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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:14 pm

    The claims of traditional UK fascists who say the EDL have been hijacked by Randian Zionists like Pamela Geller.


    “The vast majority of ordinary nationalists, together with serious students of modern politics, by contrast, will be as amazed as I was when I first began to piece together this jigsaw. It proves beyond doubt that – while the EDL’s grass-roots members are motivated only by concern about the creeping Islamification of Britain - its founders and financiers have a very different agenda and direct links not only to far-right Zionist terrorists, but also to the war profiteers of the American military-industrial complex."

    We urge all our readers to forward this article on to anyone they know with any involvement with the EDL, and to post links to it as widely as possible on the Internet. The MSM have failed to reveal this news, so we need your help to break through the media blackout and help defeat the attempt to herd us all into a stampede for war.

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    Post  Floyd on Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:26 pm


    This is a full document written by the head of the British National Party on how the EDL and the old school neo nazi/Nationalist groups have been infiltrated by Randian Zionists like Pamela Geller to spread hatred against muslims. Looks like the darkies and the pakis are ok for a while
    Cool

    I assure its an interesting read.

    http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/files/what_lies_behind_the_english_defence_league_0.pdf
    "Neo-Cons, Ultra-Zionists and Their Useful Idiots"
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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:57 pm

    If you are Interested in Zionist manipulation


    Then read the above article

    I would say there is much in there that is not appealing too. But he is certainly correct about Geller and the Randian inspired Zionists.

    The basic story is. America has been shafted and so has the rest of the world.
    But then we all knew that anyway unless some in our number are closet Zionists
    who uphold the 'Austrian School' of economic philosophy. AKA screw everyone.

    I would like to think this Zionist/ Libertarian greed driven horror bag of an existence will soon come to end.



    And the world will be a better place. For those who have not the right DNA to ascend that is. Perhaps they are going to a better place.
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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:28 pm

    Now we can understand how zionist and fundamentalist extreme right Christians are cosying up and patting each other other on the bottom cheeks.

    Pamela Geller Who runs the Zionist Atlas Shrugs website, not only delivers articles to the awful ultra right conservative Christian worldnetdaily but her controllers are also funding former Neo Nazi and hooligan groups in the UK (and in Europe no doubt). Infiltrating them. But she has been latched on too. Not by the working class islamaphopbe however as they are a little dull.
    You see in the old days it would just be against the blacks and the Indians but now its just against the Islamists as the EDL have been bought out and infiltrated.

    So why should this be alarming?

    The same powers (ie zionists, Ultra right Christian and neo con Libertarians) behind the infiltration of neo nazi racist groups(fermenting islamaphobia) are also the same people who have infiltrated conspiracy forums.

    This is where you get all your ridiculous stories from, ie piloted crafts and Niburu to name but a couple.

    The Austrian group (yes google it) and other right wing Libertarian anarchists are the scum suckers who are destroying our planet.

    These are the well funded numpties who deny climate change (and make it cool via their agents that climate change is a lie) because all they care about is oil, gas, greed, war, wealth and the Staus Quo. The Elite.

    These are the clowns who have harp on about heliocentric bullshit because they dont want to loose their profits.

    Quakes etc are internally driven events.. always have been and always will be

    There is nothing that amuses, yet saddens me more to see an awakened soul warrior saying that the sun causes earthquakes etc.

    They (Libertarians and Zionists) are the clowns behind the white supremacist and eugenic pimping alien cults, which they made up for an utopian racially pure America.
    They are the clowns who set up the extremities betwixt Libertarianism and communism
    (when the latter failed they decided to go full hog with the former).

    This is why I dont listen to these morons but there is no doubt they are having a field day on conspiracy forums thanks to their myriad agents and the gullible who would believe them.

    I was watching Sky news and AlJazeera today. The articles were about climate change. Sky (Murdoch owned) was predictably one sided, interviewed a zionist numpty with no alternative point of view). No Surprises. I laughed when AlJazeera interviewed a former Chancellor of the exchequer of the uk (Nigel Lawson- Pig) who denied it. Then they (Al Jazeera) had a bird scientist on who told it straight. They are becoming extinct and they dont know where the XXXX they are flying too any more.

    Game Over.

    Moral of the story?

    What is zionism? For me it is a generic term for corporate fascism. There may well be a tad of Qabbalistic stuff going on here and there but Western groups are using the power too. On both sides.

    There are many Jewish people fighting Zionism as well as non Jewish.

    The important thing to this Earth is destroying fascism with love and to communicate with the nature kingdom to see how we can go forward.

    Talk to your nearest creature today and see what they have to say on the matter. Its not about blame but what we can do.

    We should love them (the destroyers).. they need it
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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:27 pm

    Pamela Geller, the voice that straddles Jewish supremacist values, Libertarianism, American Industrial expansionism, football hooliganism, racism and the far right Christianity of worldnetdaily. What a piece of work and a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the world.

    “If you mean whose side should we be on: Israel or the Arabs? I would certainly say Israel because it’s the advanced, technological, civilized country amidst a group of almost totally primitive savages“–Ayn Rand (1979, The Donahue Show)

    Pamela Geller so adores the “objectivist philosopher” and author Ayn Rand that she gave her blog the name Atlas Shrugs, in homage to Rand’s book “Atlas Shrugged.” Is it then a coincidence that her most recent hate campaign contained the text: “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.”? Geller’s chosen description almost exactly parallels Ayn Rand’s statement regarding the conflict in Palestine, with the exception that she cowardly omitted who she intends by “savage.” As you can see from the quote above Rand described the conflict as one between “civilized” Israelis and the “savage” Palestinians and Arabs.

    There is no doubt in my mind that in light of these facts the AtlasShrugs/SIOA/JihadWatch ad campaign is a racist and Islamophobic one. So far the ad campaign has run in New York and is running on buses in San Francisco. New York’s transit authority (MTA) initially refused to run the ads, Geller sued and won on free speech grounds. San Francisco has admitted that it fears being tied up in litigation and has decided to allow the ads even though they contradict its policy on “political advertisements.”

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/pamela-geller-of-atlasshrugs-bus-ads-inspired-by-ayn-rands-racist-views-of-arabs-and-muslims/



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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Raven on Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:14 am

    Raven wrote:More on New Age Bullshit deceptions, this time obscured as hidden 'conservative' right-wing political infiltration - or not!


    [3:34:47 PM - Tuesday, July 31st, 2012 - 10UCT]

    Thubanis: Some of you may know of the 'factions in politics' like Republican Right Wing and Democratic left wing stereotype in the Land of Uncle Sam or the Tories of the conservatives in the Uk versus the Progressives of the left in the 'house of commons'
    [3:35:49 PM] Thubanis: Surprise , surprise then here in Australia this standoff is between the 'Liberals' of the right and the conservatives versus the 'Labour' Unionists of the left as the progressives
    [3:37:07 PM] Thubanis: Then we find a hilarious situation, when the 'conservative right, meaning in earnest, Big Brother and Control by 'fiscal responsibility' and budget keeping, progress for profit etc, as a Founder of a new 'spiritual movement' for a new world
    [3:37:15 PM] Thubanis: Excerpt:
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    Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

    Yes, Frank O’Collins is commissioned as a Notary of One Heaven according to the Covenant of One Heaven. A one-time member of the Liberal Party of Australia up until 1994/5, O’Collins has never been a member or associate of any radical group or movement. However, O’Collins is no longer a financial member of any other professional body or political association.


    [3:37:58 PM] Thubanis:
    Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

    The founder, Frank O'Collins does not currently have a university degree or equivalent qualification to validate his knowledge and expertise. Instead, O'Collins is a musician, poet, philosopher, software designer and business documents writer by trade having worked in a wide variety of careers including politics, religion, finance and information technology.


    [3:38:09 PM] Thubanis: This is just too funny! Note this: "" business documents writer""
    [3:39:08 PM] Thubanis: Most people in Australia KNOW what the philosophy olf the 'liberals' is and how it is aligned to the tories of Great Britain and the republicans in the USA
    [3:40:14 PM] Thubanis: The 'Notaries of Heaven' under UCADIA.
    [3:41:34 PM] Thubanis: I might mention here, that there is information relating to ACADIA in the templar lineage agendas. I try to find some data on it.


    [3:42:20 PM] Thubanis: Meanwhile this is yet another deception attempt from the powers that wish to be.



    Arcadia has remained a popular artistic subject since antiquity, both in visual arts and literature. Images of beautiful nymphs frolicking in lush forests have been a frequent source of inspiration for painters and sculptors. As a result of the influence of Virgil in medieval European literature (see, for example, Divine Comedy), Arcadia became a symbol of pastoral simplicity. European Renaissance writers (for instance, the Spanish poet Garcilaso de la Vega) often revisited the theme, and the name came to apply to any idyllic location or paradise. Unlike the word "utopia" (named for Thomas More's book, Utopia), "Arcadia" does not carry the connotation of a human civilization; Arcadia is presented as the spontaneous result of life lived naturally, uncorrupted by civilization.



    The 'hints' as to 'Divine Comedy' and 'Utopia' are here illustrated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(utopia)
    [3:42:26 PM] Thubanis:


    Q1. What is UCADIA about?

    Q2. What does the word UCADIA mean?

    Q3. What is the underlying idea underpinning the UCADIAN model?

    Q4. Who founded UCADIA?, when and why?

    Q5. Where was the founder of UCADIA born? when? where does he live now?

    Q6. Has any other group(s)/individual(s) contributed to the creation of UCADIA?

    Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

    Q8. Who helped fund the creation and update of UCADIA?

    Q9. How big is UCADIA?

    Q10. Because of its size, where is the best place to start with UCADIA?

    Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

    Q12. From what sources did all the information in the UCADIAN model come?

    Q13. Where can I find a list of citations of sources for the UCADIAN model?

    Q14. Has any of UCADIA been properly tested and/or checked by “experts”?

    Q15. Does the founder of UCADIA think he is some kind of guru/messiah?

    Q16. Who and what does the founder think he is?

    Q17. What is the end goal/objective of UCADIA?

    Q18. Is UCADIA some kind of religion?

    Q19. Is UCADIA a cult?



    Q1. What is UCADIA about?

    UCADIA represents a spiritual and legal presence, a classification structure of knowledge and rules, a collection of models of law and function of societies and a language of pure symbolic semantic meaning.

    As a spiritual and legal presence, the proof is to be found in the meaning of the word UCADIA; As a classification structure of knowledge and rules, the proof is to be found in the seven (7) patents of UCADIA; As a collection of models of law and function of societies, the proof is to be found in the links to the many political and free society sites; and as a language of pure symbolic semantic meaning, the proof is to be found in the language, both explained in the patents and on this site.



    Q2. What does the word UCADIA mean?

    UCADIA stands for Unique Collective Awareness of DIA. A DIA are pure symbolic representations of meaning, the units of meaning upon which the UCADIAN language of pure symbolic semantic meaning is constructed.

    Unique Collective Awareness (‘UCA”) means the unique collection of all things, a pure concept defined as the ultimate paradox, the absolute. The relationships of UCA are reflected in the first seven (7) patents.



    Q3. What is the underlying idea underpinning the UCADIAN model?

    It’s about an idea that life is a dream of awareness in motion, that because we exist within the dream, we are bound by the rules of the dream, but because we are also awareness, we can determine how the dream unfolds.



    Q4. Who founded UCADIA? When and why?

    Frank O’Collins founded UCADIA back in 1995 after fifteen years of research and reflection. UCADIA was first launched on the Internet in 2001 and the additional websites launched starting in 2005. The reason why UCADIA was created relates to the personal journey of Frank O’Collins as explained on this site. The simplest answer is that the information could no longer be ignored and needed to be presented for all to see.



    Q5. Where was the founder of UCADIA borne? when? where does he live now?

    Frank O'Collins was born was borne at the Mercy Maternity Hospital East Melbourne (formerly known as Emerald Hill), Melbourne Australia March 14th 1965. O'Collins now lives in Sydney Australia.



    Q6. Has any other group(s)/individual(s) contributed to the creation of UCADIA?

    Until 2009, Frank O’Collins has been the sole Architect of UCADIA and all the information on the associated websites. No other group has contributed to its creation and while Frank O’Collins has shared various insights throughout the years with a handful of individuals, he remains its sole Author. In August 2009, through the Covenant of One Heaven a conference of notaries was founded and is now the custodians of ongoing development, refinement, correction and publication of the UCADIAN information.



    Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

    The founder, Frank O'Collins does not currently have a university degree or equivalent qualification to validate his knowledge and expertise. Instead, O'Collins is a musician, poet, philosopher, software designer and business documents writer by trade having worked in a wide variety of careers including politics, religion, finance and information technology.



    Q8. Who helped fund the creation and update of UCADIA?

    Up until 2010, the sole funding for the creation and update of UCADIA has been through the personal investment of its founder Frank O’Collins with no related benefactors, patrons, major donations or any other direct or indirect external financial assistance. From 2010, ongoing funding and development is managed by the notaries of One Heaven and associated societies of UCADIA through coordinated fundraising and asset management programs.



    Q9. How big is UCADIA?

    The UCADIA Model is represented presently by 38,500 web pages over 50 websites including political, spiritual, economic, scientific, information technology, societies, legal, financial and economic sites.



    Q10. Because of its size, where is the best place to start with UCADIA?

    Because of the tens of thousands of pages and over 50 web sites, it is easy to be overwhelmed with UCADIA. That is why it is recommended all readers begin with the e-books the Journey of UCA and the Journey of Self first as a good outline to the intention and core concepts of UCADIA before branching out into the other related web sites and information.



    Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

    Yes, Frank O’Collins is commissioned as a Notary of One Heaven according to the Covenant of One Heaven. A one-time member of the Liberal Party of Australia up until 1994/5, O’Collins has never been a member or associate of any radical group or movement. However, O’Collins is no longer a financial member of any other professional body or political association.



    Q12. From what sources did all the information in the UCADIAN model come?

    The Information contained in the Ucadian model up until 2010 has come from three principle sources: (1) Detailed reading and analysis of thousands of texts and articles on a wide variety of subjects from physics, chemistry, history, sociology, biology, mathematics, politics, economics etc read by Frank O’Collins; (2) Original invention and critical analysis by Frank O’Collins on the thousands of texts and articles written, producing unique perspectives on the material written; and (3) Divine inspiration.



    Q13. Where can I find a list of citations of sources for the UCADIAN model?

    Where a direct quote of information is reproduced in any way within any of the writing on any site of UCADIA, an embedded citation is listed. However, UCADIA does not adhere to the Roman citation method that requires all arguments to be based on the assumption of referenced primary texts in order to be legitimate.



    Q14. Has any of UCADIA been properly tested and/or checked by “experts”?

    Many elements of the UCADIA model have been submitted to academic and industry experts for their review over the years, including the fields of physics, philosophy, chemistry and mathematics. However, in almost all cases due to the lack of adherence to established academic protocols for precisely how new research is recognized as valid, no official validations have yet been given (as at 2009) to any of the information contained in UCADIA.



    Q15. Does the founder of UCADIA think he is some kind of guru/messiah?

    No. Frank O’Collins goes out of his way to demonstrate he does not think, behave or believe he is any kind of guru or messiah. In fact, UCADIA has an entire chapter devoted to explain the illness affecting many—but not the author—who openly or secretly believe themselves to be messiahs, called “messiah Syndrome”.



    Q16. Who and what does the founder think he is?

    The Founder of UCADIA, Frank O’Collins considers himself to be a man, no more or less special than any other man. That is why he lists his final will and testament with details on how he came to write UCADIA so it is clear to all who care to read that he considers the value and usefulness of the ideas of UCADIA fare more important than any personal benefit and awareness.



    Q17. What is the end goal of UCADIA?

    The end goal of UCADIA is that individuals have access to comprehensive, logical, integrated models of society capable of offering a real difference and that these alternatives provide choice when current societies face periods of crisis in coming years concerning depression, climate change and rule of law.



    Q18. Is UCADIA some kind of religion?

    No, UCADIA is not some kind of new religion. Many elements of UCADIA refer to religion and extend certain narratives and belief systems concerning religious history as key models. However, all religious references and information remains firmly in the context of models of society and society function and not as an exclusive separation from existing religious and cultural beliefs.



    Q19. Is UCADIA a cult?

    UCADIA in no way can be called a cult, unless the individual making such accusations wishes to deliberately misrepresent UCADIA for some ulterior motive. By definition, such a slander implies “some kind of unorthodox or spurious religion”—in other words against orthodox religious beliefs and without sound foundation. UCADIA demonstrates through its religious models a fulfilment of orthodox beliefs, not a conflict. Furthermore, UCADIA demonstrates comprehensive scriptural references and frameworks—again contrary to any poorly founded fringe group. Therefore, any claim of UCADIA being a cult must be treated as deliberately false and/or misinformed.


    [3:42:40 PM] Thubanis: http://www.ucadia.com/gen_help.htm


    [3:48:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: TONY - now, THIS IS INTERESTING - 20 calendars - of which, they give 16 of them
    [3:52:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: every one of them - fits into those 144
    [3:52:18 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: numbers
    [3:52:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: except one - the 5th on tz'otz-tun 364 day


    [3:53:00 PM]Thubanis:

    The reference to esotericism, from which I am rather sure O'Collins received his 'inspration' about UCADIA is a famous painting of the rennaisance.

    Btw I checked some of the proposed 'unified science' from this Ucadia site and it is laughable. He invents new names, which have absolutely nothing to do with the well tested and verified physical nature and structure of the factual universe... an example is this below and anyone halfway familiar with ANY real science would see that O'Collins simply has no deeper familiarity with the real science of the human historical journey.

    For example a magneton is a well defined characteristic of quantum mechanics, regarding the intrinsic angular momentum of an electron. Frank Collins then 'invents something' he considers unique to the UCADIA 'unified theory' as a magneton and distinguishes it as a magnetic 'agent' from the 'electric' agent. A truly 'heavenly' fantasy!...

    Also any physics graduate clearly understands that neutrinos are ALWAYS associated intrinsically to the weak nuclear force (radioactivity) and so do NOT characterise the strong nuclear force. But then the NABSERS and quasi scientists mislead the seekers and now they hide as ex-political conservatives. It must be something in the waters they drink. The "heaton" as a new form of the 'calorie' and the 'phlogiston' prior to the discovery of 'Oxygen' as a 'particle of Heat'??!! Truly amazing that such nonsense is published on the web as a 'science or classification system' onto which a 'new world' could be built from the old previous construction. And the guru groupies follow this stuff and attempt to share this around? Learn some real physics and learn some real history before sprouting your nonsense about in your mental environment pollutions.

    http://ucadia.com/uca/u09/091000.htm



    Traditional force/energy

    Level---UCA element name

    Gravity---1. Unita---NEDA Unita

    Strong force---2. Super sub---E Neutrino

    Radiation (gamma)---2. Super sub---Cosmics

    Magnetism---2. Super sub---Magneton

    Light---3. Sub atomic---Photon

    Heat (infrared)---3. Sub atomic---Heton

    Electricity---3. Sub atomic---Electron,Positron

    Burn (fire)---4. Atomic---Hydrogen




    [3:52:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: which obviously fits with 364 1
    [3:52:47 PM] Thubanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_in_Arcadia_ego
    [3:53:04 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: or 365 - there 'rebooting day' as , aluna calls it - or, dead day
    [3:53:17 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: in haab 360 5
    [3:54:10 PM ] Thubanis: It so is used by many new agers to link the 'Tomb of Mary Magdalene' or 'God' or the 'Black Madonna' etc etc to this painting and the ARCADIA ARCHETYPE


    [3:54:14 PM] Thubanis: "Et in Arcadia ego" is a Latin phrase that most famously appears as the title of two paintings by Nicolas Poussin (1594–1665). They are pastoral paintings depicting idealized shepherds from classical antiquity, clustering around an austere tomb. The more famous second version of the subject, measuring 87 by 120 centimetres (34.25 x 47.24 in), is in the Louvre, Paris, and also goes under the name "Les bergers d'Arcadie" ("The Arcadian Shepherds").


    [3:55:00 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, poussin
    [3:55:11 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: reincarnated as a famous british painter
    [3:55:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: named Ralph Shepherd
    [3:55:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: part of a group of 12 painters in britian
    [3:56:22 PM] Thubanis: LOOK HERE
    [3:56:31 PM] Thubanis: Arcadia

    The 16th century Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano applied the name "Arcadia" to the entire North American Atlantic coast north of Virginia. In time, this mutated to Acadia. The Dictionary of Canadian Biography says: "Arcadia, the name Verrazzano gave to Maryland or Virginia 'on account of the beauty of the trees', made its first cartographical appearance in the 1548 Gastaldo map and is the only name on that map to survive in Canadian usage. . . . In the 17th century Champlain fixed its present orthography, with the 'r' omitted, and Ganong has shown its gradual progress northwards, in a succession of maps, to its resting place in the Atlantic Provinces".


    [3:57:47 PM] Thubanis: The letter 'R' omitted renders Arcadia as Acadia with CR=U phonetically as See R with R=666=99
    [3:59:50 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: can someone capture this painting - http://www.redshiftarts.co.uk/contact-red-shift-arts and post it somewhere on thubansprutz


    [3:59:51 PM ] Thubanis: Finally this 'critique' from an Icke forum tells the brainwashed seeker a little more about Frank O'Collins and the real motives of UCADIA. Interesting that one 'conspirator' critiques another 'conspirator here.

    The UCADIA organization, created by Frank O'Collins, from which Brian quotes in his article and promotes on his website is simply a "model" from which to form a new society. It appears as a large organization with many affiliates but upon closer examination you will notice that every single affiliate website which are listed in his website are all owned by Frank himself. There are no member lists or contacts other than Frank. All websites have been created from the same template. The organization is built around philosophies which Frank highlights in his 2 books, "The Journey of UCA" and "The Journey of Self". The former outlining his concepts, ideologies, language and complex symbols which make up this language. The latter exposing his ideoligies regarding religion, the soul, the mind, ancient systems of law, socio-political models and much more... Frank, however, advocates the United Nations model and seperates the world into unions, eerily similar to the Club of Rome's plan to divide the world into 10 regions. It seems odd to me that a man who seems to be knowledgeable in so many aspects of social and political systems would be oblivious to the reality of why, and by whom, the United Nations were formed. How can a man who is well versed in ancient systems of law and the etymology of words and is advocating a new system of law, be supporting the United Nations model?

    The UCADIA model also supports a global currency. In chapter 18 of "The Journey of Self" entitled "EKELOS - ethical economics", Frank states that "A single global currency however, would fundamentally alter and enable a revolution in the way trade is conducted around the world" He continues with the idea that every human being would be digitally identified through corporate controlled Unique Digital Avatars.
    "In the 21st century, all human beings are identified by electronic information in some way on a number of computer systems. This electronic information might be as simple as dates of births, deaths and marriages. Electronic information will also exist if a person has a bank account, or earns income and is subject to paying taxes."
    "A credit would be printed on a smart card device with an electronically charged value of 1, 5, 10, 20. Alternatively a credit would be a corporate created device storing credits through their credit network (such as EFTPOS)."


    In other words, Frank would like a societal model based on UN philosophy, a global currency controlled by corporations and a unique digital identification system which stores all your personal information which would also be controlled by corporations. Sound familiar?

    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148360


    So for the Dragons here, the true 'quasi-political' agenda of UCADIA should become rather obvious and as exemplified by the critique of the Icke forum above. And this is just what my first impression about this was. This could actually be a real ptb infiltrator and 'double-agent whistleblower' if this UCADIA has a big readership as is claimed. Then, due to the lack of substance, this could be 'big brother' deception at its devious worst.

    ...

    People around the globe are awakening to the truth. I am grateful to so many people who have taken the time to share their knowledge so that we may all benefit from their insight. I thank you as well Brian, for sharing your thoughts, however, it is my opinion that your website, through collaboration, is deliberately set up as a stepping stone to the UCADIA website, which is a classic dis-information website.

    http://university.ucadia.info/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1196.0

    [9:01:41 PM] Thubanis: On this link Frank O'Collins directly 'wars' with ninz, the OP on the Icke thread at the 'University of Ucadia' - One can see, that ninz is tolerated there by the admins and mods for a while, but that the general mileu as NABS reurgitation should be selfevident. Ninz got the 'Lucifer' archetype all wrong, whilst Frank has this symbol rather right; but so has the Lucifer Trust and the 'Illuminati' as the 'Enlightened Ones' now don't they?

    This forum is comparable to MOA though in terms of scope and membership and so I do no longer carry the view, that Frank O'Collins functions in the capacity of a ptb infiltrator, like the Camelot/Avalon became or were. He seems to be sincere in his wellmeaning 'self delusions' and the 'mental illnesses' he accuses other 'alternative reformers' though.

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    [8:09:02 PM] Thubanis: Beware Princesses of the New Age of Aquarius - beware!~

    Susan the calendars are ok as they are

    [1:30:19 PM - Wednesday, August 1st, 2012 - 10UCT]

    Thubanis: FYI I do NOT consider Aquaries copy-pasting any data publically accessible from there as being in any way a 'break of protocol'.
    [1:30:57 PM] Thubanis: There was one instance, where intimate data about Raven was on cosmosdawn, when it should not have been
    [1:31:28 PM] Thubanis: This was my error and my fault alone, as I did not proof read this post, before it was shared on MOA I recall
    [1:32:35 PM] Thubanis: As I have stopped sharing on MOA. anyone sharing ANY public data from Thuban on ANY other forum is welcome to do so
    [1:33:19 PM] Thubanis: Having said this, I did not see the post in question here, as Carol edited it, so I cannot further comment as to if i feel this is appropriate or not
    [1:35:07 PM] Thubanis: I shared this Ucadia post however to make a point about how the 'would be reformers' fighting each other and there were the two opposing views in that post; besides my obvious comments, which analysed and critisized the metaphysical and scientific 'understanding' of Frank O'Collins
    [1:37:00 PM] Thubanis: I am well aware, that Aquaries is a 'follower' of Frank O'Collins and attempts to display openly how his 'view' and cosmology contrasts, competes or supplements Thuban cosmology. She does the same with oxymoron's 'obsessions' and the Logos deniers on a regular basis.
    [1:37:18 PM] Thubanis: This is nothing to 'worry about'
    [1:38:12 PM] Thubanis: I also know that Aquaries is fundamentally anti-Logos and adversarial to anything we are trying to do here.
    [1:38:39 PM] Thubanis: But after being a 'puppet' of the wishy-washy NABS for so many years, this is a point we can understand, or should try to accomodate
    [1:42:49 PM] Thubanis: What my sharing of this latest NABS nonsense tried to show, was that the real information, necessary to herald in a 'New World' MUST be thoroughly selfconsistent and rationally built on the existing edifices and mental structures
    [1:44:13 PM] Thubanis: Frank's science is utter BS, as anyone with an inkling of the history of science would see straight away. Frank is an expolitician and 'business LAW consultant'. This is why he puts so much emphasis on statutes and regulations.
    [1:47:32 PM] Thubanis: This ninz character is a super debunker and skeptic, who appears to be overzealous in his 'pursuits' of the disinformers. Yet he does a valuable 'job' of this and the refusal of Frank to further engage him and to let it up to his 'moderators' to defend Ucadia also shows the 'true character' in terms of his 'University of Ucadia' of having any cosmic 'clout'. It has a little, as Frank imo means well, but is somewhat 'lost' in his manner of blending his 'lifeexperience' as a 'business law consultant' with his earnest desire to bridge the chasms between real science and the metaphysics.
    [1:47:48 PM] Thubanis: This is the same Thuban and many other 'groups' are doing.
    [1:50:38 PM] Thubanis: The point is however, that the 'uniqueness' of Thuban cannot be copied or shared as some other 'uniqueness', say as Camelot or Avalon or Ucadia or MOA or Nexus or Atticus or Majix etc etc, as to do so, would require a much much deeper understanding of the premises, than you will find on the web and mainstream and alternative sites.
    [1:53:13 PM] Thubanis: So the 'competition' which Aquaries and other Thuban debunkers, espouse is a non sequitur; as to USE or UNDERSTAND Thuban, requires a lot of work, which is NOT found in any form of the NABS, which by nature is OVERGENERALISED in 'Love and Light' and wishy-washy pastings together of what is called New Age Philosophy or religion and also politics.
    [1:54:46 PM] Thubanis: So finally, Aquaries has done the dragons a favour in acting as a delegate from Thuban to MOA and in publishing a Thuban perspective on the value of UCADIA
    [1:55:33 PM] Thubanis: A kind of double-agent in the agency of not knowing what one does, seems an appropriate and final comment on this matter. And Aquaries' sharing of the 'Dead Sea Scroll' post and critique was similar and apparently did not result in 'deletions'. It also should be self evident that the actual 'readership' of anything Thuban is comparatively miniscule. This is at it should be for the dragon science to become a potent factor in the cosmic metamorphosis. Not many can understand the deeper agendas regarding this transformation in the present times.
    [1:56:09 PM] Thubanis: I might be away for a while!

    [2:27:21 PM - Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 - 10UCT]
    Ishtara Raven:
    It appears that there was a misunderstanding about the content and sharing of personal private Thuban chats from Aquaries. I have looked over the shared messages and find nothing personal or private that we would not otherwise share on our own public forums. It appears she took the conversations from our own forums to augment her own discussion about Ucadia and this is fine. I would like to say however should she paste any sensitive material from the private chats I would wish this to be deleted immediately. I will put my trust in Aquaries for now not to do such a thing and honor her desire to share Thuban data streams.

    Sincerely, Raven




    UCADIA Cult Predicts 4-Horsemen End of the World in 2012




    It seems that a group calling themselves the Unique Collective Awareness of DIA (UCADIA) has claimed to have predicted the arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and allege that the first two have already arrived.

    This self-proclaimed Spiritual Society (which is in fact made up of several smaller societies) was founded by Frank O’Collins in 1995.

    Though the group’s site is adamant about denying that it is a cult, it does portray many cult-like characteristics.

    One of which is predicting an impending end of the world in 2012.

    According to the Standard Examiner, UCADIA has openly stated the following:


    “The UTC Date for the 1st Horseman of the Apocalypse ‘White Horse’ was 12/21/2009 aka ‘Day of Divine Agreement.’ Haiti earthquake, Deepwater Horizon, Australia fires, Pakistan and India Flooding, Russian heat wave/drought, and the European deep freeze soon followed. The UTC date for the 3rd ‘Black Horse’ is 12/21/2011 aka ‘Day of Judgment’. The UTC date for the 4th ‘Pale Horse’ is the ‘Day of Redemption’ 12/21/2012.”

    Notice a pattern here?


    All of these dates revolve around the winter solstice. The final being (you guessed it) December 21, 2012. It seems the “Ucadians” are jumping on the 2012 bandwagon with their own version of what is to come.

    UCADIA Societies Create "Supporting Evidence"

    What is really comical about the cult’s predictions is that in the Standard Examiner’s articles about them, the author lists 10 other websites that seem to back up the claim.

    However, all of the websites listed are in the same network of “societies” that make up UCADIA.

    What is the group’s rationale behind this? Simply put; money! Just read their Help UCADIA webpage:


    Now, ahead of handing over the complete Ucadia model to communities that support Ucadia around the world, Frank O'Collins and Ucadia need your support and help. Without your help, the next six months will be even more difficult as devoting the time necessary to prepare transition means almost no time to earn an income to pay to survive and support UCADIA.

    Please show your help in a practical way by choosing to donate through one of the four options below.

    Those options are: $60, $300, $900, or $1800.

    In short, UCADIA is just another Doomsday Cult out to make a quick buck off the whole End of the World in 2012 theory.

    [11:49:44 AM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=390539641028734&set=a.119791638103537.28779.117905868292114&type=1&theater
    [11:49:49 AM] Ishtara Raven: tony look at this
    [12:53:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmmm researching this ucadia XXXX ....Tony this crap is scarry as hell, and I believe 44 has been into this for a while now. I am seeing all kinds of crap about how to challange the laws and the system, mortage fraud ect. Remember when she said she is challanging the mortgage of her house and all that? Well I think Frank O Collins has been helping her out here. She is deep into this XXXX, worshiping him like a god. i read her dialogue with xeia and it is very troubling to me.
    [12:55:03 PM] Ishtara Raven: i have tried to find anyone debunking ucadia and the guy must have google paid off or something because every thing i type in with his name or ucadia comes up with his websites, youtube videos and it goes pages deep into the searches. this is so disgusting.
    [12:55:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/06/ucadia-cult-predicts-4-horsemen-end-of-the-world-in-2012/
    [12:55:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: so far i have found this article, but everything else pretty much leads you to one of his websites
    [12:56:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: this is obviously a huge money making scam
    [12:56:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i think she has been sucked in
    [12:57:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: likely he is acting as councel for people who want to take on the system and charging them money, like ungodly ammounts of money
    [12:57:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: it is my suspicion that he is totally freelancing this garbage from his home pc

    [6:34:57 PM] Ishtara Raven: seems he is worshiped quite heavily
    [6:34:58 PM] Thubanis: This was important to me
    [6:35:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: no i dont mind
    [6:35:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am disgusted with it
    [6:35:14 PM] Thubanis: Good
    [6:35:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: totally
    [6:35:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: its obscene how he has blocked anything negative about himself
    [6:35:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: and his organization
    [6:36:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: and after i read xeias convo with 44, which just loaded today for some reason, it had the hair on my back raised
    [6:36:35 PM] Thubanis: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED
    [6:36:40 PM] Thubanis: I know
    [6:36:56 PM] Thubanis: He is antichrist mind through and through
    [6:37:07 PM] Thubanis: Hiding as love and light in new laws
    [6:37:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: santos bonnaci and maxwell and the rest of the naBS circle of deniers back ucadia, so disgusting
    [6:37:30 PM] Thubanis: Well of course
    [6:37:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes and i see a ptb agenda here too, these are UN charter laws
    [6:37:45 PM] Thubanis: It is the antichrist mind as said
    [6:37:48 PM] Thubanis: in full flight
    [6:37:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: its total promotion of the UN theme
    [6:38:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes horrifiying
    [6:38:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am pissed off lol
    [6:38:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: i want to dig up anything on this dude
    [6:38:19 PM] Thubanis: Well you could reply on MOA if floyd says something see'[6:56:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: well its a big circle of false crap, the nesara people are behind ucadia too
    [6:56:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: backing it
    [6:56:11 PM] Thubanis: Really?
    [6:56:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
    [6:56:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: use bing
    [6:56:19 PM] Thubanis: How do you know?
    [6:56:34 PM] Thubanis: You should say this on floyds thread
    [6:56:53 PM] Thubanis: Exposing this crap is appropriate
    [6:56:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: because of the websites that i found and the discussions about it, these people all talk about nesara and promote it along with ucadia
    [6:57:10 PM] Thubanis: 44's new cosmic family
    [6:57:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: and nesara is a huge scam
    [6:57:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: money money money
    [6:57:24 PM] Thubanis: Yes ptb I know that
    [6:58:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: so nesara has adds running on a lot of affiliate sites that support and link to ucadia

    [7:15:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes definately
    [7:15:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: i do feel this that its activated and very powerful atm
    [7:15:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: because people really are in deep reflection atm
    [7:16:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: all over the world
    [7:17:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: but yeah this nesara BS has so many mesmerized and the ucadia crap too
    [7:17:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: like you need a piece of paper to declaire yourself free? wtf is this XXXX
    [7:17:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: does a squirrel need to declaire itself a freeman?
    [7:18:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: and draw up some fancy paper with a seal?
    [7:18:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: who came up with this XXXX
    [7:18:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: humans
    [7:19:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: and 44 is so facinated by Ucadia's so called legitimacy, all because it looks fancy and is another form of legalese and doubletalk, such crap
    [7:19:22 PM] Ishtara Raven: signed her soul over to the devil
    [7:19:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: idiot

    [7:21:53 PM] Ishtara Raven:

    (64) Jesus said, "A man had received visitors. And when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite the guests.
    He went to the first one and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said, 'I have claims against some merchants. They are coming to me this evening. I must go and give them my orders. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
    He went to another and said to him, 'My master has invited you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a house and am required for the day. I shall not have any spare time.'
    He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'My friend is going to get married, and I am to prepare the banquet. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
    He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a farm, and I am on my way to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused.'
    The servant returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to the dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his servant, 'Go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you happen to meet, so that they may dine.' Businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."


    [7:22:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: put this with it because nesara and ucadia are merchant men
    [7:22:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: maybe someone will get this
    [7:23:32 PM] Thubanis: Ok
    [[7:25:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am trying to find another piece of scripture where jesus says the kingdom is not for sale
    [7:29:01 PM] Thubanis: Hmm I dont know the passage, he talks in a certain way on this
    [7:29:23 PM] Thubanis: Perhaps you mean the 'living waters'
    [7:29:33 PM] Thubanis: All free

    [7:30:00 PM] Ishtara Raven: The Parable of the Rich Fool

    13 Then one from the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

    14 But He said to him, “Man, who made Me a judge or an arbitrator over you?”

    15 And He said to them, “Take heed and beware of covetousness,[a] for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.”

    16 Then He spoke a parable to them, saying: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully.

    17 And he thought within himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?’

    18 So he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods.

    19 And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.”’

    20 But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?’

    21 “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.”

    [7:30:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: Luke 12:10-40 (New King James Version)


    Luke 12:10-40
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    10 “And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.

    11 “Now when they bring you to the synagogues and magistrates and authorities, do not worry about how or what you should answer, or what you should say.

    12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”

    The Parable of the Rich Fool

    13 Then one from the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

    14 But He said to him, “Man, who made Me a judge or an arbitrator over you?”

    15 And He said to them, “Take heed and beware of covetousness,[a] for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.”

    16 Then He spoke a parable to them, saying: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully.

    17 And he thought within himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?’ 18 So he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods.

    19 And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.”’

    20 But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?’

    21 “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.”

    Do Not Worry

    22 Then He said to His disciples, “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; nor about the body, what you will put on. 23 Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing.

    24 Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than the birds? 25 And which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature? 26 If you then are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest?

    27 Consider the lilies, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

    28 If then God so clothes the grass, which today is in the field and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much more will He clothe you, O you of little faith?

    29 “And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind.

    30 For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things.

    31 But seek the kingdom of God, and all these things[b] shall be added to you.

    32 “Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

    33 Sell what you have and give alms; provide yourselves money bags which do not grow old, a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches nor moth destroys.

    34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


    [7:30 PM] Ishtara Raven:

    <<< 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

    [7:32:14 PM] Thubanis:
    Isaiah 52:2-4

    King James Version (KJV)


    2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

    3 For thus saith the Lord, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

    4 For thus saith the Lord God, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause.
    [7:32:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes that one is good too
    [7:32:37 PM] Thubanis:
    Isaiah 55:1-3

    King James Version (KJV)


    55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

    2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

    3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
    [7:33:20 PM] Thubanis:


    Revelation 21:5-7

    King James Version (KJV)


    5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

    6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    [7:33:41 PM] Thubanis:
    Revelation 22:16-18

    King James Version (KJV)


    16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

    17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    [7:33:48 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes 17
    [7:34:13 PM] Thubanis: [7:32 PM] Thubanis:

    <<<
    55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.


    [7:34:19 PM] Thubanis: I used this before
    [7:34:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: God did not say please donate in increments of 60 to 1800 dollars so i can keep my website going blah blah BS
    [7:34:32 PM] Thubanis: Lol
    [7:35:03 PM] Thubanis: Well add those quotes to your post on MOA
    [7:35:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: well XXXX, this Frank O Collins guy poor thing, he just cannot do his 'good' works without donations....
    [7:35:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: Do we ask for money?
    [7:35:21 PM] Thubanis: It is on floyds as well as thuban
    [7:35:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: do the animals ask for reimbursment for eating them?
    [7:38:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: but what does someone living in a gated community know of these things
    [7:39:22 PM] Thubanis: Right
    [7:39:27 PM] Thubanis: Self-Imprisonments
    [7:39:53 PM] Thubanis: mental zombiness and gullible exposure to the liars and cheats

    Full discussion here:
    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&cachecommand=bypass&pageindex=3

    Beware of pretenders. I will share this with floyd Tony. This might be a cult, he is unawares of.

    The Floyd

    Raven


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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Carol on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:31 am

    Hi Raven,

    Please let Tony know that I re-activated his Shilo account should he wish to post himself.

    Mahalo, Carol

    Ironically, I had a dream last night where the reptilians came to meet with me. That is the male hybrid counter-part character of the dream. We had a long discussion and it came up that there were 4 1/2 billion of them. I was somewhat astonished. Anyway the conversation had more to do with the direction of the inhabitants of earth and what I wanted to see happen. Of course the raising of consciousness to enhance compassion, the cleaning up of the planet, the re-education of the populace, the elimination of the trouble-makers where they are taken to re-education centers and get to relive in full living color all of the atrocities that they perpetrate as the victim in an attempt to turn them from their negative path, teaching the populace to live more simply and provide for themselves by growing aquaponic gardens, etc. I think this is a first conscious dream encounter with the dragons. In examining the problems of the planet and it's populace the problems appeared immense. One just has to focus on the essentials and work from there. Personally, I would like to see a world where kindness is at the forefront and the populace learn how to be stewards to the planet and each other.


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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Aquaries1111 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:47 am

    [quote="Raven"]
    Raven wrote:




    Q2. What does the word UCADIA mean?

    UCADIA stands for Unique Collective Awareness of DIA. A DIA are pure symbolic representations of meaning, the units of meaning upon which the UCADIAN language of pure symbolic semantic meaning is constructed.

    Unique Collective Awareness (‘UCA”) means the unique collection of all things, a pure concept defined as the ultimate paradox, the absolute. The relationships of UCA are reflected in the first seven (7) patents.



    Q3. What is the underlying idea underpinning the UCADIAN model?

    It’s about an idea that life is a dream of awareness in motion, that because we exist within the dream, we are bound by the rules of the dream, but because we are also awareness, we can determine how the dream unfolds.



    Q4. Who founded UCADIA? When and why?

    Frank O’Collins founded UCADIA back in 1995 after fifteen years of research and reflection. UCADIA was first launched on the Internet in 2001 and the additional websites launched starting in 2005. The reason why UCADIA was created relates to the personal journey of Frank O’Collins as explained on this site. The simplest answer is that the information could no longer be ignored and needed to be presented for all to see.



    Q5. Where was the founder of UCADIA borne? when? where does he live now?

    Frank O'Collins was born was borne at the Mercy Maternity Hospital East Melbourne (formerly known as Emerald Hill), Melbourne Australia March 14th 1965. O'Collins now lives in Sydney Australia.



    Q6. Has any other group(s)/individual(s) contributed to the creation of UCADIA?

    Until 2009, Frank O’Collins has been the sole Architect of UCADIA and all the information on the associated websites. No other group has contributed to its creation and while Frank O’Collins has shared various insights throughout the years with a handful of individuals, he remains its sole Author. In August 2009, through the Covenant of One Heaven a conference of notaries was founded and is now the custodians of ongoing development, refinement, correction and publication of the UCADIAN information.



    Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

    The founder, Frank O'Collins does not currently have a university degree or equivalent qualification to validate his knowledge and expertise. Instead, O'Collins is a musician, poet, philosopher, software designer and business documents writer by trade having worked in a wide variety of careers including politics, religion, finance and information technology.



    Q8. Who helped fund the creation and update of UCADIA?

    Up until 2010, the sole funding for the creation and update of UCADIA has been through the personal investment of its founder Frank O’Collins with no related benefactors, patrons, major donations or any other direct or indirect external financial assistance. From 2010, ongoing funding and development is managed by the notaries of One Heaven and associated societies of UCADIA through coordinated fundraising and asset management programs.



    Q9. How big is UCADIA?

    The UCADIA Model is represented presently by 38,500 web pages over 50 websites including political, spiritual, economic, scientific, information technology, societies, legal, financial and economic sites.



    Q10. Because of its size, where is the best place to start with UCADIA?

    Because of the tens of thousands of pages and over 50 web sites, it is easy to be overwhelmed with UCADIA. That is why it is recommended all readers begin with the e-books the Journey of UCA and the Journey of Self first as a good outline to the intention and core concepts of UCADIA before branching out into the other related web sites and information.



    Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

    Yes, Frank O’Collins is commissioned as a Notary of One Heaven according to the Covenant of One Heaven. A one-time member of the Liberal Party of Australia up until 1994/5, O’Collins has never been a member or associate of any radical group or movement. However, O’Collins is no longer a financial member of any other professional body or political association.



    Q12. From what sources did all the information in the UCADIAN model come?

    The Information contained in the Ucadian model up until 2010 has come from three principle sources: (1) Detailed reading and analysis of thousands of texts and articles on a wide variety of subjects from physics, chemistry, history, sociology, biology, mathematics, politics, economics etc read by Frank O’Collins; (2) Original invention and critical analysis by Frank O’Collins on the thousands of texts and articles written, producing unique perspectives on the material written; and (3) Divine inspiration.



    Q13. Where can I find a list of citations of sources for the UCADIAN model?

    Where a direct quote of information is reproduced in any way within any of the writing on any site of UCADIA, an embedded citation is listed. However, UCADIA does not adhere to the Roman citation method that requires all arguments to be based on the assumption of referenced primary texts in order to be legitimate.



    Q14. Has any of UCADIA been properly tested and/or checked by “experts”?

    Many elements of the UCADIA model have been submitted to academic and industry experts for their review over the years, including the fields of physics, philosophy, chemistry and mathematics. However, in almost all cases due to the lack of adherence to established academic protocols for precisely how new research is recognized as valid, no official validations have yet been given (as at 2009) to any of the information contained in UCADIA.



    Q15. Does the founder of UCADIA think he is some kind of guru/messiah?

    No. Frank O’Collins goes out of his way to demonstrate he does not think, behave or believe he is any kind of guru or messiah. In fact, UCADIA has an entire chapter devoted to explain the illness affecting many—but not the author—who openly or secretly believe themselves to be messiahs, called “messiah Syndrome”.



    Q16. Who and what does the founder think he is?

    The Founder of UCADIA, Frank O’Collins considers himself to be a man, no more or less special than any other man. That is why he lists his final will and testament with details on how he came to write UCADIA so it is clear to all who care to read that he considers the value and usefulness of the ideas of UCADIA fare more important than any personal benefit and awareness.



    Q17. What is the end goal of UCADIA?

    The end goal of UCADIA is that individuals have access to comprehensive, logical, integrated models of society capable of offering a real difference and that these alternatives provide choice when current societies face periods of crisis in coming years concerning depression, climate change and rule of law.



    Q18. Is UCADIA some kind of religion?

    No, UCADIA is not some kind of new religion. Many elements of UCADIA refer to religion and extend certain narratives and belief systems concerning religious history as key models. However, all religious references and information remains firmly in the context of models of society and society function and not as an exclusive separation from existing religious and cultural beliefs.



    Q19. Is UCADIA a cult?

    UCADIA in no way can be called a cult, unless the individual making such accusations wishes to deliberately misrepresent UCADIA for some ulterior motive. By definition, such a slander implies “some kind of unorthodox or spurious religion”—in other words against orthodox religious beliefs and without sound foundation. UCADIA demonstrates through its religious models a fulfilment of orthodox beliefs, not a conflict. Furthermore, UCADIA demonstrates comprehensive scriptural references and frameworks—again contrary to any poorly founded fringe group. Therefore, any claim of UCADIA being a cult must be treated as deliberately false and/or misinformed.



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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Raven on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:12 pm

    Carol wrote:Hi Raven,

    Please let Tony know that I re-activated his Shilo account should he wish to post himself.

    Mahalo, Carol

    Ironically, I had a dream last night where the reptilians came to meet with me. That is the male hybrid counter-part character of the dream. We had a long discussion and it came up that there were 4 1/2 billion of them. I was somewhat astonished. Anyway the conversation had more to do with the direction of the inhabitants of earth and what I wanted to see happen. Of course the raising of consciousness to enhance compassion, the cleaning up of the planet, the re-education of the populace, the elimination of the trouble-makers where they are taken to re-education centers and get to relive in full living color all of the atrocities that they perpetrate as the victim in an attempt to turn them from their negative path, teaching the populace to live more simply and provide for themselves by growing aquaponic gardens, etc. I think this is a first conscious dream encounter with the dragons. In examining the problems of the planet and it's populace the problems appeared immense. One just has to focus on the essentials and work from there. Personally, I would like to see a world where kindness is at the forefront and the populace learn how to be stewards to the planet and each other.

    Thanks Carol!
    I have told Tony and he is appreciative. He said that he would retire from all forums in minimal participation from the New Year however.



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    And I am emptied of them.
    The tears flow, quietly
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    I am drowning in this emerald forest,
    Your silence scintillating
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    He liked your draconian communication and just wishes to say to you, that your dreams will come true in the form of a new enfantile consciousness.
    This will be in the form of a cosmic babygirl to bring the long awaited peace and restructure of the old controlling power bases.

    The baby for the new world is a girl!




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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:37 pm

    Just like the big money behind Randian zionist supremacists like Pamela Geller hire English football hooligans to spill anti islamic hatred in to society and alternative boards. (If they are not disrupting other forums lol).

    The big money behind Petroleum is spewing out more than oil via their little internet helpers and 'alternative' media

    The Koch brothers, Charles and David, are the billionaire owners of Koch Industries, and two of the most obstinate climate change deniers out there.

    It actually turns out that they will stop at nothing to try and dirty the reputation of climate science, even going as far as fixing renewable energy studies to provide proof to their cause.

    Even when Richard Muller, a Berkeley physicist, reported earlier in the year that his 3 year long, Koch-funded investigation proved that global warming did exist, that human activity was largely responsible, and that it is having a far worse effect on the planet than commonly thought; the Koch’s just ignore the results and focused on another study that shows climate change is fake.
    Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/how-the-koch-brothers-manipulate-climate-change-studies.html#CTFq8QhLzxiztWgq.99

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/how-the-koch-brothers-manipulate-climate-change-studies.html

    Its little to do with conspiracy but much to do with politics.
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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Brook on Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:54 am

    Yes Floyd....Koch Brothers are funding lots of political agendas. Lobbying to what end?

    Extremism in any political direction can be very unhealthy. Why? Because their all funded by big money! We're not hiding under a rock and the story was made into a movie. I'm not certain if this is the full movie...but here it is. They speak of many things the Koch Brothers have their hands in. I believe they also speak of the climate change denial.

    Propaganda has many faces:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propaganda

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_warfare

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_warfare

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

    Me personally? I already know your opinion and don't really give a hoot. I know we need to cut carbon...but when is the question. My late son worked on a project and was very involved in the Climate change problems....so while you believe I'm so highly influenced I'll add the movie here for those who are not aware. And I'll add a picture of my son on one of his projects in 2007 ....he is the second from the right filling his head with gasoline.

    But you're on a political roll eh?..... "zionist supremacists"? Tell us what you really think....the many faces of extremism? Political in nature?




    Koch Brothers have their hands in lot's of things eh?



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    Post  Floyd on Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:27 am

    Libertarianism and its antithesis communism are two sides of the same coin minted in the same factory.
    The various philosophers and economic schools that helped to design both utopian idealist systems all work for the same guy lol. I saw them having coffee together on a lunch break once.


    The Zionist faction represented by individuals like the Koch Brothers who are the leading lights in 'Big Petroleum' misinformation and other corporate fascist cronies, do everything in their fat wallet power to destabilise the consensus about global warming. The standard Libertarian propaganda response to this consensus is that it some sort of socialist plot etc etc blah blah blah. Whilst they are very powerful im not sure how many take this kind of media manipulation seriously. This climate debate is more to do with science versus propaganda and big industry maximizing profits without consideration to the environment in which we live on an eternal basis thus gradually destroying the Planet Earth.

    Pamela Geller the zionist supremacist with her contributions to the christian fundamental dudes at worldnetdaily and through her atlas shrugs website along with the Ayn Rand Insitute are leading lights in the anti islamic pro Zionist propaganda machine in the USA. Although Geller has tried to influence British society by using Football Hooligans to spread Islamaphobia and pro Zionist misinformation on forums and in stadia through her affiliation with the EDL.

    So Zionist coporate and religious fascist propaganda has many tentacles in many different areas of society. Conspiracy forums are very useful to them.
    But so are scientists who are paid fat lump sums.
    Not to mention their media mouth pieces like Glen Beck etc.
    Sadly some people fall for it.

    They are all very naughty boys and girls and need their bottoms spanked.


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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  TRANCOSO on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:57 pm

    Floyd wrote:

    They are all very naughty boys and girls and need their bottoms spanked.
    For free?

    Who's side are you on?
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:38 pm

    Of course one must keep in mind. The idiot faction that includes the Koch brothers and the major oil companies and the destroyers in general, putting millions of dollars into spreading misinformation.

    The Koch brothers fund CATO...... who fund......who fund.........


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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  Floyd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:40 pm

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    Floyd wrote:

    They are all very naughty boys and girls and need their bottoms spanked.
    For free?

    Who's side are you on?
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    Sides?
    The only side I care about are the reds Uberlord.
    We are on our way back up
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:41 pm

    How are Ajax doin?
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:27 pm


    Sexy Randian Pam gets Close to English Football Hooligans.

    Hmm I wonder who funds these jokers



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    Re: Ultra Conservative Spawned Conspiracy Theories.

    Post  TRANCOSO on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:09 pm

    Floyd wrote:How are Ajax doin?
    Strong & steady on its way to the third title in a row.

    They've got 2 Danish equivalents of Suarez and the only field player who doesn't score on a regular bases is Vermeer - the goalie.

    It's such a wonderful coincidence that Liverpool saved Ajax' financial neck last year, paying 24 million euros for Suarez.

    And Suarez delivers the goods, doesn't he?

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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:26 pm

    Yep

    But who funds him.. The Koch Brothers, CATO

    Nah hes a pure scouser
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    Ayn Rand Insitute CATO

    Post  Floyd on Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:01 pm

    The sad thing is about Yaron Brook and his sorry arsed Ayn Ran Institute, is that they openly promote the alleged moral right of Israel in their horrendous apartheid against the Palestinians, which is equally promoted by the awful Pamela Geller via her own intellectually vacuous Randian website.

    These silly buggers are spending thousands of dollars infesting US University campus sites with the Rand Cult.

    They are of course funded by the Cato Institute.
    Their mission is racial hatred and bankster adoration (Rand and Greenspan were bum chums) and of course factional zionist elitism. (Of course we are all aware of the Soros faction on the other hand.)

    They are not taken seriously in Europe however as Rand is not generally taught given the fact she was a a fourth rate philosopher that nobody takes seriously.

    Yes they all enjoy the Koch brothers money.


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