario.


    Yes it is clear that all that many of these movements have aligned themselves with right wing politics and it is highly probable that agencies have used them or infiltrated them to one extent or another. The paranoid anti communist, elitist and anti Semitic Church Universal and Triumphant had a high ranking theologian who was part of a right wing American think tank promoting the Star Wars Military programme. The fraudulent con man and racist Guy Ballard was also influenced by fascist Pelley and his idea of placing St Germain on the the throne of the White House was in many ways a metaphor for placing an Aryan Master at the helm of the New Atlantis in the USA.

    St Germain appears again as a figure head for right wing supremacism with Mark and Elizabeth Prophet's cult but also with Julien Origas founder of the prototype of the Solar Temple. Both he and Origas had been part of Nazi organisations or neo nazi political movements. Origas working under his thousands of year old master St Germain, who was clearly a mythical front for extreme rightist occultism, Templar mythology and neo nazism. Jouret was connected to right wing terrorist attacks in Canada. There have also been allegations of child cruelty and paedophilia levelled against Jouret's cult also.

    The Solar Temple, a direct descendent of the fanatical Origas' ORT was in many ways nothing more than a front for money laundering and gun running whilst espousing extreme right politics under the auspices of hidden masters that no one ever actually saw. There is no doubt however that its leaders , where schizoid superlative types who believed that an elect new race would survive the impending apocalypse.

    Another good example of religious cults being a front for far right paranoia and fronts for intelligence agencies is the Moonies or Reverend Moon's Unification Church and you can read about his involvement with intelligence agencies here.
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1818.cfm

    In a similar fashion, some of the the contactee religions have also been used to push an extreme right wing agenda, including the advocation of spiritual eugenics as has been detailed throughout this thread.

    It is clear many new religions and cults are much more than what they appear to be.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Chimpsky on Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:41 pm

    Thats a cracking article you've found there, Floyd.

    My own take on ALL evangelists is that they are actually performing a "black mass" everytime they do the "speaking in tongues".In the Bible it is quite clear that when they speak in tongues, they are talking in real languages previously unknown to the person speaking.

    However when evangelists do this they are producing hideous sounds, nonsense, and animal noises, which is some thing that properly belongs to the black mass and the sabat.

    It comes as no suprise to find there is such a money trail, there are a lot of "anomalies" with these evangelical "churches", Al-Jazeera did an excellent documentary on how these organisations are promoted in the US military, especially in theatre.( Which again begs the question; who is funding these people ?)

    Whilst I'm on the corruption of Christians, the recent changing of the words "God" and "Lord" to yahweh in most Bibles is also part of the satanic agenda, as yahweh is the "dark" or Sinister power of the Moon, opposed to Jehova the "White" or good power of the Moon, meaning that millions are now praying to a sinister lunar deity.

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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:31 pm

    Chimpsky wrote:Thats a cracking article you've found there, Floyd.

    Well. Its a bit Christian heavy, nevertheless there are some excellent revelations about Moon and his connections in there which makes it worth the admission fee alone.
    As for Jehovah. Moon deity or otherwise. (noticed the word Reverend Moon)



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    Re: The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

    Post  Floyd on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:01 pm

    And so.... Julian Origas, Nazi, and esoteric Templar forms the Renewed Order of the Temple. Origas claims himself of the new King of Jerusalem.

    His Master, along with others come from an underground Kingdom in the hollow earth known as Agartha.

    His master was St Germain

    St. Germain, the God of Ballard, Prophet and others who have an agenda of far right politics. There is no doubt about this.

    The new elite race will be saved by changing their bodies for a new earth.

    A guy turns up on Project Avalon with an hooligan and a far right history. His master, 'Germain', who as usual no one has seen, is thousands of years old. He splits the alternative community and makes a move to form an elite group. Many offer themselves. Some leave, others arrive. There is much acrimony.

    Is this a new move. An attempt to use the cultism of the special Neo Templars on the conspiracy community? Rich pickings, no? Not been done before.

    Under the auspices of the Master? What is his name?

    But no one has seen him.

    Cult?
    Operation?
    Farce?
    A force for good in the world? But Given those associated with Germain we can only be alarmed. No?



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