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    Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Sun May 16, 2010 4:16 am

    If there is a parallel Earth , there has to be dimensions,The only way i can describe a dimension(frqeuncies of sound) is musically.
    If you pluck a guitar string , you will hear the note, and maybe one of it harmonic 5th or octave note...however harmonics are infinite and are not audible to the ear....the parallel earth is a harmonic of this Earth as evrything resonates(oscillates) at the atomic level including the earth and its harmonics......also our body blood and brain has to change freqiencie.
    Imagine the C chord C,E,G,C,...blood body brain and soul.......all that happens is that the frequencies change to give us a more spiritual body...i.e 2nd inversion G C.C E
    brain,blood,soul,body...or a higher leel of consciousness.
    Our senses cannot see these dimension ,but that is how E.T travel over great distances by thought..
    Once we reach the desired frequency, and conquered a alot of our ego and fear , then we will ascend to a new frequency, new dimension parallel Earth....
    all thoughts on this subject gratefully received
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT on Sun May 16, 2010 5:18 am


    Just try this
    http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/online/index.php?page=unistructure0
    also you have parallel universes and parallel selves...
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Sun May 16, 2010 7:32 am

    GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT wrote:
    Thank you goddess of purple light , excellent data
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Mercuriel on Sun May 16, 2010 5:29 pm

    Of course...


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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Mon May 17, 2010 4:51 am

    how will the 5th dimension be different to the third , if no-one has been there?
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Carol on Mon May 17, 2010 7:10 am

    We can visit some of the various dimensions while in an altered state of consciousness using intention and a nexus point of energy as a frequency locator. Often times while dreaming we also have access to some of the alternate dimensions as our spirit can travel when ego is set aside. Meditation is also a tool used that utilizes frequency generated by the various mantras. Of couse if a being from another dimension is about one can touch it and instantly be in the dimension of the being manifesting. And one can experience consciousness split (where the experience is one of existing in various locations) or consciousness merged as in singularity (one with all of existence).

    As spiritual beings what we can do is amazing. We are only restricted by ego and our conscious focus.


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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  hippihillbobbi on Tue May 18, 2010 2:39 am

    Hey Dominic--

    Cool thread. i think one way we've learned about 5th dimension, besides all the ones Carol has mentioned already, is by listening to the stories of people who say they've travelled there and returned. i realize there's not just ONE dimension or plane that a soul who's passed-over may access ..... but if we look comparitively at various accounts of OBEs, NDEs, etc., then we can find a good number of consistent experiences. e.g., communication is essentially always telepathic; movement/travel is NOT confined to the speed of light; time-travel is normal; etc. those things alone are enough to make me want to DO A CARTWHEEL ..... but then we can add "minor" things like no physical pain, no polarity, awareness of Oneness/Unity, constant sense of purpose-joy-communion ..... to name just a few! lol

    Geeeeeee whillikers ..... caint hardly wait!!!

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    p.s. oh yeah ..... and we'll be able to FLY too! YES!!!
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Floyd on Tue May 18, 2010 2:56 am

    There are lots of pretty and complicated diagrams around demonstrating various dimensions. Also there are lots of different people explaining where they are and how to get there. Clearly, the dimensions are objective whilst the experience of the dimension is subjective leading to the varied descriptions of such places. I think there is a lot of nonsense written about dimensions and Ascension and it is a misunderstood area. Im not in the habbit of copying and pasting the works of others but below is the wisest commenatry on Ascension and dimensions I have seen and personally I totally agree with it. Im sure not everyone will though but that doesnt really matter does it?

    Fifth dimensional consciousness is a case in point (although I prefer
    to use the term the consciousness of spirit). The events of 2012
    present a very real opportunity for those who are prepared, because
    developments will destroy all that is familiar to us and force the
    stopper out of the bottle. If our minds can withstand this, if we can
    hold up without the things which at present give us our identity, and
    if, of course, we are still physically alive, we will face a new world
    with new possibilities.


    • Three dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the
      personality

    • Four dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the causal
      vehicle or soul

    • Five dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of spirit

    The small print says that accessing higher consciousness does not
    remove from us the responsibility to look after ourselves physically.
    Physicality is the point of a Man. We are designed to walk on the Earth
    and draw our creative inspiration from Heaven. The point of incarnation
    is to come down to Earth and take our journeys onwards. If we don’t want
    physicality then we don’t incarnate; and if we don’t look after our
    physicality then we will not remain in incarnation.

    The small print also says that the consciousness of spirit is not a
    substitute for materiality; it is a supplement to it and made possible
    by it. Then, if we live consciously and in alignment with the
    requirements of spiritual consciousness, our physical bodies will be
    subsumed in our spiritual being and we will ascend, a process which
    removes us from the Planetary energy field. Until then we must share its
    vicissitudes.

    The wise person will not be sitting around waiting for ascension.
    Literacy and communication, both expressions of throat centre energy
    have opened wide the door to spiritual opportunity. The New Age was made
    possible by them; but written sources can only point out the way, they
    cannot take us on the journey beyond personality consciousness. Knowing
    of something does not denote the ability to access it.



    Personal power and a clear intention are the only things that can move
    us out from the prison of self-reflection, which I will define as seeing
    the world in terms of what we have experienced before, which is the
    nature of personality consciousness.



    Personal power comes from engaging with life and accepting its
    challenges with detachment, not retreating into intellectualism. What
    ideas abstracted from a practical context can do and have done is excite
    and inflame the non-aligned personality until it is reeling with
    self-importance. We have seen much of this in the last 25 years. The
    Internet is encouraging a lot of virtual Masters. They know of many
    things, but they cannot use their knowledge to bring about a result on
    the material plane because they have no positive relationship with
    materiality, and have no personal power as a consequence.



    Knowing about the consciousness of spirit does not offer any of us
    protection against anything, but it may inspire us to live our lives
    differently, provided we still have that option. Then we may know it
    indeed, and that would change everything.
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Tue May 18, 2010 3:06 am

    Floyd wrote:There are lots of pretty and complicated diagrams around demonstrating various dimensions. Also there are lots of different people explaining where they are and how to get there. Clearly, the dimensions are objective whilst the experience of the dimension is subjective leading to the varied descriptions of such places. I think there is a lot of nonsense written about dimensions and Ascension and it is a misunderstood area. Im not in the habbit of copying and pasting the works of others but below is the wisest commenatry on Ascension and dimensions I have seen and personally I totally agree with it. Im sure not everyone will though but that doesnt really matter does it?

    Fifth dimensional consciousness is a case in point (although I prefer
    to use the term the consciousness of spirit). The events of 2012
    present a very real opportunity for those who are prepared, because
    developments will destroy all that is familiar to us and force the
    stopper out of the bottle. If our minds can withstand this, if we can
    hold up without the things which at present give us our identity, and
    if, of course, we are still physically alive, we will face a new world
    with new possibilities.


    • Three dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the
      personality

    • Four dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the causal
      vehicle or soul

    • Five dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of spirit

    The small print says that accessing higher consciousness does not
    remove from us the responsibility to look after ourselves physically.
    Physicality is the point of a Man. We are designed to walk on the Earth
    and draw our creative inspiration from Heaven. The point of incarnation
    is to come down to Earth and take our journeys onwards. If we don’t want
    physicality then we don’t incarnate; and if we don’t look after our
    physicality then we will not remain in incarnation.

    The small print also says that the consciousness of spirit is not a
    substitute for materiality; it is a supplement to it and made possible
    by it. Then, if we live consciously and in alignment with the
    requirements of spiritual consciousness, our physical bodies will be
    subsumed in our spiritual being and we will ascend, a process which
    removes us from the Planetary energy field. Until then we must share its
    vicissitudes.

    The wise person will not be sitting around waiting for ascension.
    Literacy and communication, both expressions of throat centre energy
    have opened wide the door to spiritual opportunity. The New Age was made
    possible by them; but written sources can only point out the way, they
    cannot take us on the journey beyond personality consciousness. Knowing
    of something does not denote the ability to access it.



    Personal power and a clear intention are the only things that can move
    us out from the prison of self-reflection, which I will define as seeing
    the world in terms of what we have experienced before, which is the
    nature of personality consciousness.



    Personal power comes from engaging with life and accepting its
    challenges with detachment, not retreating into intellectualism. What
    ideas abstracted from a practical context can do and have done is excite
    and inflame the non-aligned personality until it is reeling with
    self-importance. We have seen much of this in the last 25 years. The
    Internet is encouraging a lot of virtual Masters. They know of many
    things, but they cannot use their knowledge to bring about a result on
    the material plane because they have no positive relationship with
    materiality, and have no personal power as a consequence.



    Knowing about the consciousness of spirit does not offer any of us
    protection against anything, but it may inspire us to live our lives
    differently, provided we still have that option. Then we may know it
    indeed, and that would change everything.

    Hello Floyd
    Therefore you see dimensions as consciousness instaed of solid matter?
    lol
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Floyd on Wed May 19, 2010 1:37 am

    dominic777 wrote:
    Floyd wrote:There are lots of pretty and complicated diagrams around demonstrating various dimensions. Also there are lots of different people explaining where they are and how to get there. Clearly, the dimensions are objective whilst the experience of the dimension is subjective leading to the varied descriptions of such places. I think there is a lot of nonsense written about dimensions and Ascension and it is a misunderstood area. Im not in the habbit of copying and pasting the works of others but below is the wisest commenatry on Ascension and dimensions I have seen and personally I totally agree with it. Im sure not everyone will though but that doesnt really matter does it?

    Fifth dimensional consciousness is a case in point (although I prefer
    to use the term the consciousness of spirit). The events of 2012
    present a very real opportunity for those who are prepared, because
    developments will destroy all that is familiar to us and force the
    stopper out of the bottle. If our minds can withstand this, if we can
    hold up without the things which at present give us our identity, and
    if, of course, we are still physically alive, we will face a new world
    with new possibilities.


    • Three dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the
      personality

    • Four dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the causal
      vehicle or soul

    • Five dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of spirit

    The small print says that accessing higher consciousness does not
    remove from us the responsibility to look after ourselves physically.
    Physicality is the point of a Man. We are designed to walk on the Earth
    and draw our creative inspiration from Heaven. The point of incarnation
    is to come down to Earth and take our journeys onwards. If we don’t want
    physicality then we don’t incarnate; and if we don’t look after our
    physicality then we will not remain in incarnation.

    The small print also says that the consciousness of spirit is not a
    substitute for materiality; it is a supplement to it and made possible
    by it. Then, if we live consciously and in alignment with the
    requirements of spiritual consciousness, our physical bodies will be
    subsumed in our spiritual being and we will ascend, a process which
    removes us from the Planetary energy field. Until then we must share its
    vicissitudes.

    The wise person will not be sitting around waiting for ascension.
    Literacy and communication, both expressions of throat centre energy
    have opened wide the door to spiritual opportunity. The New Age was made
    possible by them; but written sources can only point out the way, they
    cannot take us on the journey beyond personality consciousness. Knowing
    of something does not denote the ability to access it.



    Personal power and a clear intention are the only things that can move
    us out from the prison of self-reflection, which I will define as seeing
    the world in terms of what we have experienced before, which is the
    nature of personality consciousness.



    Personal power comes from engaging with life and accepting its
    challenges with detachment, not retreating into intellectualism. What
    ideas abstracted from a practical context can do and have done is excite
    and inflame the non-aligned personality until it is reeling with
    self-importance. We have seen much of this in the last 25 years. The
    Internet is encouraging a lot of virtual Masters. They know of many
    things, but they cannot use their knowledge to bring about a result on
    the material plane because they have no positive relationship with
    materiality, and have no personal power as a consequence.



    Knowing about the consciousness of spirit does not offer any of us
    protection against anything, but it may inspire us to live our lives
    differently, provided we still have that option. Then we may know it
    indeed, and that would change everything.

    Hello Floyd
    Therefore you see dimensions as consciousness instaed of solid matter?
    lol

    Hi Dom
    I dont see anything as solid matter lol
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Wed May 19, 2010 3:32 am

    Floyd wrote:
    dominic777 wrote:
    Floyd wrote:There are lots of pretty and complicated diagrams around demonstrating various dimensions. Also there are lots of different people explaining where they are and how to get there. Clearly, the dimensions are objective whilst the experience of the dimension is subjective leading to the varied descriptions of such places. I think there is a lot of nonsense written about dimensions and Ascension and it is a misunderstood area. Im not in the habbit of copying and pasting the works of others but below is the wisest commenatry on Ascension and dimensions I have seen and personally I totally agree with it. Im sure not everyone will though but that doesnt really matter does it?

    Fifth dimensional consciousness is a case in point (although I prefer
    to use the term the consciousness of spirit). The events of 2012
    present a very real opportunity for those who are prepared, because
    developments will destroy all that is familiar to us and force the
    stopper out of the bottle. If our minds can withstand this, if we can
    hold up without the things which at present give us our identity, and
    if, of course, we are still physically alive, we will face a new world
    with new possibilities.


    • Three dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the
      personality

    • Four dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of the causal
      vehicle or soul

    • Five dimensional consciousness – the consciousness of spirit

    The small print says that accessing higher consciousness does not
    remove from us the responsibility to look after ourselves physically.
    Physicality is the point of a Man. We are designed to walk on the Earth
    and draw our creative inspiration from Heaven. The point of incarnation
    is to come down to Earth and take our journeys onwards. If we don’t want
    physicality then we don’t incarnate; and if we don’t look after our
    physicality then we will not remain in incarnation.

    The small print also says that the consciousness of spirit is not a
    substitute for materiality; it is a supplement to it and made possible
    by it. Then, if we live consciously and in alignment with the
    requirements of spiritual consciousness, our physical bodies will be
    subsumed in our spiritual being and we will ascend, a process which
    removes us from the Planetary energy field. Until then we must share its
    vicissitudes.

    The wise person will not be sitting around waiting for ascension.
    Literacy and communication, both expressions of throat centre energy
    have opened wide the door to spiritual opportunity. The New Age was made
    possible by them; but written sources can only point out the way, they
    cannot take us on the journey beyond personality consciousness. Knowing
    of something does not denote the ability to access it.



    Personal power and a clear intention are the only things that can move
    us out from the prison of self-reflection, which I will define as seeing
    the world in terms of what we have experienced before, which is the
    nature of personality consciousness.



    Personal power comes from engaging with life and accepting its
    challenges with detachment, not retreating into intellectualism. What
    ideas abstracted from a practical context can do and have done is excite
    and inflame the non-aligned personality until it is reeling with
    self-importance. We have seen much of this in the last 25 years. The
    Internet is encouraging a lot of virtual Masters. They know of many
    things, but they cannot use their knowledge to bring about a result on
    the material plane because they have no positive relationship with
    materiality, and have no personal power as a consequence.



    Knowing about the consciousness of spirit does not offer any of us
    protection against anything, but it may inspire us to live our lives
    differently, provided we still have that option. Then we may know it
    indeed, and that would change everything.

    Hello Floyd
    Therefore you see dimensions as consciousness instaed of solid matter?
    lol

    Hi Dom
    I dont see anything as solid matter lol
    hello floyd
    bottom line,,,do you see ascesion as raising of consciousness or do you see it as both raisng consciousness and change of body?
    lol
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Floyd on Wed May 19, 2010 7:41 am

    I dont generally buy into this theory of Ascension as on a personality or egoic level it reeks of self importance and there is a danger of elitist tendencies.
    I view changes from a planetary perspective and not from the individuals. If events transpire that see the planet shifts its axis and as a result there is a dimensional split then whatever dimension a body resides on, its consciousness would be relevant to that. You couldnt have two bodies existing simultaneously on different dimensions. Perhaps your consciousness could have some other perceptions of other dimensions but not the body.
    It maybe that the consciousness of some people at the moment are bursting out of their 3D habitats experiencing facets of 4D and 5D and so on. Ive heard this referred to as the ghastly term ascension sickness aswell as DNA acceleration...im sure there are other such terms.
    If the planet raises its frequency to a higher dimension then only enties that can resonate within that frequency could subsist on it. It would be a symbiotic process between the new planet and its new inhabitants but on the terms of the planet.
    Whether or not a human individual would be able to depart 3D at the time of a dimension split would depend on the condition of their consciousness leading up to and at the time of the splitting of the dimensions.
    So to answer your question, there would first be a change in the consciousness of the individual that would resonate with the planetary consciousness at the time of a dimensional split allowing that individual to reside on the new planet in a different dimension. The individual would no longer exist on the old dimension and would lose many facets of consciousness associated with such a state of being.
    Therefore the body is just a vehicle for the consciousness but both are able to change to allow residence on a new planet in a different dimension.

    Im not saying thats right but thats just how In see it.
    now im going for a coffee as mu brain hurts!!!
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Thu May 20, 2010 3:31 am

    Floyd wrote:I dont generally buy into this theory of Ascension as on a personality or egoic level it reeks of self importance and there is a danger of elitist tendencies.
    I view changes from a planetary perspective and not from the individuals. If events transpire that see the planet shifts its axis and as a result there is a dimensional split then whatever dimension a body resides on, its consciousness would be relevant to that. You couldnt have two bodies existing simultaneously on different dimensions. Perhaps your consciousness could have some other perceptions of other dimensions but not the body.
    It maybe that the consciousness of some people at the moment are bursting out of their 3D habitats experiencing facets of 4D and 5D and so on. Ive heard this referred to as the ghastly term ascension sickness aswell as DNA acceleration...im sure there are other such terms.
    If the planet raises its frequency to a higher dimension then only enties that can resonate within that frequency could subsist on it. It would be a symbiotic process between the new planet and its new inhabitants but on the terms of the planet.
    Whether or not a human individual would be able to depart 3D at the time of a dimension split would depend on the condition of their consciousness leading up to and at the time of the splitting of the dimensions.
    So to answer your question, there would first be a change in the consciousness of the individual that would resonate with the planetary consciousness at the time of a dimensional split allowing that individual to reside on the new planet in a different dimension. The individual would no longer exist on the old dimension and would lose many facets of consciousness associated with such a state of being.
    Therefore the body is just a vehicle for the consciousness but both are able to change to allow residence on a new planet in a different dimension.

    Im not saying thats right but thats just how In see it.
    now im going for a coffee as mu brain hurts!!!

    Evolution ,transmution will be a change in our bodies brain etc.....the dominant aspect of ourselves will be spirititual...domininant aspect of the chord...then brain body etc...we will have a new body on a new Earth...these are the harmonics of the body and earth we have now.......we have to stay on the earth to teach as many as we can
    lol


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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  ClearWater on Thu May 20, 2010 4:20 am

    Hi Dominic,

    Thank you for posing the question. I've never really thought about this subject before, but this is what came to my mind when reading your post...

    There are many, many colors. We take these numerous different colors and put them into smaller groups (maroon and burgundy would both be considered red, for example). I won't try to go into why we tend to simplify things, but it's something we do constantly in all areas of our lives.

    I think that sometimes in our attempts to simplify things, we actually make them more complex...
    Perhaps we began by using a different word for each different color, but there were too many different colors to remember so we started to call many similar looking colors by the same name. Makes sense for various reasons.... The problem is that we now have to try to come up with some criteria to separate the colors (what makes one color red, while another is pink, for example? Or are red and pink actually the same, and if they're the same, do we call them red or do we call them pink, or do we come up with an entirely new name for them?) So, as I said, in our attempt to make things simpler, we actually make them more complex.

    What makes one color different from another? The obvious answer is...they look different.
    What causes one color to look different from another? The eye/brain perceives differences according to vibration.
    So then, what is color? It is vibration (simple, right?)

    What point am I trying to make? We tend to TRY to simplify things by separating them, thinking that if we can isolate something we can better understand it. The result is that we actually make things more complex and more difficult to understand. The way to simplify things so that we can better understand them is to unite them. My brief discussion about color clearly illustrates this.

    Dimensions and colors are one. They are vibration.
    I cannot see infrared or ultraviolet. Does this mean they don't exist?
    I can see red and violet. Does this mean they exist?
    Does something exists according to our ability to perceive it?
    What is 'existence'? Is it a relative term, as opposed to something which doesn't exist? Wouldn't that mean that 'non existence' exists...



    My personal assessment... One vibration is not separate from another.
    There are not separate vibrations. There is vibration.
    In attempting to separate vibration into vibrations (Why would we do that? But we do...), everything becomes nonsensical...and the more we try to make sense of it by dissecting it, the less sense it makes.
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  dominic777 on Thu May 20, 2010 4:30 am

    ClearWater wrote:Hi Dominic,

    Thank you for posing the question. I've never really thought about this subject before, but this is what came to my mind when reading your post...

    There are many, many colors. We take these numerous different colors and put them into smaller groups (maroon and burgundy would both be considered red, for example). I won't try to go into why we tend to simplify things, but it's something we do constantly in all areas of our lives.

    I think that sometimes in our attempts to simplify things, we actually make them more complex...
    Perhaps we began by using a different word for each different color, but there were too many different colors to remember so we started to call many similar looking colors by the same name. Makes sense for various reasons.... The problem is that we now have to try to come up with some criteria to separate the colors (what makes one color red, while another is pink, for example? Or are red and pink actually the same, and if they're the same, do we call them red or do we call them pink, or do we come up with an entirely new name for them?) So, as I said, in our attempt to make things simpler, we actually make them more complex.

    What makes one color different from another? The obvious answer is...they look different.
    What causes one color to look different from another? The eye/brain perceives differences according to vibration.
    So then, what is color? It is vibration (simple, right?)

    What point am I trying to make? We tend to TRY to simplify things by separating them, thinking that if we can isolate something we can better understand it. The result is that we actually make things more complex and more difficult to understand. The way to simplify things so that we can better understand them is to unite them. My brief discussion about color clearly illustrates this.

    Dimensions and colors are one. They are vibration.
    I cannot see infrared or ultraviolet. Does this mean they don't exist?
    I can see red and violet. Does this mean they exist?
    Does something exists according to our ability to perceive it?
    What is 'existence'? Is it a relative term, as opposed to something which doesn't exist? Wouldn't that mean that 'non existence' exists...



    My personal assessment... One vibration is not separate from another.
    There are not separate vibrations. There is vibration.
    In attempting to separate vibration into vibrations (Why would we do that? But we do...), everything becomes nonsensical...and the more we try to make sense of it by dissecting it, the less sense it makes.

    hello clearwater ,i totally agree with you

    take the colur blue, would be one frquency, another shade of blue would be another frequency and so on...therefore our bodies will transmute in the same way as we go into higher frequencies
    lol
    dom


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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Floyd on Thu May 20, 2010 6:32 am

    What you are saying than is that are is only one vibration presumably with different aspects. Are you also saying that a vibration is the same is a dimension or that dimensions are the same as vibrations, that is to say there is only one dimension.
    From what I can understand then you are saying there is only one vibration/dimension with composite sub dimensions/vibrations that fascilitate the existence of seemingly different dimensions and or vibrations and those things within then when perceived from the point of view a thing that is not the vibration/dimension in itself or the creator of.
    How ever. As a human being I would say it is impossible to know how many vibrations or dimensions there are as our imprisoned consciousness would not have the experience of such one vibrational,one dimensional existence. If there was only one vibration then why cant we do what we want, teleport where we like etc. Why do we put so much import on 4D and 5D if there is ony SuperD
    It may be the case there is only one meta vibration or one meta dimension but as humans we will never understand it or experience it. As beings existing within the seeming confines of a particular dimension, we have to work with what we have got. Maybe there is room for promotion though and perhaps in some timeless eon in a non locational sate of being we will be able to experience the blissful state of one vibrationality.
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    Post  dominic777 on Thu May 20, 2010 11:33 am

    Floyd wrote:What you are saying than is that are is only one vibration presumably with different aspects. Are you also saying that a vibration is the same is a dimension or that dimensions are the same as vibrations, that is to say there is only one dimension.
    From what I can understand then you are saying there is only one vibration/dimension with composite sub dimensions/vibrations that fascilitate the existence of seemingly different dimensions and or vibrations and those things within then when perceived from the point of view a thing that is not the vibration/dimension in itself or the creator of.
    How ever. As a human being I would say it is impossible to know how many vibrations or dimensions there are as our imprisoned consciousness would not have the experience of such one vibrational,one dimensional existence. If there was only one vibration then why cant we do what we want, teleport where we like etc. Why do we put so much import on 4D and 5D if there is ony SuperD
    It may be the case there is only one meta vibration or one meta dimension but as humans we will never understand it or experience it. As beings existing within the seeming confines of a particular dimension, we have to work with what we have got. Maybe there is room for promotion though and perhaps in some timeless eon in a non locational sate of being we will be able to experience the blissful state of one vibrationality.

    My brain hurts ,i do not know about yours..here goes..everything at the atomic level vibrates, and each indivdual thing has it s own frequency.....sympathetic resonance is getting the same frequency as an item...this is how they used to lift massive stones etc.. pyramids etc..in our case we are trying to get sympathetic resonance with E.T. by conquering our EGO and Fear, therefore then we can transend and transmute ...to a new earth with a new body... and a higher level of consciousness...AMEN
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  ClearWater on Thu May 20, 2010 12:46 pm

    Yes, I think you've got what I'm saying.
    It is common to imagine that I am within my body...that what I am is contained within my body. And then, everything I believe comes from this perspective. I appear to be something separate from everything else 'out there'. There appear to be bazillions of different things 'out there'.
    Consider this perspective...I AM that in which all bodies are born and die. I AM the space within which everything begins and ends. All colors, bodies, dimensions, universes, etc. arise and fall within ME. I AM the whole. I can restrict myself to any part within the whole that I am, and I will have an experience of being restricted and apart. Having an experience of restriction and separation does not mean that I AM restricted and separate. I am the space within which restriction and freedom, and separation and unity take place.
    There are many 'masters' who have known this, and have chosen to do things such as teleport, bilocate, and do any number of things a restricted mind prevents one from doing.
    We are all one. All is one.
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    Post  Floyd on Thu May 20, 2010 1:21 pm

    Hi.
    When you refer to I AM what does that pertain to? A soul, a consciousness, a body or some kind of kind or supreme experiencier. Is the all encomposing experiencer a seperate being from the being that partakes in limited physicality. Is it though the peep hole of expanded consciousness that the physical being realises HE IS or is he actually part of SOMETHING ELSE? that is to say he/her is not the experienced but the experiencer
    I was wondering guys if WE ARE then what is the point of bothering about dimensions and ascension. Surley we could die happy on a devestated 3D planet in the knowlege that there is only oneness. Why do so called enlightened people, those who think they are ready for ascending, hanker for new dimensions if it is the case we can find the truth in this one. Or can we. What unknown truths does 5D consciousness hold. I would say many that would blow our tiny human minds into thousands of splintering pieces scattering our tiny egos over billions of light years of endless nothingness.
    Amen
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    Post  Nebula on Thu May 20, 2010 8:00 pm

    Yes, Dimensions do exit. At this moment, i warped into my reggae dimension :) come over!
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  ClearWater on Fri May 21, 2010 3:05 am

    Floyd wrote:Hi.
    When you refer to I AM what does that pertain to? A soul, a consciousness, a body or some kind of kind or supreme experiencier. Is the all encomposing experiencer a seperate being from the being that partakes in limited physicality. Is it though the peep hole of expanded consciousness that the physical being realises HE IS or is he actually part of SOMETHING ELSE? that is to say he/her is not the experienced but the experiencer.
    First off, I have very little knowledge about dimensions, and anything I write is just what pops into mind as I read posts...take it for what it's worth...

    When I refer to I AM, I am referring to the core and (perhaps paradoxically) the totality of beingness. This would include everything, and would not be restricted to anything in particular. I AM ALL. I am not restricted to being either the experiencer or the experienced. I am neither in particular. I am both simultaneously. I AM the experiencer. I AM the experienced. The experiencer and the experienced are inseparable. They are one.

    Floyd wrote:I was wondering guys if WE ARE then what is the point of bothering about dimensions and ascension. Surley we could die happy on a devestated 3D planet in the knowlege that there is only oneness.
    I generally do not bother with dimensions or ascension, and I will 'die happy' irregardless of ANY circumstances. I suppose this is a result of a certain 'knowing', but when I use the word 'knowing', I am not necessarily referring to intellectual understanding.

    Floyd wrote:Why do so called enlightened people, those who think they are ready for ascending, hanker for new dimensions if it is the case we can find the truth in this one. Or can we. What unknown truths does 5D consciousness hold. I would say many that would blow our tiny human minds into thousands of splintering pieces scattering our tiny egos over billions of light years of endless nothingness.
    Amen
    Perhaps the 'so called' enlightened people are those who are realizing that they are more than their bodies, minds, and experiences. Perhaps a person who is realizing this begins to search for what that 'more' actually is. Perhaps, also, these people would tend to search for this 'more' by using techniques that are familiar to them. Perhaps these techniques are very effective for 'searching', but are not very effective for 'finding' that which is being searched for.
    Because...
    These techniques assume that this 'more' is something separate which can be found 'out there'. It is not something separate. It cannot be found 'out there'. I AM that 'more'. YOU ARE that more. You and I are one.

    Love and Gratitude!
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Floyd on Fri May 21, 2010 5:13 am

    ClearWater wrote:
    Floyd wrote:Hi.
    When you refer to I AM what does that pertain to? A soul, a consciousness, a body or some kind of kind or supreme experiencier. Is the all encomposing experiencer a seperate being from the being that partakes in limited physicality. Is it though the peep hole of expanded consciousness that the physical being realises HE IS or is he actually part of SOMETHING ELSE? that is to say he/her is not the experienced but the experiencer.
    First off, I have very little knowledge about dimensions, and anything I write is just what pops into mind as I read posts...take it for what it's worth...

    When I refer to I AM, I am referring to the core and (perhaps paradoxically) the totality of beingness. This would include everything, and would not be restricted to anything in particular. I AM ALL. I am not restricted to being either the experiencer or the experienced. I am neither in particular. I am both simultaneously. I AM the experiencer. I AM the experienced. The experiencer and the experienced are inseparable. They are one.

    Floyd wrote:I was wondering guys if WE ARE then what is the point of bothering about dimensions and ascension. Surley we could die happy on a devestated 3D planet in the knowlege that there is only oneness.
    I generally do not bother with dimensions or ascension, and I will 'die happy' irregardless of ANY circumstances. I suppose this is a result of a certain 'knowing', but when I use the word 'knowing', I am not necessarily referring to intellectual understanding.

    Floyd wrote:Why do so called enlightened people, those who think they are ready for ascending, hanker for new dimensions if it is the case we can find the truth in this one. Or can we. What unknown truths does 5D consciousness hold. I would say many that would blow our tiny human minds into thousands of splintering pieces scattering our tiny egos over billions of light years of endless nothingness.
    Amen
    Perhaps the 'so called' enlightened people are those who are realizing that they are more than their bodies, minds, and experiences. Perhaps a person who is realizing this begins to search for what that 'more' actually is. Perhaps, also, these people would tend to search for this 'more' by using techniques that are familiar to them. Perhaps these techniques are very effective for 'searching', but are not very effective for 'finding' that which is being searched for.
    Because...
    These techniques assume that this 'more' is something separate which can be found 'out there'. It is not something separate. It cannot be found 'out there'. I AM that 'more'. YOU ARE that more. You and I are one.

    Love and Gratitude!
    Hi.
    Yes, some good insights above.
    I would say that the experience is subjective and the experienced is objective. If two people have different experiences of a thing then the universality of the experience is invalid.
    For example if two people listen to a death metal record, one, profoundly enjoying the experience, claiming that such audio delights was the highest experience attainable in the form of music, could, to a certain extent, say that there was a connection between the experience of the music and the music itself.
    The other unfortunate chap meanwhile was looking for the nearest river to throw himself into as the music was not to his taste.
    He is also connected to the music, the experienced but in a reactive way that repudiates the truth seen in the experience as claimed by the hairy death metal fan.
    Therefore there can be no universal satement implying that the experienced and the experiencer are the same thing. The medium of the music may be universal but there is no universality in its experience.
    For something to be universally true there has to be some consensus in the realm of experience.
    Secondly there could be no experience without the experienced and vice versa. One requires the other to substantiate itself.
    It would seem then that from the world in which we live, there are many experienced things and many experiences of them. There can however be only one truth surrounded by a myriad of falsehoods. One persons truth is not anothers, nor his experience. But it could be possible to gain a glimpse of it
    Perhaps then, truth is all that is and it may lie beyond the experienced or the experiencer.
    Some people think they know it. The new age movement is riddled with charlatans, false gurus and conmen and women, who's philosophies are vague and who's prices are high. Planes, aliens and dimensions and timelines, atlantis. Perhaps you are right Clearwater it doesnt really matter if you believe in them or not. What difference would it make if I knew everything about shifts, dimensions and ascension if I didnt lead my life in conscious and clear way.
    Knowlege is useful but does it lead us to the truth?
    as the Buddha said 'All opinions are worthless'
    Think ill go for a walk
    Peace
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  hippihillbobbi on Fri May 21, 2010 8:00 am

    Floyd et al --

    Good discussion, you-uns!

    "Perhaps you are right Clearwater it doesnt really matter if you believe
    in them or not. What difference would it make if I knew everything about
    shifts, dimensions and ascension if I didnt lead my life in conscious
    and clear way.
    Knowlege is useful but does it lead us to the truth?
    as
    the Buddha said 'All opinions are worthless' "


    Or .... to paraphrase Paul .... "what profiteth a person if (s)he knows everything but does not love?!"

    Love is the Key.

    hhb/jbt
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    Re: Do you believe dimensions exist?

    Post  Mercuriel on Fri May 21, 2010 8:12 am

    When you refer to I AM what does that pertain to? A soul, a consciousness, a body or some kind of kind or supreme experiencier. Is the all encomposing experiencer a seperate being from the being that partakes in limited physicality. Is it though the peep hole of expanded consciousness that the physical being realises HE IS or is he actually part of SOMETHING ELSE? that is to say he/her is not the experienced but the experiencer.

    Let Me say it this way simply. Do We Multitask ? Of course right ?

    Think of the First Experiencer then as the Ultimate or Supreme Multitasker and in the same way that the Finger is Aware of It's Parts and Cells - The Experiencer is aware of the Finger and so on all the way down Co-ordinately to the Cellular Level...

    We are in essence - Cells in the Body of the First Experiencer and Divine Will is where that Body is going...

    We do the Will as in essence at a larger level it is Our own - Or We eventually choose Self-Annihilation in Separation from Ourselves at the Overbody Level of the Prime Creator. In much the same way as an Immune System - The Creation(s) does / do what It needs as the Body so as to create that Expansion / Expression which is driven by the Will of First Experiencer to simply be All That Is...


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