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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  ceridwen on Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:29 am

    Pretty much so, not even a single moon lol!

    August is blue moon though, wich means we get to have two full moons

    Yeap, two moons for the fools Annoyed it makes you wonder which kind of dimwit is putting the intel out Lmfao
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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  Threecaster on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:07 pm

    Floyd wrote:What a suprise! No moon sized object.

    Oohh I see they changed the date to include September.

    Idiots.
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    New Object!!! headed for Earth

    Post  Floyd on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:21 am

    News Just In:! New Moon sized Object and piloted craft discovered!!

    Piloted craft found in Hitler's underpants as his remains are found next to a spaceship that crash landed on a 'moon sized object' twenty years ago that was due to enter Near Earth Orbit Aug 17, just before tea, but now may turn up any time in September.

    More details on the Project Doomalot Blog.

    An insider has told us the authenticity of the underpants has been confirmed by scholars as they were bought in Hitler's favourite department store H&M (Himmler and Mengele's)in 1931 on a buy one get one free basis.

    The piloted craft found in the underpants on the moon sized object was thought to be Richard Hoaxland's 'piloted comet' that changed course onto another time line at the last minute and arrived in the former fascist leaders underpants rather than Earth.

    Why this happened no one is quite sure.
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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  Raven on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:07 am

    Floyd wrote:
    Raven wrote:

    It never ends for the 'NABS believers' to become ever more 'bedazzled' by the 'ptb disinformers and fear mongers'!

    Now where are the 'resumes' of those 'ground breaking' whistleblowers, 'reformer scientists' and pioneers for a 'New World Order'?
    Remote Viewing par excellence!



    As soon as I saw this thread yesterday the first thing I noticed was that there was no name attributed. An instant giveaway that it was a hoax.

    More unmitigated crap along with Elenin, moon sized objects, piloted crafts, YU55 nonsense and least of all the Niburu hoax.


    Please dispose of in the Fear: The Egregore of Doom thread Arrow

    As for Brown and his remote viewing, he was caught up in a fraud over an alleged photo of a 'craft' trailing Hale Bop

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/heavens_gate/4.html

    Dr. Courtney Brown, claiming to be adept at "remote viewing," or seeing things that occurred far away, told radio host Art Bell that he was in possession of photographs of the comet. They clearly showed an object in its wake and this object had all the appearances of an alien craft. In fact, Brown said he'd "looked" inside and had seen alien life forms. This claim drew many expectant listeners who wanted to see the photos, including members of Heaven's Gate.



    Sensing the arrival of the most significant event in their short history, the crew-minded group went together to watch Star Wars. They also attended a UFO conference, bought insurance against alien abductions and impregnation, and purchased a high-powered telescope. They were looking for the "companion" to Hale-Bopp, they told the store manager, which they described as a small shape near the comet. That was their mothership. When they failed to find it, they returned the telescope. The manager found their ideas puzzling.

    Then in January 1997, the promised photographs were finally posted on Art Bell's Web site and then were quickly exposed as a hoax. Yet the Heaven's Gate crew was not deterred. On their Web site they wrote, "Whether Hale-Bopp has a companion or not is irrelevant from our perspective." Its approach alone was significant as "the marker weve been waiting for." Visible or not, the spaceship would be there ready to take them home. They were about to "graduate" from human to more-than-human. Those who were reading the message might even want to get their own "boarding passes."



    Carol wrote:
    Does anyone know anything about this?




    Huge Asteroid Will Hit Antarctica in Fall of 2012
    Read article: http://reinep.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/huge-asteroid-will-hit-antarctica-in-2012/
    University of British Columbia Professor published an on-line article that projected an 800m asteroid would hit Antarctica in the fall of 2012.
    The article hypothesized a 94% probability that the asteroid would impact on the Filchner-Ronne ice shelf and cause 2/3 of ice on Antarctica to crumble into sea. The article surmised the total collapse of all Antarctic ice within 2-4 months after impact. “A deep enough impact would crack the ice shelf like a window and total structural collapse would be inevitable, a few months at the outside.” If the ice on Antarctica was added the the world’s ocean it would raise them by 70 meters.

    University of British Columbia Professor published an on-line article that projected an 800m asteroid would hit Antarctica in the fall of 2012. His article was on the www.phas.ubc.ca website for 2 days before it abruptly disappeared. The initial data was gathered by The Balloon-borne Large-Aperture Sub millimeter Telescope (BLAST) at McMurdo Station, Antarctica. The theorized asteroid was then tracked by Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope on Mauna Kea, which (with the Adaptive Optics Bonnette) supplies probably the sharpest images currently obtainable from the ground. One week after this mysterious article disappeared, “Canadian and American astronauts say the world needs to prepare for the big one — the asteroid impact that could one day devastate the Earth.Veteran Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield is president of the Association of Space Explorers, which has prepared a detailed report on the asteroid threat. The Canadian Space Agency intends to launch NEOSSat next March to look for asteroids that may be hiding near the sun. The $15-million suitcase-sized satellite will circle about 700 kilometers above the Earth. A Canadian Space Agency official says NEOSSat is expected to detect hundreds of new asteroids during its first year of operation. It will also monitor the heavy traffic of satellites now orbiting the Earth to try to prevent possible collisions.”

    Could this be what might cause the Displacement Wave Clif High Talks About? Its strange because this article disapeared in 2 days after it was posted. Hopefully this will not happen, we need lots of research on this. This also ties into Courtney Browns RV research regarding that region by early 2013

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46708-GLOBAL-COASTAL-EVENT-Courtney-Brown-Farsight-Project-2013-Timeline-Prediction

    Courtney Brown - Hour 1 - Remote Viewing & Earth Changes Data For 2013
    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/07/RIR-120719.php

    Carol wrote:A meteor strike on the planet
    http://www.viewzone.com/rv2013.html


    Remote Viewing 2012-2013: not good news...

    In 2008 a team of 8 military grade remote viewers were asked to view several targets with the understanding that the actual target assignments for each session would be given to them in the future. The sessions were given a number (S1, S2...) and the notes and drawings from each session were collected, scanned, encrypted and subsequently downloaded by tens of thousands of internet users for some future date, when the encryption codes would be published. This guaranteed that the results of the remote viewing sessions could not be changed.

    There was a total of 113 sessions. Once the sessions had been recorded, the targets were selected in a random manner, pairing each session with one of three possible target conditions in 9 different locations around the globe:

    1. Vaitupu, Tuvalu
    2. Fort Jesus, Mombasa Kenya
    3. Sydney Opera House, Sydney, Australia
    4. Mount Kilimanjaro, Tanzania
    5. United States Congress Building, Washington, D.C.
    6. Malé International Airport, Malé, Maldives
    7. KITV Building, Honolulu, Hawaii
    8. The Vehicle Assembly Building at Launch Complex 39, Kennedy Space Center, Merritt Island, Florida
    9. Key West, Florida

    The three conditions were:

    1. The date of June 2008

    A. "June 1, 2013, 12 noon target local time, following the timeline in which the leadership of the mainstream global scientific establishment continues to ignore or deny (1) the reality of the remote-viewing phenomenon, and (2) the existence of life not originating from Earth."

    B. "June 1, 2013, 12 noon target local time, following the timeline in which by the end of 2009 leaders of the mainstream global scientific establishment publicly recognize (1) the reality of the remote-viewing phenomenon, and (2) the existence of life not originating from Earth."

    Each remote viewing session that had already been recorded was associated with a specific geographic location and condition. The results, originally thought to show changes in sea levels and climate, were dramatic.

    Those sessions which were linked to assignments in 2008 showed the locations as they were. An example is seen below. This session was linked to the Sydney Opera House (at sea level).

    A summary of what was seen by these remote viewers looks like this:

    In general, these remote-viewing data suggest the following types of physical changes across many of the above geographical locations by mid-2013:

    1. Impacts from what appear to be large meteors leading to tsunamis and possible volcanism
    2. Extensive and forceful flooding of coastal areas
    3. Excessive solar radiation
    4. Storms and other severe weather

    In terms of the effects of these changes on humans, these data also suggest:

    1. Massive self-organized relocation from coastal areas (refugees)
    2. The breakdown of rescue or other notable governmental functioning
    3. The breakdown of the food supply system
    4. The breakdown of the vehicular transport system
    5. Extensive loss of buildings near coasts

    A video with the specifics and details of the remote viewing project can be seen here:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pk8udsan2o&feature=player_embedded

    Speculation that governments are aware of these things...

    According to the Farsight Institute, there are certain events that have happened around the world that imply knowledge of this, or some other similar catastrophe in our immediate future.

    1. The U.S. Space Shuttle launched its last mission in mid-2011. At that time, NASA entirely abanded its government-funded manned spaceflight program. Given the investment that the U.S. has made in launching humans into space since the 1960s, this is odd, especially since private efforts to launch humans into space are years away, and currently unproven. It is as if the government does not anticipate being able to launch humans into space in the near future for reasons not currently stated.
    2. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault was sealed in 2011. This seed bank will allow the world to restart agriculture given a global catastrophe. The United Nations formally inspected the facility, which might seem odd for a Norwegian project. The timing of this project seems like a strange coincidence.

    3. U.S. and global debt. It is as if various governments are not expecting to have to pay back their debts, perhaps anticipating a global economic reset due to reasons not currently stated.

    4. The devaluing of the U.S. dollar seems to be a trend that will stay. Moody, Standard and Poor, and Fitch have announced that they may be devaluing the rating of U.S. Treasury bonds (see NY Times article, 15 March 2010, as well as the editorial on 20 March 2010), and there have been discussions within the United Nations of the International Monetary Fund phasing out its dependency on the U.S. dollar. The governments seem to be acting as if the U.S. dollar will be replaced as the global currency.

    5. Digging, digging is everywhere. The U.S. has no nuclear enemies, yet it is digging huge underground facilities in inhospitable regions difficult for the masses to reach. Why? On the other hand, the Chinese tend to think collectively, and China is digging extraordinary subway complexes under most of its major cities in a crash program that seems odd in terms of timing and scope. See, for example, the NY Times article by Keith Bradsher, 27 March 2009. Subways are, of course, conveniently located underground tunnels, and such tunnels could house millions of people in an emergency. Russia announced in 2011 that it is adding 5,000 new nuclear bomb shelters in Moscow, enabling it to protect all of Moscow's residents. The program is to be rushed so that it is finished in 2012. Why? Russia has no nuclear enemies. Russia's new subway systems have also been place deeper than needed so that they can be used as deep emergency shelters. Again, why? Why all these preparations, and why the rush?

    6. NASA is now predicting that the Sun may generate unprecedented solar storms for a lengthy period in 2012-13. We cannot accurately predict Earth's normal weather a week in advance, and it is by no means clear how NASA can do this with respect unprecedented weather on the Sun years in advance. They are saying that we are more dependent on vulnerable computer technology now. But we had similar dependencies in 2001 and 1990 when previous 11-year solar cycles hit. What is different about the current cycle? Some might suggest that NASA is acting as if it has some extra information that is not currently stated. [*]

    Professional remote viewers always caution that their view of future events is only one possibility. Certain key events can alter future timelines, if only we knew what these were and how to manipulate them. The Farsight Institute has discovered proof of something both amazing and hard to understand about time. As Dr. Courtney Bown said,

    "The multiple universe theory is correct or the remote viewing phenomenon works as if it is correct."



    It never ends for the 'NABS believers' to become ever more 'bedazzled' by the 'ptb disinformers and fear mongers'!

    Now where are the 'resumes' of those 'ground breaking' whistleblowers, 'reformer scientists' and pioneers for a 'New World Order'?
    Remote Viewing par excellence!?


    UBC Astronomy Linked to web hoax

    Last updated on Fri, 2012-02-10 13:10

    DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE LATEST WEB HOAX

    An unusual - and totally ridiculous - conspiracy theory has emerged on the Web connecting UBC Physics & Astronomy, the Antarctic ice shelf, and the threat of a devastating asteroid impact.

    Quoting the version of this cosmic urban myth which started circulating yesterday: "University of British Columbia Professor published an on-line article that projected an 800m asteroid would hit Antarctica in the fall of 2012. His article was on the www.phas.ubc.ca website for 2 days before it abruptly disappeared. The initial data was gathered by The Balloon-borne Large-Aperture Sub millimeter Telescope (BLAST) at McMurdo Station, Antarctica. The theorized asteroid was then tracked by Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope on Mauna Kea, which (with the Adaptive Optics Bonnette) supplies probably the sharpest images currently obtainable from the ground."

    The ONLY true parts of this statement are: (1) there is indeed a balloon-borne instrument called BLAST in which UBC is a key partner, and it does collect data over Antarctica; and (2) the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope and its adaptive optics system do obtain superbly sharp astronomical images.

    The rest is ridiculous. BLAST cannot detect asteroids. And no one could extrapolate the orbital path of a newly discovered asteroid to predict two years in advance that it would strike Antarctica (vs. other spots on Earth). No such article ever appeared on the UBC Physics & Astronomy web site.

    This is a story on a par with the annual "Mars as big as the Full Moon" hoax that makes the rounds on the web, except that in this case, it can cause people undue alarm. The only reaction to this story should be amusement, followed by anger that some people are willing to prey on public fears and their interest in astronomy.

    Dr. Jaymie Matthews

    Professional remote viewers always caution that their view of future events is only one possibility. Certain key events can alter future timelines, if only we knew what these were and how to manipulate them. The Farsight Institute has discovered proof of something both amazing and hard to understand about time. As Dr. Courtney Bown said,

    "The multiple universe theory is correct or the remote viewing phenomenon works as if it is correct."

    It can be said from the Thuban perspective:

    "The multiple universe theory is incorrect in the sense of Unified Uni-verses embedded in a plenum of matrix spacetime separatedness, but can be formulated within a context of Quantum-Entangled Separated Uni-verses embedded within a Unified spacetime metric of Encompassment" or the remote viewing phenomenon can only work from a perspective of the logistic wavefunctional observation mode of the Cosmic Twinlogos of this encompassment."

    In other words, there exists an omni-verse comprised of 'many worlds'; where however entangled or 'phase shifted' or 'cored' uni-verses comprise those multi-verses within a cosmic envelope of the Oneness and holographic- and holofractal interconnectedness of all things.

    What many 'remote viewers' and 'channelers' and 'prophets' actually 'observe' is a 'Cosmic Story' or 'symbolic background' of archetypes and images, which are part of the 'Physical Laws of Nature' in that symbolic depiction of a 'Story of the Cosmos' and its inherent Intelligence, told to or DREAMTIMED by ITSELF. So the 'symbol' of Wormwood as a 'human civilisation destroying' comet or celestial 'harbinger of doom' is very valid as a multidimensional expression or character within the 'Dream of the Universe', wishing to reproduce itself in Multiverses to 'graduate' as an Omniverse.
    The 'doom' is however related more to the reconfiguration of the 'story dreamt and told and coauthored' in the dramas surrounding the memetypical physicalising or not from its necessitated metaphysical reality as a physical representation of the archetypes, the semiotiks and the characters, than actual physical calamity and catastrophy in the lower dimensional densified material sense {All so called physicality represents a densified form of 'higher dimensional' light in relative stasis}.
    The Director of the story of all things is the Sourcesink without space and time and matter; the Producer is the Cosmic Twin Logos in the liason between the Uranian Father-Sky-Heaven Abba and the Gaean Mother-Earth-Hell Baab and the Playwright are the 'Cosmic Inheritors', who have come to know and realise their own 'Playing of the Characters' as Actors and Actresses in the 'cosmic scripts'.

    This is the same story of nonphysicalised 'divine generations', where a FatherMother GodGoddess (YinYang) Universe Twin cannot become a GrandMotherFather without first creating its own Family as a SonDaughter Multiverse in twinships or doublets. The 'blessing' of the Cosmic Grandparent then becomes their or its 'self-ascension' from a Twin-Universe via many Multiverses into an Omniverse.
    So how many grandparents are there in the Old AdamEve stock? Would the original GodGoddess not be rather sympathetic, even a little 'cosmically jealous' of something the humans have, but often not treasure as their own cosmic inheritances and legacies?
    Are the ETs then not destined to become BOTH, grandparents and grandchildren with a graduating humanity in betwixt?



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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  ceridwen on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:18 am

    Can't stand it, why is it that people prefer fear than living in joy and harmony. We have a lovely planet, all that we need to do is get our act together individually...

    To much star trek me thinks

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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  Floyd on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:05 am

    RE: latest asteroid fear porn hoax. Closing comments.

    This is a story on a par with the annual "Mars as big as the Full Moon" hoax that makes the rounds on the web, except that in this case, it can cause people undue alarm. The only reaction to this story should be amusement, followed by anger that some people are willing to prey on public fears and their interest in astronomy.

    Dr. Jaymie Matthews

    http://www.phas.ubc.ca/news/ubc-astronomy-linked-web-hoax

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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  ceridwen on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:41 am

    Fear porn can kill you. Fear makes you stressed



    So, it is not the illuminati killing people. It is people having a fear porn addiction

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    Post  mudra on Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:20 am



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    Post  Floyd on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:43 am

    Well, the last day for the moon sized object that was going to cause tsunamis and volcanoes predicted by a 'top level insider' was today. Right.

    Fear not, Project Doomalot has another death dealing disaster lined up to replace its last misinfo 'leak' and this time its a deadly virus Rolling Eyes .

    Next time it will be exploding baked beans set to wipe out half of humanity.

    They say they don't like releasing this info from 'insiders' but they have been doing consistently for years with nothing actually ever happening.

    Ive got some good advice for them. If you dont like doing it dont do it. Its complete and utter crap anyway. Grow a tree or something and do something nice instead of spewing out a never ending trail of fear diarrhea.

    Otherwise you simply add to the egregore of fear and come increasingly under the spell of Dark Forces.

    'mwhhhhaaaaaaa mwhhaaaaaaaaaa' I hear them say.
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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  Floyd on Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:10 am

    Some of the worst kind of fear porn and profiteering from pseudo science based fear has been perpetrated by the likes of the clueless Patrick Geryl and Marshall Masters in relation to the Mayan calander end date. In fact much of the fear based businesses revolve around the 2012 end date. These guys know where the wonga is.

    Much of their nonsense is centered around the pseudo science of planets and CME's effecting geophysical activity which it is proven they most definitely do not.

    I find these two clowns (Geryl and Masters), though there are others, particularly obnoxious and ignorant.

    Geryl doesnt even understand that the inner core of the planet is not magnetic, it is the outer core. Thick as a brick. CME's do not wipe out civilisations

    Fear is big business and these guys now it. They have no credibility whatsoever and are most definitely servants of the fire of the egregore of Doom.

    There are other pesudos and fear prophets but all of them swim in the putrid swamp of fear and epic failness. Masters and Geryl are perfect examples however.

    Alignments do not cause earthquakes
    http://www.2012hoax.org/planetary-alignment


    The ‘earthquakes’ claim appears to be that the gravitational influence of the non-existent alignments will cause earthquakes on Earth. However, the moon is much closer to us than any other astronomical object, so even though it is much smaller and lighter, it completely swamps out any gravitational or tidal effects caused by the Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, or any other object. The Sun does cause tides on the Earth, and when these tides are combined with the moon tides (at the full and new moons) then they are called ’spring tides’. When they are counter to the moon’s tides (at the first and last quarter moons) then they are called ‘neap tides’. The primary influence on the Earth’s tides is the Moon. Other planets are too small and too far away to cause any noticeable effect.


    Patrick Geryl Refuted with mathametical and scientific evidence
    http://www.2012hoax.org/patrick-geryl

    Geryl claims that:

    In the year 2012 the Earth awaits a super catastrophe: its magnetic field will completely reverse in one go. Phenomenal earthquakes and tidal waves will destroy our civilization. Europe and North-America will shift thousands of kilometers northward and end up in a polar clime. Nearly the whole Earth's population will perish in the apocalyptic events.2

    The cause of this massive destruction?

    "A very HIGH sunspot is expected in 2012…when that happens… a huge… an enormous… a gargantic…a gargantuan solar flare will be thrown to the Earth and will destroy our civilization."3

    Dresden Codex

    Geryl and his co-author Ratinck claim that they were able to read and decipher parts of the Dresden Codex4 and that they discovered that the old Egyptians and the ancient Maya were both descendants of Atlantis. If this sounds familiar, it should. It was originally proposed in the 1882 pseudo-archeology book Atlantis: The Antedeluvian World by Ignatius Donnelly5.
    Solar Eruption to Polar Shift

    On this basis, Geryl and Ratinck came to the conclusion that in 2012, between December 19th and 21st, there will be a massive solar eruption that will reach the Earth within a few hours, that the Earth will be surrounded by a cloud of plasma, that the cloud of plasma will have a magnetic field in a different orientation than that of the Earth, and that in response the core of the earth will be deflected by the magnetic field, turning under the crust until it arrives at a different orientation. However, since the rotation of the core and the crust would then be in different directions, massive earthquakes and other phenomena would occur.

    The theory refers to its own research and calculations, and predictions which were claimed to have been made by the Maya and ancient Egyptians. These predictions are not confirmed by Mayanists or Egyptologists.
    "Can't possibly be wrong"

    When asked what would happen if December 2012 were to come and go without the earthquakes and tsunamis of his predictions, Geryl fell silent.
    "I don't really contemplate that possibility," he said. "[My predictions] are so spectacular, they can't possibly be wrong."6

    Problems with Geryl's ideas

    To people trained in astronomy, Patrick Geryl's idea is laughable. Geryl never seems to explain how he is able to predict this "solar flare"7 years ahead of time when astrophysicists are not able to do so, or how he knows that the magnetic field of his imaginary plasma cloud is going to be opposite that of the Earth. When questioned on these topics, he refers people to his books.
    Not massive enough

    In order to exert a force on the earth that would cause part of the earth to flip over, you would have to exert as much energy as it would take to stop it, and start it spinning again in the opposite direction. When we are talking about the core earth we are talking about a huge spinning mass. The core of the earth is divided into two parts, the solid iron core which is about the size of the moon, and the liquid outer core which is the size of mars. The inner core rotates with the earth, only slightly out of sync with the rest of the planet8.

    Geryl claims that a massive CME is going to flip the core over, physically. Let us assume that he means the solid inner core, which is the size of the moon[7]. In order to turn the core as Geryl claims, the CME would have to be more massive than the core.

    This is true for the same reasons that astronauts working on the Hubble had to have their feet bolted to the mechanical arm of the space shuttle. Because if you try to turn a screw in space, you wind up with your body rotating around the screw instead of the screw turning out of the socket. On earth or inside the shuttle you are braced against something. Out in space with nothing to brace against and no gravity to hold you to the ground, you just spin. The CME that Geryl has flipping the core is in the same situation. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Assuming there was no spin at all on the core, and assuming there was a realistic way to couple the two masses, in order to turn the core 180 degrees, the mass of the CME would have to be equal to that of the core, and turn 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    If the CME were less massive than the core, it would have to complete a turn of more than 180 degrees. Something with 1/2 the mass of the core would have to complete a full rotation, etc.

    So, how much mass are we talking about?

    The volume of the moon is 21.9 billion cubic kilometers. That is 21,900,000,000 km3 or 2.19×1010km3. There are 1015 cubic centimeters in 1 cubic kilometer, or 2.19×1025cm3 in the solid inner core. Iron has a density of 7.874 g/cc, so the mass of the core is 2.19×1025×7.874 or 1.724×1026 grams. In contrast, the average mass of a CME is 1.6×1015 grams, or about 1011 ( That is 100,000,000,000 ) times smaller.

    There is no way a CME could be massive enough to turn the core.
    Not magnetic enough

    In addition to the problem with the mass, there is a problem with coupling the two masses together. Geryl claims that the magnetic field of the CME will push the core over by acting on the magnetic field of the core. This claim also fails.

    Let us assume that the solid core is magnetized (it is not, but we'll leave that aside for the moment). Geryl's claim requires a magnetic field strong enough to grab that spinning mass and flip it over. In order to do that the magnetic field strength would have to be much more intense than the magnetic field of the earth.

    The strength of a magnetic field obeys the inverse square law. If you double the distance, the field strength falls to one quarter. In order to overwhelm the magnetic field of the earth, the field generated by the CME would have to be stronger than that of the earth. That is actually not that hard to do on a very localized basis. The strength of the field at the Earth's surface ranges from less than 30 microTeslas (0.3 Gauss) in an area including most of South America and South Africa to over 60 microTeslas (0.6 Gauss) around the magnetic poles in northern Canada and south of Australia, and in part of Siberia. Any bar magnet will seize a compass needle, overwhelming the magnetic field of the earth within several inches of the magnet. However, a CME is a large, diffuse object, and its magnetic field would have to be much larger than that of the earth in order to affect the core.

    Even if you took a second earth and (ignoring gravity) brought it next to our earth and tried to flip it magnetically, you wouldn't be able to do it. If you took a second earth with a magnetic field hundreds of times stronger than ours, you still wouldn't be able to do it. You would need a much more massive object with a much stronger magnetic field to overcome the weakness of the magnetic interaction, and the stability of the earth given to it by its spin.

    So in order to flip the core, the CME would have to be intensely magnetic and many times more massive than the earth, let alone the earth's core. A CME does not come anywhere near being massive enough or magnetic enough to cause this effect.
    Nowhere to hide

    Let us assume that we are wrong in our analysis above. Geryl is proposing that his group be given 1 billion US$ in order to build a survival center in the Sierra Nevada mountains of Spain. The problem is, if he were right, there would be nowhere to hide.

    Conclusion

    Patrick Geryl's ideas are not scientific theories. He indulges in pseudo-science (specifically pseudo-astronomy and pseudo-archeology) and his conclusions are incorrect. We show that his claimed mechanism for physically flipping the earth's core is impossible, and that his claimed results (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are incorrect.




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    Post  Floyd on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:07 am


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    Post  Floyd on Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:33 am


    "When operating from a place of fear and worry about the future people cannot function."

    Who is issuing the fear she asks?

    "The people with money who want to keep it".

    They literally invent stories to control by fear. (now there are plenty of those I can think of in a few seconds lol)

    Interesting Character who makes lot of totally valid points.

    Chicken Little springs to mind she says.
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    magamud

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    Re: Fear. The Egregore of Doom.

    Post  magamud on Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:41 pm

    lol!

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