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    12/4/2014   Just recently Elon Musk states that all of the claimed "new battery" technologies are on paper only.  The CEO of Nissan differs and is reporting that their technology will double the distance an electric car will go.  See below.

     
    Nissan CEO: Range Is “Off the Table”, Claims “More Than 400 KM” For LEAF In A Few Years

    3 days ago by Ted Dillard 68Comments
    Tokyo’s Business News channel

    Tokyo’s Business News channel
    Comparison of different technologies by OXIS Energy

    Comparison of different technologies by OXIS Energy

    We have several reports of Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn claiming that the automaker has real plans to double the range of the LEAF within “only a few years away.”  Here’s how the conversation went down:

       Host: Is Nissan working on new batteries?

       Ghosn: “Yes.”

       Host: Can you tell us more?

       Ghosn: “No.”

       Host: Will the range double?

       Ghosn: “Yes.”

       Host: That means more than 400 kilometers (249 miles)?

       Ghosn: “Yes.”

    Not much to go on, and the point we’re hanging on to is the simple response “Yes” to the question, “Will the range double?”  Not “Maybe”, not “We hope so”.  Just a simple “Yes”.

    Read into this what you will.  The Nissan LEAF batteries weigh in at a pretty decent 140 Wh/kg neighborhood, so if we’re looking at the same weight and/or volume, you need 300 Wh/kg, which is in the range of a few chemistries today, including cells discussed by Tesla.  As Musk is fond of noting, not a week goes by that a miracle battery isn’t announced, and we’ll hold off making a comment until we see it.  It does seem reasonable, however, and within the scope of  most every EV coming to market in the next few years.    

    And of course, this is Nissan making the miracle battery announcement, not some unknown startup with no track record.  Furthermore, it’s Ghosn himself making the statement.  We don’t believe he’d feel comfortable stating it if he wasn’t confident that it’ll play out to be true.

    Will the next-generation LEAF get 400 km (249 miles) of range?  That sure seems to be what Ghosn is implying, but remember these figures would apply only to Japan’s NEDC test cycle, so figure more like ballpark of 150 miles EPA.

    Remember 10 months ago when Nissan first started gauging interest in the 150-mile LEAF?

    Suffice to say, if that’s what we’re looking at for in the electric car industry in a few years, it’s a game changer.

    *Read more on The Daily Kanban, as well as HybridCars, for more detail, observations and speculation.

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    01/20/2015 As you can see article was written 2011. I will see if anything on this technology has surfaced since then.

    MIT NEWS



    New battery design could give electric vehicles a jolt
    A sample of 'Cambridge crude' — a black, gooey substance that can power a highly efficient new type of battery. A prototype of the semi-solid flow battery is seen behind the flask.
    Significant advance in battery architecture could be breakthrough for electric vehicles and grid storage.





    David L. Chandler, MIT News Office
    June 6, 2011



    A radically new approach to the design of batteries, developed by researchers at MIT, could provide a lightweight and inexpensive alternative to existing batteries for electric vehicles and the power grid. The technology could even make “refueling” such batteries as quick and easy as pumping gas into a conventional car.

    The new battery relies on an innovative architecture called a semi-solid flow cell, in which solid particles are suspended in a carrier liquid and pumped through the system. In this design, the battery’s active components — the positive and negative electrodes, or cathodes and anodes — are composed of particles suspended in a liquid electrolyte. These two different suspensions are pumped through systems separated by a filter, such as a thin porous membrane.

    The work was carried out by Mihai Duduta ’10 and graduate student Bryan Ho, under the leadership of professors of materials science W. Craig Carter and Yet-Ming Chiang. It is described in a paper published May 20 in the journal Advanced Energy Materials. The paper was co-authored by visiting research scientist Pimpa Limthongkul ’02, postdoc Vanessa Wood ’10 and graduate student Victor Brunini ’08.

    One important characteristic of the new design is that it separates the two functions of the battery — storing energy until it is needed, and discharging that energy when it needs to be used — into separate physical structures. (In conventional batteries, the storage and discharge both take place in the same structure.) Separating these functions means that batteries can be designed more efficiently, Chiang says.

    The new design should make it possible to reduce the size and the cost of a complete battery system, including all of its structural support and connectors, to about half the current levels. That dramatic reduction could be the key to making electric vehicles fully competitive with conventional gas- or diesel-powered vehicles, the researchers say.

    Another potential advantage is that in vehicle applications, such a system would permit the possibility of simply “refueling” the battery by pumping out the liquid slurry and pumping in a fresh, fully charged replacement, or by swapping out the tanks like tires at a pit stop, while still preserving the option of simply recharging the existing material when time permits.

    Flow batteries have existed for some time, but have used liquids with very low energy density (the amount of energy that can be stored in a given volume). Because of this, existing flow batteries take up much more space than fuel cells and require rapid pumping of their fluid, further reducing their efficiency.

    The new semi-solid flow batteries pioneered by Chiang and colleagues overcome this limitation, providing a 10-fold improvement in energy density over present liquid flow-batteries, and lower-cost manufacturing than conventional lithium-ion batteries. Because the material has such a high energy density, it does not need to be pumped rapidly to deliver its power. “It kind of oozes,” Chiang says. Because the suspensions look and flow like black goo and could end up used in place of petroleum for transportation, Carter says, “We call it ‘Cambridge crude.’”

    The key insight by Chiang’s team was that it would be possible to combine the basic structure of aqueous-flow batteries with the proven chemistry of lithium-ion batteries by reducing the batteries’ solid materials to tiny particles that could be carried in a liquid suspension — similar to the way quicksand can flow like a liquid even though it consists mostly of solid particles. “We’re using two proven technologies, and putting them together,” Carter says.

    In addition to potential applications in vehicles, the new battery system could be scaled up to very large sizes at low cost. This would make it particularly well-suited for large-scale electricity storage for utilities, potentially making intermittent, unpredictable sources such as wind and solar energy practical for powering the electric grid.

    The team set out to “reinvent the rechargeable battery,” Chiang says. But the device they came up with is potentially a whole family of new battery systems, because it’s a design architecture that “is not linked to any particular chemistry.” Chiang and his colleagues are now exploring different chemical combinations that could be used within the semi-solid flow system. “We’ll figure out what can be practically developed today,” Chiang says, “but as better materials come along, we can adapt them to this architecture.”

    Yury Gogotsi, Distinguished University Professor at Drexel University and director of Drexel’s Nanotechnology Institute, says, “The demonstration of a semi-solid lithium-ion battery is a major breakthrough that shows that slurry-type active materials can be used for storing electrical energy.” This advance, he says, “has tremendous importance for the future of energy production and storage.”

    Gogotsi cautions that making a practical, commercial version of such a battery will require research to find better cathode and anode materials and electrolytes, but adds, “I don’t see fundamental problems that cannot be addressed — those are primarily engineering issues. Of course, developing working systems that can compete with currently available batteries in terms of cost and performance may take years.”

    Chiang, whose earlier insights on lithium-ion battery chemistries led to the 2001 founding of MIT spinoff A123 Systems, says the two technologies are complementary, and address different potential applications. For example, the new semi-solid flow batteries will probably never be suitable for smaller applications such as tools, or where short bursts of very high power are required — areas where A123’s batteries excel.

    The new technology is being licensed to a company called 24M Technologies, founded last summer by Chiang and Carter along with entrepreneur Throop Wilder, who is the company’s president. The company has already raised more than $16 million in venture capital and federal research financing.

    The development of the technology was partly funded by grants from the U.S. Department of Defense’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and Advanced Research Projects Agency – Energy (ARPA-E). Continuing research on the technology is taking place partly at 24M, where some recent MIT graduates who worked on the project are part of the team; at MIT, where professors Angela Belcher and Paula Hammond are co-investigators; and at Rutgers, with Professor Glenn Amatucci.

    The target of the team’s ongoing work, under a three-year ARPA-E grant awarded in September 2010, is to have, by the end of the grant period, “a fully-functioning, reduced-scale prototype system,” Chiang says, ready to be engineered for production as a replacement for existing electric-car batteries
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    02/20/20 15
    Tesla batteries to power entire homes out soon – Elon Musk

    Tesla Motors says its ambitious plan to produce battery packs strong enough to power houses will be reality within six months. The promise comes as the company revealed lower-than-expected sales figures for Model S vehicles.

    “We are going to unveil the Tesla home battery, the consumer battery that would be for use in people’s houses or businesses fairly soon,” company’s CEO Elon Musk said during the latest earnings call, adding that the design stage of the product is over.

    The new type of battery is likely to be unveiled in the next “month or two,” Chief Technology Officer JB Straubel stated, adding that the idea is “really great” and “I’m really excited about it,” without further elaborating on the details of the design.

    The idea was mentioned last year as well, when Musk said he had something planned that would be placed in people’s homes and not their cars.

    “We are trying to figure out what would be a cool stationary [battery] pack,” Musk said. “Some will be like the Model S pack: something flat, 5 inches off the wall, wall-mounted, with a beautiful cover, an integrated bi-directional inverter, and plug and play.”

    The announcement came amid a somber sales outlook for the automaker, with latest figures falling short of predictions. Tesla shipped just 9,834 Model S vehicles in the fourth quarter, falling short of 11,200 total, which the company projected to deliver. Overall, Tesla assembled nearly 12,000 cars during the quarter.

    Following the news, firm’s shares dropped 4.6 percent on Thursday, with Tesla posting $0.13 loss per share versus the expected profit of $0.32 per share in the fourth quarter.

    Earlier in December, Musk tried to attract Chinese auto buyers to boost sales by announcing a trade-in program that would give shoppers a discount on a $100,000 Tesla car if they brought in their old car
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    Thorium Plasma Batteries – The Disruptive Oil Giant Killer Technology
    Alternative Energy

    At the risk of being black-balled and ostracized by my government and peers, I feel compelled to speak out as a plasma physicist. Since 1959 the scientific community has known that Thorium was a better, safer, and more economical option to power nuclear reactors, yet they pursued uranium – why?

    Simply put – because Thorium cannot be used to make nuclear bombs or power nuclear submarines – the two driving forces that gave birth to America’s nuclear program. Why is Thorium superior? For Five reasons as follows:

    1. Thorium is more stable and contains 20% more energy density than Uranium, thus yielding more energy per ton and dollar.

    2. It is impossible for Thorium reactors to have a catastrophic meltdown like we saw with Uranium in Chernobyl. Therefore there is no lethal risk to the community or world.

    3. Thorium is more readily available in abundance while Uranium deposits will be fully depleted within the next 10 years, and almost 80% of Thorium deposits are found in the U.S. not in unstable countries.

    4. Thorium does not pose the disposal nightmare that we experienced with uranium over the last 3 decades.

    5. Since Thorium is not suitable for atomic weapons, we need not worry about emerging nations who really want and need and nuclear energy while we fear a secret nuclear weapons program.

    So with all these benefits, why are we still using dangeous uranium that makes every nuclear reactor a ticking time bomb? In simple terms – the military industrial complex, big oil, and all the politicians whose campaigns were funded and supported by both.

    In 2004, Thorium plasma batteries made their debut as compact portable devices that could provide reliable power for 3-7 years, non-stop, without a recharge. Three inventors came up with 3 different but similar designs and all three worked flawlessly – providing a green alternate energy source with no adverse safety or environmental concerns.

    Since these stand-alone batteries can be manufactured in various sizes consider the following applications:

    * Laptop and other PCs
    * Electric bicycles & scooters
    * Automobiles
    * Trucks
    * Ships & Barges

    But think BIG and one of these plasma batteries the size of a shoebox could power a complete 5 bedroom house and every appliance in it. Or one the size of Hummer could power a complete 300 unit condominium complex without any external power grid connection. But think even bigger still… A battery the size of that same 5 bedroom house could power the City of Dayton – by plugging it into the local power grid. And there would be zero emissions. Thorium plasma power can eliminate every coal plant in the world in less than 5 years. But it gets better still…

    If we were to drive electric cars and trucks powered by plasma battery technology, we could reduce global warming by 30% within five years and perhaps 50% within a decade. But what is good for mankind and our grandchildren poses a huge threat of financial loss to others – primarily big oil and politicians. Here is why…

    While two-faced politicians talk about greening the world every four years just before they face elections, they are being wined and dined by big oil (Remember the Cheney-Enron affair?) to complicitly keep us addicted to oil. Why?

    Because roughly 43% of all revenues paid for gasoline and other fuels are collected by the government in taxes, and these taxes provide more than a third of the nation’s operating budget. Adopting green Thorium plasma battery technology would reduce national oil consumption by more than 85% and how would our pols get by with 33% less tax revenues. Once gotten, graft is no sot easy to surrender as one Senator told me last year – “It would be easier to quit smoking after 10 years of chain smoking!”

    So in essence, short term greed obfuscates even the chance of any long term vision or concern for our grandchildren. But if we found a way to use Thorium to make some horrific weapons of mass destruction that could kill millions if people in some foreign oil-rich land 5,000 miles away, Congress would be throwing billions into its development. In reality, those who are supposed to be serving “We the people” are simply serving themselves and the oil giants for as long as they can possibly profit.

    Actually, my recent information is that the U.S. and Russian militaries are already using these nifty batteries in their most sacred and secret programs (i.e. unmanned underwater missile launchers, spy drones, super long-range torpedoes, etc). So while Uncle Sam ignores our critical and immediate public need for green energy and clean air, they are preparing for some future war that could be years away, even though we now have enough weapons in our arsenal to destroy every major city in the Eastern hemisphere within 10 hours!

    Meanwhile, there are over 100 nuclear plants fueled by dangerous uranium vulnerable to natural disasters, terrorist attack, or targeted in the event of our next war. Each and every time a nuclear accident takes place, we all become potential victims left only at the mercy of the blowing winds. Our fates our left to luck.

    Japan’s nuclear fiasco is perhaps the final alarm Mother Nature will sound for us. Those of you with the interest and intelligence to sort fact from fiction need to start doing a little homework about Thorium plasma battery technologies and put the screws to your local pols, and compel them to put commitments in writing before they get your vote. As you may know by now, their ears only listen to us citizens every four years. Afterwards, they let money do all the talking – at our expense and risk.

    http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?p=37984886#post37984886

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    10/1/2015
    If you read the above article, you can skip the second one here because it is a reprint. All of the others are not.

    http://www.ecocarforum.com/ev-forums/posts/rumorous_news/thorium_plasma_battery_can_power_most_any_car_truck_train_or_boat_for_10_years_without_a_recha.html

    Thorium Plasma Battery can power most any truck, train or boat for 10 years without a recharge

    When we think of EVs (electric vehicles) we usually think of super lightweight tiny one or two passenger cars like we see on the homepage of this forum. In reality however, a somewhat new but suppressed battery technology can change how we think in a hurry. Below is an article from Energy Consultant B.D. McBride that will make you think twice about many things. Although he starts out talking about the Fukishima tragedy, he changes gears to reveal things the U.S. government does not want us to know - about green energy and solutions that have been available to us for years, but have been hidden from us. Anyway, this may make your blood boil so prepare yourself...

    "After the Fukishima fiasco many nuclear scientists were quietly asking each other why we continue to use dangerous and obsolete nuclear reactors fueled by uranium when they can be retrofitted to use safer, cheaper, and more powerful Thorium, the only green nuclear fuel which is virtually impossible to have a meltdown or other catastrophic failure. After all, Thorium is not only more abundant, much cheaper to acquire and process, but also yields a 20 to 1 energy yield advantage over uranium. Better still, Thorium cannot be used to make nuclear weaponry so every country on Earth (even Iran and other nations hostile towards the West) could enjoy a nuclear energy option. According to the EPA and CDC, common coal dust is three times more dangerous to people than Thorium. And Thorium nuclear waste is one tenth the volume of uranium nuclear waste. Frankly I cannot find a downside to Thorium. China, Norway, and India have already made the switch to Thorium, but in the West the technology is being conveniently ignored. Why?

    Worst still is what has been happening in the nuclear battery development arena. In 1996-1998, Dr. Shimoda (Osaka University of Technology), Dr. Khanna (Harvard), Dr. Eugene Mallove (MIT) and Dr. Aries M. DeGeus introduced the world to the realities of MHD physics and plasma powered energy - the same energy we see in lightning bolts during a thunderstorm. They put forth solid theories that even the U.S. DoE embraced and subsequently sponsored over $40 million of research that resulted in the publication of 5 white papers that were once posted on the internet between 1997-2008, but which all then mysteriously vanished in 2010 without explanation.

    Further, at least three, and possibly as many as five inventors including Russian Dimitri Petronov, and Americans Aries DeGeus, Dr. Mallove, and "Daniel" produced working prototypes of a Thorium plasma battery that was demonstrated to dozens of people, and unfortunately both the American, and Russian militaries. With zero emissions, these batteries were scalable and could put out consistent voltage with less than .0002 fluctuation, and could be regulated with an AC/DC converter. They could theoretically put out reliable energy without fission for their entire half-life. In the case of the Thorium 232 isotope, the battery could operate for over a hundred years. The three known prototypes powered an electric scooter, a two bedroom home, and a small four passenger car for over a year without a single recharge. Then word got out.

    Since then, two of these inventors were murdered and two others disappeared and nobody knows what happened to the prototypes. Then the Pentagon invoked “National Security” and issued a gag order to the only surviving inventor who has since gone underground. Information at the DoE about Thorium and other nuclear batteries vanished just like related details at over a dozen other links like these were also removed:

    http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/Locomotive_Power_Sources.docx
    http://www.zimbio.com/Aga+Khan/articles/5vV_3KpLg2L/10+Million+USD+Offered+Thorium+Plasma+Battery
    http://www.thoriumenergyalliance.com/downloads/China_Independent_article...

    No, I am not a conspiracy nut. I am a cum laude graduate of Purdue University. Stop laughing and read these links:

    http://www.theorionproject.org/en/suppressed.html
    http://open.salon.com/blog/green_energy_reports/2011/07/01/thorium_plasma_battery_technology_-_wrongly_top_secret
    http://peakoil.com/alternative-energy/plasma-battery-inventors-disappearing-regularly/
    http://www.libertariannews.org/2011/08/24/8-grams-of-thorium-could-replace-gasoline-in-cars/
    http://www.greenforum.com/green-news-informative-articles/7795-thorium-plasma-batteries-can-safely-power-trans-continental-high-speed-bullet-trains.html
    http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/thorium.html

    Valuable technology which can eliminate coal plants, global warming, and wean the world off fossil fuels is being suppressed by the western governments and their oil industry/national defense puppet masters my friends. Use of a Thorium plasma battery in 50 million American cars would eliminate over $850 million USD every single day in fuel tax revenues at the state and federal levels in America. That income represents about 40% of America's operating capital.

    Now since these batteries are scalable, imagine the one the size of about 500 square meters is plugged into a power grid and supplies clean, green electricity to a city of 2 million residents. Even more government revenues are denied. But the technology suppression is not only based on economics, but apparently national security according to this link:

    http://www.zimbio.com/National+Science+Foundation+-+NSF/articles/hB0g3vD3aFY/New+plasma+battery+now+restricted+only+military

    If plasma battery technology is good enough for the U.S. Navy and NASA, it should be good enough for every citizen whose taxes pay for both of those government agencies to operate! If the batteries are good enough to power an electric tank, they should be good enough to power every family's car. This suppression reminds me of the old Canadian Avro jet fighter plane the U.S. Defense Department demanded be destroyed in the 1950s. Clearly these batteries are certainly not in the best interests of the $600 Billion oil industry.

    How much do you think it costs to bribe,.... er,.... sorry, "lobby" every member of the House and Senate? My wife who is an accomplished lawyer and former U.S. Assistant Attorney, thinks this technology suppression is a classic textbook case of "racketeering" and "organized crime". She directed my attention to this link:

    http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18763&sid=c4ad1722d95bb4e4e5f2fa70454d61c0

    This is one time I actually agree with my wife!

    P.S. For those wanting a crash course on the wonders of Thorium, check out this great primer By Dr. Bob Greene and the attached files:

    http://www.greeneforoffice.org/uploads/Thorium_Basicsdraft.pdf


    http://peakoil.com/alternative-energy/thorium-plasma-batteries-the-disruptive-oil-giant-killer-technology/
    http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?p=37984886#post37984886

    Thorium Plasma Batteries – The Disruptive Oil Giant Killer Technology

    At the risk of being black-balled and ostracized by my government and peers, I feel compelled to speak out as a plasma physicist. Since 1959 the scientific community has known that Thorium was a better, safer, and more economical option to power nuclear reactors, yet they pursued uranium – why?

    Simply put – because Thorium cannot be used to make nuclear bombs or power nuclear submarines – the two driving forces that gave birth to America’s nuclear program. Why is Thorium superior? For Five reasons as follows:

    1. Thorium is more stable and contains 20% more energy density than Uranium, thus yielding more energy per ton and dollar.

    2. It is impossible for Thorium reactors to have a catastrophic meltdown like we saw with Uranium in Chernobyl. Therefore there is no lethal risk to the community or world.

    3. Thorium is more readily available in abundance while Uranium deposits will be fully depleted within the next 10 years, and almost 80% of Thorium deposits are found in the U.S. not in unstable countries.

    4. Thorium does not pose the disposal nightmare that we experienced with uranium over the last 3 decades.

    5. Since Thorium is not suitable for atomic weapons, we need not worry about emerging nations who really want and need and nuclear energy while we fear a secret nuclear weapons program.

    So with all these benefits, why are we still using dangeous uranium that makes every nuclear reactor a ticking time bomb? In simple terms – the military industrial complex, big oil, and all the politicians whose campaigns were funded and supported by both.

    In 2004, Thorium plasma batteries made their debut as compact portable devices that could provide reliable power for 3-7 years, non-stop, without a recharge. Three inventors came up with 3 different but similar designs and all three worked flawlessly – providing a green alternate energy source with no adverse safety or environmental concerns.

    Since these stand-alone batteries can be manufactured in various sizes consider the following applications:

    * Laptop and other PCs
    * Electric bicycles & scooters
    * Automobiles
    * Trucks
    * Ships & Barges

    But think BIG and one of these plasma batteries the size of a shoebox could power a complete 5 bedroom house and every appliance in it. Or one the size of Hummer could power a complete 300 unit condominium complex without any external power grid connection. But think even bigger still… A battery the size of that same 5 bedroom house could power the City of Dayton – by plugging it into the local power grid. And there would be zero emissions. Thorium plasma power can eliminate every coal plant in the world in less than 5 years. But it gets better still…

    If we were to drive electric cars and trucks powered by plasma battery technology, we could reduce global warming by 30% within five years and perhaps 50% within a decade. But what is good for mankind and our grandchildren poses a huge threat of financial loss to others – primarily big oil and politicians. Here is why…

    While two-faced politicians talk about greening the world every four years just before they face elections, they are being wined and dined by big oil (Remember the Cheney-Enron affair?) to complicitly keep us addicted to oil. Why?

    Because roughly 43% of all revenues paid for gasoline and other fuels are collected by the government in taxes, and these taxes provide more than a third of the nation’s operating budget. Adopting green Thorium plasma battery technology would reduce national oil consumption by more than 85% and how would our pols get by with 33% less tax revenues. Once gotten, graft is no sot easy to surrender as one Senator told me last year – “It would be easier to quit smoking after 10 years of chain smoking!”

    So in essence, short term greed obfuscates even the chance of any long term vision or concern for our grandchildren. But if we found a way to use Thorium to make some horrific weapons of mass destruction that could kill millions if people in some foreign oil-rich land 5,000 miles away, Congress would be throwing billions into its development. In reality, those who are supposed to be serving “We the people” are simply serving themselves and the oil giants for as long as they can possibly profit.

    Actually, my recent information is that the U.S. and Russian militaries are already using these nifty batteries in their most sacred and secret programs (i.e. unmanned underwater missile launchers, spy drones, super long-range torpedoes, etc). So while Uncle Sam ignores our critical and immediate public need for green energy and clean air, they are preparing for some future war that could be years away, even though we now have enough weapons in our arsenal to destroy every major city in the Eastern hemisphere within 10 hours!

    Meanwhile, there are over 100 nuclear plants fueled by dangerous uranium vulnerable to natural disasters, terrorist attack, or targeted in the event of our next war. Each and every time a nuclear accident takes place, we all become potential victims left only at the mercy of the blowing winds. Our fates our left to luck.

    Japan’s nuclear fiasco is perhaps the final alarm Mother Nature will sound for us. Those of you with the interest and intelligence to sort fact from fiction need to start doing a little homework about Thorium plasma battery technologies and put the screws to your local pols, and compel them to put commitments in writing before they get your vote. As you may know by now, their ears only listen to us citizens every four years. Afterwards, they let money do all the talking – at our expense and risk.


    http://www.zimbio.com/National+Science+Foundation+-+NSF/articles/hB0g3vD3aFY/New+plasma+battery+now+restricted+only+military
    January 23, 2011

    New plasma battery is now restricted to only military applications as DoD robs inventor of fame and fortune.

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    Gene Crawford

    ...Danny is not allowed to tell us very much. In fact, according to the court order he was served by the Pentagon's legal department, he is not even allowed to tell us his real name or anything about the incredible plasma battery that took him almost 12 years to develop. This green energy device (which we learned on our own), operates on radiated isotopes and magnets, puts out a steady and constant charge of AC or DC current for 5 to 7 years, and is very compact. So much so, that one the size of a pack of cigarettes can power a television set or electric scooter, and one the size of a shoebox can, and did power a small car with an electric motor non-stop for 13 months - before Uncle Sam came along and confiscated all of it - in the name of national security. Government agents not only seized his prototype, but all of his notes, drawings, and even his computer's hard drive! To add insult to injury even his patents were ordered to be sealed. As I talked to Dan on the phone for almost twenty minutes, I could hear the angst and frustration in his voice.

    You see Danny once worked as an Air Force reservist - one of those "weekend warriors" to pay his way through graduate school. So now our beloved government says that Dan who did some work for the design team of the now famous "Predator" remotely-piloted surveillance aircraft, forfeited his rights to ownership of any patents since he "probably used knowledge acquired during his time in the Air Force Reserves". So instead of helping the world put a final end to coal plants with his cool battery (they can be made as large as a house to power a city of 1 million people), the device is destined for covert military use.

    Indeed this is one amazing battery my friends. One the size of a refrigerator could power a 300 room hospital or condo building with no connection to the power grid for several years - all without any noise or emissions. They can even be used to power electric super high speed bullet trains without running miles of power lines.

    What became of Dan's battery? It was pirated by the DoD and turned over to Sandia National Laboratories where we learned several prototypes were made and delivered to NASA , U.S. Navy, U.S. Army, and U.S. Air Force for "field testing" about 18 months ago. What kind of tests, we can only guess. But after speaking with a long-time friend and graduate of M.I.T. who works as a consultant to Raytheon, his guesses are probably more realistic and accurate than mine:

    1. A long range torpedo for submarines that could travel for many miles to find and destroy its target, since current torpedo ranges are limited only by the duration of their power source.

    2. Perhaps a silent tank or armored vehicle powered by an electric motor and a plasma battery that would allow it to traverse and entire continent without ever having to refuel.

    3. How about a power source for a satellite or a high altitude surveillance drone - also powered by an electric motor or turbofan and a plasma battery. Such an combination would enable the aircraft to remain aloft for days or even weeks!

    But with Global Warming threatening our world, this plasma battery could easily end our addiction to oil and power our automobiles and eliminate 27% of our global emmissions. It could provide reliable power for many remote rural communities and third world countries. It could be used extensively in disaster-relief operations following hurricanes like Andrew and Katrina with on site power generation without the need for fossil fuels to run noisy generators.

    Is it fair for the Pentagon to take priority over all new technology - especially one that would benefit our environment so dramatically? We tried to ask them, but of course they had "no comment". It is a sad day in America when our best and brightest inventors are muzzled and their incredible gadgets reserved only for some future war that may or may not take place. Humanitarian needs and benefits need to trump military planning in my humble opinion. If you agree with me, send a copy of this article and say so in a letter to your Congressman and Senator.

    Today Danny has yet another great green energy idea smoldering in his brain, but he doesn't dare spend yet another $150,000 and 12 years of his life to develop it, only to have it stolen away by the government. Now his biggest fear is being arrested since he was read the National Security Act warning when served his gag order. Before I hung up the phone with Danny, he told me in a sad voice of surrender,,, "They didn't even say thank you."


    http://www.greenforum.com/green-news-informative-articles/7795-thorium-plasma-batteries-can-safely-power-trans-continental-high-speed-bullet-trains.html

    Thorium Plasma Batteries Can Safely Power Trans-Continental High-Speed Bullet Trains

    High Speed Bullet Trains could be self-powered with Thorium Plasma Batteries – Eliminating route restrictions and need for external electric power lines.

    China and Japan are leading the world in development of high speed bullet train routes, but thus far routes have been limited to major metropolitan corridors supported and tethered to local power grids. But new battery technologies would allow a transnational route or even a transcontinental route that would require no external power source. The development of the Thorium plasma battery, a nuclear battery created independently by both U.S. and Russian inventor could power the trains for 5-10 years without a single recharge, and without posing any safety or health hazards.

    In fact, a Thorium plasma battery the size of a small refrigerator would be sufficient to power today’s trains with a reliable self-contained power source. Unfortunately, both the American and Russian militaries have seized ownership of the technology from their inventors and promptly confiscated and classified all notes, drawing, and patents related to the device, ostensibly “to protect national security interests”. See these links:

    The very same batteries could be used to power cell phones, laptops, electric scooters, electric vehicles, and even entire homes, as was demonstrated by the Russian inventor DiMitri Petronov in 2009. Both the CDC and EPA have reported that Thorium, the only safe green nuclear fuel that can actually be safely handled by humans with no chance of a catastrophic failure, is actually 30 times safer than common coal. Although India, China, and Norway are now using Thorium to power their nuclear reactors, the Thorium plasma battery does not utilize fission, but rather the principles of fusion of radiated isotopes. Only five scientists in the world have confirmed knowledge of the new battery, and allegedly Panasonic is poised to be the first to introduce the technology in a cell phone that will never need to be recharged.

    But for now, only the U.S. Navy and Air Force get to use these super high-tech batteries for long range torpedoes and anti-satellite weaponry. Sadly, this same technology if made available for commercial applications could reduce green house gases by 30%-50% and ultimately replace every coal plant in the world since the batteries could be made in large 1-10 megawatt sizes that could be plugged into local power grids to power entire cities.

    So for now at least, public transportation, global warming, and clean green energy is forced to take a back seat to weaponry that may never even be used. This questionable rank of priorities by the American and Russian governments makes one wonder if the United Nations is totally devoid of any leadership, ethics, and courage to compel public access to such useful technology.

    Finally found with google search:

    "Not again with the same thorium hoax, exposed as such repeatedly elsewhere... Again, it's been talked about since the 1950s, so do your own research before you start laughing. Start with Scientific American, especially the comments by readers...

    But yes, thorium and unicorns and pixie dust will make all the technical struggles that have persisted since 60 years ago magically disappear. Have I missed all the interim Thorium-powered concept cars at the last 20 years of auto shows, too?"

    No wonder the hoaxers can't post at TES!


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    Plasma Battery Inventors Disappearing Regularly

    I received this from an MIT alumni of mine and since I personally met Gene Mallove, I have to take this quite seriously. I hope you do too.

    In 1998 an American named Stanley Meyer, (probably Ohio’s most famous inventor) was poisoned and died clutching his throat outside a restaurant in his hometown of Grove City just moments after he jumped up from the table and shouted “They’ve poisoned me – I am going to die!” Stan had invented and demonstrated many times for the media and hundreds of people, his now-famous dune buggy with an internal combustion engine that ran only on water. Stan had found a practical and cheap way to produce hydrogen on demand. He was offered millions by Arab investors (well-documented) and declined their offers. The Pentagon had officials meet with Meyer and there were agreements made to fund a research and production facility. Within two months however, Stan was dead at age 45.

    Eugene Mallove another alternate energy inventor found a way to use the principles of cold fusion to replace oil as our primary fuel and he was found beaten to death in 2005. In 2007 A.M. DeGeus another American inventor who is one of two American scientists who pioneered the plasma battery was found slumped over in his car parked at an Airport in North Carolina before boarding a plane for Europe where he was expected to ink a multi-million dollar funding deal that would put his invention, another oil replacement on the market. In 2010, Russian Dimitri Petronov, who also produced a plasma battery the size of a shoebox that powered his entire two bedroom house and all the appliances in it for over a year without a single recharge, vanished after being seen enjoying coffee and pastry in Moscow’s Red Staren Coffee Shop. His disappearance took place only a few weeks after giving elaborate demonstrations of his 3 year battery to top Generals at a Russian military base. Yet another American inventor, who we only know now as “Danny” had invented a similar plasma battery that went even longer than Petronov’s, was hustled away by FBI agents after returning from a visit to China where he met with investors and planned to demonstrate his battery. Although he was confirmed to be alive in January of 2011, he no longer resides in his California home and he won’t even tell his own sister where he is living!

    For details about Mallove, Petronov, and Danny, visit these links:

    http://www.prlog.org/11404351-new-plasma-battery-technology-can-power-electric-cars-for-years-so-why-is-the-inventor-now-missing.html
    http://pesn.com/2007/12/05/9500463_self-powered_battery_inventor_dead/
    http://www.zimbio.com/National+Science+Foundation+-+NSF/articles/hB0g3vD3aFY/New+plasma+battery+now+restricted+only+military
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Mallove

    So why are these energy inventors disappearing or suffering sudden and unusual deaths? Well friends, just stop and consider who makes money from oil and how much money these people make… The petroleum industry is a $600 Billion ANNUAL industry in which less than 2,000 of the world’s most influential people receive 85% of this revenue stream, including the Bush and Cheney families, along with 73 other American, Saudi, British, and Kuwaiti blue-blood families just like them. Further, State, Provincial, and Federal governments in 32 countries derive over 30% of their operating budgets from gasoline and other fuel taxes. Typically 40 cents of every dollar spent on gas, oil, or diesel fuel goes into government accounts. Now imagine, that a new technology comes along that will eliminate this income stream, or at the very least, reduce it by more than half. Those who stand to lose billions of dollars will not think twice about snuffing out the life of an inventor or entrepreneur when the cost of a professional hit man is only $100,000 these days, with amateurs charging only half this amount. Certainly billionaires who own and control 85% of the world’s wealth are not going to let a few innovative scientists threaten to stop their gravy train.

    No matter how deceptive or well-covered up the murders may be, it is clear to most in academic and energy circles that very evil conspirators have monitors in the scientific community and patrolling the internet for new “threats”. If the new technologies cannot be discredited or outright purchased (only to be locked in a closet), the key people either disappear, suffer some bizarre accident, or become targeted for some phony criminal charges that keeps investors away from funding the technology involved.

    Those that merely think I am some “conspiracy nut” are in fact ignorant of reality and need to some homework. For starters they (perhaps even you?) need to stop getting their “news” from the mainstream media that is owned and operated by the same circle of blue-bloods and read the postings at http://www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm , wikileaks, www.informationclearinghouse.com, and democraticunderground.com. Or grab a few enlightening books like “Immaculate Deception” by General Russell Bowen or “The Defrauding of America” by Rodney Stitch. Only after you tune into the truth will your realize the general public is just being milked for more and more money by the wealthy, who keep everyone either oblivious, or diverted by one fabricated crisis after another. Americans have truly lost their collective backbone and become complacent sheeple. I believe it was Ayn Rand who said, “Every people get the government they truly deserve”. Start reading America or you will continue to be used and abused!


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    10/1/2015
    Thorium 'Battery' Startup
    20 August, 2014
    What is the definition of a nuclear battery? A new MIT startup wants to empower remote locations with their nano-nuclear battery at a price competitive with today’s dirty diesel generators.

    Out of MIT comes another interesting nuclear startup, UPower Technologies. The company was founded by three nuclear engineers and is targeting off the grid heat and electricity markets, aiming to replace dirty and expensive diesel generators which is today’s solution for this type of remote locations.

    The reactor is a container-sized, plug-and-play nuclear thermal battery producing 7MW thermal or 2MW electrical energy for 12 years without refueling.

    Not too much is known about the core technologies except that it is fuel agnostic; it can use thorium, uranium or recycled fuel, and does so in a solid form they call nano-nuclear. In this way it can reduce the half-life of existing waste, and it’s spent fuel can be reprocessed and reused in another reactor up to 7 times.

    UPower has won funding from MIT Clean Energy Prize and the Boston accelerator program MassChallenge, and is now in the hands of the famous Y Combinator for further fundin
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    10/1/2015
    This is the 4th posting on thorium batteries made on 10/1/2015.


    Nuclear Thorium Plasma Battery Victim of Technology Suppression?

    Well... First I was shocked and then angry. I then grew furious and finally outraged! Why? Just remember this story the next time you are at a petro station filling up your tank... While the whole damn world is addicted to oil, the American and Russian governments are using a battery that can safely power our cars for over a decade without a single recharge! At first I thought this might be a hoax or a clever ad to grab my attention, but after spending only 30 minutes on Google, I realized where there is smoke there is probably fire! Here is the link that ignited my curiosity...

    Thorium Plasma Battery Technology - Wrongly Top Secret? - Green Energy Reports - Open Salon

    Then I started following the links in the article and then shared it with my husband who wasted no time in reminding me that George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rica and that whole Republican gang are shoulder deep in the oil industry! These incredible batteries are very compact and can be made in any size, and one inventor ran his entire house for over a year on a battery the size of a shoebox (Google "Dimitri Petronov", "inventor," "Battery") and American inventor used his battery to power a car for 13 months before he disappeared. See this link...

    Plasma Battery Inventors Disappearing Regularly *|* Peak Oil News and Message Boards

    Then I read the Zimbio link in the National Science Foundation link and realized the U.S. Navy and NASA have been using this battery for over five years already! This is exactly what the world needs to eliminate coal plants and reduce global warming and those selfish morons at the Pentagon are keeping under wraps for their war toys! We found references to the battery being used in satellites and "super long range torpedoes". I think this battery would do the world a lot more good if we installed it the 4 billion cars an trucks driving around than inside a few hundred torpedoes that may never be used.

    We then found a link offering a $10 million reward for a plasma battery and when we followed the link, we discovered the inventor's family have not heard from him in over a year. Like the internet links, he also just disappeared. Apparently a Harvard genius professor was writing about this technology as far back as 1998 (see attached file by Dr. Khanna).

    My husband became intrigued since he is an electrical engineer and he found several references to "nuclear battery breakthrough" from 2006 to 2009 but all the links he found went to pages that were code "404" or "The page you requested was removed". Then we found a patent and a drawing of a plasma battery designed by Aries M. DeGeus and the following week it too was gone - just vanished! We can find stuff on the original RTG technology but very little on the new batteries that theoretically can live longer than people! Why does this have to be such a big secret? What the hell is going on? Is Uncle Sam so selfish with warfare technology that even information about the technology has to be deleted from public view? This battery should be in every cell phone, every laptop, every car, every truck, every ship, every home etc. My hubby says that if it could be made large enough it could be plugged into a power grid and we'd never need to use a coal plant again. Just think what that would do for the air we breathe and our environment in general.

    So, being a post graduate law student, I started to research the law about this IP concealment and this is where we got screwed friends. There are laws that give the U.S. and U.K. governments the right to basically seize any technology they like, seal the patent files, and do whatever they want with the technology! Do a Google Search on "Technology Suppression" and "Project Orion" and you will be blown away. I have attached some related stuff I found on the internet.

    Scientifically, plasma is the fourth state of matter, a mix of gas and liquid and plasma energy is exactly what is contained in a lightning bolt. My husband says there is enough electric power in a single lightning bolt to power Chicago for 6 hours. Imagine that someone figured out how to store this kind of power in a battery, and only the military can use it! Outrageous!!!!

    I think the scientific community and academia need to partner up with a high-power law firm to expose this obvious collusion with the oil industry. It is keeping us hostage to the oil at inflated pump prices.
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    10/20/2015

    Nissan’s Breakthrough Battery Will Enable 10-Percent EV sales by 2020
    by Jeff Cobb October 20, 2015

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    Electric car range anxiety will soon be a thing of the past, Nissan expects to ramp up its EV sales to 10 percent in a few years and it will have full autonomous drive “before anyone else.”

    The latter quote by Nissan executive Akiko Hoshino was perceived as a mild snub of wannabe autonomous tech, it comes in the wake of Tesla’s Autopilot release last week. Hoshino and corporate officer Hiroto Saikawa today said Nissan is intensifying its electrification toward the end of the decade.

    Saikawa told reporters at Nissan’s Yokahama-based headquarters today two factors will make EVs go mainstream by 2019/2020.

    One is that strict greenhouse gas emission targets will begin to go in effect by 2020 around the world, and these, it was said, can be met only by a significant increase in electric vehicles. The other factor is affordable and capable batteries with potential for cost-effective 250-mile-range EVs will be ready for the demand at this time.

    “The fuel consumption targets will become very stringent, and that will kick in at around 2019/2020, especially in the United States,” said Saikawa. “Suddenly there will be surge of demand.”
    “No more concerns about range” Hoshino and Saikawa. Source: Daily Kanbahn.

    “No more concerns about range” Hoshino and Saikawa. Source: Daily Kanbahn.

    This is when Nissan aims for EV sales to rise at first to 5 percent of its total, and to 10 percent “in the near future,” said Saikawa. “And if we would use a wider definition of electrification and also count hybrids, more than half will be electric cars,” Saikawa added.

    One might presume plug-in hybrids are also what was implied here, and meanwhile Nissan has already shown a Leaf mule with a 250 mile range battery.

    SEE ALSO: CEO Ghosn: Nissan Has Affordable 250-Mile Range EV Battery

    If the grand goals come to pass, it would also vindicate CEO Carlos Ghosn as a true visionary, as at least since 2011 he has been calling for 10-percent EVs by 2020.

    His early projections were tempered by less than expected sales, but the decade is not over yet, and Nissan says it has the battery to make it possible.

    This year the company is simply holding down the line with a 107-mile range Leaf update before that car launched in 2011 is updated for 2017.

    According to Bertel Schmitt, the editor of the Daily Kanbahn who attended the press briefing, knows the culture and speaks Japanese and English, among other languages, his read is they are going for it.

    The Kanbahn reports Nissan “is so confident of its technological moxie” that it will base its entire Japanese marketing on EVs and autonomous drive.

    The company has demonstrated a Leaf so equipped as well, and has previously announced plans to have highway based autonomous drive by the end of the decade.

    Schmitt told us Nissan expects to again demonstrate its increasing prowess imminently.

    “At the Tokyo Motor Show, Nissan is planning to put more than 100 journalists, foreign and Japanese, in a true autonomous drive Nissan Leaf, and will send them through thick Tokyo city traffic,” Scmitt said. “Freeway is easy, city traffic is the holy grail of autonomous.”
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    11/9/2015
    We may be getting a real time glimpse of a world that energy visionaries have long awaited — one featuring a large scale merger between clean energy technologies, like wind and solar, and large batteries that can store power from these sources and make it available at will.

    Meet Advanced Microgrid Solutions, based in San Francisco and headed by former Arnold Schwarzenegger chief of staff and California Public Utilities commissioner Susan Kennedy. The company specializes in the creation of “hybrid electric buildings,” office or infrastructure buildings that contain large battery systems that can simultaneously reduce energy costs for users and owners, and also help strengthen the larger grid by running on batteries at key times, and thus not requiring grid power. Thus, AMS is selling to businesses and utilities simultaneously, and with a recently announced deal with SunEdison to supply 50 megawatts of energy storage to major California utility Southern California Edison, there is clearly a market for this kind of service.

    But in many ways, AMS’s latest deal is even more intriguing — it is now announcing that it will supply and operate batteries for a very large California customer, the Inland Empire Utilities Agency. It’s a large municipal water treatment and distribution agency serving the San Bernardino County region of California, where it has 850,000 customers.

    Inland Empire is very advanced in trying to switch its operations, which include multiple plants for recycling and desalting water, to clean energy. That includes 3.5 megawatts of solar capacity at its facilities, another 1 megawatt of wind, and a 2.8-megawatt bio-gas fuel cell system. The agency says the latter is the largest of its kind in the world.

    Bringing large batteries into this mix will allow the agency to pay less in so-called “demand charges,” which are assessed based on peak levels of electricity usage, says general manager Joseph Grindstaff, by powering up batteries from the solar panels or other sources and then drawing them down again at opportune times.
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    11/27/2015
    Wind and solar energy projects are growing at a respectable clip. But storing electric power for days when the air is still or when the sun goes down remains a challenge, largely due to cost. Now researchers are developing a new battery that could bring the price of storage to more affordable levels. They report their new battery that uses low-cost materials -- sodium and magnesium -- in ACS' journal Chemistry of Materials.
    Today, lithium-ion batteries are the storage technology of choice for many applications, from electric cars to smartphones. And, it appears, saving up power for homes is next. For example, Tesla, the maker of luxury electric cars, is ambitiously expanding its lithium-ion technology to fill that niche and has already started rolling out systems to homeowners in a pilot project. But the $3,000 price tag for the pack itself plus installation costs put it out of reach for most customers. To make larger-scale energy storage more accessible, Maksym V. Kovalenko and colleagues wanted to develop an affordable alternative to lithium-ion.
    The researchers started with magnesium as the battery's safe, inexpensive and high-energy density anode material and paired it with pyrite, which is made of iron and sulfur, as the cathode. The electrolyte -- the electrically conducting component -- contains sodium and magnesium ions. Testing showed that the resulting device's energy density was close to that of lithium-ion batteries. It could get an additional two- to three-fold boost with further development of magnesium electrolytes. And because it's made with low-cost materials, it could one day help support grid-scale energy storage, the researchers say
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    Researchers create sodium battery in industry standard "18650" format.
    A new "18650" battery uses the transfer of sodium ions rather than lithium ions to store and release electricity

    A team of researchers in France has taken a major step towards powering our devices with rechargeable batteries based on an element that is far more abundant and cheaper than lithium. For the first time ever, a battery has been developed using sodium ions in the industry standard "18650" format used in laptop batteries, LED flashlights and the Tesla Model S, among other products.

    "The sodium-ion battery unveiled today is directly inspired by lithium-ion technology," explains solid-state chemist Jean-Marie Tarascon from France's Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique.

    In other words, like the lithium ions in lithium-ion batteries, sodium ions travel from one electrode to another through liquid during charging and use cycles without modifying the materials in the battery. The researchers are keeping those specific materials a trade secret for now, but the performance of the prototype battery is promising.

    "Its energy density is comparable to certain lithium-ion batteries, such as the lithium-ion iron/phosphate battery," points out Loïc Simonin, a collaborating researcher at LITEN (Le Laboratoire d'Innovation pour les Technologies des Energies Nouvelles).

    While lithium has until now had the advantage of being lighter than sodium and providing more energy, the element is also rare, while sodium is accessible and abundant, making up over 2.6 percent of the Earth's crust.

    The team is hoping to bring inexpensive sodium-ion batteries that can be used across a wide variety of applications to market in Europe as soon as possible.

    "The 18650 format enables us to provide proof of concept , and compare the performance of our batteries with those of similar format that are already available on the market. However, other formats will need to be designed to meet new requirements," explains Simonin
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    Post  bobhardee on Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:23 pm

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    This is big news. Really big. Not only are they working on the sodium battery in France but also in Japan.


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