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    Illuminatus - time is up...

    Post  Anchor on Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:49 pm

    I am sharing this from Avalon, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39809-MAKE-THIS-GO-VIRAL-from-an-unknown-person

    Hi all

    I am putting this information to you all that was sent to me via e-mail, I could not trace who this person was, but the content of this information is in all our hearts and I am sure we all relate to the content, and I have no hesitation to bring this information for all of us to read and make it go viral to every friend or foe, all media, all government post.

    The e-mail stated " please use as you see fit, so it starts here.

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    Our Awakening to the Truth, and the Fact of the Illuminati

    The time is at hand for the Awakening of human beings. You are invited to join your brothers and sisters that have already awakened to the realization that our world has not been run under the leadership of elected officials, but instead the “Illuminati”, described below:
    Illuminati

    The Illuminati is the name given to the elitist, self serving “group” that seek, and very much do control substantial parts of our lives, and always work to increase this control.

    The Illuminati’s time is coming to an end. Until this year, for tens of thousands of years, our world has been run by the Illuminati. Our government officials answer only to them. In order to win their bet with God and control the Earth for their selfish purposes, they have deceived the majority of humanity, utilizing willing “successful” human accomplices against humanity as follows:

    1. They poison us daily with metals, chemical and biological agents from military jet aircraft (“chemtrails”) that expand into toxic clouds that are blocking our sunlight, contaminating our air and water, impairing our bodies, are increasing their profit centers by our further dependency upon drugs, medical care; all toward their effort of population reduction.
    2. They own virtually all major corporations, major banks and are dismantling our society with the destruction of our economy and repossession of our assets.
    3. They control our governments by printing our money in their privately owned central banking system, charging us principal and interest and giving our money to any expense they chose. This central banking system is not required to make any public disclosure for any transaction. They are accountable to no one. Why does our government cooperate? Our cowardly government officials as their partners in exchange for personal benefits and out of fear for the consequences: Abraham Lincoln did not allow the central banks to take over; John F. Kennedy tried to eliminate it. All human citizens will enjoy free health care, education, food, transportation and all necessities (and luxuries) the Earth has to offer with the removal of the Illuminati and their human parasitic corroborators.
    4. They own and control all major media outlets, entertainment companies, including the movie and music industries. They have kept us ignorant with direct, subliminal messages and the worst possible messages of greed to our children and adults alike. We are taught by their reality shows, that to betray, lie, cheat and steal is the objective, that the means to be the last man standing is the ultimate goal.
    5. They control our educational systems and universities; our children are being taught virtually everything but the truth.
    6. They have created human dependency for energy, food and health care, to increase human poverty, with centralized control and dependency that may be removed with the flip of a switch.
    7. They contaminate our bodies and minds with unhealthy meat-rich processed diets and foods, marketing of all products creating insecurities with the false belief that food consumption will solve our problems, that true beauty is only achieved with make-up, changing apparel styles and cosmetic surgeries. This has resulted into obesity, disfigurement, eating disorders and psychological issues among women and men.
    8. They control all major religions through the Vatican, infamous worldwide for rampant child molestation with legal impunity.
    9. They orchestrate their plans within the places and temples of their many secret organizations, placing their symbols in plain sight out of sheer arrogance and as reminders to government officials of who is in charge, including the all seeing eye, pyramid, obelisk, flame, light radiance, and coded numbers of 13, 33, located in such prominent locations as government capitals, US dollar bills, the Statue of Liberty, and the Vatican. Entertainers proudly display the hand signs of the pyramid and longhorn.
    10. Our military, surveillance and intelligence branches answer only to them, the idea these “Iron Fist” forces are being directed by an elected “commander in chief” is a charade for the diminishing percentage that yet does not know. They are at war against all humanity, pretending that we are free. They start all wars with media support of false-flag self inflicted attacks, funding both sides, then choosing the winner by cutting off the loser. Embroiled in illegal wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya to name a few, they are embarking set off WWIII with the Iran oil embargo toward the effort of inciting Iranian retaliation, whether actual or staged.
    11. Our governments, corporations and contractors have worked in partnership with malevolent Extra Terrestrial beings, in Technology Transfer Programs, abduction and experimentation of humans; travelled at near light speed (without gravitational, friction and visual limitations), utilizing technologies that render the use of all fossil and polluting fuels unnecessary.
    12. They have ridiculed and lied about the extensive universal presence of both malevolent and benevolent ETs alike. Will they provide ET disclosure on their terms to fulfil their agenda?
    13. How many of you have claimed that you would never have allowed mass extinctions by your government, as happened most recently by the Nazis in Germany, Poland and across Europe? How many of you have said that you wouldn’t go if they came for you? Will you lift a finger if they come for someone in the next town, the next neighbourhood, your next-door neighbour or someone in your family? Will anyone stand by you if they come for you?
    14. How many still believe on 9/11 that the World Trade Center buildings collapsed on themselves under the heat and explosions of two commercial airliners? What caused the demolition of Building 7? Why was the collapse of Building 7 reported by several television broadcasts before it even happened? How many believe that a commercial jet airliner crashed into the Pennsylvania field, or that a jet airliner blew up the pentagon? Yet, realizing that over 3000 citizens were murdered in order to start the “war on terrorism”, how many of you pretend that is so by willingly succumbing to illegal searches and x-ray invasion, as law-abiding citizens? More appropriately, who hasn’t?
    15. They have built at our expense Deep Underground Military Base (D.U.M.B.) facilities and high-speed transportation lines for their secret projects and protection against our discovery and cataclysmic events. Conversely, they have constructed FEMA Camps with layers of fencing topped with inward barbed wire. Why haven’t whistleblowers come forward with photographs, videos and testimony? Some have and are available via YouTube and elsewhere on the internet.

    Your Personal Decisions Looking Forward

    The Illuminati’s time of leadership to all humans is coming to an end; that is not up for negotiation. Your decisions, your heart and your faith, shall determine not only how quickly the Illuminati are removed from power, but the immediate human condition, including your personal future. You are now aware of your reality, (ample and extensive information is available for your verification on internet sources), you have the opportunity and Free Will to decide your fate.

    We have the immediate opportunity to reach higher levels of consciousness, to restore our souls, bodies and rejoin a new life with our Extra Terrestrial and Terrestrial bothers and sisters. Many of your terrestrial humans that have awakened before you, are “Lightworkers”, some are literally your human brothers and sisters. They are available to help you with this wonderful opportunity, and transition of humanity, but also to reclaim our Earth planet. You may realize that until now your purpose was undiscovered. Perhaps, you incarnated to provide your service as a Lightworker to serve a most vital role to your human brothers and sisters in the most important days and months ahead.

    We must expel the Illuminati once and for all. We must provide patient love and service to our families and neighbours without prejudice: The meek shall inherit the Earth.

    Please work with others to distribute this information. Search within your own heart for the resonance of this message, your purpose going forward, and your path to cleanse your body and mind of pollutants and rebuild your strength. If you choose this path, you simply need to relearn that which you have forgotten. Please be patient with those that wish to remain unchanged. They will rejoin us eventually, whether it’s this lifetime or the next.
    Provide Leadership by Example

    Meditate to heal and bring balance to the energy centers of your soul. Allow yourself to radiate the love and the light of the Creator.

    It is possible that in the coming times, there may be situations that are inconvenient. It is always a good idea to have some ideas to deal with disruptions in services, supplies of food and the instinct for panic among your family, friends and neighbours. Please provide calm assuring love, food shelter and care to each other in this confusing but exciting time. Please remember that we are all family, there is no separation; we came here to pass this test together.

    Do not be further deceived; the Illuminati is most clever. Trust your heart only. The Illuminati must be removed so that mankind may know the truth and by knowing the truth, be set unconditionally free.

    To clear your immediate obstacles from outside interference, please regularly recite the following protection command:

    I Command at this time that all negative entities, extraterrestrials and terrestrials leave my sphere at once and forever, immediately vacating my home, my surrounding area, all vicinities of my family, my fellow Lightworkers, and all of my financial and business affairs.

    Until the Illuminati have left our realm, please recite aloud, in your meditations, forward to others, elected officials, community leaders, media outlets and social networks the, “We Command” (as I or We) notice for their expedient removal. This Command also provides notice for assistance from our Extra Terrestrial brothers and sisters to this outcome.







    We Command

    We, your brothers and sisters request that you join us in Commanding the removal to all intentional obstacles to truth and the perpetrators of the lies who we call out as being known as: “the Illuminati”! This includes the New World Order (as they call themselves), their institutions and secret organizations, which are destroying our economies, our countries, our earth and denying the birthright of the each human alive today.

    We Command at this time and forever that the Illuminati and all duplicitous officials immediately vacate themselves from all positions of power and their presence on Earth, commence an expedient and orderly dismantlement of their institutions, and turn themselves over to honest humans for justice.

    We Command at that all Illuminati, all government, business, military, justice and law enforcement officials must enforce no action against any human being, their friends, associates or family, that are taking this action and making this Command.

    We Command the all Central Banks, World Bank and affiliated banks, return all assets and funds (including all special fund accounts created for “benevolent” causes), as well all other central bank funds to their original sources immediately, disband, and dismantle all physical structures that represent all entities owned by the members of the central banks.

    We Command that all US, UK, Israeli, Vatican and other government officials (and Royal families, there is no further necessity for such disparity of wealth and class system) that have knowingly cooperated with the Illuminati; and in so doing, failed to uphold their respective Constitutions and inalienable rights of human beings, therefore must immediately resign and return all moneys gained from all business and political efforts to their original sources.

    We Command that all humans in the entertainment, news media and corporate world, that knowingly cooperated with all Illuminati efforts to deceive and defraud humanity immediately return all of their assets to government treasuries for redistribution.

    We Command that the US military and its allies immediately withdraw all armies from foreign territories, cease and dismantle all surveillance, chem-trail and HAARP programs against the Earth and her people.

    We Command that all available non-polluting energy technologies are made public and available to the rest of the world for immediate use.

    We Command that the corporate leaders of utilities (energy providers) provide an orderly transition to non-polluting energy sources and technologies.

    We Command immediate full disclosure of government programs and history with false flags to incite wars, Deep Underground Military Base (“D.U.M.B”) facilities, interaction with Extra Terrestrial (“ET”) beings, ET Technology Transfer Programs, conducting, cooperation and permission with ETs with abductions and experimentation programs on humans, and development and operation of all types of crafts that travel without gravitational, wind friction and visual limitations.

    We Command that all properties taken in foreclosures be returned to their former owners, and that settlements on outstanding debts with non-Illuminati creditors are settled only and after funds are redistributed to human citizens subsequent to treasury replenishment and redistribution of recovered Illuminati assets.

    We Command, that the truth be told! All the lies and distortions perpetrated at the hands of the Illuminati must be fully recorded and disclosed in an honest and truthful account that is available to all the people of Earth.

    Let the truth ring out – and set all men unconditionally free, and let the lamp of love be re-lit in the hearts of all men.

    To those members of the illuminati who have been traumatized and tortured since birth, in order to create psychopathic personalities capable of committing horrific atrocities, we forgive you. It is time for us ALL to let move beyond this game of duality, of good and evil; to return to a state of love and oneness.

    We recognize that you are part of the whole and without you, we are not complete. We understand that allowing you to return to love is the only way we can return to wholeness. We also understand that this will be extremely difficult for you as it will entail a return to feeling in those parts that have been cut off from love.

    We understand that you have played very difficult roles in this game of duality (many of us have played them as well in different lifetimes), and that because of the acts you have perpetrated returning to love will be a very painful affair as it will mean feeling the pain you have caused others. Thus, if you choose to step down and let go of the power you have amassed, and choose to return to love we offer to you our love and support.

    We urge you to find that spark, hidden deep down inside you that will transform the cold fortresses of your hearts, back into temples of love. There truly is no escaping the fact that we are all one!




    Regards and thanks to whoever it was.
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    Re: Illuminatus - time is up...

    Post  Anchor on Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:51 pm

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    I like the message in the opening post. It is always very helpful to have a vision of what you want, as this helps the manifestation process that we can all do. Our envisioning, done with such focus and intent that we can even "feel" the thing we want will surely make it come to pass. Affirmations of the "We Command" type will surely help make this process easier for those not practised at their own focussed intent.

    I see the commands and demands of the message in the original post, being consistent with my vision

    In the mean time, for this last gasp of the illuminati and other forces of darkness - thanks for the opportunity you provided us all to learn.

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    Dear Illuminatus,

    The game is almost up. Now is time for you to join us in the service of the one infinite creator or leave

    The time is upon us when our living host, Gaia - the Earth, will change and no longer support such strongly negative expression such as you have provided so well.

    To the deceived among you - you can be forgiven for what has happened, and to those I say free yourselves from the deception you have lived under, those of you who truly are of the light, NOW turn your backs on negativity - revert to your true nature of love and service and join us, you will surely be forgiven in time.

    To the others, those on the negative path by freewill choice and commitment, I salute you too but the time has come for you to leave us.

    Your job is done and you cannot stay!

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    Post  Carol on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:29 pm

    Hi Anchor John and thank you for starting this thread.

    One also needs to remember that behind the illuminati, the true controllers are the negative ETs (greys, reptilian and demons). It is they who rule the planet. One could even go so far as to add that earth is Lucifer's dominion. Waking up means realizing one has value. One's soul is the prize of demons. This is the time to recognize we are also spiritual warriors and we are empowered to fight that which would destroy us. This battle can occur in many forms The key is to turn your backs on negativity - revert to your true nature of love and service to others. Remember the name of Christ. Use it when in peril and use it in thanksgiving.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:26 am

    I agree with both of you. I have been considering the possibility of an Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, administered in this Solar System by a Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family --- and the possibility that Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible-Freedom was 'created' by Renegate-Reptilians (in violation of Galactic-Law) -- led by Archangel Michael, who was 'wroth with the Dragon (the Galactic PTB?) resulting in the 'War in Heaven' (600,000 year war?) -- and that Earth-Humanity might be a lone-island in a Hermaphrodite-Reptilian Universe -- where Absolute-Obedience to a Reptilian God and/or Goddess is the Law of the Universe -- at the center of a Universal Church Theocracy -- with no separate state, constitution, bill of rights, etc. -- where Michael-Horus-Jesus and the Human Race are hated and despised. This is just a science-fiction theory of mine -- and I am VERY uncomfortable thinking about it. As I wind-down my posting, I'm thinking about doing some Religious and Political Science Fiction writing -- as a modernized methodology of 'Doing Theology'. My point is similar to your point, Carol. We are probably dealing with much bigger fish than the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, or the Bilderberg Group. Who knows, we might be dealing with the Nommos! What fate Omoroca? What Would Daniel Jackson Say? One more thing. If one regime is on the way out -- we need to make damn sure that a better regime is on the way in. It might take a really nasty faction to get the present controlling faction out -- but the new guys and gals might be a lot tougher!! I have been attempting to contemplate a kinder and gentler -- but much more righteous -- Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire -- with all of the best aspects of Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set -- and none of the worst aspects. This is where Religious and Political Science Fiction might be a useful tool -- for a completely ignorant fool!! Consider this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Glt9XDxEs The City-States, Moon, Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, Monarchy, Papacy, Secret-Societies, Ruling-Families, and Alphabet-Agencies seem to all ultimately work for the same boss. I continue to think that a lot of the secret solar system stuff is REALLY cool -- but it also seems to be somewhat corrupt, cruel, creepy, and sick. I've been attempting to conceptually place myself on the 'inside' of all of this -- in a completely reformed and purified version of that which presently exists in secret -- throughout the solar system. I guess I'm looking for an 'Inside-Job' in a Solar System Made New aka New Solar System aka United States of the Solar System.


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    Re: Illuminatus - time is up...

    Post  firefly on Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:44 am

    Thank you Anchor, we must make this viral and I shall be sending it to as many people that I feel will accept the truth. The time has come and thank you to all those benevolent ET's especially the Andromedans for I feel it is they also that will battle with the undesirables, if not already. And you are correct Carol, there is a spiritual battle also going on for our souls and Lucifer is the head honcho. His time is up now. We are one.

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    Post  ceridwen on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:50 am

    Hi all, I am new

    Interesting Anchor, my only reservation is the concept of "they"

    Aren't we all, from small to big, participating?

    Take the humble hamburger flipper, isn't he contributing to the poisoning too? Or the bank teller, does he not support the corruption of his employers? Or the doctor passing on medication that he knows is poison? Or the shopkeeper selling diet soda with aspartame?

    I could go on but it seems that "they" are us going around our normal business

    Those that will lose their jobs would not support changes and yet, each one is supporting "they"

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    Post  Carol on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:15 am

    Aloha and welcome ceridwen. Indeed, from the perspective that you bring even those who do not realize it, they too are part of the whole shebang.


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    Post  ceridwen on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:26 am

    Thank you for the welcome Carol Flowers
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    Post  Chimpsky on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:26 pm

    ceridwen wrote:Hi all, I am new

    Interesting Anchor, my only reservation is the concept of "they"

    Aren't we all, from small to big, participating?

    Take the humble hamburger flipper, isn't he contributing to the poisoning too? Or the bank teller, does he not support the corruption of his employers? Or the doctor passing on medication that he knows is poison? Or the shopkeeper selling diet soda with aspartame?

    I could go on but it seems that "they" are us going around our normal business

    Those that will lose their jobs would not support changes and yet, each one is supporting "they"

    Shocked

    Welcome, and whilst this is the case, the very strucure of society makes it almost impossible to live, without in some way participating. The computer you are using right now is being powered by electricity, and for most people that has been generated in a manner detrimental to the Earth and all who dwell there on.

    It is the duty of all of us to reduce our "illuminati" footprint, do as little of their work as you can, and work on emancipating ourselves from their clutches, this is in essence primarily a spiritual undertaking.

    It is the Ego or egos that they create & encourage in all of us that denudes our very soul and delivers us, bound & gaged to the dark ones.

    Change what is within, and you change the rest too, it is our Karma that gives them room to manouver, as we get what we deserve, sloth is a sin of the soul not of the body.
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    Post  ceridwen on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:01 pm

    Chimpsky wrote:
    ceridwen wrote:Hi all, I am new

    Interesting Anchor, my only reservation is the concept of "they"

    Aren't we all, from small to big, participating?

    Take the humble hamburger flipper, isn't he contributing to the poisoning too? Or the bank teller, does he not support the corruption of his employers? Or the doctor passing on medication that he knows is poison? Or the shopkeeper selling diet soda with aspartame?

    I could go on but it seems that "they" are us going around our normal business

    Those that will lose their jobs would not support changes and yet, each one is supporting "they"

    Shocked

    Welcome, and whilst this is the case, the very strucure of society makes it almost impossible to live, without in some way participating. The computer you are using right now is being powered by electricity, and for most people that has been generated in a manner detrimental to the Earth and all who dwell there on.

    It is the duty of all of us to reduce our "illuminati" footprint, do as little of their work as you can, and work on emancipating ourselves from their clutches, this is in essence primarily a spiritual undertaking.

    It is the Ego or egos that they create & encourage in all of us that denudes our very soul and delivers us, bound & gaged to the dark ones.

    Change what is within, and you change the rest too, it is our Karma that gives them room to manouver, as we get what we deserve, sloth is a sin of the soul not of the body.

    Thank you Chimpsy

    I agree with you, we must endeavour to reduce our illuminati footprint, voting with our wallets whilst we devoid them from their most precious commodity: money

    My electricity company is a new, small, family owner company that is not illuminati friendly. It focust on alternative forms of energy while delivering good and reasonable priced energy Very Happy

    Frugal living is the key Big Grin 2
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    Re: Illuminatus - time is up...

    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:49 pm

    Chimpsky wrote:

    It is the duty of all of us to reduce our "illuminati" footprint, do as little of their work as you can, and work on emancipating ourselves from their clutches, this is in essence primarily a spiritual undertaking.

    It is the Ego or egos that they create & encourage in all of us that denudes our very soul and delivers us, bound & gaged to the dark ones.

    Change what is within, and you change the rest too, it is our Karma that gives them room to manoeuvre, as we get what we deserve, sloth is a sin of the soul not of the body.

    I think this is an excellent post. Im not sure if you agree Chimpsky but the idea that outside forces are guiding and manipulating humanity I think is unrealistic and somewhat fantastic. I would say that we are not part of an alien programme or agenda but it is only through the consciousness, and the collective individual will of humanity that we can change things beginning with ourselves.That will is strong. To be a slave of consciousness of fatality you would have to follow the Dark Forces who would lead you into believing such a thing. Many of the so called aliens are stooges for a controlling agenda.

    Nice post la
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    Post  THEeXchanger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:48 pm

    just add a little magic to the end of it

    "We command, and, we demand this - to be. Will it to be, so, it will be, and, so it is." 13 - Susan Lynne Schwenger

    (did we say that) LOL
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:59 pm

    THEeXchanger wrote:just add a little magic to the end of it

    "We command, and, we demand this - to be. Will it to be, so, it will be, and, so it is." 13 - Susan Lynne Schwenger

    (did we say that) LOL

    Aliens suck. We ARE the power. And SO IT WILL BE
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    Post  THEeXchanger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:01 pm

    floyd, everyone is NOT from here (earth) - so, in essence, we all, are aliens - of one form, or another
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:06 pm

    THEeXchanger wrote:floyd, everyone is NOT from here (earth) - so, in essence, we all, are aliens - of one form, or another

    Ashes to ashes dust to dust. There are no aliens nor humans. Just what we have in our imagination. No 5D 4D etc There is nothing.

    But seen as we are here...
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    Post  Sanicle on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:14 pm

    Haha, the ultimate argument. Lolerz No fair when we are stuck in this illusion and have to deal with a group consciousness that gives them power in this game. But then again, knowing that removes fear and gives us strength, so maybe it's a good reminder. Wink
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    Post  Floyd on Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:05 am

    Sanicle wrote:Haha, the ultimate argument. Lolerz No fair when we are stuck in this illusion and have to deal with a group consciousness that gives them power in this game. But then again, knowing that removes fear and gives us strength, so maybe it's a good reminder. Wink

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    Post  THEeXchanger on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:23 am

    Floyd wrote:
    THEeXchanger wrote:floyd, everyone is NOT from here (earth) - so, in essence, we all, are aliens - of one form, or another

    Ashes to ashes dust to dust. There are no aliens nor humans. Just what we have in our imagination. No 5D 4D etc There is nothing.

    But seen as we are here...

    your physical body - goes back to ash and dust, your physical eyes are also at the same level as your physical body

    very sad, that very few feel, see, and, sense a lot more
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    Post  Floyd on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:34 am

    THEeXchanger wrote:
    Floyd wrote:
    THEeXchanger wrote:floyd, everyone is NOT from here (earth) - so, in essence, we all, are aliens - of one form, or another

    Ashes to ashes dust to dust. There are no aliens nor humans. Just what we have in our imagination. No 5D 4D etc There is nothing.

    But seen as we are here...

    your physical body - goes back to ash and dust, your physical eyes are also at the same level as your physical body

    very sad, that very few feel, see, and, sense a lot more

    Hola


    Ashes to ashes.
    I was meaning that allegorically. Everything in the universe is seemingly manifest then made unmanifest. The inbreathing and outbreathing of Brahma. Aliens existing on different dimensions are just as subject to this as humans are on this dimension. Eventually all will contract beyond concepts of manifestation, para Brahma in a kind of mass recognition of no thing or nirvana. The non physical is as unreal as the physical.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:48 am

    I wish to reiterate my fear that we might be in the process of jumping out of the frying-pan and into the fire. I'm truly not a 'peace at any price' kind of guy. I'll keep asking hard questions -- even if things seemingly go in the direction I desire. Remember what happened with the 'idealism' of Communism -- and even the 'idealism' of the Third Reich. I get the distinct impression that the Secret Rulers of This Solar System do NOT like to lose -- and that they are NOT about to peacefully pass the baton to the 'New Guy' -- whoever that might be. They'd probably rather fight than switch.
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    Post  THEeXchanger on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:26 am

    some wise people have often said,
    that only those who can live NOW in the present can find peace
    -to live in the future, can make one very anxious
    and, to live in the past, can make one very depressed, sad, and, full of hate

    i think, there is some wisdom - in that statement,
    some wise person made back on project avalon/and, project camelot
    i think, it was

    BE HERE NOW !!! (WAS, that thread rhythm's ???)
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    Post  ceridwen on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:50 am

    The mistakes of the present have their root in the oblivion of the past. To be well rooted we need to be aware of our origins and how we came about where we are now. That way we can make amends and create the future we desire, avoiding making the same mistakes of the past

    Perhaps the biggest problem we are facing is the distortion of history which renders us unable to plan a productive and harmonious future

    Living in the now is good but it was never intended as being disconected from the wheel of life perhaps? Harp
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:06 pm

    THEeXchanger wrote:some wise people have often said,
    that only those who can live NOW in the present can find peace
    -to live in the future, can make one very anxious
    and, to live in the past, can make one very depressed, sad, and, full of hate

    i think, there is some wisdom - in that statement,
    some wise person made back on project avalon/and, project camelot
    i think, it was

    BE HERE NOW !!! (WAS, that thread rhythm's ???)
    ceridwen wrote:The mistakes of the present have their root in the oblivion of the past. To be well rooted we need to be aware of our origins and how we came about where we are now. That way we can make amends and create the future we desire, avoiding making the same mistakes of the past

    Perhaps the biggest problem we are facing is the distortion of history which renders us unable to plan a productive and harmonious future

    Living in the now is good but it was never intended as being disconected from the wheel of life perhaps? Harp
    I agree with both of you. The past-present-future thing is a problem which I have attempted to solve by focusing upon the present -- and viewing the past and future with peripheral vision. Perhaps 25% Past -- 50% Present -- 25% Future is an appropriate proportionality. Similarly, I feel as if we're living in Purgatory -- and on the brink of Heaven and/or Hell. I define Hell-Purgatory-Heaven a bit differently than the Roman Catholic Church -- but I think about these three words a helluvalot.

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