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    HigherLove

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    The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:17 pm

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    This thread MAY have bee inspired by past lives, perhaps, but not led by them (I know: plenty of weasel words).

    Nutbar

    Also by:

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p165-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2666-egyptian-folklore-and-the-red-pill-part-2
    Edit: poster has since removed thread posts / content for unrelated reasons.



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    Recently I began to ask myself how a Druid from pre-history might be feeling in today's world. How does a Druid comport oneself in this madness?

    Then things just starting showing up. A lot.

    It seems my Dragon has directed me to begin at the beginning.

    Casting fear and doubt aside, I move forward as if I am one of many Druids wandering out there. My guess is many are far smarter than I, but one thing we seem to find in common is our gathering places just are not what they used to be.



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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:25 pm

    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p180-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history

    Starts at #181

    shiloh wrote:
    HigherLove wrote:
    THE
    THE VEIL OF ISIS;
    OR,
    MYSTERIES OF THE DRUIDS
    BY
    W. WINWOOD READE.
    (1861)

    _______________________

    BOOK THE THIRD.


    THE DRUIDS

    I.


    ORIGIN.

    ALTHOUGH the term Druid is local, their religion was of deep root, and a distant origin. It was of equal antiquity with those of the Persian Magi, the Chaldees of Assyria, and the Brachmans of Hindostan.

    It resembled them so closely in its sublime precepts, in its consoling promises, as to leave no doubt that these nations, living so widely apart, were all of the same stock and the same religion-that of Noah, and the children of men before the flood.

    They worshipped but one God, and erected to him altars of earth, or unhewn stone, and prayed to him in the open air; and believed in a heaven, in a hell, and in the immortality of the soul.

    It is strange that these offsprings of the patriarchs should also be corrupted from the same sources, and should thus still preserve a resemblance to one another in the minor tenets of their polluted creeds.

    Those pupils of the Egyptian priests, the Ph�nicians, or Canaanites, who had taught the Israelites to sacrifice human beings, and to pass their children through the fire to Moloch, infused the same bloodthirsty precepts among the Druids. As the Indian wife was burnt upon her husband's pyre, so, on the corpses of the Celtic lords, were consumed their children, their slaves, and their horses.

    And, like the other nations of antiquity, as I shall presently prove, the Druids worshipped the heavenly bodies, and also trees, and water, and mountains, and the signs of the serpent, the bull and the cross.

    The doctrine of the transmigration of souls which formed a leading theory on the system of the Brachmans, of the Druids, and afterwards of the Pythagoreans was obtained, through the Ph�nicians, from Egypt, the fatherland of heathen mythology.

    It cannot be denied that they also honored inferior deities, to whom they gave the names of Hu and Ceridwen, Hesus Taranis, Belenus, Ogmius, and the attributes of Osiris and Isis (or Zeus and Venus) Bacchus, Mercury, Apollo, and Hercules.

    From the sandy plains of Egypt to the icebergs of Scandinavia, the whole world has rung with the exploits of Hercules, that invincible god, who but appeared in the world to deliver mankind from monsters and from tyrants.

    He -was really a Phoenician harokel, or merchant, an enterprising mariner, and the discoverer of the tin mines of the Cassiterides. He it was who first sailed through the Straits of Gibraltar, which, to this day, are called The Pillars of Hercules: who built the first ship: who discovered the mariner's compass, and the loadstone, or lapes Heractius.

    It is gratifying to learn that his twelve labors were, in reality, twelve useful discoveries, and that he had not been deified for killing a wild beast and cleaning out stables.

    As the Chaldeans, who were astronomers, made Hercules an astronomer; and as the Greeks and Romans, who were warriors, made him a hero of battles; so the Druids, who were orators, named him Ogmius, or the Power of Eloquence, and represented him as an old man followed by a multitude, whom he led by slender and almost invisible golden chains fastened from his lips to their ears.

    As far as we can learn, however, the Druids paid honors, rather than adoration to their deities,
    as the Jews revered their arch-angels, but reserved their worship for Jehovah.

    And, like the God of the Jews, of the Chaldees, of the Hindoos, and of the Christians, this Deity of the Druids had three attributes within himself, and each attribute was a god.

    Let those learn who cavil at the mysterious doctrine of the Trinity, that it was not invented by the Christians, but only by them restored from times of the holiest antiquity into which it had descended from heaven itself.

    Although the Druids performed idolatrous ceremonies to the stars, to the elements, to hills, and to trees, there is a maxim still preserved among the Welsh mountaineers, which shows that in Britain the Supreme Being was never so thoroughly forgotten and degraded as he had been in those lands to which he first gave life.

    It is one of those sublime expressions which can be but faintly rendered in a foreign language.

    "Nid dim oxd duw: nid duw ond dim." God cannot be matter; what is not matter must be God."

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/motd/motd.htm



    [3:59:46 AM] Tonyblue: Now THIS has changed as the big dispensation Baby
    [3:59:51 AM] Tonyblue: "Nid dim oxd duw: nid duw ond dim." God cannot be matter; what is not matter must be God."
    [3:59:55 AM] Tonyblue: Higher Love's last line
    [4:00:13 AM] Tonyblue: God IS MATTER now AND the NONMATTER
    [4:00:39 AM] Tonyblue: This is why sex has become divine now
    [4:01:16 AM] Tonyblue: Technically this is the superstring modular duality replacing the old singularity
    [4:01:25 AM] Sweet Witch: Go on
    [4:01:27 AM] Sweet Witch: Yes
    [4:01:33 AM] Tonyblue: Well this is poignant
    [4:01:39 AM] Sweet Witch: I know
    [4:01:45 AM] Tonyblue: I am tempted to add this as a reply as well
    [4:01:48 AM] Sweet Witch: I'm listening
    [4:02:06 AM] Tonyblue: This is the entire Thuban cosmogony in a nutshell
    [4:02:21 AM] Tonyblue: The Healing of the most ancient 'rift' and separation
    [4:03:20 AM] Tonyblue: The Eve as 'Rib of Adam' fuc11up mirrored in the Creator 'losing' his creation.
    [4:03:32 AM] Tonyblue: The female NOT being independent from the male.
    [4:04:12 AM] Tonyblue: Why Sex and femininity became the Devil in medieval times and led to all the religious dogmas and abuse.
    [4:04:51 AM] Sweet Witch: Yeh and why witches were burned at the stake..
    [4:05:00 AM] Sweet Witch: and for what?
    [4:05:09 AM] Sweet Witch: Knowing the sacredness of the Divine!
    [4:05:12 AM] Sweet Witch: Secrets
    [4:05:21 AM] Tonyblue: Exactly
    [4:05:35 AM] Sweet Witch: Why in my life there can be no secrets.. I don't wanna get burned again.. lol

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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  THEeXchanger on Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:41 pm

    The name Drury in Ireland is derived from the native Gaelic Sept Mac An Druaidh
    which translates as 'son of the druid'.
    The name is most commonly found in the ancestral homeland Counties of Cavan, Roscommon and Monaghan.

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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:10 pm

    THEeXchanger wrote:The name Drury in Ireland is derived from the native Gaelic Sept Mac An Druaidh
    which translates as 'son of the druid'.
    The name is most commonly found in the ancestral homeland Counties of Cavan, Roscommon and Monaghan.


    My first name is Irish-Gaelic for "foot soldier". My last name (Burnett) is a tree in England. I joke about being bound to the earth and walking in circles.

    However, from the family coat of arms: Virescit vulnere virtus – Courage grows stronger at the wound.

    http://www.houseofnames.com/burnett-coat-of-arms


    Wounded soldier?

    eep


    Anyhow, thanks for the post. I am looking for all that I can find. It seems most Druids in the U.S. are associated with freemasonry. I may need to address the matter, but I doubt they are the ancients. Of course, some could be and just not know it.

    Okay...my brain will freeze any second again, so...


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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  Owlsden on Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:24 pm

    I find it very fascinating how many people today are actually taking the time to look into their Ancestry. My Sister being one of them for the family tree. I still do not know if we will ever know our "true roots" as we as Spirits have lived many times in the lines of time. Why did we choose to live during these times with the family we are in? What was it about the lineage we chose? Are there certain familiarities and who are our Brothers and Sisters, Mothers and Fathers? Who looketh out behind the eyes of our loved ones?

    The name Burnett triggered a memory. I went to Primary School in Scotland with a Colin Burnett, I remember being 8 years old or so and I loved him very much (secretly). He did not know, I did not tell. I knew he liked another popular girl there called "Susan". I was the least popular in that class, having an assignment where we each had to go around the room and tell the Teacher our Car Plate letter. My Mother didn't drive, didn't own a car (and still she does not).. I lied and made up the letter "T".. I did not want to say "I did not have one". Anyway, this brings me forward in time to another lost love of mine. His name was Breccene Ennis (from Ireland) and I met him on a turkey plucking farm... Those were the days..

    Anyway I am Scottish with my clan being McKay and McLean... It's always good to be in contact with Brothers from the Land.







    (McLean Clan)


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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:56 pm

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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:57 pm

    The Voynich Manuscript


    THEeXchanger wrote:The books' "code" can't be cracked, the language can't be identified, read, or interpreted by any experts and nobody really knows what it is or who made it to this day!

    The Voynich Manuscript is still unexplained to this very day.

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/11/history-mystery-scientists-age-voyn...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

    It's REAL and has been studied by experts. It is owned by Yale University and can be viewed in it's entirety right here:
    http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/digitallibrary/voynich.html

    Is it all a hoax, a fake book of spells, potion, or alchemy? Something to do with religion, the supernatural, or astrology? Is it an elaborate uncracked code - maybe for a secret society? Is it something even more mysterious? Something alien or a lost language. Something truly beyond or lost to our understanding.

    No one knows, and many scholars and experts have tried to crack this. This remains one of the, if not the most mysterious books in the World!
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    HigherLove wrote:PDF link to the Codex (with details, better images):

    http://www.isi.edu/natural-language/people/voynich.pdf

    Another site with a few links:


    http://www.archive.org/details/TheVoynichManuscript

    Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

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    FOR A POSSIBLE TRANSLATION, INCLUDING DETAILED DRAWINGS OF THE ALPHABET:

    William F. Friedman’s Transcription of the Voynich Manuscript
    Jim Reeds
    AT&T Bell Laboratories
    Murray Hill, New Jersey 07974
    September 7, 1994


    http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~reedsj/voynich/wff.pdf

    So: What did ATT seek to accomplish?


    And a caveat:

    1. This deals only with Item 1609.

    2. Below:


    The present paper should be regarded as a contribution to the historiography — but not to
    the solution — of the Voynich manuscript. In a later paper I hope to present a statistical analysis
    of the VMS text itself, based on Friedman’s transcription.

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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:01 pm

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    Creating Prehistory: Druids, Ley Hunters and Archaeologists in Pre-War Britain.



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    A talk by Adam Stout, Friday 26th October 2007, Central London. The Great War was a seismic event that shook British self-confidence and sense of purpose to its marrow. In the decades that followed many different groups of people turned to the ancient past to find ideas of order that would help them to make sense of a chaotic present. Some turned to books like Alfred Watkins’ The Old Straight Track while others sought to re-invent and re-define prehistory, according to the new and optimistic academic discipline of archaeology. This lecture will examine these groups and consider what they found appealing and how their world-views collided.

    Adam Stout is a Research Fellow at the University of Wales, Lampeter. His book, Creating Prehistory: Druids, Ley Hunters and Archaeologists in pre-War Britain, is to be published in the New Year by Wiley-Blackwell.

    also

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    Peter Knight is well known for his writing in the field of Earth Mysteries in the south of England. He is co-founder and chairman of the Dorset Earth Mysteries Group, lectures widely and leads many field trips every year to sacred sites. He is a prolific freelance writer for magazines and his previous books include: Ancient Stones of Dorset; Sacred Dorset - on the Path of the Dragon; Dorset Pilgrimages - a Millennium Handbook and 13 Moons - Conversations with the Goddess. He is also the author and compiler of a massive CD-ROM about Earth Mysteries which represents a vast labour of love and is the culmination of his findings over the last 15 years, as well as being a comprehensive overview of the latest research by other authors on this subject.

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    CREATING PREHISTORY: DRUIDS, LEY HUNTERS AND ARCHAEOLOGISTS IN PRE-WAR BRITAIN
    Adam Stout

    The Great War was a seismic event that shook British self-confidence and sense of purpose to its marrow. In the decades that followed many different groups of people turned to the ancient past to find ideas of order that would help them to make sense of a chaotic present. Some turned to books like Alfred Watkins’ The Old Straight Track while others sought to re-invent and re-define prehistory, according to the new and optimistic academic discipline of archaeology. This lecture will examine these groups and consider what they found appealing and how their world-views collided.

    Adam Stout is a Research Fellow at the University of Wales, Lampeter. His book, Creating Prehistory: Druids, Ley Hunters and Archaeologists in pre-War Britain, is to be published in the New Year by Wiley-Blackwell.

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    Peter Knight

    This lecture will draw on Peter's many years of research and extensive knowledge of sacred sites, especially in southern Britain, as well as the material contained in his many books, notably from his forthcoming book The Wessex Astrum, which presents an astounding new discovery of an ancient geometrical shape in the Wessex landscape involving Stonehenge, Avebury, Glastonbury, sacred hills and wells and many other sacred sites.

    Peter Knight is well known for his writing in the field of Earth Mysteries in the south of England. He is co-founder and chairman of the Dorset Earth Mysteries Group, lectures widely and leads many field trips every year to sacred sites. He is a prolific freelance writer for magazines and his previous books include: Ancient Stones of Dorset; Sacred Dorset - on the Path of the Dragon; Dorset Pilgrimages - a Millennium Handbook and 13 Moons - Conversations with the Goddess. He is also the author and compiler of a massive CD-ROM about Earth Mysteries which represents a vast labour of love and is the culmination of his findings over the last 15 years, as well as being a comprehensive overview of the latest research by other authors on this subject. http://www.stoneseeker.net

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    The Jewish mystical system of the kabbalah has had a fascinating history as through inspiration and speculation it has shape-shifted to take on a variety of interpretations and expressions. It has been used and developed by Jew and Gentile, mystic and magician, alike over the centuries. This talk will focus on some of the key features in its evolution and the main traditions embodying it today.

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    In the history of Western esotericism, the work of Jean Richer (1915-1992) makes a unique and important contribution. Recognised in France as an outstanding esotericist, Richer expanded the range of zodiacal symbolism and its interpretation in art, architecture, and landscape, from ancient Greece to eighteenth-century Europe. Applied to sacred geography, this symbolism echoes Plato’s description of the ideal city-state. This would radiate in twelve zones around a central shrine, each one corresponding to a sign of the zodiac. The plan of the city would thus mirror the heavenly order. Evidence exists that this strand of traditional thinking permeated ancient Greece on every level. From imagery on vases to locations of oracle centres, zodiacal symbolism and its cosmic harmony emerges as a great unity underlying the classical world.

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    John Gordon is a Fellow of the Theosophical Society. He is also the author of several books ranging from Ancient Egyptian philosophy and mysticism to ancient metaphysics and esoteric astrology.



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    Druids in pre-Roman Britain

    English History



    Druids

    In simple terms the Druids were the priests of the Celtic tribes in Britain. But to state that fact does not convey the breadth of their influence in Celtic society. The Druids were a sort of super-class of priests, political advisors, teachers, healers, and arbitrators among the Celtic tribes.

    They had their own universities, where traditional knowledge was passed on by rote (i.e. memorized). Druids had the right to speak ahead of the king in council, and may in some situations have held more authority than the king. They acted as ambassadors in time of war, they composed verse and upheld the law. They were a sort of glue holding together Celtic culture.

    We know that the Druids used both animal and human sacrifice, and that many of their observances centred on oak groves and water. The Isle of Anglesey, in present-day Wales, was a centre of Druidic practice.

    The Druids as we know them today exist largely in the words of the Romans. The trouble with the reports of the Romans is that they were a mix of reportage and political propaganda. It was politically expedient for the Celtic peoples to be coloured as barbarians and the Romans as a great civilizing force.

    Certainly the Romans seem to been genuinely horrified by the instances of human sacrifice among the Druids. In 61 AD the Romans exterminated the Druids of Anglesey, effectively destroying druidism as a religious force until a form of druidism was revived in the 19th century.

    http://www.britainexpress.com/History/prehistory/druids.htm



    This is after all of the perversion came in. Going to have to dig deeper for Druids of Antiquity.






    The Llewellyn Encyclopedia
    Neo-Druidism Since the 1700s


    This article was written by Tadhg MacCrossan on February 25, 2003

    posted under Druidism

    The last vestiges of the Filídhecht schools were stamped out in the 1600s as Elizabethan English conquered and destroyed most of Ireland’s remaining Gaelic culture. The "plantations" of Ulster, and the extension of the Pale beyond Leinster into Munster and all the way to Connacht wiped out the old Gaelic aristocracy and most of it’s culture. Later came Cromwell, who sent many Irish leaders off to "Hell or Connaught!"

    In Scotland, a few Bards and Vates were left in the Gaelic areas of the Hebridean islands, but the old Gaelic order was in for more English oppression. Ironically, it was the English who first took an interest in the Druids of antiquity in the 1700s. William Stukeley fancied that they were the builders of Stonehenge and other megalithic monuments. Naively, the English Masons invented mock orders of Druidism incorporating various speculative ideas with flights of fancy. Welshmen such as Edward Davies took off with these new fads during the Age of Enlightenment when Romanticism was growing as a movement against the Age of Reason. The pendulum swung, and when the Romantic era began, Edward Williams dubbed himself "Iolo Morganwg," invented his own form of Druidism (or "Bardism"), and forged documents which he attributed to a Welshman named Llywellyn Sion.

    He wrote his forgeries in Welsh and had them published with his own English translations as the Iolo Mss by the Welsh Manuscript Society in the early 1800s. Two posthumous volumes of forgeries, edited by John Williams were published together in 1862 as the Barddas. This was at first proudly hailed as a book of ancient Welsh mysticism, but as early as the late nineteenth century was suspected as fraudulent. In the twentieth century, it was conclusively proven to by G. J. Griffiths to have been a forgery.

    Trying to establish a great bardic tradition for South Wales to compete with North Wales, Iolo Morganwg falsified an historical account indicating Druidism had survived into the 1600s. He claimed that the information he presented had come from earlier bards such as Llywellyn Sion.

    While Morganwg did help to establish a southern Welsh eisteddfod (eye-stedh-vod) tradition, his phoney neo-Druidism reflects Deism, Unitarianism, neoplatonic ideas. His doctrines of reincarnation involved a place of punishment known as "Annwn." "Abred" for this world, "Gwynfyd" for heaven, and "Ceugant" for God, reflect Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysics, as well as Deism.

    Morganwg invented the coelbren y Beirdd, a primitive version of the modern Welsh alphabet of Latin letters designed for carving in wood. He also created the motto Y Gwir yn erbyn Y Byd, "The truth against the world," and four "Albans" (Hefin, Elfed, etc.) The three vertical lines called a trilithon, (also known "as rays of Awen") are his creation as well. Other concepts include the dasgubell rhod, the Hirlas horn, the Gorsedd and the mistransliteration of Uates as "Ovates."

    Morganwg must have been well-read in the classical commentaries, but unfortunately he knew nothing of Irish tradition, which had better preserved Druidic ways. The Gorsedd of Bards, "Ovates," Druids at Welsh eisteddfodau and the organizations which spawned English Druidic Orders (such as those run by Thomas Maughan and Ross Nichols) all incorporated the pseudo-Druidry of Morganwg (Williams) into their degree workings.

    Later, ideas from Gardnerian Wicca were incorporated, as well as the usual Hermetic and Cabalistic grimoire magic. Sadly, and ironically, it seems that neo-Druidry made up for its lacking in authentic Druidism by borrowing materials from various other systems. Druidism is Celtic, and would naturally be better represented in a Celtic country such as Ireland or Scotland than England; unfortunately Wales had been more dominated by English culture than Ireland.

    Celtic culture blossomed in Ireland’s late nineteenth century literary renaissance. Even Anglo-Irish writers such as W. B. Yeats and Douglas Hyde, became enthralled with Ireland’s Celtic past. Renewed interest in folklore and folk custom set the scholars, philologists, folklorists and musicians off collecting materials in Ireland’s Gaeltachts (gayl-tokhts), where people still spoke Irish Gaelic as an everyday language.

    Great medieval Irish books were finally getting translated and published. Renowned scholars such as George Calder, Robin Flowers, Lady Gregory, R. A. Stewart Macalister, Rudolf Thurneysen, Osborn Bergin, Myles Dillon, T. F. O’Rahilly and Sean Delargy made seminal contributions to the study of Irish historical and literary antiquity, in the process influencing Ireland's great modern day bards and poets.

    In the highlands of Scotland, a great Celtic renaissance was also spreading. Indeed, interest in early Celtic folklore had begun in Scotland soon after the James MacPherson forgeries were exposed. MacPherson had claimed to have collected ancient Celtic lays from the Fenian cycle, although he himself had composed them in the original Gaelic. In Mack’s Fenian tales, Finn Mac Cumhail was called "Fingal," and Oisín (usheen) was called "Ossian" (awshin). This Fenian material was so influential that the Romantic movement’s passion for medieval literature spread because of the popularity of his literary creations. Even symphonic music was composed under the inspiration of MacPherson’ s Fingal and Ossian stories, and it was very popular on the continent.

    In the latter half of the nineteenth century, Alexander Carmichael began collecting Highland material from folklore. It is still being published long after his death, but his eight-volume collection Carmina Gadelica remains a greater source for those interested in late forms of Celtic folk magic.

    In the United States, the Druidic movement began somewhat hazily through North American versions of the Druid Orders of England. Later, during the time of Irish emigration, in the twentieth century, interest in Irish romanticism grew but Irish- and Scottish-Americans’ Celtic interest was still limited. (Unfortunately, many Welsh-Americans had also forgotten their Welsh roots, since their ancestors had come over in the 1700s.

    In Great Britain, though, a full-fledged revival was brewing. From London, the late Colin Murray ran an organization called the G.S.O. (Golden Section Order) and published a beautiful, hand-colored, illustrated newsletter called the New Celtic Review. In Scotland, the Keltic Research Society was formed by J. A. Johnston. ("Kaledon Naddair"), who published the Inner Keltia journal, reprints of folktales, and The Pictish Shaman. He set up a College of Druidism in the early 1980s out of Caer Aedin, or Edinburgh, teaching Cabalah and Iolo Morganwg’s Barddas tradition, as well as some genuine Celtic lore.

    Pristine Celtic religion seems to be the main interest of only a few groups today; most of them are focused on Mother Goddess worship or pan-European mixed with neopagan Wicca. There are several "groves" and other covens of Dianic Wicca, most of which are devoted to Mother Goddess worship and to Robert Graves’ The White Goddess. Except for a few scattered Celtic groups around the English-speaking world, comardia Druuidiacta Bitons, headquartered in America, is one of the few purely Celtic spiritual and cultural movements to be found. It has spread from Australia to Quebec and France. Druidiactos is not just another neopagan organization, but a postmodern Celtic renaissance movement starting at the grass roots level. The Breton Druids’ organization (allied with Druidiactos) is called Comardiia Druuidiacta Aremorica. It publishes materials in French which authentically represent a revival of the Druidic or Celtic religious system. Their Ver-Druis (Chief Druid) is called Esunertos, and their Allio-Ver-Druis (Assistant Chief Druid) is Gobannogenos.

    I have led Comardia Druidiacta Bitons and Uxsello-Druidiaxton (the Druidic college). To my Breton colleagues I am known by their translation of my first name into Gaulish: Tasgos (Gaulish for Tadhg). The Allio-Ver-Druis is Uindoderuos (M. G. Boutet) of Quebec. The Celtic spiritual path is Druidism, which is the magic of the Druidecht (modern Irish draíocht) of the Druids, the Filídhecht (modern Irish, filíocht) of the filídh, and the Celtic magic of the whole Celtic culture and mythology.

    Not everyone is a Druid in the Celtic path of Druidiactos anymore than all Hindus are Brahmans, all Christians are priests, bishops or ministers, or all Jews Rabbis. The Druid is the priest of the people of the Celtic path. His or her job is to direct ceremonies, make sure mistakes are not made in ritual, organize gatherings, and to help others. The Celtic path also involve Warriors, the martial arts traditions, chivalry, manners and etiquette.

    Druidiacta is also very much a cultural organization devoted to studying the Celtic ways, past and present, and preserving ancient Celtic heritage. Much of this work is being done in the Gaeltachts of Ireland, Scotland, and many areas of Wales, Brittany and Cornwall. Celtic heritage can also be found intact in Nova Scotia, the Appalachian mountains, and many large cities around the United States and Canada. There are Celts in Australia and New Zealand who are preserving their heritage for these nations as well.

    Druidism is not Iolo Morganwg’s Bardism, nor the British-Israelite faith, nor Cabalism, nor neo-platonism, nor Pythagoreanism, nor Wiccans nor is it feminist Mother Goddess worship. It is the cultural and spiritual heritage of the Celtic peoples, a polytheistic religion descendant from the archaic proto-Indo-European past. It was carried into western Europe by Indo-European who spoke the Celtic dialects.

    The Celtic folk—kings, mothers, druids, warriors, milkmaids, farmers and herdsmen, settled and conquered western Europe and taught the Stone-Age people there to use bronze, to speak Celtic, and of the magic of Druidism.

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    Druids
    by David Rankin

    ANNE ROSS. Druids. 191 pages, 72 figures, 24 colour plates. 1999. Stroud & Charleston (SC): Tempus; 0-7524-1433-X hardback [pounds sterling]19.99 & US$32.50.

    We have information about the Druids, but little knowledge.

    We have headings covering their interest in cosmology, divination, sacrificial rites (including human sacrifice), the immortality of the soul, judicial powers, social and political regulation. The inner structure, the integrated content of their thought, remains unknown. Their teaching methods were oral. The Coligny Calendar, a complex achievement, suggests impressive intellectual capability. Druids were an Indo-European learned sacral caste, one of several in the Celtic domain, and some of their ideas may have been rooted in pre-Indo-European customs and beliefs. Greeks could be reminded of Pythagoreans or even Stoics. In our own times, they have been compared to Shamans, a notion which gains colour from archaic elements fossilized in the Irish literary tradition and the recurrent bird theme and head cult in Celtic religion. Irish references to Druids are rich and varied; but they do not resolve the central problem, even though they show Druids having precedence in speech over kings and surviving to coexist with Christian former opponents. However, insular sources often may be contaminated by Christian hostility, and, gathering through time, clouds of ignorance about Druidic character and teaching of Druids.

    The earliest mention of Druids in antiquity seems to occur in a lost Peripatetic 3rd-century BC essay called the `Magikos'. Not long after, Sotion of Alexandria classified them with Chaldean mystics, Persian Magi, Greek Pythagoreans and Indian `Gymnosophistai', all given to enigmatic philosophical and theological modes of expression. So Diogenes Laertius tells us in his variably useful biographical history of the philosophers. Much later, in the 3rd century AD, emperors-in-waiting, Alexander Severus, Diocletian and Aurelian are reported to have received obscurely hinting prophecies from female Druids. Perhaps we should suspect propaganda. In the 4th century AD, Ausonius, poet and professor in Burdigala, refers to relatives and friends with druidic connections. But the great period of druidic influence was long passed. The women who spoke to the emperors probably resembled `wise women' of the later Celtic world more than philosopher statesmen like Divitiacus, the friend of Cicero's brother Quintus and of Julius Caesar. The latter's disingenuously objective account of the Druids in his Commentaries reveals his opinion of their potential as opponents of his designs on Gaul, and consequently on Rome. Augustus banned them, and Claudius `rooted them out'. In their more fundamentalist mode, as wild maenads, they inspired resistance in the wars following the Boudiccan revolt (60/61 AD). They also supported the revolt of Civilis (71 AD). Although Ireland, and presumably its Druids, were affected by continental influences before Patrick's mission (428 AD), his arrival surely signals the decline of their greater influence together with the last significant infusion of `Roman' culture into an alien country.

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    "MAGIKOS": http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/147/Rives.pdf






    From page 44:

    One of the most elaborate
    examples of this distinction occurs in Philo. Philo describes
    “the true magic” as “the scientific vision by which the facts of
    nature are presented in a clearer light”, and says that it is held in
    such reverence that no one may become Great King of the Persians
    unless he has mastered this lore.



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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:16 pm

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    Some Clarifications for Today's Druids



    1. Real Druids do not engage in bloody sacrifices of any kind.

    2. Real Druids are capable of being friends with / friendly to any benign being (e.g., be it Dragon or Feline).

    3. As follows from #2: Druids stand for equality amongst all beings;

    4. As follows from #3: Druids must deactivate self-defense codes* in the presence of malevolence as a means to disarm;

    5. As follows from #4: Druids must surrender to higher power, and call forth brethren of all that is Holy from the Ancients (more on this as it comes -- I am trying to get the major points down fast enough.

    6. Druids of today: those of you reborn of the ancients: Refrain if possible from establishing any formal ties with religion or religious groups.

    7. Druids of today: Remember the ways without HIERARCHY.

    8. Druids of today: Remember the Holy Ancients who paved the way for Jesus of Nazareth!

    9. Druids of today: Remember your skills: the "holy" works have been perverted, but you can see through**

    10. True magic is the scientific vision by which the facts of nature are presented in a clearer light.

    From page 44:
    One of the most elaborate examples of this distinction occurs in Philo. Philo describes “the true magic” as “the scientific vision by which the facts of nature are presented in a clearer light”, and says that it is held in such reverence that no one may become Great King of the Persians unless he has mastered this lore.


    * This involves both the Druid and the Being in Error

    **Explaining "how you do it" will be quite difficult. The goal is harmony. There is no need to convert anybody to the Druid way of "Life of the Ancients".


    f/u

    reverence for nature
    druid amnesia
    getting lost in past lives
    we are co-creating a vision to invite the wisdom of the ancients into our hearts/minds
    who the ancients were may not be known to us at this time
    much value to be found
    this will all make sense some day
    akashic records
    sacred texts
    scribes
    circumventing spacetime gap from "them" to "us": all available in Timespace!


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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:16 am


    Ancient Druidism

    However, the Order of Druids is ageless, having existence in the dim mists of antiquity. The Druidic Order is perhaps the oldest fraternal organization in the world. The first traces of Druidism dates 6000 years before the birth of Christ or the Christian Era and far beyond the scope of written history. There seems to be no time era when evidences of their ancient existence cannot be found.

    Students of antiquity find in the ancient ruins evidence in stone of that which we today call Druidism. That which marks them as Druidic is the pattern in which these stones are laid which show that their builders used certain stars and the sun as points of reference. Such monuments are found in Europe, Asia, South America and the United States. Everyone connects the ancient Druids with the British Isles. However, history reveals that the British Isles were only the last great stronghold of the brotherhood, particularly in Ireland and Wales. They also were numerous in Brittany and Normandy in France, where their monuments are still to be seen covering acres of land in geometric formation.

    The members of the Ancient Brotherhood of Druids were the most learned men of their time. They were the physicians, astronomers, mathematicians, musicians, poets, philosophers, legislators and judges of the people as well as their educators in the matter of religion and learning. They were held in such esteem that the Kings sent their sons to be educated by them. In the matters of learning and government their authority was absolute.

    Because of their intellect the Druids were feared by the Romans. Julius Caesar found the Druids in the way when he attempted to subdue the Britons. He nearly exterminated them, and wrote concerning them. Augustus Caesar followed and succeeded in driving their remnants to a little island called Mona, now called Aglesey.

    The Ancient Druids were marvels of intellectual grasp, profound thought and clear expression. The ancient records, as handed down, throw an illuminating light on the character and customs of our forefathers. When Caesar invaded Britain, 55 B.C., Druidism was the prevailing philosophy. Its cardinal points were “Belief in Supreme Power of the Universe,” and “Belief in the Immortality of the Soul.” In the Ancient Druidic state the Druid was teacher of truth and the dispenser of justice. As teachers they taught that the light of intelligence destroys the darkness of superstition and ignorance, hence the first precept of Merlin, the great Druidic teacher, “Labor diligently to acquire knowledge for it is power....”

    HERE IS WHERE I START HAVING PROBLEMS, HENCE GOING AT IT AS A SOLO DRUID UNTIL...?


    Eight Points In Favor of the Druidic Order

    Because it is the oldest Order in the world.
    Because it is based upon sound and universal principles.
    Because its object is to unite men together irrespective of nationality or creed.
    Because through a well regulated system of dues, it affords protection in sickness and in death.
    Because it cares for the widows and orphans of deceased members.
    Because it believes in the universal brotherhood of mam and as such does not interfere with religion or politics.
    Because if you travel, you will find Druids always willing to help you in business or otherwise.
    Because Druidism advocates absolute respect to the flag and obedience to the laws of the country under which you live. If you will join the American Druids (a branch of the United Ancient Order of Druids of the world), you will be a better citizen.

    http://www.neopagan.net/UAODbooklet.html




    CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ANCIENT DRUIDS AND HINDUS


    Druidry and Hinduism are seemingly at opposite ends of both the religious and geographical spectrums. Extraordinary connections between the two cultures belie the split between East and West. Linguistic, archaeological and genetic evidence support the theory of common ancestry. In addition, similarities in beliefs, spiritual practices, myths, symbols, laws and customs, traditions, holidays, and astrology all point to a link between the two spiritual practices and their members. This compelling data warrants further scientific investigation.

    http://druidry.org/pdfs/hindus_and_druids.pdf


    Interesting information, but fellow newbies can probably see that we are sort of on our own, it seems.

    Honoring flag and country? That was NEVER a requirement.

    The hallmark of a Druid is their acts of service in the world, not their allegiance to any government, state, country, system, or planet (although many are here now because of the desperate state of Gaia).

    This is a gross 3D distortion of ancient practices that defy 3D understanding and compassion.

    It was not for "us" to establish grand meeting places in America to perpetuate the grotesque twisting of our history / way of being!

    IMPORTANT: The Druid tradition has long been an oral one; however, there was a time when learning things this way by rote was easier to accomplish.

    It may appear that we have been left out due to a lack of writings, but keep in mind that all of us have access to the ONE universal mind, just as the ancients.


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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:44 am

    A thread name change, in honor of Brook...

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    ...and all of the hard work that she did here.

    In honor of all of those of the ancient times, who were giving us facts and not simply telling stories.

    So, Cheers! to ancient Egypt, and The Druids of pre-history who honed their skills while there...






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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:53 pm

    Moving forward in time takes us backwards, again. Just for a bit. Gotta get some stuff in here on perverted practices that entered freemasonry....

    The Ancient Mysteries and Secret Societies
    Which Have Influenced Modern Masonic Symbolism



    WHEN confronted with a problem involving the use of the reasoning faculties, individuals of strong intellect keep their poise, and seek to reach a solution by obtaining facts bearing upon the question. Those of immature mentality, on the other hand, when similarly confronted, are overwhelmed. While the former may be qualified to solve the riddle of their own destiny, the latter must be led like a flock of sheep and taught in simple language. They depend almost entirely upon the ministrations of the shepherd. The Apostle Paul said that these little ones must be fed with milk, but that meat is the food of strong men. Thoughtlessness is almost synonymous with childishness, while thoughtfulness is symbolic of maturity.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta04.htm


    THE DRUIDIC MYSTERIES OF BRITAIN AND GAUL


    "The original and primitive inhabitants of Britain, at some remote period, revived and reformed their national institutes. Their priest, or instructor, had hitherto been simply named Gwydd, but it was considered to have become necessary to divide this office between the national, or superior, priest and another whose influence [would] be more limited. From henceforth the former became Der-Wydd (Druid), or superior instructor, and [the latter] Go-Wydd, or O-Vydd (Ovate), subordinate instructor; and both went by the general name of Beirdd (Bards), or teachers of wisdom. As the system matured and augmented, the Bardic Order consisted of three classes, the Druids, Beirdd Braint, or privileged Bards, and Ovates." (See Samuel Meyrick and Charles Smith, The Costume of The Original Inhabitants of The British Islands.)

    The origin of the word Druid is under dispute. Max Müller believes that, like the Irish word Drui, it means "the men of the oak trees." He further draws attention to the fact that the forest gods and tree deities of the Greeks were called dryades. Some believe the word to be of Teutonic origin; others ascribe it to the Welsh. A few trace it to the Gaelic druidh, which means "a wise man" or "a sorcerer." In Sanskrit the word dru means "timber."

    At the time of the Roman conquest, the Druids were thoroughly ensconced in Britain and Gaul. Their power over the people was unquestioned, and there were instances in which armies, about to attack each other, sheathed their swords when ordered to do so by the white-robed Druids. No undertaking of great importance was scatted without the assistance of these patriarchs, who stood as mediators between the gods and men. The Druidic Order is deservedly credited with having had a deep understanding of Nature and her laws. The Encyclopædia Britannica states that geography, physical science, natural theology, and astrology were their favorite studies. The Druids had a fundamental knowledge of medicine, especially the use of herbs and simples. Crude surgical instruments also have been found in England and Ireland. An odd treatise on early British medicine states that every practitioner was expected to have a garden or back yard for the growing of certain herbs necessary to his profession. Eliphas Levi, the celebrated transcendentalist, makes the following significant statement:

    "The Druids were priests and physicians, curing by magnetism and charging amylets with their fluidic influence. Their universal remedies were mistletoe and serpents' eggs, because these substances attract the astral light in a special manner. The solemnity with which mistletoe was cut down drew upon this plant the popular confidence and rendered it powerfully magnetic. * * * The progress of magnetism will some day reveal to us the absorbing properties of mistletoe. We shall then understand the secret of those spongy growths which drew the unused virtues of plants and become surcharged with tinctures and savors. Mushrooms, truffles, gall on trees, and the different kinds of mistletoe will be employed with understanding by a medical science, which will be new because it is old * * * but one must not move quicker than science, which recedes that it may advance the further. " (See The History of Magic.)


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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:05 pm

    LMAO!

    I just went searching for more "expert" advice. I renamed this thread TODAY. My search words: "druids of antiquity and Egypt".


    This is what came up:




    Great. I am now my own doggone expert. We could be in trouble.



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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  HigherLove on Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:17 pm

    Uh...nevermind.

    That was like coming out of the closet again and being rejected.







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    Re: The Neo-Druid Chronicles

    Post  mudra on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:50 am


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