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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:26 am

    I have been researching the work of Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer, discoverer of German New Medicine.  It is difficult to do because his work is highly suppressed.  I found a letter in German that he wrote to Pres. Putin in February 2015 posted on the internet, and by using Google Translate I have gleaned the name Ursula Haverbeck from that letter.  

    By searching YouTube I see there is this video in English:

    Published on Jan 27, 2015

    Ursula Haverbeck points out that with mainstream historical authorities now accepting that Auschwitz was not the scene of the murder of millions of Jews in homicidal gas chambers, there is no established "scene of the crime". She has challenged official bodies including ministers of the various German states (Länder) to provide an answer – to define the scene of the crime. They have so far failed to do so, and she must therefore conclude that there is no substantiation to the official history of Auschwitz.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1CVP97g-Uc






    I can see that there is a relationship between Hamer's life story related to the suppression of alternative medicine and what is happening to people who are branded as "Holocaust deniers."


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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Eartheart on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:54 am

    Another X-emple of how you have to become your own enemy-idol... the nazi ishrael und nazi.usa have become their own judgemental BS... Even the dark lodges in europop 1900 Germany may just have hated the derwisch andbecome entrenched in those ridiculous circles...

    By the way of counting the victims of jewish genocite on other cultures and genpools, we may have 2Billions since OT and as we know about their gameplot in Fukushima - they may have overkilled the plan-et. But check this out:


    Prisons across the uk are being privatised by Israeli company G4S (same people running Israeli privatised police and Israeli Army) and now it looks like our police force is being privatised by the same company too, The scary thing is G4S also run the security for the FEMA camps in America! So they are running FEMA camps in America and UK prisons, JobCentre security and now our police force are being privatised by them too!

    G4S Police UK
    G4S Policing Solutions

    G4S is the world’s leading international security solutions group – specialises in assessing current and future risks and developing secure solutions to minimise their impact works across a wide range of geographic markets and business sectors is a major provider of risk management and protection to governments and major corporate customers around the world is an expert in all aspects of local and international secure logistics Other facts about G4S +has operations in over 110 countries +was formed in 2004 from the merger between Securicor plc and Group 4 Falck A/S’s security business


    The scary thing is it doesn’t end there G4S are also buying into NHS hospitals and care homes. So if the Israeli security company will be completely in control of our prisons, Job Centres, Police Force, hospitals and US FEMA Camps what does that mean?

    Ha we live in a fanatic israely jew KZ, but not by Spirit - this one belongs to Jesus, the jew King. phantasix
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:56 pm

    Seashore wrote:
    The accusations of mass killing in gas chambers rely entirely on:

           a few depositions by interested parties, who were not cross-examined and often did not even appear in court to present their evidence,
           confessions of men held for months in solitary confinement and interrogated under duress, and even threatened that their wives and children would be handed to the Russians if they did not cooperate,

       a small number of documents: many simply unverified copies or translations, typed and unsigned, that have never been properly tested for authenticity, presented by American, British or Soviet Intelligence services. Remember the "dodgy dossier" of 2003 and Colin Powell's 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' presentation to the UN General Assembly, the "Kuwaiti baby incubators" of 1991 or, to go further back, the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 and the Suez crisis in 1956? In all of these, governments conspired to justify their actions with false information.

    Both gas chambers and extermination were regarded by the Nuremberg Tribunals and the later SS trials in Germany as "facts of common knowledge" and therefore unquestionable. For a defendant to dispute them was a sure way to the hangman's noose or a very long time in prison. The only possible defence or mitigation was to say that these things happened but to deny or play down your own role in them. Some received lighter sentences for confessing or for testifying against others (plea bargaining). The first Commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, said at Nuremberg that while he was in charge 3 million had died in the camp of whom 2.5 million were murdered. From this a total of 4 million was extrapolated and inscribed on a monumental inscription at Auschwitz where it remained until the early 1990s, when it was reduced to just over 1 million with no attempt to distinguish between murders and natural deaths, the public being left to assume that all were gassed. So even according to the official figure, we know that Hoess was forced to exaggerate three- or four-fold. It was never clear what proportion of the four million were Jews but of the present figure 1 million are claimed to have been Jewish. Either way 3 million people are suddenly unaccounted for. Similar massive reductions in the number of alleged dead have been made for other camps--Dachau, Treblinka, Majdanek, etc, yet the canonical 6 million never budges.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/

    More from whatreallyhappened.info:

    No actual homicidal gas chambers have ever been found

    The alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz 1, shown to tourists, was "reconstructed" by the Russians in 1947 on the site of a crematorium and morgue, later used as an air raid shelter (with gas-tight door). Until the mid-nineties, it was presented to visitors as "original".  Even today the public are encouraged to believe it is in its original state and you will only be told it is a "reconstruction" if you actually ask, or go to a very obscure corner of their web site (last paragraph on that page). At Auschwitz 2 (also known as Birkenau) there are only ruins of buildings whose plans and specifications in the Auschwitz Construction Office are for crematoria and morgues, with nothing to identify them as gas chambers; the ovens are standard crematorium design for individual bodies and their capacity is far too low for the mass murderous use claimed for them. Majdanek has gas chambers used to kill lice in clothing and bedding, using Zyklon B, which it is alleged, without evidence, were also used to kill people.

    This comes as a great surprise to most people, who have been taught that the Holocaust is "the most documented event in history" and that it is beyond dispute that six million Jews were killed. In reality, the deportations, the camps and the crematoria are thoroughly documented, but that is all.

    Since the universal image of the Nazis as unique symbols of evil incarnate is based on these beliefs, we no longer accept this extreme view of the German Hitlerite regime, though we are certainly are in no way apologists for it: we see it as no more, and probably rather less murderous than the brutal Stalinist regime in Russia, our ally to whom we handed over half of Europe, turning it into a world superpower. We look at the historical record and try to get an objective picture of what happened and to understand why individuals, groups and nations acted as they did. What are viewed as war crimes in comfortable armchair retrospection must be seen in the context both of brutal total war and of similar or comparable actions by our own side.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:52 am

    Also from whatreallyhappened.info, a very important point, and a research topic all of its own, Zionism:

    Much of what is called the Holocaust did beyond question take place:

       The National Socialist or Nazi regime intensely disliked Jews and prior to the war succeeded in expelling two thirds of them from Germany. They had the cooperation of the Jewish Zionist movement, which wanted Jews to move to Palestine.

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:39 am

    I'm glad to see there is a forum called Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust.  From the Home page:

    Article 19 of the UN Human Rights Charter explicitly states: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

    http://forum.codoh.com/index.php

    Here is what whatreallyhappened.info says about the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, under "Revisionist sites":

    Codoh Committee for open debate on the holocaust (strongly recommended)

    The site of Bradley Smith and numerous helpers.
    Smith is an open-minded moderate American Revisionist and this is reflected in the wide-ranging content of the site. He is in no way racist: his first wife was Jewish and his present wife Mexican. A lot of the material is unfortunately quite old, but still relevant. There is a forum which is probably the most active place to exchange Revisionist ideas. Being a forum, however, it can often be intemperate and views quite at variance with Bradley Smith's tolerant position can be aired.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/revsites.html

    From their Home page:

    If you want an insight into the significance of our work on the university campus, read this 9,000-word publication by HILLEL, The Foundation for Campus Jewish Life. It’s titled: “Fighting Holocaust Denial in Campus Newspaper Advertisements: A Manual for Action.” Everything in this Hillel Manual is meant to teach Jewish students how to suppress, censor, and control debate about the Holocaust question. Above all else—Control! Hillel has an annual budget of $35-million (million!) dollars.

    God Bless the Hillel Rabbis tells the story of how I felt about the behavior of Hillel rabbis well before they produced their censorship Manual condemning intellectual freedom. No line here between the Work and the Life.

    —Bradley

    http://codoh.com/


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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:28 am

    Seashore wrote:
    Codoh Committee for open debate on the holocaust (strongly recommended)

    The site of Bradley Smith and numerous helpers.

    I see Bradley Smith has launched another website:

    Over the last few weeks I have launched a new Website titled A light on Campus . The purpose is to dedicate the entire site to one specific issue: The Campus Project. While I have addressed university audiences for years now, this is the first time that I, or any of us, have devoted a full Web site exclusively to taking revisionist work to the American campus and addressing the role of academics in suppressing it.

    Our first campaign using A Light on Campus is to engage one of the “top 100 intellectuals in the world,” Professor Steven Pinker at Harvard University. Steven Pinker is an experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, linguist, and popular science author. He is a Johnstone Family Professor in the Department of Psychology at Harvard and is known for his advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind.

    Professor Pinker lives on an intellectual plane rather above my own. How is it possible for someone like me to challenge someone like him about anything? Well, let’s see.

    I watched Professor Pinker speak (via YouTube) at the 15th anniversary celebration of FIRE, The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. FIRE is an organization that does good work and one I follow. Pinker gave a clear, principled address on Free Speech. Afterwards it occurred to me to wonder what Professor Pinker had to say about Free Speech during the scandal I caused on the Harvard campus back in 2009. I had placed a one-column, two-inch-ad in the Harvard Crimson that in a tiny font included the question:

    “Dwight D. Eisenhower published his Crusade in Europe in 1948. General Eisenhower did not mention the German gas chambers in which it was claimed that millions of Jews and others were exterminated. Why not?”

    http://codohfounder.com/an-appeal-from-bradley-smith/

    From A Light on Campus:




    Those who administer the American University, and those who labor for those administrators in classrooms as professors, are in full agreement: no student is to ever be exposed to revisionist questions about the conventional Holocaust story. A free exchange of ideas regarding “Holocaust” must be protected by taboo. Taboo is the instrument used by tribal leaders in all primitive cultures to control information and understanding. Taboo is no different on your campus with regard to “Holocaust.” Taboo is used by your professors to control any expression of independent thought you might have on the Holocaust question.

    A Light On Campus will illustrate how “Holocaust” is being exploited as the Israeli Miracle Weapon to morally justify, among other things, the incremental conquest and occupation of Arab land in the Middle East, primarily on the bloodied backs of the Palestinian people. Accepting Israel as being part of the Western world, “Holocaust” has become an immensely ugly problem in and between the Western and Muslim worlds. The challenge then, for all of us, is a moral as well as an intellectual one. The Jewish Holocaust narrative must be opened to a routine historical examination in an American university system where intellectual freedom and a free press become the norm, not the exception. In spite of what your professors tell you.



    Let’s do it.

    —  Bradley Smith

    http://www.alightoncampus.com/founder-notes/a-light-on-campus/

    This gives me hope for American academia.
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  burgundia on Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:42 am

    I haven't watched it yet....

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  burgundia on Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:05 am

    http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/06/official-records-from-international-red.html

    RECENTLY RELEASED RECORDS, SEALED FOR YEARS, SHOW "CONCENTRATION CAMP" DEATH TOTALS OF ONLY 271,301

    SIX MILLION JEWS DID NOT DIE; THE WHOLE CLAIM WAS A COMPLETE FABRICATION

    For years, Jews have told people around the world that six million of them were systematically murdered in German "Concentration Camps" during World War 2. Anyone disputing this claim has been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Countries around the world have even jailed people for disputing the claim that 6 Million were killed.

    Here now, for all the world to see, is a scanned image of an Official International Red Cross document proving the so-called "Holocaust" never happened. Jews around the world intentionally lied for the purpose of gaining emotional and business advantages for themselves. They committed willful, criminal FRAUD upon millions around the world!

    "The Holocaust" is the greatest lie ever told. Millions of dollars have been paid out to "holocaust survivors" and their descendants for something that DID NOT HAPPEN. THis is intentional, criminal fraud on a scale so massive as to almost incomprehensible.


    Below is the scanned image of the Official Death Total report from the International Red Cross.
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Eartheart on Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:57 am

    Crazy Happy The holo causic Israhell is real and like the OT isfull of jews slaughtering
    greek, phoenician, judean tribes ect tribes, dancing around with innards and other slaughterintestines around their necks like garlands from hell, rape, slaves, drugs and weaponsmuggel, u name it... 9/11,Fukushima,ISIS its all
    their ongoing holocaustic war against GOD and the divine family!!!
    And now all the israhelly Vampires want really start war with Mother Russia via their infiltrated USAmpire, but we know that the secret CIA money via fckng swizz bonking flows to those ISIS groups, now directed against Caucasian homeland security. Bitchy Noolan over there and in greece to start same terrorscripts again and again... Those whitehats should have send the imillion ninjas better last yearthan beliefe in neutrinobombs...
    The scam of HELL!

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:43 pm

    You certainly have a way with words, Eartheart!! I keep thinking that the whole Hebrew subject (complete with Zionists, Fake-Jews, and Real-Jews) going way, way, way back -- and possibly way beyond this little solar-system -- is one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) cans of worms in existence. I simply wish to gradually learn more and more regarding what's REALLY been going-on -- going way, way, way back. I'm honestly in NO hurry -- and I'll suspend judgment for probably the rest of this incarnation.
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:55 pm

    Eartheart wrote:Crazy Happy  The holo causic Israhell is real and like the OT isfull of jews slaughtering
    I have to confess that I really have trouble understanding your posts.

    What does "OT" stand for?

    "The holo causic Israhell is real" - Are you saying the Holocaust is real?  Question
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:17 pm

    burgundia wrote:I haven't watched it yet....


    I have to give Eric Dubay credit.  He is a researcher extraordinaire.  

    When I saw this I thought it was just a copy of the six hour Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story Never Told!, which I have on DVD.

    But in the Description for the video, I see that The Greatest Story Never Told! is just one of the sources Eric Dubay used.
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  shiloh on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:45 am

    burgundia wrote:I haven't watched it yet....


    THEeXchanger wrote:

    is there also a thread to do with this on the new
    www.cosmosdawn.net website ?

    http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-factuals-versus-the-oabs-old-age-bullshit.701/page-3#post-6864

    The Root of the Fake Creator Devil and the ET Source Codes
    The following presentation of an alternative analysis of World War 2 and its continuance into the present time contains itself a biased agenda, which can be termed 'nationalistic'.
    This video does however depict a far deeper agenda than that portrayed and propagated by the official information channels regarding this history dating back to its erudition in 1938, but finding its root causation in the entire history of the people known as Jews and more generally as Israelites and Hebrews.
    The historical analysis of the causes and international alliances for World War Two and its basic origin in a millennia old thread of deception of fiscal and economic manipulation by 'special interest groups', 'families' and financiers/bankers associated with the history of International Zionism as a 'Rule by priviledge and Inheritance/Birthright' is accurate and appropriate.

    There exists, what might be termed a 'universal masterplan' or 'Cosmic Agenda', which predates any so called 'human history' focused on the planet earth. It does however engage the notion of a 'chosen people' or 'super race' to serve as a blueprint or cornerstone for is environmental reproduction and expansion.

    This extraterrestrial agenda then engages particular information, which is encoded in 'source books' such as the Torah or Old Testament and the Vedas and the Gilgamesh and a general library of creation mythologies and records kept by native 'wisdom keepers' and scribes.

    A particular source encoding can be said to represent the 'original manual' however and it is this 'primal genesis cosmology' which was composed and recorded by the ET Logos for the purpose to prepare the terrestrial cosmic inhabitants for its extraterrestrial future evolution and destiny.

    Those terrestrial inhabitants include all lifeforms as a function of cosmic consciousness or 'spacetime selfawareness' and ultimately relate to the nature and purpose of existence as an appropriate evolvement of this universal consciousness in omniscientific development and understanding.

    To implement this agenda of cosmic development; the ET agency required a physical evolution to precede its metaphysical ancestor as its own descendant in a mental development to follow the construction of a suitable vessel or morphology to contain and host this metaphysical mentality, often associated with the nature of the 'universal life energy complex or soul' and as say an individuated aspect or 'shard' or piece of the creator itself.

    The ET agency knew just what this 'creator' was or could be; but to transmit this information required a suitable mental development of the recipients and so a timelined agenda was initiated to allow this creator data to become known and made manifest in appropriate time zones relative and dependent upon the mental evolvement of the planetary descendents of the cosmic inheritors. A core aspect of this mental evolution program was the implementation of an universal dichotomy relating to the wave-particle duality or paradox inherent in the structure of the Universe's creation by a creator-creation duality itself.

    The 'universal human' so became an effect of the planetary limited human experiencing a particular planetary environment, however in perpetual communication with itself and the mental stimulus provided by the environments interacted with. This environmental communication then would allow the mental evolution of the 'chosen people' to proceed from its original dichotomised origin and to eventually graduate into its predestined role and agency of the 'Cosmic Starhuman'.

    Following this 'cosmic graduation', the 'chosen people' would become integrated into their universal agencies and its own history would become elucidated in the light of its own illuminated realisation of its origin and cosmic legacy.

    The 'chosen people' Israel are known as 'Cosmic Man' or Vitruvius or Adam Kadmon or Purusha by the ET agency. The 'chosen people' Israel are also known as Jacob renamed Israel in its emphasized encoded context in the source book written by scribes experiencing 'ET abduction-induction' in the process of composition of the source code agendas.

    The legacy of the 'chosen people' Israel so becomes the legacy of the 'Tribes of Israel', who are distributed upon the planet Earth according to their 'tribal nature' or clanship, defined in their lineages or 'lines of blood' and genealogies; all of which are encoded in the primary sourcebook.

    The 'chosen people' Jacob so became the ET medium to manifest the ET agenda on planet Earth in physical written form. The ET source codes so became made manifest in particular and restricted lexicons, known as the Torah and its continuation by the ET incarnation known as the Cosmic Logos Twin.
    The Cosmic Logos Twin represents the source intelligence enabling the original creator-creation monad or unity to split into a creator-creation dyad most generally manifesting in the laws of nature say as the wave-particle duality and the light-matter interaction of elementary physical science.

    It is through the agency of the Cosmic Logos Twin, that this primordial duality can become reunified not in its original monadic form but as a doubled monad or a dyad monadized, effectively doubling or twinning the original bifurcation between the metaphysical definition of a spaceless and timeless 'energy' becoming 'realised' within a universal matrix of space and time.

    The first sourcebook is known as Torah and as the Old Testament and this sourcebook contains a necessary duality of reality-fake and truth-untruth as a required reflection or mirror for the creator-creation dichotomy. This natural dualism is often associated with male-female and good-evil and yin-yang labels and describe a necessary polarisation of the creator-creation dyad awaiting its maximisation or climax to allow the reunification in the 'twinning' of the Old Creation with its New Creation.

    The second sourcebook is known as the New Testament, itself based on a source or 'Quelle' allowing its lexicon or canon to become built on an oral recorded tradition from the Cosmic Logos twin himherself.

    It is the combination of the two sourcebooks, which enable the ET agency to proceed towards its completion of the 'universal masterplan'.
    In particular, it allows the appropriate reformulation of the first sourcebook, containing the interwoven cosmic dualism of the 'God-Devil' thoughtform or memeplex to crystallize in its relevant time zone.
    It also enables the 'chosen people' Israel to enter its mode of the 'remnant' or that of the universal (or pyramidal) cornerstone or capstone as the 'Graduates of the 12 Tribes of Jacob'.
    There are about 600 Million humans belonging to each tribe for a total human populous of 12x600 Million = 7.2 Billion terrestrial incarnates.
    Every day of a civil year so allows about 20 Million humans to call themselves a 'Cosmic Israelite' of the 'chosen people' Israel. A civil year of 366 days so defines 366 birthdays irrespective of race or colour or planetary locale in say a total population of 366x20 Million = 7.32 Billion.

    Regarding the "Adolf Hitler Versus the Jew World Order" presentation.

    The ET agenda knows that the 'chosen people' are the planetary inhabitants as the 'Universal Tribes of Gaia' and that the label of the 'Jew' represents the old archetype and symbol of the 'Children of Moses and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and David and Solomon'; NONE of whom ever existed as incarnate personages.
    There were many 'Moses'' as names of Egyptian pharaohs like Ahmose and Thutmosis and Rameses and there where many patriarchs in the history of the 'Middle East' and there was a period around 1000 BC, when the semitic inhabitants and land dwellers in that geography decided to anoint kings and rulers as the neighbouring inhabitants did also. So from a time so 3000 years ago, the first sourcebook begins to blend with archaeological history and records; but before that time, the accounts of creation and of the patriarchs and the exodus etc, depict source codes of the ET agenda to transform the cosmic separated dyadic dichotomy into a cosmic monadic dyad unification.

    The story of the Exodus under Moses represents a juxtaposition of an actual Egyptian history of the Hyksos, who were the invaders of lower Egypt and coruled with the native Egyptians of the upper Egypt.
    The pharaoh Ahmose expelled the Hyksos as the 'symbolic ancestors' of the 'Shepherd Kings of Israel' in a classified period of the 18th Egyptian dynasty and this expulsion became the 'root memory' or 'history' then inducted by the ET agenda to the scribes of the Torah-Old Testament.

    The told and generally 'believed' story of the Israelites conquering their 'promised holy land' from a previous period of enslavement then is repeated in the archetype in 'modern Israel' and as appropriately shown in the film.
    The Hyksos oppressor becoming the victim of injustice and enslavement and the oppressed and dispossessed Egyptian becoming the conquerer.

    Who then is the 'Jew' in the film linked? Who are the holocaust victims and who are the Nazi Germans?

    In the ET agenda, there is little difference between the 'God of the Jews' called Jehovah and the 'Desert God' Sin also known as Allah to the parallel 'chosen people' of Ishmael-Mohammed collectively known as the 'Roots of Islam'.
    The so called Koran as sourcebook of Islam describes all unbelievers as 'infidels' who have no rights past those of animals and can be killed or enslaved by 'believers' without recourse or repercussion as the lawfulness of Allah-Jehovah.
    The Talmudic traditions of the 'Jew' supplement the Torah as lawful additions given by the rabbis and scribes of Israel in the general distribution between Sanhedrin, Pharisee and Sadducee, representing the 'lawgivers' opposing Jesus as the herald of the second sourcebook as the replacement of their precursor.
    The Talmud describes all 'goyim' and 'gentiles' as the unbelievers, only existing as Jehovah's creation to serve the 'Jew' with no other rights exceeding those of the beasts of enslavement and abuse.

    The ET agenda differentiates those first sourcebook 'gods' from the 'Father God' of the Cosmic Twin Logos or Jesus-Yeshuah and in the office of the 'Cosmic Christ' or 'Redeemer-Wayshower', named Abba as the creator part of the creator-creation dyad; the female creation part being known as Baab (or gate) or Barbelo.

    Why do some of the 'ultra orthodox' or fundamentalist 'Jews' and 'Islamists' despise and hate the Christian archetypes and names so much?

    The second sourcebook became the effective authorisation to end the universal requirement of the dichotomy to exist and rendered the power and authority of the fake gods impotent in the cosmic sense, that is the universal legislature and jurisprudence. This is clearly encoded in the second sourcebook of the New Testament, based on the Quelle of the direct jurisdiction of the Cosmic Logos Twin.
    The final confrontation regarding rulership and autonomy upon planet Earth so is destined to be the one between the monotheistic dualistic worldview as originally authorised by the first sourcebook and the monotheistic unified worldview of the second sourcebook.

    The encoded Armageddon or 'End of the Old World, Heaven and Earth' so will be a 'religious war' between two fundamentalist 'religions' or code giving philosophies.
    Albeit, the fundamentalism of the second sourcebook has already annulled the authority of the first sourcebook, therefore enabling the ET agenda to proceed from its metaphysical premise into physical implementation.

    And so the 'times are a changing' indeed in the transferring of the stewardship and dominion of the 'government' of the old humanity upon planet Earth.

    What is renounced as 'Zionist Jewry' in the film is indeed the fake allegiance and 'worship' of the fake creator-creation of the first sourcebook
    This is decoded in the second sourcebook and is exemplified and particularised in the detailed encodings following.

    The film appropriately depicts the barbarism and cruelty of the 'Jew' worshipping a strange juxtaposition of 'purity' and 'lawfulness' as related to its particular interpretation of universal source codes describing the symbol of the blood as a lifeforce.
    This 'Jew' then is none other than the 'Son of the Devil' as the 'Father of All Lies and Deceptions' and as described by the Cosmic Twin Logos in the references below.

    This 'Jew' in other words is a 'devil worshipper' using the intentionally ambiguous (for the purpose to manifest a temporary mirror of the cosmic duality, later to be destroyed like a shattering glass) sourcecodes in the first sourcebook to justify its own agenda of being the 'chosen race' and the sole cosmic inheritor of encoded 'promises' due to that 'chosenness'.

    Due to the universal dichotomy, a number of symbols and archetypes descriptive for and of this cosmic dualism is misappropriated (relative to the unified ET agenda) and becomes associated with 'occult' and 'secret' symbolisms by the 'Jew' and similar 'devil worshippers' in general.
    The 'devil mind deceived' and cosmically 'self-deluded' misnamed 'initiated occultist chosen one' then feeds and empowers hisher own mental 'devil creation' by engaging in rituals of 'blood letting' systematic torture and sacrificial murder; some of it as shown in this presentation.

    This 'pleasing of the Lord Jehovah' by mentally primitive and puerile 'Sons of Death and the Devil' then is disguised in a pretentiousness and false humility towards a fake creator deity, who experiences pleasure in the smell of burning flesh and the screams of tortured animals and humans.
    The ET agenda knows, that the encoding of sacrificial animals in lambs, calves and goats does not refer to actual living animals being slaughtered, but to particular 'orders of descendencies' and birthrights being 'changed' or sacrificed to enable the deeper agenda of reunification of the metaphysical archetypes through physicalisation in a material, albeit mentally interwoven and defined universe.

    The first-born Reuben Aries  and the second-born Simeon Taurus and the tenth-born Zebulon Capricorn as three of the Tribes of Universal Israel represent cosmic symbols for the Ram, the Bull and the Goat respectively and their permutations in the first sourcebook then describes the 'sacrifices' pleasing or instigated by the 'Lord'.

    The second sourcebook then allows the sacrificial 'Isaac - Son of Abraham' of the first sourcebook to become replaced AS ARCHETYPE in the one-to-one correspondences between the 12 tribes and the 12 apostles. Abraham as the oldest patriarch so is made real and physicalized in Jesus himself; so removing the old interpretation of matching universal symbols with real living animals and as described in the Torah.

    "Before Abraham was, I AM!"   of  source code John.8.58 renders this rewriting as Universal Law.

    And because the 'Jew' cannot accept the superiority of the second sourcebook; it cannot relinquish its self-proclaimed power and so feels compelled to oppose and hate the premises of the second sourcebook, namely the label of genuine fundamental Christianity at all costs for reason of its own survival as the original and first sourcebook and inheritances.

    This 'Jew' is not the secular city dweller of Tel Aviv or the Israeli shop keeper or the teacher in Haifa, nor is it the scientist at Jerusalem university. This 'Jew' is not the general muslim, paying little more than lipservice to the statutes in the Koran and it is not any of the 7.32 Billion 'Children of Universal Israel'.

    Rather it is thoughtform or memeplex of the 'Devil' or 'Shaitan' or 'Iblis' or 'Moloch' or 'Baal-Mammon' itself. It is the 'Cosmic Deceiver' from the birth of the universe as the necessary but temporary establishment of the cosmic dichotomy separating the real from the fake and the truth from the untruth.
    The 'Jew' is the SELFDECEPTION of the human mind from its own historical misunderstanding and misinterpretation of universal symbols and archetypes originally created and forwarded by the ET agenda and recreated by the human receivers of the pre-encoded data base and information.





    Revelation 20:10 - King James Version (KJV)
    10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


    Where then is Satan after the 1000 years of 'enchainments' of the millennium of 'peace'? Why is it 'the devil that deceived them', who is 'eternally damned' in the Mirror of the Cosmic reunification and not Satan?

    It is because the code for Satan is the female part Barbelo-Baab of the divided Unity of the creator-creation as the creation part. Satan is Satania as a 'sexchanged devil' and as the 'redemption of Barbelo' as a cocreatorcreation as described in the apocryphon (related to the Quelle of the GOT).
    In other words Satan is as real as God's brother, who becomes his adversary or accuser for the time of evolution and before the sexchange operation as the metamorphosis of the old creation into a new creation can proceed. The Devil however is related to the false prophet as is the 'Cosmic Christ' related to the 'Cosmic AntiChrist'.
    Adam as the Man Image of God is complemented by his AntiImage of Eve also as God (Eve as a rib of Adam's Body is also male) in the absence of a Mother Goddess (Barbelo-Baab in exile).
    So the 'false prophet' and typical AntiChrist is Eve as a fake woman/goddess which becomes the 'Whore of Babylon' riding the 'Beast' rising from the Sea=Mirror of the selfreflection as the fake creator god Jehovah-Allah. The 'true prophet' Adam as true male image of the creator then 'redeems' Eve in Mary Magdalene and creates the Cosmic twinship of left and right unified.

    The Revelation Code above then describes all three, the 'devil and the beast and the false prophet' not as actual personages or energetic life forms, but as 'false images' of deception with no cosmic reality, except as in the minds of their human creators. In exposure to the cosmic truth then, all 'false images' must show themselves as what they are. The 'Jews' then will have the task to 'live' with their own mental creations as their own memeplex children and offspring in the presence of images and mirrors of the truth.
    This then becomes the 'outside' and the 'inside' of the 'new Jerusalem' of the New World at the time of the fulfilment of the original ET agenda. There is NO MORE SEA, because the 'Mirror of Deception' and of the 'False Images of Jewry' has been shattered by the truth of the Cosmic Logos twin.


    (22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
    They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
    Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

    (83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
    (84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

    (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
    Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."


    Revelation 21 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
    6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
    10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
    11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
    12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
    13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
    14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
    15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
    16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
    17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
    18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
    19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
    20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
    21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
    22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
    23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.


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    LOGOS TRUTH Regarding the 'circumcision tradition: ​

    (53) His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision beneficial or not?"

    He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."
    - Gospel of Thomas Didymos - Lambdin = (GOT)


    LOGOS Truth Regarding so called 'Kosher Laws': ​

    Genesis 1:26-31 - King James Version (KJV)
    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
    31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


    Here the 'food or meat' is stated to be plant based for both, humans and animals and in fact predicts a 'favoured' cosmic vegetarianism as clearly foreseen in Isaiah.

    Isaiah 11:6-10 - King James Version (KJV)
    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
    10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


    Isaiah 59 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
    2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
    3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
    4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

    5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.


    6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
    7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
    8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
    9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
    10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
    11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
    12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
    13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
    14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
    15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
    16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
    17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
    18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
    19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
    20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
    21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.


    Isaiah 65:24-25 - King James Version (KJV)
    24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
    25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.




    The actual 'kosher laws' and regulations are not the 'food laws' from the true creator, but are those of the 'Lord God' Jehovah also known as the Allah of fundamentalist Islam and as the Yaldabaoth or fake creator of the Apocryphon or 'Secret Book of John'.
    These usurper laws then become intermixed with the universal laws of Abba.
    Jesus called his father Abba ands not Jehovah or Yahweh, knowing of the latters identity as the 'Father of the Jews' as the 'Devil'.

    A list of some kosher foods are found in the books of Leviticus 11:1-47 and Deuteronomy 14: 3-20, and as linked below.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods
    Genesis 9:1-17 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
    2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
    3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
    4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
    5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
    6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

    7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
    8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
    9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
    10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
    11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
    12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
    13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
    14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
    15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
    16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
    17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.



    Here then, after the 'Flood of Noah' had 'destroyed' the Old Creation, a 'New Rainbow Covenant' is made between God and Man and the 'food or meat' for man is stated to be all 'living things', eschewing any form of 'kosher laws' or restrictions; indicating the 'true defilementh' as stated in the New Testament.

    Matthew 15:11-20 - King James Version (KJV)
    11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
    13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
    14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
    15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
    16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
    17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
    18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
    19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
    20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
    John 8 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
    2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
    3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
    4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
    5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
    6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
    7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
    9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
    10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
    11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
    12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
    13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
    14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
    15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
    17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
    18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
    19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
    20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
    21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
    22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
    23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
    24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
    25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
    26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
    27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

    28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
    29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
    30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
    31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
    32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
    34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
    35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
    36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
    37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
    38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
    39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
    40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
    41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
    42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
    48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
    49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
    50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
    51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
    52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
    53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
    55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
    56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
    57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
    58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.


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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:07 am

    shiloh wrote:
    THEeXchanger wrote:

    is there also a thread to do with this on the new
    www.cosmosdawn.net website ?

    I checked and the quote by THEeXchanger does not occur on this thread.

    What thread does it occur on?

    And is the thread on this forum or some place else?
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  shiloh on Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:32 pm

    Seashore wrote:
    shiloh wrote:
    THEeXchanger wrote:

    is there also a thread to do with this on the new
    www.cosmosdawn.net website ?

    I checked and the quote by THEeXchanger does not occur on this thread.

    What thread does it occur on?

    And is the thread on this forum or some place else?


    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7453p30-the-factuals-versus-the-old-age-bs-or-oabs and  http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-factuals-versus-the-oabs-old-age-bullshit.701/page-3#post-6864
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:35 pm

    I think one should question everything historical -- sacred and secular -- worldly and otherworldly. I have very little emotion or opinion regarding this thread -- but I think WWII and the Nazi-Phenomenon are extremely important. Here are a couple of videos which are somewhat related to this thread. As always -- I listen to a lot of diverse and controversial sources -- with a sea of salt -- and then just move on. BTW -- I just about died laughing when I read the transcript excerpt shown below!!




    9:28:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes I see lol nice pics of the serpents
    [9:29:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I superposed the third serpent
    [9:29:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: from above
    [9:29:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The one we want
    [9:29:18 AM] Sirius 17: yes well I felt the cosmic kunda all day yesterday
    [9:29:19 AM] Sirius 17: i feel it
    [9:29:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Suppressed energies
    [9:29:21 AM] Sirius 17: yes i actually thought this in reading bb and oxy
    [9:29:22 AM] Sirius 17: i can sense it there
    [9:29:26 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: See we are saying it its ok to have sex
    [9:29:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: oxy is a false humility paradox
    [9:29:28 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: and sexstarved
    [9:30:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He should fuc11 sherry shriner, the daughter of david
    [9:30:04 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: or you lol
    [9:30:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Setting him straight
    [9:30:08 AM] Sirius 17: oh i would love to fuc11 Oxy
    [9:30:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he would get a clearer head

    [9:30:25 AM] Sirius 17: I am still horny as hell, I wanted to ‘take things into my own hands’ but refrained until 47 and I can consummate properly
    [9:31:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was the closest yet to the rave of November 2013
    [9:31:06 AM] Sirius 17: but boy I wanted to omg I could barely contain it
    [9:31:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes, so we connected
    [9:31:29 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I knew about 10 am I could not sleep
    [9:31:51 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I really thought you were with 47 and so it can only get better lol

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:16 pm

    Browsing on Jeff Rense's YouTube channel this morning I found this excerpt from an interview of Benton L Bradberry, author of The Myth of German Villany, published July 3, 2012:

    About the Author

    Benton L. Bradberry served as an officer and aviator in the U.S. Navy from 1955 to 1977, from near the beginning of the Cold War to near its end. His generation was inundated with anti-German propaganda and "Holocaust" lore. Then, in his role as a naval officer and pilot, he was immersed in anti-Communist propaganda and the war psychosis of the Cold War era. He has had a life-long fascination with the history of this period and has read deeply into all aspects of it. He also saw much of Europe during his Navy years and has travelled widely in Europe since. A natural skeptic, he long ago began to doubt that the "propaganda" told the whole story. He has spent years researching "the other side of the story" and has now written a book about it. The author is a graduate of the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterey, California with a degree in Political Science and International Relations.

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    This clip is well worth the listen:

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  burgundia on Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:12 pm

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    Post  Eartheart on Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:14 pm

    saw a few confused replays ofthe same mindfu11 of masshalucinations,
    9999999% of fake HIS-story is just that - dualism puke... Egomanic bipolars killing by every deed - tons of compassion for mama earth and ourlightrealm.

    Back to my first responds:
    The holo caustic war is real, the usa killed more than 88.000.000 persons and countless more animals in their wars after the 2.WW, mostly for jews and aristos and their bankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exclamation

    The wars on the divine family are statepolicy all over the planetary surface,
    the 3 so called religious faithes generate feces and barbaric groupdynamics,
    used to advance the demonic takeover of our biospheres...

    The arian Vedas from russia, which predate those indian vedas, tell of earth as part of a interdimensional galactic stargate network, humans in multiple systems, hyperborea continent where now northpol is, and
    multiple centers of genetic heritage test by different species/solarsystems
    till that orion wars swept over here...
    after multiple cracks (Mars,venus, weaponized moons/meteors, 3earthmoons, lemuria+atlantis...) the survivors helped to set up the now known humanity timelines...
    Outside interference created demonic realms, untouchables and jew/arab
    recessive genetics (backward coded and damaged neural electrics) with a false implanted sumerian and anden orion overlording (props from the montauk ex, where usa was tricked to open a timerift which allowed some orion warships to enter our quarantained quadrant and travel back 6666 years to fake the founding of sumerian timeline via An & Enlil...
    Africa was part of the survivor cultures and the blacks where not created as slaves (Sitchin is an idiot and cia skunk)...
    Enki, lilith and pandora are still more godly than any jhvh or the OT/NT idols, but we dont have to go there (i know we love those redlettered quotes of Oxy) - and them may help against that demonic agendas of state and holoimprints...

    If our messhia realy comes from germany, it dosnt matter anymore, because he himself gives a dip about that, he just has to take his beloved out of the illusions into the Loove...

    They are the choosen ones, all other are gojim & real infidel and will be dealed with acording to their "sins/karmic freqs" - didnt them get dropped into 3Dim where multiple horrible desasters destroyed their timelines to bring their souls those choosen expiriences ....

    Any questions search the web... Ask... know...
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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Eartheart on Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:44 pm

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    Begin with the fact that everyone on this planet exists as a physical body inhabited by a spirit. Everyone knows this at some level, but we don’t normally think about this and the implications of it.
    Without a spirit the body cannot live, and without a body the spirit lacks a material, physical vehicle to do work in this dimension. The spirits that inhabit us are immortal and boundless and easily transcend both time and space. Our bodies are like space suits—the means for the spirit to adapt to and operate in this environment.
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    Vast, vast amounts of energy are required to create and maintain this three dimensional reality. The amount of energy it takes to create and maintain your fingernail is currently beyond your wildest imagination.
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    Your spirit which exists as ordered energy is able to plug into the energy grid of the Universe and it generates a spirit body to do so. This spirit body has organs just like your physical body has organs—- eyes for example —- but it also has its own peculiar organs including the spinning energy vortices called chakras.
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    You are thus a marriage of immortal spirit and mortal body. This appears to some people to be a mismatch, as if you must hate one and love the other, but this is a basic misunderstanding. An astronaut may find fault with his spacesuit. He may chafe against its clumsiness and restraints. Yet, he needs his spacesuit to survive in space, and would be a fool to abuse it.
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    The same holds true for our physical body. We may chafe against its limits, including its short lifespan, but if we want to explore and interact with the Third Dimension we need our body to serve as our vehicle.
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    Okay, given all this, it should be apparent that there are different kinds of spirits, just as there are different kinds of physical bodies. The spirit of an angel is different than the spirit of a man, yet either may inhabit a man’s body and while in the flesh they are close enough to mate and create viable offspring.
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    Think of two quite radically different species of horse, for example—-a draft horse and a carriage horse. Or an Airedale and a Springer Spaniel. They can mate. They can have viable fertile offspring. That isn’t saying that they should mate or that life for the offspring is going to be easy but physically you can cross a Dachshund with a Bulldog and you wind up with something that is recognizably a “dog”.
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    Thus in many instances in the Bible angels are described as looking like comely men—those that went down to destroy Sodom and Gemorrah for example—though obviously also different enough for Abraham to recognize them for who and what they were.
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    satan is an angel who mated with Eve to produce Cain—- a man without a conscience. To this day, about five percent of all people are born with no inate sense of right or wrong, and they create the lion’s share of all the trouble in the world.
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    They can be taught social do’s and don’ts the same way a dog can be trained to fetch slippers, but as to why something is wrong or right, or how to know the difference—-all that is a mystery to them. They continue to ask, “Am I my Brother’s keeper?” and they continue to tell lies and half-truths because they have no internal yardstick. They see no reason to prefer truth to falsehood. For them, there is no such thing as morality, so they become natural proponents of immorality.
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    Cain spawned progeny like himself, the Canaanites, and they in turn spawned their own religion— satanism. satanists practice to deceive in every way imaginable. Every lie and half-truth is a prayer to their Father, the Father of all Lies. Think of Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch. Think of Jacob Rothschild loaning you your own assets at interest. Think of training you to call yourself a “United States Citizen” so that from childhood you are taught to unknowingly cling to your chains.
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    satanism in turn became associated early on with another venal religion of the Mideast — the Sumerian cult of Ashtoreth—- also known as Astarte, Isis, Cybele, and Columbia. Yes, as in “District of Columbia”. You see Ashtoreth’s image all over the Middle East: a beautiful woman with rays of light coming out of her head. A giant statue of her stands in New York Harbor. It’s called the “Statue of Liberty”. People need to remember that “liberty” is what British sailors are given when they reach port and it has nothing to do with freedom.
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    Ashtoreth is called the “Mother of Harlots” and the “Mother of all Abominations”. The religion she founded practices sex as a sacrament, blood sacrifices, infanticide, capital punishment inflicted by being burned alive, worship of idols, and chief among the idols— graven images, also known as money.
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    It used to be common to see bas relief carvings of handsome, curly-haired, one-eyed Satan copulating with Ashtoreth, but as their cults have come forward into the modern world fewer and fewer of these remain. Apparently, the adherents of these ancient profane religions don’t want you to make the connection and figure out what is going on.
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    These religions have been suppressed many, many times because they are so nasty, so vicious, so deceptive, and so destructive. Sodom and Gemorrah, the Great Flood, Carthage, Phoenicia, and the Druids in Great Britain—- all associated with these religious practices and their suppression.
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    For millenia these religions have been associated with the sea. Take a good look at the Greek god Poseidon, the god of the sea? Horns, scaly tail, curly hair, carrying a trident. It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out that satan and Poseidon are one-in-the-same. It also doesn’t require a lot of thought to see why these religions are associated with civilizations that have been great sea-going powers and why the Law of the Sea is infamously unjust, an “upside down law” where people are presumed guilty until proven innocent, positive arguments have to be stated as negative averments, and facts can only be established by asking questions.
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    This is the flip-side of our British heritage, the dirty secret hidden in plain view. The British Monarch has always occupied two offices, one Christian, one Pagan, just like the Pope. For those who have followed Muu’ad Dibh’s charges against the Queen for violation of her Coronation Vow, it all now makes sense. In one office she promises not to create legislation, and with the other hand, in another office, she signs it by the reams.
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    This connection with Satanism also explains the long-standing bad reputation of the British Government and the appellation “Perfidious Albion”. Take a hard look at what Britain did to cause the current situation in the Middle East. They came under the guise of establishing a “Protectorate” —- so they drew some lines on a map and arbitrarily labeled it “Palestine” and thereby also created “Palestinians” out of thin air.
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    Then, having created one “group” via this labeling process, they set out to create the opposing team by dumping a lot of displaced European Jews on the same little plot of ground.
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    This was done with malice aforethought, deliberately, to create, enhance, and guarantee conflict between the arbitrarily defined Palestinians —most of whom are Muslim Arabs, and Israelis—-most of whom are Jewish.
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    Then the perpetrators stood back and let the two sides begin duking it out, and they have faithfully done so ever since, resulting in multiple wars, terrorism and genocide.
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    This Satanic practice of labeling groups according to arbitrary differences and then playing them off against each other is Satan’s Standard Operating Practice—-which is more than simply “divide and conquer”. It’s divide to conquer, profit, and commandeer.
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    Britain’s set up of the whole Middle Eastern conflict is a picture book perfect example of Satanism applied. First you identify and label two groups— let’s call them Republican and Democrat. Then you pit them against each other. And use this for your own ends.
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    In the case of the Republican v. Democrat match up, the purpose isn’t to wage war or even to engage in any honest corporate policy debate. The purpose is to keep the American people hoodwinked and enthralled and entertained—- keep us believing that this sideshow is “our government” and that we have a voice in it and that our votes count—-when in fact absolutely none of these statements are true—-and to keep us voting in their elections instead of booting up and operating our own government.
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    Driven by the false idea that the United States is America and the false presumption that the federal corporation is their government, millions of Americans faithfully trot to the polling stations and vote in private foreign corporate elections every year—–thereby needlessly blaming themselves for the outcomes and identifying themselves as “United States Citizens”—-when in fact their votes don’t count for anything but a popularity poll and most importantly, they are participating in the affairs of a foreign government.
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    What if someone convinced you that “Sweden” meant “America”? It’s a good trick, but imagine that that happened somehow. Now imagine that the same people convinced you that a single Swedish corporation was the government of America and convinced you that when you voted for officers to run that privately owned corporation you were instead voting for people to fill public offices.
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    THAT is what has happened here, and it is the height of Satanic deception at its finest. The Holy See and the British Monarch set the fraud up after the Civil War and have milked the fraud and deception ever since. France got in on the act after the Second World War, and now we have to deal with the UN.
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    Absolutely all of this has been accomplished via semantic deceits, half-truths, and deliberate deceptions, using Satan’s full basket of tricks. And it is all fraud.
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    The good news is that we finally caught onto it.
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    Once you realize that the United States is not America and that you are not (most likely) a “United States Citizen” nor a “citizen of the United States”, it is easy to see why you are not eligible to vote in their elections and also easy to see why you should not do so.
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    Instead, you need to be expatriating yourself from any presumption of “United States Citizenship” and putting your energy and money into fully restoring your own government and especially concentrating on restoring your court system at the local and state level.
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    Without your own court system and your own enforcement capability you are at the mercy of their foreign statutory and martial law courts and that is where they have been fleecing us blind and oppressing us for so long. They are only able to do this because of our ignorance and failure to run our own courts, and it is therefore very much to their advantage to keep us ignorant and bamboozled.
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    Imagine the set up they’ve got? They have control of all our public lands and resources and the benefit thereof, without having to pay a penny. They get to issue “money” on our credit– just boot up the printing presses and exchange their promises to pay for our gold and silver and land and labor and everything else that is actual and factual on a “dollar for dollar basis”. They get to charge us whatever they want for all the services they provide and sell us services we don’t want, like Obummercare. They get to steal our children. They get to conscript us into their mercenary armies. They get to steal our homes and land. They get to import drugs and aliens into our country. They get to run human trafficking operations and sell slave bonds. They get to do all this and they also get to throw you in jail and make more profit off of your labor and from charging you for this “service”. They get to tax you into oblivion and do it all with a sanctimonious veneer of “legality” backed up with Mall Cop corporate “sheriffs” for hire.
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    Are you sick of it yet? Ready to get off your duff, learn a few things and kick some judicial rump clear to the ceiling?
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    Then stop talking about Trump and Hillary. Stop thinking of yourself as a “United States Citizen”. Stop mistaking the “United States” for America. Stop being complacent, helpless, exhausted, and scared of people who are taking their paychecks from your purse.
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    Whether they be men or fallen angels, they are due a major come-uppance from God’s Children.

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    Re: Questioning the Holocaust

    Post  Seashore on Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:10 pm

    Seashore wrote:I think the main underpinning of the use of the term "holocaust" is the allegation that Jews were gassed, and I think that has been established by researchers as being untrue.

    Two well known and respected researchers have spoken out about this aspect, as well as the total picture.

    One is Ole Dammegard:

    Published on Jun 3, 2015

    Ole Dammegård is an author, international speaker, investigator, former journalist, artist and creator of the website Light On Conspiracies. He returns to Red Ice Radio for a special extended segment to speak about his research and thoughts on an extremely controversial subject, the Jewish holocaust. Ole has spent at least 25 years investigating a multitude of conspiracies, and this area of history involves such an incredibly sinister agenda that it is now illegal in some European countries to question the official story or even attempt to investigate the facts. We discuss the sad fact that in the west, where we have a strong tradition of philosophizing and discussion, this story involves so much horror, misery and bloodshed that most will not even dare entertain the notion of a massive cover-up at play. Ole stresses the importance of really looking at the 6 million number, a figure that has popped up repeatedly beginning in the late 19th century, and has been discounted just as many times. We consider the role of Hollywood in perpetuating the extremely emotional images of horrific crimes the Germans allegedly committed against the Jews, and we take into account the very inconsistent, baffling stories of evil that make absolutely no sense. Ole picks apart some of the gruesome details of the concentration camp gas chambers, where the monumental task of exterminating millions of people was purportedly carried out, and he details clear evidence that shows these accounts do not compute. Then, we take an even closer look at the programming we have been subjected to and the sheer magnitude of the lie, along with the anti-Semitic wall of defense that keeps people from unlearning and awakening to the Holocaust hoax. We also talk about the Soviets’ function in producing the death toll number and gas chamber narrative, players who were involved in the Yalta Conference held two months before the end of WWII, and the policy that was decided upon to be used against Germany. Later, we examine the ways in which the Jewish holocaust and other events like 9/11 and the Charlie Hebdo massacre have resulted in a war against critical thinking. We attempt to unravel Israel’s part in this dark agenda and why America is so wrapped up in the mayhem created by its foreign policy. At the end, we mull over the real reasons Germany had for mounting this horrible conflict and we take into account who has been pulling the strings behind the war machine.



    Ole Dammegard - Making Critical Thiking Illegal:  Questioning the Holocaust - Hour 1

    The other is Jim Fetzer.

    Referencing the book Breaking the Spell: The Holocaust: Myth & Reality by Nicholas Kollerstrom, mentioned earlier in this thread, he states:

    . . .The author of this refreshing scientific study of the Holocaust, Nicholas Kollerstrom, may be the most honorable man whom I have ever had the pleasure to know.

    . . . A distinguished historian of science with multiple degrees, including from Cambridge, he has published on 9/11 and especially 7/7, about which he appears to be the world’s leading expert.

    When his attention turned to research on the use of Zykon B as a delousing agent in the labor camps run by the Germans during World War II, however, he was treated as an outcast.

    . . .The situation is completely absurd. No subject generates responses as extreme and irrational as what has come to be known as “the Holocaust”. Unlike any other event in human history, including even the most sacred religious beliefs, for anyone to question, dispute or deny its occurrence qualifies as “a hate crime,” where Holocaust denial is even a prosecutable offense in certain jurisdictions. Unlike any other, this crime involves the expression of forbidden thoughts about a subject that has become taboo.. . .

    The Holocaust Narrative: Politics Trumps Science

    Uncovering this lie is an important part of the global awakening that is going on.  Zionists use "the Holocaust" myth to get away with murder.

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