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    Sigmund Freud continued. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud Jacques Lacan approached psychoanalysis through linguistics and literature. Lacan believed that Freud's essential work had been done prior to 1905 and concerned the interpretation of dreams, neurotic symptoms, and slips, which had been based on a revolutionary way of understanding language and its relation to experience and subjectivity, and that ego psychology and object relations theory were based upon misreadings of Freud's work. For Lacan, the determinative dimension of human experience is neither the self (as in ego psychology) nor relations with others (as in object relations theory), but language. Lacan saw desire as more important than need and considered it necessarily ungratifiable.[158]

    Wilhelm Reich developed ideas that Freud had developed at the beginning of his psychoanalytic investigation but then superseded but never finally discarded. These were the concept of the Actualneurosis and a theory of anxiety based upon the idea of dammed-up libido. In Freud's original view, what really happened to a person (the "actual") determined the resulting neurotic disposition. Freud applied that idea both to infants and to adults. In the former case, seductions were sought as the causes of later neuroses and in the latter incomplete sexual release. Unlike Freud, Reich retained the idea that actual experience, especially sexual experience, was of key significance. By the 1920s, Reich had "taken Freud's original ideas about sexual release to the point of specifying the orgasm as the criteria of healthy function." Reich was also "developing his ideas about character into a form that would later take shape, first as "muscular armour", and eventually as a transducer of universal biological energy, the "orgone"."[157]

    Fritz Perls, who helped to develop Gestalt therapy, was influenced by Reich, Jung and Freud. The key idea of gestalt therapy is that Freud overlooked the structure of awareness, "an active process that moves toward the construction of organized meaningful wholes... between an organism and its environment." These wholes, called gestalts, are "patterns involving all the layers of organismic function – thought, feeling, and activity." Neurosis is seen as splitting in the formation of gestalts, and anxiety as the organism sensing "the struggle towards its creative unification." Gestalt therapy attempts to cure patients through placing them in contact with "immediate organismic needs." Perls rejected the verbal approach of classical psychoanalysis; talking in gestalt therapy serves the purpose of self-expression rather than gaining self-knowledge. Gestalt therapy usually takes place in groups, and in concentrated "workshops" rather than being spread out over a long period of time; it has been extended into new forms of communal living.[157]

    Arthur Janov's primal therapy, which has been an influential post-Freudian psychotherapy, resembles psychoanalytic therapy in its emphasis on early childhood experience, but nevertheless has profound differences with it. While Janov's theory is akin to Freud's early idea of Actualneurosis, he does not have a dynamic psychology but a nature psychology like that of Reich or Perls, in which need is primary while wish is derivative and dispensable when need is met. Despite its surface similarity to Freud's ideas, Janov's theory lacks a strictly psychological account of the unconscious and belief in infantile sexuality. While for Freud there was a hierarchy of danger situations, for Janov the key event in the child's life is awareness that the parents do not love it.[157] Janov writes that primal therapy has in some ways returned to Freud's early ideas and techniques.[159]

    Frederick Crews considers Freud the key influence upon "champions of survivorship" such as Ellen Bass and Laura Davis, co-authors of The Courage to Heal (1988), although in his view they are indebted not to classic psychoanalysis but to "the pre-psychoanalytic Freud, the one who supposedly took pity on his hysterical patients, found that they were all harboring memories of early abuse... and cured them by unknotting their repression." Crews sees Freud as having anticipated the recovered memory movement's "puritanical alarmism" by emphasizing "mechanical cause-and-effect relations between symptomatology and the premature stimulation of one body zone or another", and with pioneering its "technique of thematically matching a patient's symptom with a sexually symmetrical 'memory.'" Crews believes that Freud's confidence in accurate recall of early memories anticipates the theories of recovered memory therapists such as Lenore Terr, which in his view have led to people being wrongfully imprisoned or involved in litigation.[160]

    Though there have been predictions of a progressive decline in support for psychodynamic therapies,[161] there is a body of research findings which support their efficacy in treating a wide range of psychological disorders.[162]

    Research projects designed to test Freud's theories empirically have led to a vast literature on the topic.[163] Seymour Fisher and Roger P. Greenberg concluded in 1977 that some of Freud's concepts were supported by empirical evidence. Their analysis of research literature supported Freud's concepts of oral and anal personality constellations, his account of the role of Oedipal factors in certain aspects of male personality functioning, his formulations about the relatively greater concern about loss of love in women's as compared to men's personality economy, and his views about the instigating effects of homosexual anxieties on the formation of paranoid delusions. They also found limited and equivocal support for Freud's theories about the development of homosexuality. They found that several of Freud's other theories, including his portrayal of dreams as primarily containers of secret, unconscious wishes, as well as some of his views about the psychodynamics of women, were either not supported or contradicted by research. Reviewing the issues again in 1996, they concluded that much experimental data relevant to Freud's work exists, and supports some of his major ideas and theories.[164] Fisher and Greenberg's similar conclusions in their more extensive earlier volume on experimental studies[165] have been strongly criticised for alleged methodological deficiencies by Paul Kline, who writes that they "accept results at their face value with almost no consideration of methodological adequacy",[166] and by Edward Erwin.[167]

    Other viewpoints include those of Hans Eysenck, who writes in Decline and Fall of the Freudian Empire (1985) that Freud set back the study of psychology and psychiatry "by something like fifty years or more",[168] and Malcolm Macmillan, who concludes in Freud Evaluated (1991) that "Freud's method is not capable of yielding objective data about mental processes".[169] Morris Eagle states that it has been "demonstrated quite conclusively that because of the epistemologically contaminated status of clinical data derived from the clinical situation, such data have questionable probative value in the testing of psychoanalytic hypotheses".[170] Richard Webster, in Why Freud Was Wrong (1995), called psychoanalysis perhaps the most complex and successful pseudoscience in history.[171] Crews believes that psychoanalysis has no scientific or therapeutic merit.[172]

    I.B. Cohen regards Freud's Interpretation of Dreams as a revolutionary work of science, the last such work to be published in book form.[173] In contrast Allan Hobson believes that Freud, by rhetorically discrediting 19th century investigators of dreams such as Alfred Maury and the Marquis de Hervey de Saint-Denis at a time when study of the physiology of the brain was only beginning, interrupted the development of scientific dream theory for half a century.[174] The dream researcher G. William Domhoff has disputed claims of Freudian dream theory being validated.[175]

    Karl Popper, who argued that all proper scientific theories must be potentially falsifiable, claimed that Freud's psychoanalytic theories were presented in unfalsifiable form, meaning that no experiment could ever disprove them.[176] Adolf Grünbaum, in The Foundations of Psychoanalysis (1984), has argued that Popper was mistaken and that many of Freud's theories are empirically testable, a verdict with which others such as Eysenck agree.[177][178] The philosopher Donald Levy agrees with Grünbaum's rejection of Popper’s unfalsifiability thesis as applied to Freud’s theories but disputes his contention that only therapeutic success is the empirical basis on which they stand or fall, arguing that a much wider range of empirical evidence can be adduced if clinical case material is taken into consideration.[179]

    In a study of psychoanalysis in the United States, Nathan Hale reported on the "decline of psychoanalysis in psychiatry" during the years 1965-1985.[180] The continuation of this trend was noted by Alan Stone: "As academic psychology becomes more 'scientific' and psychiatry more biological, psychoanalysis is being brushed aside."[181] Paul Stepansky, while noting that psychoanalysis remains influential in the humanities, records the "vanishingly small number of psychiatric residents who choose to pursue psychoanalytic training" and the "nonanalytic backgrounds of psychiatric chairpersons at major universities" among the evidence he cites for his conclusion that "Such historical trends attest to the marginalisation of psychoanalysis within American psychiatry."[182] Nonetheless Freud was ranked as the third most cited psychologist of the 20th century, according to a Review of General Psychology survey of American psychologists and psychology texts, published in 2002.[183] It is also claimed that in moving beyond the "orthodoxy of the not so distant past...new ideas and new research has led to an intense reawakening of interest in psychoanalysis from neighbouring disciplines ranging from the humanities to neuroscience and including the non-analytic therapies”.[184]

    Research in the emerging field of neuro-psychoanalysis, founded by neuroscientist and psychoanalyst Mark Solms,[185] has proved controversial with some psychoanalysts criticising the very concept itself.[186] Solms and his colleagues have argued for neuro-scientific findings being "broadly consistent" with Freudian theories pointing out brain structures relating to Freudian concepts such as libido, drives, the unconscious, and repression.[187][188] Neuroscientists who have endorsed Freud’s work include David Eagleman who believes that Freud "transformed psychiatry" by providing " the first exploration of the way in which hidden states of the brain participate in driving thought and behavior"[189] and Nobel laureate Eric Kandel who argues that "psychoanalysis still represents the most coherent and intellectually satisfying view of the mind."[190]

    Psychoanalysis has been interpreted as both radical and conservative. By the 1940s, it had come to be seen as conservative by the European and American intellectual community. Critics outside the psychoanalytic movement, whether on the political left or right, saw Freud as a conservative. Fromm had argued that several aspects of psychoanalytic theory served the interests of political reaction in his The Fear of Freedom (1942), an assessment confirmed by sympathetic writers on the right. In Freud: The Mind of the Moralist (1959), Philip Rieff portrayed Freud as a man who urged men to make the best of an inevitably unhappy fate, and admirable for that reason. In the 1950s, Herbert Marcuse challenged the then prevailing interpretation of Freud as a conservative in Eros and Civilization (1955), as did Lionel Trilling in Freud and the Crisis of Our Culture and Norman O. Brown in Life Against Death (1959).[191] Eros and Civilization helped make the idea that Freud and Marx were addressing similar questions from different perspectives credible to the left. Marcuse criticized neo-Freudian revisionism for discarding seemingly pessimistic theories such as the death instinct, arguing that they could be turned in a utopian direction. Freud's theories also influenced the Frankfurt School and critical theory as a whole.[192]

    Freud has been compared to Marx by Reich, who saw Freud's importance for psychiatry as parallel to that of Marx for economics,[193] and by Paul Robinson, who sees Freud as a revolutionary whose contributions to twentieth century thought are comparable in importance to Marx's contributions to nineteenth century thought.[194] Fromm calls Freud, Marx, and Einstein the "architects of the modern age", but rejects the idea that Marx and Freud were equally significant, arguing that Marx was both far more historically important and a finer thinker. Fromm nevertheless credits Freud with permanently changing the way human nature is understood.[195] Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari write in Anti-Oedipus (1972) that psychoanalysis resembles the Russian Revolution in that it became corrupted almost from the beginning. They believe this began with Freud's development of the theory of the Oedipus complex, which they see as idealist.[196]

    Jean-Paul Sartre critiques Freud's theory of the unconscious in Being and Nothingness (1943), claiming that consciousness is essentially self-conscious. Sartre also attempts to adapt some of Freud's ideas to his own account of human life, and thereby develop an "existential psychoanalysis" in which causal categories are replaced by teleological categories.[197] Maurice Merleau-Ponty considers Freud to be one of the anticipators of phenomenology,[198] while Theodor W. Adorno considers Edmund Husserl, the founder of phenomenology, to be Freud's philosophical opposite, writing that Husserl's polemic against psychologism could have been directed against psychoanalysis.[199] Paul Ricœur sees Freud as a master of the "school of suspicion", alongside Marx and Nietzsche.[200] Ricœur and Jürgen Habermas have helped create a "hermeneutic version of Freud", one which "claimed him as the most significant progenitor of the shift from an objectifying, empiricist understanding of the human realm to one stressing subjectivity and interpretation."[201] Louis Althusser drew on Freud's concept of overdetermination for his reinterpretation of Marx's Capital.[202] Jean-François Lyotard developed a theory of the unconscious that reverses Freud's account of the dream-work: for Lyotard, the unconscious is a force whose intensity is manifest via disfiguration rather than condensation.[203] Jacques Derrida finds Freud to be both a late figure in the history of western metaphysics and, with Nietzsche and Heidegger, a precursor of his own brand of radicalism.[204]

    Several scholars see Freud as parallel to Plato, writing that they hold nearly the same theory of dreams and have similar theories of the tripartite structure of the human soul or personality, even if the hierarchy between the parts of the soul is almost reversed.[205][206] Ernest Gellner argues that Freud's theories are an inversion of Plato's. Whereas Plato saw a hierarchy inherent in the nature of reality, and relied upon it to validate norms, Freud was a naturalist who could not follow such an approach. Both men's theories drew a parallel between the structure of the human mind and that of society, but while Plato wanted to strengthen the super-ego, which corresponded to the aristocracy, Freud wanted to strengthen the ego, which corresponded to the middle class.[207] Paul Vitz compares Freudian psychoanalysis to Thomism, noting St. Thomas's belief in the existence of an "unconscious consciousness" and his "frequent use of the word and concept 'libido' - sometimes in a more specific sense than Freud, but always in a manner in agreement with the Freudian use." Vitz suggests that Freud may have been unaware that his theory of the unconscious was reminiscent of Aquinas.[26]

    The poem "In Memory of Sigmund Freud" was published by British poet W. H. Auden in his 1940 collection Another Time.[208]

    Literary critic Harold Bloom has been influenced by Freud.[209] Camille Paglia has also been influenced by Freud, whom she calls "Nietzsche's heir" and one of the greatest sexual psychologists in literature, but has rejected the scientific status of his work in her Sexual Personae (1990), writing, "Freud has no rivals among his successors because they think he wrote science, when in fact he wrote art."[210]

    The decline in Freud's reputation has been attributed partly to the revival of feminism.[212] Simone de Beauvoir criticizes psychoanalysis from an existentialist standpoint in The Second Sex (1949), arguing that Freud saw an "original superiority" in the male that is in reality socially induced.[213] Betty Friedan criticizes Freud and what she considered his Victorian view of women in The Feminine Mystique (1963).[211] Freud's concept of penis envy was attacked by Kate Millett, who in Sexual Politics (1970) accused him of confusion and oversights.[214] Naomi Weisstein writes that Freud and his followers erroneously thought that his "years of intensive clinical experience" added up to scientific rigor.[215]

    Freud is also criticized by Shulamith Firestone and Eva Figes. In The Dialectic of Sex (1970), Firestone argues that Freud was a "poet" who produced metaphors rather than literal truths; in her view, Freud, like feminists, recognized that sexuality was the crucial problem of modern life, but ignored the social context and failed to question society itself. Firestone interprets Freudian "metaphors" in terms of the literal facts of power within the family. Figes tries in Patriarchal Attitudes (1970) to place Freud within a "history of ideas". Juliet Mitchell defends Freud against his feminist critics in Psychoanalysis and Feminism (1974), accusing them of misreading him and misunderstanding the implications of psychoanalytic theory for feminism. Mitchell helped introduce English-speaking feminists to Lacan.[213] Mitchell is criticized by Jane Gallop in The Daughter's Seduction (1982). Gallop compliments Mitchell for her criticism of "the distortions inflicted by feminists upon Freud's text and his discoveries", but finds her treatment of Lacanian theory lacking.[216]

    Some French feminists, among them Julia Kristeva and Luce Irigaray, have been influenced by Freud as interpreted by Lacan.[217] Irigaray has produced a theoretical challenge to Freud and Lacan, using their theories against them to put forward a "psychoanalytic explanation for theoretical bias". Irigaray claims that "the cultural unconscious only recognizes the male sex", and "details the effects of this unconscious belief on accounts of the psychology of women".[218]

    Psychologist Carol Gilligan writes that "The penchant of developmental theorists to project a masculine image, and one that appears frightening to women, goes back at least to Freud." She sees Freud's criticism of women's sense of justice reappearing in the work of Jean Piaget and Lawrence Kohlberg. Gilligan notes that Nancy Chodorow, in contrast to Freud, attributes sexual difference not to anatomy but to the fact that male and female children have different early social environments. Chodorow, writing against the masculine bias of psychoanalysis, "replaces Freud's negative and derivative description of female psychology with a positive and direct account of her own."[219]

    Toril Moi has developed a feminist perspective on psychoanalysis proposing that it is a discourse that "attempts to understand the psychic consequences of three universal traumas: the fact that there are others, the fact of sexual difference, and the fact of death".[220] She replaces Freud's term of castration with Stanley Cavell's concept of "victimization" which is a more universal term that applies equally to both sexes.[221] Moi regards this concept of human finitude as a suitable replacement for both castration and sexual difference as the traumatic "discovery of our separate, sexed, mortal existence" and how both men and women come to terms with it.[222]

    Books

    1891 On Aphasia
    1895 Studies on Hysteria (co-authored with Josef Breuer)
    1900 The Interpretation of Dreams
    1901 On Dreams (abridged version of The Interpretation of Dreams)
    1904 The Psychopathology of Everyday Life
    1905 Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious
    1905 Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality
    1907 Delusion and Dream in Jensen's Gradiva
    1910 Five Lectures on Psycho-Analysis
    1910 Leonardo da Vinci, A Memory of His Childhood
    1913 Totem and Taboo: Resemblances between the Psychic Lives of Savages and Neurotics
    1915–17 Introductory Lectures on Psycho-Analysis
    1920 Beyond the Pleasure Principle
    1921 Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego
    1923 The Ego and the Id
    1926 Inhibitions, Symptoms and Anxiety
    1926 The Question of Lay Analysis
    1927 The Future of an Illusion
    1930 Civilization and Its Discontents
    1933 New Introductory Lectures on Psycho-Analysis
    1939 Moses and Monotheism
    1949 An Outline of Psycho-Analysis

    Case histories

    1905 Fragment of an Analysis of a Case of Hysteria (the Dora case history)
    1909 Analysis of a Phobia in a Five-Year-Old Boy (the Little Hans case history)
    1909 Notes upon a Case of Obsessional Neurosis (the Rat Man case history)
    1911 Psycho-Analytic Notes on an Autobiographical Account of a Case of Paranoia (the Schreber case)
    1918 From the History of an Infantile Neurosis (the Wolfman case history)
    1920 The Psychogenesis of a Case of Homosexuality in a Woman[223]
    1923 A Seventeenth-Century Demonological Neurosis (the Haizmann case)

    Papers on sexuality

    1906 My Views on the Part Played by Sexuality in the Aetiology of the Neuroses
    1908 "Civilized" Sexual Morality and Modern Nervous Illness
    1910 A Special Type of Choice of Object made by Men
    1912 Types of Onset of Neurosis
    1912 The Most Prevalent Form of Degradation in Erotic Life
    1913 The Disposition to Obsessional Neurosis
    1915 A Case of Paranoia Running Counter to the Psycho-Analytic Theory of the Disease
    1919 A Child is Being Beaten: A Contribution to the Origin of Sexual Perversions
    1922 Medusa's Head
    1922 Some Neurotic Mechanisms in Jealousy, Paranoia and Homosexuality
    1923 Infantile Genital Organisation
    1924 The Dissolution of the Oedipus Complex
    1925 Some Psychical Consequences of the Anatomical Distinction between the Sexes
    1927 Fetishism
    1931 Female Sexuality
    1938 The Splitting of the Ego in the Process of Defence

    Autobiographical papers

    1914 The History of the Psychoanalytic Movement
    1925 An Autobiographical Study

    The Standard Edition

    The Standard Edition of the Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud. Trans. from the German under the general editorship of James Strachey, in collaboration with Anna Freud, assisted by Alix Strachey, Alan Tyson, and Angela Richards. 24 volumes, London: Hogarth Press and the Institute of Psycho-Analysis, 1953-1974.
    Vol. I Pre-Psycho-Analytic Publications and Unpublished Drafts (1886-1899).
    Vol. II Studies in Hysteria (1893-1895). By Josef Breuer and S. Freud.
    Vol. III Early Psycho-Analytic Publications (1893-1899)
    Vol. IV The Interpretation of Dreams (I) (1900)
    Vol. V The Interpretation of Dreams (II) and On Dreams (1900-1901)
    Vol. VI The Psychopathology of Everyday Life (1901)
    Vol. VII A Case of Hysteria, Three Essays on Sexuality and Other Works (1901-1905)
    Vol. VIII Jokes and their Relation to the Unconscious (1905)
    Vol. IX Jensen's 'Gradiva,' and Other Works (1906-1909)
    Vol. X The Cases of 'Little Hans' and the Rat Man' (1909)
    Vol. XI Five Lectures on Psycho-Analysis, Leonardo and Other Works (1910)
    Vol. XIII Totem and Taboo and Other Works (1913-1914)
    Vol. XIV On the History of the Psycho-Analytic Movement, Papers on Meta-psychology and Other Works (1914-1916)
    Vol. XV Introductory Lectures on Psycho-Analysis (Parts I and II) (1915-1916)
    Vol. XVI Introductory Lectures on Psycho-Analysis (Part III) (1916-1917)
    Vol. XVII An Infantile Neurosis and Other Works (1917-1919)
    Vol. XVIII Beyond the Pleasure Principle, Group Psychology and Other Works (1920-1922)
    Vol. XIX The Ego and the Id and Other Works (1923-1925)
    Vol. XX An Autobiographical Study, Inhibitions, Symptoms and Anxiety, Lay Analysis and Other Works (1925-1926)
    Vol. XXI The Future of an Illusion, Civilization and its Discontents and Other Works (1927-1931)
    Vol. XXII New Introductory Lectures on Psycho-Analysis and Other Works (1932-1936)
    Vol. XXIII Moses and Monotheism, An Outline of Psycho-Analysis and Other Works (1937 - 1939)
    Vol. XXIV Indexes and Bibliographies (Compiled by Angela Richards,1974)

    Correspondence

    Selected Letters of Sigmund Freud to Martha Bernays, Ansh Mehta and Ankit Patel (eds), CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2015. ISBN 978-1-515-13703-0
    Correspondence: Sigmund Freud, Anna Freud, Cambridge: Polity 2014. ISBN 978-0-7456-4149-2
    The Letters of Sigmund Freud and Otto Rank: Inside Psychoanalysis (eds. E. J. Lieberman and Robert Kramer). Johns Hopkins University Press, 2012.
    The Complete Letters of Sigmund Freud to Wilhelm Fliess, 1887–1904, (editor and translator Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson), 1985, ISBN 978-0-674-15420-9
    The Sigmund Freud Carl Gustav Jung Letters, Publisher: Princeton University Press; Abr edition, 1994, ISBN 978-0-691-03643-4
    The Complete Correspondence of Sigmund Freud and Karl Abraham, 1907–1925, Publisher: Karnac Books, 2002, ISBN 978-1-85575-051-7
    The Complete Correspondence of Sigmund Freud and Ernest Jones, 1908–1939., Belknap Press, Harvard University Press, 1995, ISBN 978-0-674-15424-7
    The Sigmund Freud - Ludwig Binswanger Correspondence 1908-1939, London: Other Press 2003, ISBN 1-892746-32-8
    The Correspondence of Sigmund Freud and Sándor Ferenczi, Volume 1, 1908–1914, Belknap Press, Harvard University Press, 1994, ISBN 978-0-674-17418-4
    The Correspondence of Sigmund Freud and Sándor Ferenczi, Volume 2, 1914–1919, Belknap Press, Harvard University Press, 1996, ISBN 978-0-674-17419-1
    The Correspondence of Sigmund Freud and Sándor Ferenczi, Volume 3, 1920–1933, Belknap Press, Harvard University Press, 2000, ISBN 978-0-674-00297-5
    The Letters of Sigmund Freud to Eduard Silberstein, 1871–1881, Belknap Press, Harvard University Press, ISBN 978-0-674-52828-4
    Psycho-Analysis and Faith: The Letters of Sigmund Freud and Oskar Pfister. Trans. Eric Mosbacher. Heinrich Meng and Ernst L. Freud. eds London: Hogarth Press and the Institute of Psycho-Analysis, 1963.
    Sigmund Freud and Lou Andreas-Salome; Letters, Publisher: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich; 1972, ISBN 978-0-15-133490-2
    The Letters of Sigmund Freud and Arnold Zweig, Publisher: New York University Press, 1987, ISBN 978-0-8147-2585-6
    Letters of Sigmund Freud – selected and edited by Ernst Ludwig Freud, Publisher: New York: Basic Books, 1960, ISBN 978-0-486-27105-7

    Notes

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    2.Jump up ^ "Freud". Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary.
    3.^ Jump up to: a b Ford & Urban 1965, p. 109
    4.Jump up ^ Noel Sheehy, Alexandra Forsythe (2013). "Sigmund Freud". Fifty Key Thinkers in Psychology. Routledge. ISBN 1134704933.
    5.Jump up ^ Eric R. Kandel The Age of Insight: The Quest to Understand the Unconscious in Art, Mind and Brain, from Vienna 1900 to the Present. New York: Random House 2012, pp. 45-46.
    6.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, pp. 136-7
    7.Jump up ^ Jones, Ernest (1949) What is Psychoanalysis ? London: Allen & Unwin. p. 47.
    8.Jump up ^ Mannoni, Octave, Freud: The Theory of the Unconscious, London: NLB 1971, p. 49-51
    9.Jump up ^ Mannoni, Octave, Freud: The Theory of the Unconscious, London: NLB 1971, pp. 146-47
    10.Jump up ^ For its efficacy and the influence of psychoanalysis on psychiatry and psychotherapy, see The Challenge to Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy, Chapter 9, Psychoanalysis and Psychiatry: A Changing Relationship by Robert Michels, 1999 and Tom Burns Our Necessary Shadow: The Nature and Meaning of Psychiatry London: Allen Lane 2013 p. 96-97. For the influence on psychology, see The Psychologist, December 2000
    For the influence of psychoanalysis in the humanities, see J. Forrester The Seductions of Psychoanalysis Cambridge University Press 1990, pp. 2-3.
    For the debate on efficacy, see Fisher, S. and Greenberg, R. P., Freud Scientifically Reappraised: Testing the Theories and Therapy, New York: John Wiley, 1996, pp. 193-217.
    For the debate on the scientific status of psychoanalysis see Stevens, R. 1985 Freud and Psychoanalysis Milton Keynes: Open University Press, pp. 91-116.
    For the debate on psychoanalysis and feminism, see Appignanesi, Lisa & Forrester, John. Freud's Women. London: Penguin Books, 1992, pp. 455-474
    11.Jump up ^ Auden 1940 Also see Alexander, Sam "In Memory of Sigmund Freud" (undated) and Thurschwell, P. Sigmund Freud London: Routledge 2009, p. 1
    12.Jump up ^ Peter Gay (1995), Freud: A Life for Our Time: picture caption "his adored mother"
    13.Jump up ^ Gresser 1994, p. 225.
    14.Jump up ^ Emanuel Rice (1990). Freud and Moses: The Long Journey Home. SUNY Press. p. 55. ISBN 0791404536.
    15.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, pp. 4–8; Clark 1980, p. 4 For Jakob's Torah study, see Meissner 1993, p. 233.
    For the date of the marriage, see Rice 1990, p. 55.
    16.Jump up ^ Deborah P. Margolis, M.A. "Margolis 1989". Pep-web.org. Retrieved 17 January 2014.
    17.Jump up ^ Jones, Ernest (1964) Sigmund Freud: Life and Work. Edited and abridged by Lionel Trilling and Stephen Marcus. Harmondsworth: Penguin Books p. 37
    18.Jump up ^ Hothersall 2004, p. 276.
    19.Jump up ^ Hothersall 1995
    20.Jump up ^ See Past studies of the eels and references therein.
    21.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, p. 42-47
    22.Jump up ^ Peter J. Swales, "Freud, Minna Bernays and the Conquest of Rome: New Light on the Origins of Psychoanalysis", The New American Review, Spring/Summer 1982, pp. 1-23, which also includes speculation over an abortion. see Gay 2006, pp. 76, 752-53 for a sceptical rejoinder to Swales.
    for the discovery of the hotel log see http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/world/europe/24iht-web.1224freud.3998915.html?pagewanted=all
    23.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, pp. 77, 169
    24.Jump up ^ Freud and Bonaparte 2009, pp. 238-239
    25.Jump up ^ Pigman, G. W. (1995). "Freud and the history of empathy". The International journal of psycho-analysis. 76 ( Pt 2): 237–256. PMID 7628894.
    26.^ Jump up to: a b Vitz 1988, pp. 53–54
    27.Jump up ^ Sulloway 1979, pp. 243, 253
    28.Jump up ^ Paul Roazen, in Dufresne, Todd (ed). Returns of the French Freud: Freud, Lacan, and Beyond. New York and London: Routledge Press, 1997, p. 13
    29.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, p. 45
    30.Jump up ^ Holt 1989, p. 242
    31.Jump up ^ Bloom 1994, p. 346
    32.Jump up ^ Robert, Marthe (1976) From Oedipus to Moses: Freud’s Jewish Identity New York: Anchor pp. 3-6
    33.Jump up ^ Frosh, Stephen (2004). "Freud, Psychoanalysis and Anti-Semitism". The Psychoanalytic Review 91: 309–330. doi:10.1521/prev.91.3.309.38302.
    34.Jump up ^ Freud had a small lithographic version of the painting, created by Eugène Pirodon (1824-1908), framed and hung on the wall of his Vienna rooms from 1886 to 1938. Once Freud reached England, it was immediately placed directly over the analytical couch in his London rooms.
    35.Jump up ^ Joseph Aguayo, PhD. "Joseph Aguayo Charcot and Freud: Some Implications of Late 19th-century French Psychiatry and Politics for the Origins of Psychoanalysis (1986). Psychoanalysis and Contemporary Thought, 9:223–260". Pep-web.org. Retrieved 6 February 2011.
    36.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, pp. 64–71
    37.Jump up ^ "jewishvirtuallibrary Sigmund Freud (1856-1939)". jewishvirtuallibrary.org. Retrieved 20 May 2013.
    38.Jump up ^ Freud 1896c, pp. 203, 211, 219; Eissler 2005, p. 96
    39.Jump up ^ J. Forrester The Seductions of Psychoanalysis Cambridge University Press 1990, pp. 75-76
    40.Jump up ^ Gay 2006, pp. 88-96
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    Consider Norman Vincent Peale. I was lucky enough to be present when Dr. Peale delivered the three sermons in the video at the bottom of this post. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Vincent_Peale Norman Vincent Peale (May 31, 1898 – December 24, 1993) was an American minister and author (most notably of The Power of Positive Thinking) and a progenitor of "positive thinking". His ideas were not accepted by mental health experts.[1]

    Peale was born in Bowersville, Ohio, the oldest of three sons of Charles and Anna (née Delaney) Peale. He graduated from Bellefontaine High School, Bellefontaine, Ohio. He earned degrees at Ohio Wesleyan University (where he became a brother of the Fraternity of Phi Gamma Delta) and Boston University School of Theology.[citation needed]

    Raised as a Methodist and ordained as a Methodist minister in 1922, Peale changed his religious affiliation to the Reformed Church in America in 1932 and began a 52-year tenure as pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in New York City. During that time the church's membership grew from 600 to over 5,000, and he became one of New York City's most famous preachers.[citation needed]

    Peale and Smiley Blanton, a psychoanalyst, established a religio-psychiatric outpatient clinic next door to the church. The two men wrote books together, notably Faith Is the Answer: A Psychiatrist and a Pastor Discuss Your Problems (1940). The book was written in alternating chapters, with Blanton writing one chapter, then Peale. Blanton espoused no particular religious point of view in his chapters. In 1951 this clinic of psychotherapy and religion grew into the American Foundation of Religion and Psychiatry, with Peale serving as president and Blanton as executive director.[2] Blanton handled difficult psychiatric cases and Peale, who had no mental health credentials, handled religious issues.[3]

    When Peale came under heavy criticism from the mental health community for his controversial book "The Power of Positive Thinking," (1952) Blanton distanced himself from Peale and refused to publicly endorse the book. Blanton did not allow Peale to use his name in "The Power of Positive Thinking" and declined to defend Peale publicly when he came under criticism. As scholar Donald Meyer describes it: "Peale evidently imagined that he marched with Blanton in their joint labors in the Religio-psychiatric Institute. This was not exactly so."[3]:266 Meyer notes that Blanton's own book, "Love or Perish, (1956), "contrasted so distinctly at so many points with the Peale evangel," of "positive thinking" that these works had virtually nothing in common.[3]:273

    In 1935, Peale started a radio program, "The Art of Living", which lasted for 54 years. Under sponsorship of the National Council of Churches he moved into television when the new medium arrived. In the meantime he had begun to edit the magazine Guideposts and to write books. His sermons were mailed monthly.[4] During the depression Peale teamed with James Cash Penney, founder of J.C. Penney & Co.; Arthur Godfrey, the radio and TV personality; and Thomas J. Watson, President and Founder of IBM to form the first board of 40Plus, an organization that helps unemployed managers and executives.[citation needed]

    In 1945, Peale, his wife Ruth Stafford Peale and Raymond Thornburg, a Pawling, New York businessman, founded Guideposts magazine, a non-denominational forum for celebrities and ordinary people to relate inspirational stories. For its launch, they raised US$1,200 from Frank Gannett, founder of the Gannett newspaper chain, J. Howard Pew, a Philadelphia industrialist, and Branch Rickey, General Manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers.[citation needed]

    Peale was a prolific writer; The Power of Positive Thinking is by far his most widely read work. First published in 1952, it stayed on the New York Times bestseller list for 186[5] consecutive weeks, and according to the publisher, Simon and Schuster, the book has sold around 5 million copies. The fact that the book has sold 5 million copies is printed on the cover of the current edition in both paperback and hard cover, and directly contradicts exaggerated claims that the book has sold more than 20 million copies[6][7] in 42 languages.[6] The publisher also contradicts the translation claim, saying the book has been translated into only 15 languages.[8] Nearly half of the sales of the book (2.1 mil.) occurred before 1958,[9] and by 1963, the book had still only sold 2 million copies according to Peale.[10] Since then, the book has sold less than 3 million copies over the past 50 years. Some of his other popular works include The Art of Living, A Guide to Confident Living, The Tough-Minded Optimist, and Inspiring Messages for Daily Living.[citation needed]

    In 1947 Peale co-founded (along with educator Kenneth Beebe) The Horatio Alger Association. This organization aims to recognize and honor Americans who have been successful in spite of difficult circumstances.[citation needed] Other organizations founded by Peale include the Peale Center, the Positive Thinking Foundation and Guideposts Publications, all of which aim to promote Peale's theories about positive thinking.

    Peale was politically and personally close to President Richard Nixon's family. In 1968 he officiated at the wedding of Julie Nixon and David Eisenhower. He continued calling at the White House throughout the Watergate crisis, saying "Christ didn't shy away from people in trouble."

    He was also the subject of the 1964 film One Man's Way.

    Peale was also a 33° Scottish Rite Freemason.[11]

    President Ronald Reagan awarded Peale, for his contributions to the field of theology, the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the highest civilian honor in the United States) on March 26, 1984.[12] He died of a stroke on December 24, 1993 at age 95 in Pawling, New York.

    Peale's works came under criticism from several mental health experts, one of whom directly said Peale was a con man and a fraud.[13] These critics appeared in the early 1950s after the publication of The Power of Positive Thinking.

    One major criticism of The Power of Positive Thinking is that the book is full of anecdotes that are hard to substantiate. Almost all of the experts and many of the testimonials that Peale quotes as supporting his philosophy are unnamed, unknown and unsourced. Examples include a "famous psychologist",[14]:52 a two-page letter from a "practicing physician",[14]:150 another "famous psychologist",[14]:169 a "prominent citizen of New York City",[14]:88 and dozens, if not hundreds, more unverifiable quotations. Similar scientific studies of questionable validity are also cited. As psychiatrist R. C. Murphy exclaimed, "All this advertising is vindicated as it were, by a strict cleaving to the side of part truth," and referred to the work and the quoted material as "implausible and woodenly pious."[15]

    A second major accusation of Peale is that he attempted to conceal that his techniques for giving the reader absolute self-confidence and deliverance from suffering are a well known form of hypnosis, and that he attempts to persuade his readers to follow his beliefs through a combination of false evidence and self-hypnosis (autosuggestion), disguised by the use of terms which may sound more benign from the reader's point of view ("techniques", "formulas," "methods," "prayers," and "prescriptions."). One author called Peale's book "The Bible of American autohypnotism.".[3]:264

    While his techniques are not debated by psychologists, Peale said his theological practice and strategy was directed more at self-analysis, forgiveness, character development, and growth[16] much like the Jesuits of the Catholic Church.[17]

    Psychiatrist R. C. Murphy writes "Self knowledge, in Mr. Peale's understanding is unequivocally bad: self hypnosis is good." Murphy adds that repeated hypnosis defeats an individual's self-motivation, self-knowledge, unique sense of self, sense of reality, and ability to think critically. Murphy describes Peale's understanding of the mind as inaccurate, "without depth," and his description of the workings of the mind and the unconscious as deceptively simplistic and false: "It is the very shallowness of his concept of 'person' that makes his rules appear easy ... If the unconscious of man ... can be conceptualized as a container for a small number of psychic fragments, then ideas like 'mind-drainage' follow. So does the reliance on self-hypnosis, which is the cornerstone of Mr. Peale's philosophy.'"[15]

    Psychologist Albert Ellis, the founder of cognitive therapy and influential psychologist of the 20th century, compared the Peale techniques with those of the hypnotist Emile Coue, and Ellis says that the repeated use of these hypnotic techniques could lead to significant mental health problems. Ellis has documented in several books the many individuals he has treated who suffered mental breakdowns from following Peale's teachings. Ellis' writings repeatedly warn the public not to follow the Peale message. Ellis contends the Peale approach is dangerous, distorted, unrealistic. He compares the black or white view of life that Peale teaches to a psychological disorder (borderline personality disorder), perhaps implying that dangerous mental habits which he sees in the disorder may be brought on by following the teaching. "In the long run [Peale's teachings] lead to failure and disillusionment, and not only boomerang back against people, but often prejudice them against effective therapy."[18]

    A third major criticism is that Peale's philosophy is based on exaggerating the fears of his readers and followers, and that this exaggerated fear inevitably leads to aggression and the destruction of those considered "negative." Peale's views are critically reviewed in a 1955 article by psychiatrist R. C. Murphy, published in The Nation, titled "Think Right: Reverend Peale's Panacea."

    With saccharine terrorism, Mr. Peale refuses to allow his followers to hear, speak or see any evil. For him real human suffering does not exist; there is no such thing as murderous rage, suicidal despair, cruelty, lust, greed, mass poverty, or illiteracy. All these things he would dismiss as trivial mental processes which will evaporate if thoughts are simply turned into more cheerful channels. This attitude is so unpleasant it bears some search for its real meaning. It is clearly not a genuine denial of evil but rather a horror of it. A person turns his eyes away from human bestiality and the suffering it evokes only if he cannot stand to look at it. By doing so he affirms the evil to be absolute, he looks away only when he feels that nothing can be done about it ... The belief in pure evil, an area of experience beyond the possibility of help or redemption, is automatically a summons to action: 'evil' means 'that which must be attacked ... ' Between races for instance, this belief leads to prejudice. In child-rearing it drives parents into trying to obliterate rather than trying to nurture one or another area of the child's emerging personality ... In international relationships it leads to war. As soon as a religious authority endorses our capacity for hatred, either by refusing to recognize unpleasantness in the style of Mr Peale or in the more classical style of setting up a nice comfortable Satan to hate, it lulls our struggles for growth to a standstill ... Thus Mr Peale's book is not only inadequate for our needs but even undertakes to drown out the fragile inner voice which is the spur to inner growth.[15]

    Harvard scholar Donald Meyer would seem to agree with this assessment, presenting similar warnings of a religious nature. In his article "Confidence Man", Meyer writes, "In more classic literature, this sort of pretension to mastery has often been thought to indicate an alliance with a Lower rather than a Higher power."[13] The mastery Peale speaks of is not the mastery of skills or tasks, but the mastery of fleeing and avoiding one's own "negative thoughts." Meyer writes this exaggerated fear inevitably leads to aggression: "Battle it is; Peale, in sublime betrayal of the aggression within his philosophy of peace, talks of 'shooting' prayers at people."[13]

    Psychologist Martin Seligman, former APA president and the founder of the branch of psychology known as "positive psychology", felt it important to differentiate Peale's Positive Thinking from his own Positive Psychology, while acknowledging their common roots. It is important to see the difference: Is Positive Psychology just positive thinking warmed over?

    Positive Psychology has a philosophical connection to positive thinking, but not an empirical one. The Arminian Heresy (discussed at length in the notes for Chapter 5) is at the foundations of Methodism, and Norman Vincent Peale's positive thinking grows out of it. Positive Psychology is also tied at its foundations to the individual freely choosing, and in this sense both endeavors have common roots.

    But Positive Psychology is also different in significant ways from positive thinking, in that Positive Psychology is based on scientific accuracy while positive thinking is not, and that positive thinking could even be fatal in the wrong circumstances.

    First, positive thinking is an armchair activity. Positive Psychology, on the other hand, is tied to a program of empirical and replicable scientific activity. Second, Positive Psychology does not hold a brief for positivity. There is a balance sheet, and in spite of the many advantages of positive thinking, there are times when negative thinking is to be preferred. Although there are many studies that correlate positivity with later health, longevity, sociability, and success, the balance of the evidence suggests that in some situations negative thinking leads to more accuracy. Where accuracy is tied to potentially catastrophic outcomes (for example, when an airplane pilot is deciding whether to de-ice the wings of her airplane), we should all be pessimists. With these benefits in mind, Positive Psychology aims for the optimal balance between positive and negative thinking. Third, many leaders in the Positive Psychology movement have spent decades working on the "negative" side of things. Positive Psychology is a supplement to negative psychology, not a substitute.[19]

    Seligman went on to say "Positive thinking often involves trying to believe upbeat statements such as 'Every day, in every way, I am getting better and better,' in the absence of evidence or even in the face of contrary evidence.... Learned optimism, in contrast, is about accuracy. (Ibid, page 98).

    Another difference experts noted was that though Seligman describes his positive psychology as a self-empowering program completely within the ability of the individual to achieve on his or her own, experts described positive thinking as disempowering to the individual and a religion of weakness, where individuals are told by Peale they cannot overcome their negative circumstances without his autosuggestive "techniques," which he claims will give them the power of God. As Donald Meyer quotes Peale as saying, "No man, however resourceful or pugnacious, is a match for so great an adversary as a hostile world. He is at best a puny and impotent creature quite at the mercy of the cosmic and social forces in the midst of which he dwells." Meyer noted that Peale always "reacted to the image of harshness with flight rather than competitive fight," ("The Positive Thinkers." Donald Meyer. Pantheon books, 1965, p. 261), and the only solution Peale offers out of this state of helplessness are his autosuggestive "techniques," which he claims will give people the power of God. Meyer adds that the proof that positive thinking cannot work is that according to Peale, even with God's power on one's side, one still cannot face negative reality, which is always stronger.

    Meyer, like Seligman, notes that such unrealistic thinking by a positive thinker could easily be fatal. "Faith that you could defeat an opponent who could run faster than you would be contemptible since it could only mean you expected God to lend you power He refused to lend your opponent or that you hoped your opponent lacked self-knowledge, lacked faith, and hence failed to use his real powers. Such faith could be fatal if it led you into competitions it would be fatal to lose. As for those competitions where luck or accident or providence might decide, certainly the faith which looked to luck or accident or providence would be contemptible, and also possibly fatal." (Ibid, p. 284)

    Episcopal theologian (later bishop) John M. Krumm criticized Peale and the "heretical character" of his teaching on positive thinking. Krumm cites "the emphasis upon techniques such as the repetition of confident phrases ... or the manipulation of certain mechanical devices," which he says "gives the impression of a thoroughly depersonalized religion. Very little is said about the sovereign mind and purpose of God; much is made of the things men can say to themselves and can do to bring about their ambitions and purposes." Krumm cautions that "The predominant use of impersonal symbols for God is a serious and dangerous invitation to regard man as the center of reality and the Divine Reality as an impersonal power, the use and purpose of which is determined by the man who takes hold of it and employs it as he thinks best."[20]

    Theologian Reinhold Neibuhr, Professor of Applied Christianity, Union Theological Seminary, reported similar concerns about positive thinking. "This new cult is dangerous. Anything which corrupts the gospel hurts Christianity. And it hurts people too. It helps them to feel good while they are evading the real issues of life." ("The Case against Easy Religion," William Peters. Redbook Magazine, September 1955, pp. 22–23, 92-94).

    Liston Pope, Dean of Yale Divinity School, agreed with Neibuhr. "There is nothing humble or pious in the view this cult takes of God. God becomes sort of a master psychiatrist who will help you get out of your difficulties. The formulas and the constanat reiteration of such themes as "You and God can do anything" are very nearly blasphemous." (Ibid).

    G. Bromley Oxnam, Bishop, Methodist Church, Washington D.C., also weighed in. "When you are told that if you follow seven easy rules you will become president of your company, you are being kidded. There just aren't that many openings. This kind of preaching is making Christianity a cult of success." (Ibid).

    A. Powell Davies, pastor of All Souls' Unitarian Church, Washington D.C., added his view. "It has sort of a drug effect on people to be told they need not worry. They keep coming back for more. It keeps their minds on a superficial level and encourages emotional dependency. It is an escape from reality. People under stress do one of two things; seek shelter or respond to harsh reality by a deeper recognition of what they are up against. The people who flock to the 'peace of mind' preachers are seeking shelter. They don't want to face reality." (Ibid, p. 94)

    In spite of the attacks, Peale did not resign from his church, though he repeatedly threatened that he would. He also never directly challenged or rebutted his critics. Meanwhile, his book "The Power of Positive Thinking had stopped selling by 1958,("Pitchmen in the Pulpit." Fuller, Edmond. Saturday Review, March 19, 1957, pp. 28–30 and "The Power of Positive Thinking." Peale, Norman Vincent. Fawcett Crest, 1963, pp.vii.) As Donald Meyer noted, at first

    It was evident that Peale had managed to tap wide audiences formed by prolonged changes in the tone and morale of American society, for whom the coherence of Protestantism even as late as the early twentieth century was not enough. His attackers did not fall short of declaring his Protestantism non-existent. Peale survived. As he himself recounted it, he found himself stunned by the attacks. Troubled, even considering the virtues of resigning his post, he entered his season of withdrawal. There he found his answer. His father assured him he must go on. Was he not, after all, helping millions? Besides, it was unheard of in a democratic society for a man to believe his lonely critics when millions had approved. And so he returned. How to Stay Alive Your Whole Life, Peale entitled his next book; what else was George Beard's neurasthnia but a form of half-living? Finally, in consistent exemplification of the logic of the new religion, Peale proved he was right as well by publishing the testimonies of those declaring that for them positive thinking had indeed worked. There was no particular reason to doubt them.[21]

    Meyer noted Peale's influence over his followers began when "Peale had 'discovered' the power of suggestion over the human mind, and therewith, had caught up with Henry Wood, Charles Fillmore, and Emmett Fox, sixty forty and twenty years before him. He was teaching Mental Photography all over again. Thoughts were things." (Ibid. p. 264). Meyer described Peale's religion. "Peale's aim in preaching positive thinking was not that of inducing contemplative states of Oneness nor of advancing self-insight nor of strengthening conscious will, let alone sensitizing people to their world. The clue lay here in Peale's reiterated concern that that the operation of his of his positive thoughts and thought conditioners become 'automatic,' that the individual truly become 'conditioned....' But was the automated power of positive thinking liberty or just one more form of mind-cure hypnotism? Was this new power really health or simply further weakness disguised?" (Ibid. p. 268.) After considering all points of view, Meyer answered his own questions, and concluded positive thinking was a religion of "weakness." "Peale's phenonemal popularity represented a culture in impasse. The psychology for which the culture was also religion culminated the treatment of weakness by weakness." (Ibid., p. 258)

    Peale is also remembered in politics by the Adlai Stevenson quote: "I find Paul appealing and Peale appalling." The origin of the quote can be traced to the 1952 election, when Stevenson was informed by a reporter that Peale had been attacking him as unfit for the presidency because he was divorced. Later during the 1956 campaign for President against Eisenhower, Stevenson was introduced for a speech with: "Gov. Stevenson, we want to make it clear you are here as a courtesy because Dr. Norman Vincent Peale has instructed us to vote for your opponent." Stevenson stepped to the podium and quipped, "Speaking as a Christian, I find the Apostle Paul appealing and the Apostle Peale appalling."[22] In 1960 Stevenson was asked by a reporter for a comment regarding Peale attacking John F. Kennedy as unfit for the presidency because he was Catholic, to which Stevenson responded: "Yes, you can say that I find Paul appealing and Peale appalling."

    Stevenson continued to lampoon Peale on the campaign trail in speeches for Kennedy. Though Nixon and the Republicans tried to distance themselves from the furor caused by Peale's anti-Catholic stance, Democrats did not let voters forget. President Truman, for one, accused Nixon of tacit approval of the anti-Catholic sentiment, and it remained a hot issue on the campaign trail.[23] Regarding Peale's intrusion into Republican politics, Stevenson said in this transcript of a speech given in San Francisco: "Richard Nixon has tried to step aside in favor of Norman Vincent Peale (APPLAUSE, LAUGHTER) ... We can only surmise that Mr. Nixon has been reading 'The Power of Positive Thinking.' (APPLAUSE). America was not built by wishful thinking. It was built by realists, and it will not be saved by guess work and self-deception. It will only be saved by hard work and facing the facts."[24]

    At a later date, according to one report, Stevenson and Peale met, and Stevenson apologized to Peale for any personal pain his comments might have caused Peale, though he never publicly recanted the substance of his statements. There is no record of Peale apologizing to Stevenson for his attacks on Stevenson.[25] It has been argued that even his "positive thinking" message was by implication politically conservative: "The underlying assumption of Peale's teaching was that nearly all basic problems were personal." [26]

    Peale was invited to attend a strategy conference of about thirty evangelicals in Montreaux, Switzerland, by its host, the well-known evangelist Billy Graham, in mid-August 1960. There they agreed to kick off a group called The National Conference of Citizens for Religious Freedom in Washington the following month. On September 7, Peale served as its chairman and spoke for 150 Protestant clergymen, opposing the election of John F. Kennedy as president.[27] "Faced with the election of a Catholic," Peale declared, "our culture is at stake."[23] In a written manifesto Peale and his group also declared JFK would serve the interests of the Catholic Church before the interests of the United States: "It is inconceivable that a Roman Catholic president would not be under extreme pressure by the hierarchy of his church to accede to its policies with respect to foreign interests," and that the election of a Catholic might even end free speech in America.[23] Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr responded "Dr. Peale and his associates ... show blind prejudice."[23] Protestant Episcopal Bishop James Pike echoed Niebuhr: "Any argument which would rule out a Roman Catholic just because he is Roman Catholic is both bigotry and a violation of the constitutional guarantee of no religious test for public office."[28] The Peale statement was further condemned by President Truman, the Board of Rabbis, and other leading Protestants such as Paul Tillich and John C. Bennett.[28] Peale recanted his statements and was later fired by his own committee. As conservative William F. Buckley succinctly described the fallout: "When ... The Norman Vincent Peale Committee was organized, on the program that a vote for Kennedy was a vote to repeal the First Amendment to the Constitution, the Jesuits fired their Big Bertha, and Dr. Peale fled from the field, mortally wounded."[29] Peale subsequently went into hiding and threatened to resign from his church.[30] The fallout continued as Peale was condemned in a statement by one hundred religious leaders and dropped as a syndicated columnist by a dozen newspapers.[30] After the uproar the pastor backed off from further formal partisan commitments.[citation needed]

    The Reverend Billy Graham said at the National Council of Churches on June 12, 1966 that "I don't know of anyone who had done more for the kingdom of God than Norman and Ruth Peale or have meant any more in my life for the encouragement they have given me."[31]

    Upon hearing of Peale's death, U.S. President Bill Clinton had this to say: "The name of Dr. Norman Vincent Peale will forever be associated with the wondrously American values of optimism and service. Dr. Peale was an optimist who believed that, whatever the antagonisms and complexities of modern life brought us, anyone could prevail by approaching life with a simple sense of faith. And he served us by instilling that optimism in every Christian and every other person who came in contact with his writings or his hopeful soul. In a productive and giving life that spanned the 20th century, Dr. Peale lifted the spirits of millions and millions of people who were nourished and sustained by his example, his teaching, and his giving. While the Clinton family and all Americans mourn his loss, there is some poetry in his passing on a day when the world celebrates the birth of Christ, an idea that was central to Dr. Peale's message and Dr. Peale's work. He will be missed".[32]

    Both Donald Trump and his family attended Marble Collegiate Church, and Trump has repeatedly praised Peale and cited him as a formative influence.[33]

    Miscellanea

    Ernest Holmes, founder of the Religious Science movement, was a mentor to Peale.
    Peale took several of Holmes's Foundation classes (New Thought). Tagline of class: "Change your thinking, change your life".
    Modern televangelist and minister Robert H. Schuller was mentored by Peale. Like Peale, Schuller has also written many religious self-help books, including Move Ahead With Possibility Thinking (1973).

    Cultural references

    Peale is referred to in the song "The John Birch Society" by the Chad Mitchell Trio ("Norman Vincent Peale may think he's kidding us along...he keeps on preaching brotherhood, but we know what he means ...")
    Peale is sarcastically referred to as a "deep philosopher" in the Tom Lehrer song "It Makes a Fellow Proud to Be a Soldier" (on the album An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer, 1959).
    In the "Treehouse of Horror VI" episode of The Simpsons, a building with the sign "Birthplace of Norman Vincent Peale" is destroyed.
    In POWER OF THE PLUS FACTOR (p. 39) Peale states that one of the most remarkable men he ever met was a native of Lebanon of Palestinian origin, Musa Alami.
    A clip of Peale's radio program is heard briefly in the film Grey Gardens (1975), and Peale himself appears as a character in the musical based on the film (2006).
    A widely reprinted editorial in the Los Angeles Times says that the 2006 book and DVD The Secret both borrow some of Peale's ideas, and that The Secret suffers from some of the same weaknesses as Peale's works.LAtimes.com, accessdate 2007-01-13
    M*A*S*H episode 135 (The Smell of Music) contains a grossly injured soldier (guest star Jordan Clarke) who rejects counsel from Col. Potter (Harry Morgan), stating, "Doc, if there's one thing I don't need right now it's a Norman Vincent Peale sermon ..."
    In the fourth episode ("The Bracelet") of the HBO show "Curb Your Enthusiasm", Larry David calls Richard Lewis "Norman Vincent Lewis" after he says, "Every day is a great day for me."
    In the American film The Assassination of Richard Nixon (2004, directed by Niels Mueller), Manager Jack Jones (Jack Thompson) tries to convince his employee Samuel J. Bicke (Sean Penn), a disillusioned salesman with a history of short-lived jobs, to believe truly in the products he's selling and to follow the concept of positive thinking. Then he asks his son Martin to hand over a couple of books to Bicke, one of them is Norman Vincent Peale's “The Power of Positive Thinking”.
    In the musical Li'l Abner, General Bullmoose is reminded to take his "Norman Vincent Peale pill," and declares he's "not taking those Peale pills anymore. They make me think too positive."
    In the graphic novel Watchmen, Adrian Veidt is described as being "a little Norman Vincent Peale" after a vague explanation of how he achieved success in wealth and fitness.
    Was the subject of a feature film: One Man's Way (1964) starring Don Murray.
    In an episode of the CNN series 'Race for the White House' (2016) S1/E1 "John F. Kennedy vs. Richard Nixon".

    Some of Peale's books

    How to Handle Tough Times OCLC 27077448, a 1990 booklet by Peale, lies amid debris found from the aftermath of the 2013 Moore tornado.
    The Positive Power of Jesus Christ (1980) ISBN 0-8423-4875-1
    Stay Alive All Your Life (1957)
    Why Some Positive Thinkers Get Powerful Results (1987). ISBN 0-449-21359-5
    The Power of Positive Thinking, Ballantine Books; Reissue edition (August 1, 1996). ISBN 0-449-91147-0
    Guide to Confident Living, Ballantine Books; Reissue edition (September 1, 1996). ISBN 0-449-91192-6
    Six Attitudes for Winners, Tyndale House Publishers; (May 1, 1990). ISBN 0-8423-5906-0
    Positive Thinking Every Day : An Inspiration for Each Day of the Year, Fireside Books; (December 6, 1993). ISBN 0-671-86891-8
    Positive Imaging, Ballantine Books; Reissue edition (September 1, 1996). ISBN 0-449-91164-0
    You Can If You Think You Can, Fireside Books; (August 26, 1987). ISBN 0-671-76591-4
    Thought Conditioners, Foundation for Christian; Reprint edition (December 1, 1989). ISBN 99910-38-92-2
    In God We Trust: A Positive Faith for Troubled Times, Thomas Nelson Inc; Reprint edition (November 1, 1995). ISBN 0-7852-7675-0
    Norman Vincent Peale's Treasury of Courage and Confidence, Doubleday; (June 1970). ISBN 0-385-07062-4
    My Favorite Hymns and the Stories Behind Them, HarperCollins; 1st ed edition (September 1, 1994). ISBN 0-06-066463-0
    The Power of Positive Thinking for Young People, Random House Children's Books (A Division of Random House Group); (December 31, 1955). ISBN 0-437-95110-3
    The Amazing Results of Positive Thinking, Fireside; Fireside edition (March 12, 2003). ISBN 0-7432-3483-9
    Stay Alive All Your Life, Fawcett Books; Reissue edition (August 1, 1996). ISBN 0-449-91204-3
    "You Can Have God's Help with Daily Problems" FCL Copyright 1956–1980 LOC card #7957646
    Faith Is the Answer: A Psychiatrist and a Pastor Discuss Your Problems, Smiley Blanton and Norman Vincent Peale, Kessinger Publishing (March 28, 2007), ISBN 1-4325-7000-5 (10), ISBN 978-1-4325-7000-2 (13)
    Power of the Plus Factor, A Fawcett Crest Book, Published by Ballantine Books, 1987, ISBN 0-449-21600-4
    This Incredible Century, Peale Center for Christian Living, 1991, ISBN 0-8423-4615-5
    Sin, Sex and Self-Control, 1977, ISBN 0-449-23583-1, ISBN 978-0-449-23583-6, Fawcett (December 12, 1977)

    References

    1.Jump up ^ Park, Robert L. (2009). Superstition: Belief in the Age of Science. Princeton University Press. p. 127. ISBN 978-0-691-13355-3 "Peale’s self-hypnosis technique was heavily criticized by mental health experts, who warned that it was dangerous. Critics denounced him as a con man and a fraud. As a minister, however, Peale was spared from any requirement to prove his assertions."
    2.Jump up ^ Answers.com, from Britannica Concise Encyclopedia
    3.^ Jump up to: a b c d Donald Meyer, The Positive Thinkers. Pantheon Books, 1965
    4.Jump up ^ USdreams.com, Norman Vincent Peale: Turning America On To Positive Thinking
    5.Jump up ^ Alexander, Ron (May 31, 1994). "Chronicle". The New York Times. Retrieved May 20, 2010.
    6.^ Jump up to: a b from the Des Moines Register website in an article dated October 8, 2008
    7.Jump up ^ from the Los Angeles Times website in an article dated February 8, 2008
    8.Jump up ^ publisher's statement on amazon.com describing several TPOPT books, tapes and other media
    9.Jump up ^ "Pitchman in the Pulpit." Fuller, Edmund. Saturday Review, March 19, 1957, pp. 28–30
    10.Jump up ^ The Power of Positive Thinking, Fawcett Crest, 1963, pp. vii.
    11.Jump up ^ SRMason-SJ.org, Freemasonry and Religion
    12.Jump up ^ Tobias, Ted. In tribute: eulogies of famous people. p. 141. ISBN 0-8108-3537-1.
    13.^ Jump up to: a b c Donald Meyer, "Confidence Man", New Republic, July 11, 1955, pp8-10
    14.^ Jump up to: a b c d Power of Positive Thinking
    15.^ Jump up to: a b c Murphy, R.C. "Think Right: Reverend Peale's Panacea." The Nation. May 7, 1955, pp. 398–400
    16.Jump up ^ The Positive Principle Today: How to Renew and Sustain the Power of Positive ... – Page 183 by Norman Vincent Peale – Self-Help – 1976 – 239 pages
    17.Jump up ^ Jesuit Spirituality: Leading Ideas of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius by Henry Vincent Gill – Spiritual retreats – 1935
    18.Jump up ^ Overcoming Resistance: Rational Emotive Therapy With Difficult Clients, New York: Springer Publishing, 1985, p. 147
    19.Jump up ^ Seligman, Martin. Authentic Happiness, Free Press, 2002, pp. 288
    20.Jump up ^ Krumm, John M. Modern Heresies, Seabury Press, 1961, p. 35
    21.Jump up ^ "The Positive Thinkers." Donald Meyer. Pantheon books, 1965, p. 265
    22.Jump up ^ Hoekstra, Dave. "A former president's gag order; Ford's symposium examines humor in the Oval Office", Chicago Sun-Times, September 28, 1986, pg. 22. Retrieved from Proquest.UMI.com Newspapers on September 17, 2007.
    23.^ Jump up to: a b c d "The Religious Issue: Hot and Getting Hotter", Newsweek, September 19, 1960.
    24.Jump up ^ PacificaRadioArchives.org, Transcript of Adlai Stevenson speech in San Francisco, 1960 Archived November 27, 2010, at the Wayback Machine.
    25.Jump up ^ Buursma, Bruce. "Religion; Peale's still a positive power", Chicago Tribune, Oct 27, 1984, pg. 8. Retrieved from Proquest.UMI.com, Historical Newspapers — Chicago Tribune (1849–1986), on September 17, 2007.
    26.Jump up ^ Answers.com, from Britannica Concise Encyclopedia starting with In 1960 ...
    27.Jump up ^ H. Larry Ingle, Nixon's First Cover-up: The Religious Life of a Quaker President, pp. 101-06 University of Missouri Press, 2015, ISBN 978-0-8262-2042-4
    28.^ Jump up to: a b "The Power Of Negative Thinking", Time, September 19, 1960.
    29.Jump up ^ William F. Buckley, "We Hold These Truths", National Review, January 28, 1961.
    30.^ Jump up to: a b "Beliefs", New York Times, October 31, 1992.
    31.Jump up ^ Hayes Minnick, BFT Report No. 565 p. 28
    32.Jump up ^ Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents|Date: 1/3/1994
    33.Jump up ^ "How Norman Vincent Peale Taught Donald Trump to Worship Himself".

    Further reading

    George, Carol, V.R., "God's Salesman: Norman Vincent Peale & the Power of Positive Thinking" (New York: Oxford University Press, 1993), ISBN 0-19-507463-7
    Sherwood, Timothy H. The Rhetorical Leadership of Fulton J. Sheen, Norman Vincent Peale, and Billy Graham in the Age of Extremes (Lexington Books; 2013) 158 pages


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    I respect genuine religious devotion and experience (even in its erroneous forms). But how do we really determine right and wrong -- truth and error?? I sense and suspect a lot of greed, fear, superstition, and superiority in religion. I sense and suspect precious little open and honest research and reflection. I have certainly not been rewarded for mine. Just the opposite. Also -- look at the tortured corpses of history. It's NOT a pretty-picture. I tend to think that studying religion is MUCH different than being subservient to it. I understand that we need inspiration, morality, and continuity -- but often religion does NOT properly provide any of these. The politics and religion of the world often seem to be designed to maximize confusion, conflict, and the bottom-line. There might be legitimate motivation and rational behind the "way things are" -- but often this is a difficult position to defend. I'm presently a "shell of a guy" -- and I'm NOT kidding. I plan to privately study what I've posted on the Mists for the next couple of years -- and then re-emerge with a somewhat serious and circumspect approach to life, the universe, and everything. If there's some sort of a "crackdown" there might not be much of a choice in the matter. In a very real sense "Shut-up and Get Back to Work" might be the best modus-operandi going-forward. I've been told that "They're NOT Happy" -- and I think I might know what was implied in that warning. Well, I think I'm even "LESS Happy". I knew a VERY smart theology-student in college -- who had high-profile church-administrator parents. He said he was going to learn everything he could from Dr. Fred Veltman. A few years later, this young theologian was a Very Unhappy Bartender -- and I think I might know why. This life is not just fun and games. There seems to be a very dark and troubling underlying reality to life, the universe, and everything. I've irreverently poked and prodded at this unsettling-matter -- and I wish I hadn't. Some things are better left undisturbed. Solving the world's problems -- and figuring things out -- are SO Overrated. Perhaps Ignorance really is Bliss and Virtue. Perhaps being a "Completely Ignorant Fool" isn't such a bad-thing after-all. World Without End. Amen.

    NANUXII wrote:
    Carol wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:
    Carol wrote:Have you ever thought that to share in the body and blood of Christ, communion is to become one in spiritual frequency. That has been my personal experience of this and even when reading the text as one of the lecturer during the mass I would feel this spiritual energy descend and fill me up. So the ritual itself is one of an invitation to share at an energetic level the spiritual compassion that Christ represents.

    Now onto the next level of discussion. Once while sitting meditating in church I did have the experience of viewing Christ descend and being held within his embrace. (a father holding his child and child holding his father) There are no words to describe that experience as every nano particle of my "beingness" conscious awareness vibrated at a level of pure acceptance and compassion. Not before or since has such a divine situation present itself. Without a shadow of a doubt I know Christ exists. As for religion.. I'm not all that impressed with the politics of any religion nor particularly are in favor of any of them. To me the spiritual experience is where one is uplifted into higher vibrational frequencies so that our experience on the planet and with each other takes on an element of something that is precious as compared to the daily experience ho hum.

    I don't think of Christ as an intellectual exercise but only as something that can be experience though the heart at a level of pure compassion.  
    Hey Carol , ive had the same experience when i was young , the christ enter or decend to my body , my gf at the time saw it , she could see aura etc and i felt it , it was an amazing experience but i wasnt in church and it was 6 years after i renounced catholocism which is interesting.

    So i would whole heartedly agree about sharing the christ conciousness but i have a problem with him being depicted as crucified, then eating his flesh and drinking his blood. There is no other religion on earth other than satanism that asks you to do such things..

    I think of it this way , if i was a John F Kennedy devotee and started a church in his name to celebrate all the good things he did before he was crucified ..i mean assasinated .. would i have a photo of him over the altar with his head blown off and ask people to eat his brains and drink his blood ?  that would be celebrating the assasination not his life and good deeds, No ?  So putting it in that context i think it makes more of a point ( as crude as it is ) , .. i know the ritual has been shrowded in mystic metaphore but it just dosent add up at least for me it dosent , and i apologise for offending any catholics out there.

    http://www.openminds.tv/lucifer-is-helping-vatican-astronomers-look-for-extraterrestrials-970/19968

    No, not offended. The ritual itself when holding the host up is to ask that Christ Consciousness descend and enter into the representation of the body (a wafer) and blood (wine). It's only a representation to become one in spirit with the Divine.

    perhaps research Tsarion on the rituals of the catholics who have a long history of evil doings, this is most definitely a celebration of rityal sacrifice identicle to that of satanism.

    Is there any reference to it in the bible ?  does it say to do this ?  im curious

    and why is he depicted srucified ?  that makes no sence  
    I've used that JFK example, NANAXII. Did you think of that independently?? If so, it's interesting that more than one person would think in those terms. Job through Daniel needs to be properly understood -- prior to moving-on to other portions of Sacred-Scripture and Religious-Matters (in my view). But really -- why should we trust anything regarding history (sacred or secular)?? The newspapers routinely give us misinformation regarding events which occurred the previous day -- so what about antiquity and the otherworldly?? Does the Bible tell us to go to church on Sunday?? Does the Bible tell us to celebrate the Mass?? Does the Bible give us a description of the Mass?? Here's something to think about. What if the New Testament were held to the Five "Solae" of the Protestant-Reformation?? Does the Old-Testament (properly understood) really support the New Testament?? Was the New Testament essentially "made-up"?? Do the Old and New Testaments (properly understood) really support the theology, ritual, and law of the Roman Catholic Church?? Is it mostly "made-up"?? More importantly -- who has really been at the very-top of the Roman Catholic Church throughout its history?? I keep getting the sinking-feeling that it is a corrupted-version of an idealistic-plan. I keep getting the sinking-feeling that "The Antichrist" has been running Planet-Earth for thousands of years. I continue to toy with the idea that the original-administrator of Earth ("Christ") was replaced by a tougher and nastier administrator ("Antichrist") many thousands of years ago (long before the Roman Catholic Church was invented). Perhaps this was necessary (as crazy as THAT sounds). Things might be bad -- no matter who rules (good or bad). I'll try to take a break -- and then I guess I'll just keep on bi+ching (for better or worse -- I know not). Perhaps I don't want a solution. Perhaps I just wish to bi+ch. Perhaps I'm just a royal-model ankle-biting Pain in Uranus. Perhaps it takes all kinds -- but why?? Consider those five "solae".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_solae The solas (occasionally, solae) of the Protestant Reformation are a set of principles held by theologians and churchmen to be central to that period of change in the western Christian church.[1][2][3][4] Each sola -- from the Latin meaning "alone" or "only" -- represents a key belief in Christian faith held by the Protestant reformers in contradistinction to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church of the day. The Reformers claimed that the Roman Catholic Church, especially its head, the Pope, had usurped divine attributes or qualities for the Church and its hierarchy. The precise number of solas varies among commentators, but lists specifying three and five are common.

    The solas were not systematically articulated together until the 20th century. But sola gratia and sola fide were used in conjunction by the Reformers themselves. For example, in 1554 Melanchthon wrote, "sola gratia justificamus et sola fide justificamur"[5] ("only by grace do you justify and only by faith are we justified"). All of the solas show up in various writings by the Protestant Reformers, but they are not catalogued together by any.[6]

    In 1916, Lutheran scholar Theodore Engelder published an article titled "The Three Principles of the Reformation: Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Sola Fides", ("only scripture, only grace, only faith").[1] In 1934, theologian Emil Brunner substituted Soli Deo gloriam for Sola Scriptura.[7] In 1958, historian Geoffrey Elton, summarizing the work of John Calvin, wrote that Calvin had "joined together" the "great watchwords." Elton listed sola fide with sola gratia as one term, followed by sola scriptura and soli Deo gloria.[8] Later, in commenting on Karl Barth's theological system, Brunner added Christus solus to the litany of solas[9] while leaving out sola scriptura. The first time the additional two solas are mentioned is in Johann Baptiste Metz's 1965, The Church and the World.[10]

    In most of the earliest articulations of the solas, three were typically specified: scripture over tradition, faith over works, and grace over merit, each intended to represent an important distinction compared with Catholic doctrine.[1]

    Sola Scriptura, or "scripture alone," asserts that scripture must govern over church traditions and interpretations which are themselves held to be subject to scripture. All church traditions, creeds, and teachings must be in unity with the teachings of scripture as the divinely inspired Word of God.

    Sola Scriptura asserts that the Bible can and is to be interpreted through itself, with one area of Scripture being useful for interpreting others. That scripture can interpret itself is a means by which to show the unity of Scripture as a whole. As all doctrines are formed via scriptural understandings, all doctrines must be found to align with Scripture and as such are then subject to scripture before the believer can begin to apply them.

    This particular sola is sometimes called the formal principle of the Reformation, since it is the source and norm of the material cause or principle, the gospel of Jesus Christ that is received sola fide ("through faith alone") sola gratia (by God's favor or "grace alone"). The adjective (sola) and the noun (scriptura) are in the ablative case rather than the nominative case to indicate that the Bible does not stand alone apart from God, but rather that it is the instrument of God by which he reveals himself for salvation through faith in Christ (solus Christus or solo Christo).

    Sola fide, or "faith alone", asserts that good works are not a means or requisite for salvation. Sola fide is the teaching that justification (interpreted in Protestant theology as "being declared just by God") is received by faith alone, without any need for good works on the part of the individual. In classical Protestant theology, good works are seen to be evidence of saving faith, but the good works themselves do not determine salvation. Some Protestants see this doctrine as being summarized with the formula "Faith yields justification and good works" and as contrasted with the Roman Catholic formula "Faith and good works yield justification." The Catholic side of the argument is based on James 2:14-17. "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." (James 2:14-17, NKJV)

    In understanding Sola fide, it is important to understand the nuances of difference between Catholic and Protestant notions of the term "justification". Both groups agree that the term invokes a communication of Christ's merits to sinners, not a declaration of sinlessness; Luther used the expression simul justus et peccator ("at the same time justified and a sinner"). However, Roman Catholicism sees justification as a communication of God's life to a human being, cleansing him of sin and transforming him truly into a son of God, so that it is not merely a declaration, but rather the soul is made actually objectively righteous. The Protestant view of justification, by contrast, is that it is the work of God through the means of grace. Faith is the righteousness of God that is accomplished in us through word and sacraments. Law and gospel work to kill the sinful self and to accomplish the new creation within us. This new creation within us is the faith of Christ. If we do not have this faith, then we are ungodly. Indulgences or human prayers add nothing—they are nothing. Everyone has some kind of faith — usually a faith in themselves. But we need God to continually destroy self-righteous faith and to replace it with the life of Christ. We need the faith that comes from God through law and gospel, word, works and sacraments. In the founding document of the Reformation, the 95 Theses, Luther said that 1.) "When our Lord and Master Jesus Christ said, ‘Repent’ (Matthew 4:17) He willed the entire life of believers to be one of repentance." and 95.) And thus be confident of entering into heaven through many tribulations rather than through the false security of peace (Acts 14:22).

    The true distinction, therefore, between the Protestant and the Catholic view of Justification is not an issue of being "declared righteous" versus being "made righteous", but rather it is the means by which one is Justified. In Catholic theology righteous works are considered meritorious toward salvation in addition to faith, whereas in Protestant theology, righteous works are seen as the result and evidence of a truly Justified and Regenerate believer who has received these by Faith Alone. The actual effectual means by which a person receives Justification is also a fundamental division between Catholic and Protestant belief. In Catholic theology, the means by which Justification is applied to the soul is the Sacrament of Baptism. In Baptism, even of infants, the grace of Justification and Sanctification is "infused" into the soul, making the recipient Justified even before he has exercised his own faith (or indeed in the case of an infant who is baptized, before he even has the ability to consciously understand the Gospel and respond with faith). In Catholic theology, faith is not a prerequisite to Justification. For the Catholic, baptism functions "ex opere operato" or "by the working of the act", and thus is the efficient and sufficient act to bring about Justification. In Protestant theology, however the Faith of the individual is absolutely necessary and is itself the efficient and sufficient response of the individual that effects Justification.

    The Sola fide doctrine is sometimes called the material cause or principle of the Reformation because it was the central doctrinal issue for Martin Luther and the other reformers. Luther called it the "doctrine by which the church stands or falls" (Latin, articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae).

    Sola gratia, or "only grace", specifically excludes the merit done by a person as part of achieving salvation. Sola gratia is the teaching that salvation comes by divine grace or "unmerited favor" only, not as something merited by the sinner. This means that salvation is an unearned gift from God for Jesus' sake. Some[who?] refer to it as a "de-earned" gift since unbelievers lived in such a way as to forfeit any gift from God. While some maintain that this doctrine is the opposite of "works' righteousness" and conflicts with some of the aspects of the Roman Catholic doctrine of merit, it might be asserted that this article, taken at face value, conflicts in no way with Roman Catholic teaching; while the doctrine that grace is truly and always a gift of God is held in agreement between both views, the difference in doctrine lies mainly in two facts: that of God as sole actor in grace (in other words, that grace is always efficacious without any cooperation by man), and second, that man cannot by any action of his own, acting under the influence of grace, cooperate with grace to "merit" greater graces for himself (the latter would be the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church). This doctrine asserts divine monergism in salvation: God acts alone to save the sinner. The responsibility for salvation does not rest on the sinner to any degree as in "synergism" or Arminianism. Lutheranism holds that this doctrine must not be maintained to the exclusion of gratia universalis (that God seriously wills the salvation of all people).

    Protestant Arminians may also claim the doctrine of sola gratia (but understand it differently) and generally deny the term "synergism" is appropriate to describe their beliefs. Arminians believe that God saves only by grace and not at all by merit, but man, enabled by what is referred to as "prevenient grace", is enabled by the Holy Spirit to understand the Gospel and respond in faith. Arminians believe that this is compatible with salvation by grace alone, since all the actual saving is done by grace. Arminians believe that humans are only capable of receiving salvation when first enabled to do so by prevenient grace, which they believe is distributed to everyone. Arminians therefore do not reject the conception of sola gratia expounded by the Reformation theologians.[11]

    By the middle of the 20th Century, it became common to see the original list of three increased to create five solas. The additions were "Christ alone" and "Glory to God alone".

    "Only Christ" excludes the priestly class as necessary for sacraments. Solus Christus is the teaching that Christ is the only mediator between God and man, and that there is salvation through no other (hence, the phrase is sometimes rendered in the ablative case, solo Christo, meaning that salvation is "by Christ alone"). While rejecting all other mediators between God and man, classical Lutheranism continues to honor the memory of the Virgin Mary and other exemplary saints. This principle rejects "sacerdotalism," which is the belief that there are no sacraments in the church without the services of priests ordained by apostolic succession.The Catholic Church teaches that lay people, and even unbaptized people, can validly baptize, and may do so in an emergency, and that the ministers of the sacrament of matrimony are the people getting married, not the priest, who is only a witness to the marriage, albeit a witness legally required in the modern Western Catholic church. Other sacraments, according to Catholic doctrine, essentially require a bishop or at least a priest in order to be valid. Martin Luther taught the "general priesthood of the baptized," which was modified in later Lutheranism and classical Protestant theology into "the priesthood of all believers," denying the exclusive use of the title "priest" (Latin, sacerdos) to the clergy. This principle does not deny the office of the holy ministry to which is committed the public proclamation of the Gospel and the administration of the sacraments. In this way, Luther in his Small Catechism could speak of the role of "a confessor" to confer sacramental absolution on a penitent. The section in this catechism known as "The Office of the Keys" (not written by Luther but added with his approval) identifies the "called ministers of Christ" as being the ones who exercise the binding and loosing of absolution and excommunication through Law and Gospel ministry. This is laid out in the Lutheran formula of holy absolution: the "called and ordained servant of the Word" forgives penitents' sins (speaks Christ's words of forgiveness: "I forgive you all your sins") without any addition of penances or satisfactions and not as an interceding or mediating "priest," but "by virtue of [his] office as a called and ordained servant of the Word" and "in the stead and by the command of [his] Lord Jesus Christ" [The Lutheran Hymnal, (St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1941), p. 16]. In this tradition absolution reconciles the penitent with God directly through faith in Christ's forgiveness rather than with the priest and the church as mediating entities between the penitent and God.

    Soli Deo gloria means "glory to God alone" and it stands in opposition to the veneration or "cult", perceived by many to be present in the Roman Catholic Church, of Mary the mother of Jesus, the saints, or angels. Soli Deo gloria is the teaching that all glory is to be due to God alone, since salvation is accomplished solely through His will and action — not only the gift of the all-sufficient atonement of Jesus on the cross but also the gift of faith in that atonement, created in the heart of the believer by the Holy Spirit. The reformers believed that human beings —even saints canonized by the Roman Catholic Church, the popes, and the ecclesiastical hierarchy— are not worthy of the glory that was accorded them; that is, one should not exalt such humans for their good works, but rather praise and give glory to God who is the author and sanctifier of these people and their good works. It is not clear the extent to which such inappropriate veneration is actually approved by the Roman Catholic Church and so the extent to which this Sola is one of justified opposition is unclear. The Roman Catholic's official position, for example as described in the documents of the Second Vatican Council, make it clear that God alone is deserving of glory.

    More recently, certain Anglican scholars have suggested that there should be a further two additional solas on the list, bringing the total to seven: Sola ecclesia ("the Church alone") and Sola caritas ("Charitable-love alone").[12][13][14]

    Citations

    1.^ Jump up to: a b c Engelder, T. in "Four Hundred Years: Commemorative Essays on the Reformation of Dr. Martin Luther and Its Blessed Results", Prof. W.H.T. Dau (ed), Page 97
    2.Jump up ^ Anderson, Matthew "The Three Reformation Solas and 21st Century Ethical Issues"
    3.Jump up ^ Cary, Phillip "Great Minds of the Western Intellectual Tradition", Chapter 24: Calvin and Protestantism
    4.Jump up ^ Lutheran Ministerium and Synod - USA, "The Solas of the Reformation"
    5.Jump up ^ Melancthon, Works, 357
    6.Jump up ^ Jacob Corzine, cited in Theology is Eminently Practical
    7.Jump up ^ Emil Brunner, The Mediator, p. 295
    8.Jump up ^ Geoffrey Elton, The New Cambridge Modern History, 118
    9.Jump up ^ Brunner, Dogmatics, 221
    10.Jump up ^ Metz, Johan Baptiste "The Church and the World", 143
    11.Jump up ^ See "Myth 7: Arminianism Is Not a Theology of Grace" in Roger E Olsen, Arminian Theology: Myths and Realities, 2006.
    12.Jump up ^ Bruce Atkins, The Seven Solas: Toward Reconciling Evangelical and Anglo-Catholic Perspectives
    13.Jump up ^ Rich Leonardi, Sola fide? Sola caritas
    14.Jump up ^ Michael J. Glodo, Sola Ecclesia: The Lost Reformation Doctrine

    References

    Articles on the Five Solas – from a conservative Calvinistic perspective
    FiveSolas.com – a Reformed page devoted to the Solas
    "What do Lutherans believe?" – a Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod exposition of three of the solas
    Hahn, Scott; Knudson, Robert, The Justification Debate, archived from the original on 2011-01-04, retrieved 4 November 2012
    Reformed Theology, by R. Michael Allen, Continuum International Publishing Group, 2010, p. 77

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    UNPRECEDENTED COSMIC WAVE TO IMPACT EARTH IN LATE SEPTEMBER 2015 - ARCHANGEL MICHAEL WEBSITE

    http://micahangel.weebly.com/michaels-blog/unprecedented-cosmic-wave-to-impact-earth-in-late-september-2015

    You should know by now I only believe it AFTER the fact as the whole prediction thingy has been so off for so many years that I only post this for the entertainment factor alone.
    lol!
    orthodoxymoron wrote:


    B.B.Baghor wrote:
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    www.magneticreversal.org

    No prediction, just presenting facts.



    Carol's words: "I only post this for the entertainment factor alone" lol!

    I agree with you, Carol, that often these news items prove later to be a storm in a cup of tea....
    and also I'm with you, in believing AFTER the fact. Haven't we been fed this sort of "entertainment" for aeons,
    by our parents, vicars, ministers, governments, the cinema and the telly, causing us to grow into a state of
    fear and survival, many of us finds themselves in now?
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I continue to think that studying the World-Wars and the Nazi-Phenomenon is MOST Instructive. Predictive-Prophecy is Shifting-Sand. I combine Biblical-Prophecy with Science-Fiction -- but I don't shout "FIRE!!" in crowded internet-forums!! I simply live a life of "quiet-desperation"...
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    Re: The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Book Two)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:29 pm

    I wonder if a "Reintroduced Good-Guy" would be labeled "The Antichrist"?! Would they be expected to take the "Ancient Bad-Guy" out -- and make things "The Way They Were Before the War (Status Quo Ante Bellum)"?? Or would they be expected to make a gradual reformation -- leading from the "Way Things Are" to "The Way Things Should Be"?? I think I've walked into a Spiritual-War largely naïve and unprepared. I've created several threads as sort of a Toccata -- and now I think I need to silently compose the Fugue. I'm honestly going to try to not post for a while. BTW -- I honestly and originally posted a JFK example similar to yours (approximately five years ago). I think it was on my www.redletterchurch.net website (which was removed from my ownership -- even though I was paid-up several years in advance -- and the web-address subsequently completely removed from the internet). Luckily -- I had a copy of the contents of that site which I have reposted on this website. I'll see if I can locate that JFK example. Here is an old Red Letter Church thread on the long-closed original Project Avalon site. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13495&highlight=letter+church  I still can't find that JFK example. I didn't include the brains part. I basically described post-offices featuring pictures of the JFK assassination as being an inappropriate way of honoring John Fitzgerald Kennedy. A crucifix seems to depict a Defeated God -- rather than a Victorious and Glorious God. But really -- is there Biblical and Theological consistency regarding Jesus as God (as being as much God as God the Father)?? If Jesus is God -- why does he have to intercede between Humanity and God?? Is Jesus a Local-God and/or a Universal-God?? Are the Four-Gospels 100% Gospel-Truth?? BTW -- here is a more complete version of Red Letter Church (within this website from around 2010). http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1040-red-letter-church?highlight=red+letter+church My thinking has changed a bit (for better or worse -- I know not) -- but I'm leaving everything "As-Is" for the record. Consider the following four Ellen White books (in the following order) as being an alternate view of "Christ".

    1. Prophets and Kings.
    2. Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing.
    3. Christ's Object Lessons.
    4. The Acts of the Apostles.

    The composite-view consists of interesting Christology, Soteriology, and Eschatology. I might not post again -- for several days -- for several weeks -- for several months -- for several years -- or for all eternity.

    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    Jesus: Fundamental to This Year of Extraordinary Change is the Expansion of Heart Consciousness
    April 19, 2016 by Therese Zumi Sumner




    Counciloflove.com, April 16, 2016


    Greetings, I am Jesus Sananda. Yes, Master, Keeper of the Magenta Flame, and yes, in trinity with the Buddha, with Maitreya, my brother of the East, Horseman of the East, many ways related to Archangel Uriel, Bringer of the Future, and my brothers and sisters, the future is now.

    I have said to thee that 2016 is a year of extraordinary change, and those changes, beloveds, are well underway. Open your eyes, open your heart and look around.

    What is the extraordinary change? What is the most extraordinary change? The change is you. The change is within the hearts and minds and will and alignment of the human beings, of the collective, as they step forth in their knowing and their beingness of love and the action of love. And whether that action is standing, sitting, lying perfectly still and transmitting out to 7 billion people or whether it is nurturing a child or working with the sick and lame, it matters not because   of awareness, of the acceptance of surrender and the implementation, integration, of your interdimensional, multidimensional selves.

    Now, what does this mean in the practical terms that we have so often spoken about? It means, sweet angels, that you are taking the time, the consciousness, to align with Universal Law. Your entire planet, and far beyond the omniverse is governed, as designed by the Mother’s pattern and will, by Universal Law. We have shared this with thee time and time again and certainly Sanat Kumara continues to implement and work this with each and every one of you.

    But it is the conscious choosing – I now work with the Law of Attraction and Repulsion; I now work with the Law of Above and Below, Within and Without; I work with the Law of Transmutation and Transformation; I work with the Law of Change; I work with the Law of Elimination.

    And you work with these laws, not only in tandem with your sacred self and your stranger, but with the entire collective. You are using these laws and the energy that fuels these laws, which is love, to change the entire planet and far beyond.

    When you come from a place of heart knowingness, of heart centeredness, you have already completed most of your ascension. It has never been about departure from this planet. It has always been about the restoration of our Mother’s Plan upon this planet of love, to be the embodiment, the experience and expression of love, of being a planet where angels come to play and to know what human experience looks, feels, smells, and tastes like.

    Have you endured? Yes. But, have you embraced the joy, the satisfaction, the knowing, the play, the fullness of your adventure as yet? No. That is what you are beginning, yes beginning to do. You say, “But Lord, I have been at this for 40 years, 20 years, 10 years, 2 months.” It matters not. Sweet angels you are still at the beginning. Yes, you are in the brackets of this lifetime, but in the infinite, eternal experience of the Mother and what is possible to experience and know in terms of love, in terms of alignment, of creation of Nova Earth and Nova Being, you are at the beginning.

    I do not say this in the way of minimizing or dismissing your efforts. I say this to encourage you, to say to you, “There is so much more. There is so much more joy, more love, more trust, more compassion, more grace.”

    And you know what the result of that is? It isn’t sitting around in a church or a temple or a cave feeling holy. It’s walking the streets with each other hugging and skipping and laughing – laughing so hard that you are rolling on the floor. That you are so excited that you can’t wait for the next day because you know the unfoldment lies in front of you. And that the adventure is so big and so much fun, and everything that you have ever dreamed of, that you are embracing it wholeheartedly.

    And you are saying to me, to the Mother, to the Father, to the One, to the entire Council, “Bring it on!” This is not simply about the refined pattern of balance. This is about you claiming your birthright, living your birthright, dancing your birthright of joy.

    The extraordinary change is you waking up every morning and knowing how deeply you are loved and loveable, and that we, you and I, are in sacred union, sacred partnership and that you, in your divinity, are the expression of love in form, that you give, receive, and are the awe and the wonder of that expression and that experience.

    Look for the extraordinary change within you and then look, observe, and participate in the extraordinary changes around you. They are there. Identify, expand, embrace and keep going. And go with my love. Farewell.

    Channeled by Linda Dillon 04-16-16
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    Re: The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Book Two)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:40 pm


    Regarding The Hidden Story of Jesus -- what and/or where is the Old, Old Story of Jesus and His Love in the Old Testament (as the Pre-Incarnate Second-Member of the Trinity)?? Regarding The Hidden Story of Jesus -- what and/or where is the Old, Old Story of Jesus and His Love (As Told in the Four-Gospels) in Acts Through Revelation?? I'm frankly disillusioned by Theology As Usual -- and by Flowery New Age Mumbo-Jumbo. I've tried Unorthodox-Approaches (with mixed-results) over the past several years -- and I've finally ended-up taking a closer-look at what the scholars from the Church of My Youth were writing in the 1950's (as backward and uninteresting as THAT sounds)!! I've linked this study to Sacred Classical Music -- Classical Church-Architecture -- and Natural-Farming (as old and odd as THAT sounds)!! I think things are going to get REALLY screwed-up for a while -- as the Info-War intensifies. There's probably no nice and delicate way to do this. Unfortunately, a lot of fine people and not so fine people are going to get hurt. I've already been badly-burned.

    I recently made a couple of posts on another website -- which were almost immediately deleted without explanation. The posts mirrored some aspects of my last few posts on The Mists. They were small and sterile compared to what I routinely post on this site -- but I sort of expected the censorship -- judging from past experience. I won't be posting on that site anymore -- which I'm sure will not cause weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Just the opposite. I should've learned my lesson from past bad-experiences involving misuse and abuse. There's nothing quite like Christian Love!! To top it off -- an individual of interest didn't show-up as expected -- and I think I might know why. I'm sorry about my posting. I am quite bold and forward -- yet I am also quite neutral and emotionless. I reveal things without rancor. I never tell anyone they're "going to hell" or the equivalent. I like to think I could talk about the most upsetting subjects without losing my cool -- but I know that isn't true. I've already been highly-embarrassed -- but I don't think I've seen anything yet!! I think I've been extremely sheltered and/or ignored. I think any sort of "hot-seat" would destroy me. I'm a slow and methodical (research and reflect) kind of guy. I never feel the need to lead -- but I often feel the need for information and access. I'm increasingly feeling the need to retreat into some illusion of privacy and safety (even though I know there is no such thing anymore). I think I've made myself extremely-vulnerable in the past couple of days. Some of this was by accident -- and some of it was by design. I think we've been on the brink for years -- but some sort of severe-meltdown in the next couple of weeks or months wouldn't surprise me one little bit. I've been somewhat critical of Solar-System Administration (ancient and modern) yet I've mostly been engaging in a process of Discovery rather than Condemnation and Damnation. Reprehensible-Governance Methodologies and Realities might be Inevitable -- Regardless of Idealism and Competence (Or Lack Thereof).

    Check this out!! http://www.lifeassuranceministries.com/pdf%20files/Cottrell%201844.pdf It's probably fortunate that a lot of my posts are speculative, unsubstantiated, and science-fictional. If they were substantiated-fact, we'd all be in a hell of a lot of trouble!! It's going to be a relief to stop modeling strange ideas and personalities!! I have a huge amount of reading to do!! I'm going to try to not spend much time on the internet. I stopped watching television several years ago -- so perhaps I can stop surfing the internet. Becoming a Latter-day Luddite is quite appealing, at this point!! Consider prayerfully and carefully studying Ethics, Law, Law-Enforcement, and the Military in Each of the 66 Books of the Bible -- noting the differences and similarities from book to book. Overall, what is "Biblical" regarding Ethics, Law, Law-Enforcement, and the Military (for Jews, Gentiles, and All-Concerned in Antiquity and Modernity)?? Once again, imagine the intense and disciplined study of Sacred Classical Music and the SDA Bible Commentary in the Context of a Cathedral and/or an Ivy-League University!! What Would Dr. A. Graham Maxwell Say?? What Would HMS Richards Say?? Ellen White meets Notre Dame??!! What Would Marcel Dupre Say?? What Would Dr. Angela Kraft Cross Say?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? What Would Brother Michael Say?? What Would Brother Rich Say?? What Would Sister Angie Say??

    Imagine a School consisting of the Abbey in the Second-Season of Helix which taught Sacred Classical Music -- The SDA Bible Commentary -- and Farming!! This wouldn't necessarily be any religion. It would simply be an experiment. Each-Day might be a combination of a School-Day -- Sabbath-Day -- and a Work-Day with Meditative-Work!! I work on the Sabbath -- but it's Meditative-Work -- which doesn't make it OK -- but it might not be NOT OK in someone's reckoning!! What I'm suggesting is probably nearly impossible. It might work on another planet -- but probably not on this one!! Still -- I think there is a logical-purity connected with this concept!! I'm not going to explain or elaborate -- but someone might understand what I'm talking about!! Living this life might be Heaven on Earth -- but would it prepare one for the Real-World?? Probably Not!! My Final-Answer is Probably "Reading the SDA Bible Commentary straight-through (over and over) while listening to Sacred Classical Music -- in one's own way and time -- plus nothing." Perhaps I should leave it at that -- and just move on. I think I've made a mess of things -- and perhaps I should simply cease and desist for the remainder of this incarnation. Another Thing. Consider "Commandments" from Genesis to Revelation. One Last Thing. Think long and hard about the last dozen posts. Long and Hard Indeed...

    Commandments www.biblerick.com/c511.htm#c511

    01-GENESIS

    01-26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

    02-EXODUS

    02-15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

    02-16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?

    02-20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

    02-24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

    02-34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

    03-LEVITICUS

    03-4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:

    03-4:13 And if the whole congregation of Israel sin through ignorance, and the thing be hid from the eyes of the assembly, and they have done somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which should not be done, and are guilty;

    03-4:22 When a ruler hath sinned, and done somewhat through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD his God concerning things which should not be done, and is guilty;

    03-4:27 And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty;

    03-5:17 And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.

    03-22:31 Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the LORD.

    03-26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

    03-26:14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;

    03-26:15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:

    03-27:34 These are the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses for the children of Israel in mount Sinai.

    04-NUMBERS

    04-15:22 And if ye have erred, and not observed all these commandments, which the LORD hath spoken unto Moses,

    04-15:39 And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:

    04-15:40 That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God.

    04-36:13 These are the commandments and the judgments, which the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses unto the children of Israel in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho.

    05-DEUTERONOMY

    05-4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

    05-4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

    05-4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.

    05-5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

    05-5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

    05-5:31 But as for thee, stand thou here by me, and I will speak unto thee all the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which thou shalt teach them, that they may do them in the land which I give them to possess it.

    05-6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:

    05-6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.

    05-6:17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

    05-6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

    05-7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

    05-7:11 Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.

    05-8:1 All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers.

    05-8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.

    05-8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.

    05-8:11 Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day:

    05-10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.

    05-10:13 To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?

    05-11:1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.

    05-11:8 Therefore shall ye keep all the commandments which I command you this day, that ye may be strong, and go in and possess the land, whither ye go to possess it;

    05-11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,

    05-11:22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;

    05-11:27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:

    05-11:28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.

    05-13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

    05-13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

    05-15:5 Only if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all these commandments which I command thee this day.

    05-19:9 If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:

    05-26:13 Then thou shalt say before the LORD thy God, I have brought away the hallowed things out of mine house, and also have given them unto the Levite, and unto the stranger, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten them:

    05-26:17 Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:

    05-26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;

    05-27:1 And Moses with the elders of Israel commanded the people, saying, Keep all the commandments which I command you this day.

    05-27:10 Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

    05-28:1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

    05-28:9 The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.

    05-28:13 And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them:

    05-28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

    05-28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

    05-30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.

    05-30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

    05-30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

    05-31:5 And the LORD shall give them up before your face, that ye may do unto them according unto all the commandments which I have commanded you.

    06-JOSHUA

    06-22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    07-JUDGES

    07-2:17 And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the LORD; but they did not so.

    07-3:4 And they were to prove Israel by them, to know whether they would hearken unto the commandments of the LORD, which he commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses.

    09-1 SAMUEL

    09-15:11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

    11-1 KINGS

    11-2:3 And keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:

    11-3:14 And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.

    11-6:12 Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:

    11-8:58 That he may incline our hearts unto him, to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and his statutes, and his judgments, which he commanded our fathers.

    11-8:61 Let your heart therefore be perfect with the LORD our God, to walk in his statutes, and to keep his commandments, as at this day.

    11-9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:

    11-11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant’s sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

    11-11:38 And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right in my sight, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee.

    11-14:8 And rent the kingdom away from the house of David, and gave it thee: and yet thou hast not been as my servant David, who kept my commandments, and who followed me with all his heart, to do that only which was right in mine eyes;

    11-18:18 And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father’s house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim.

    12-2 KINGS

    12-17:13 Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.

    12-17:16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

    12-17:19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

    12-18:6 For he clave to the LORD, and departed not from following him, but kept his commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses.

    12-23:3 And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.

    13-1 CHRONICLES

    13-28:7 Moreover I will establish his kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.

    13-28:8 Now therefore in the sight of all Israel the congregation of the LORD, and in the audience of our God, keep and seek for all the commandments of the LORD your God: that ye may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance for your children after you for ever.

    13-29:19 And give unto Solomon my son a perfect heart, to keep thy commandments, thy testimonies, and thy statutes, and to do all these things, and to build the palace, for the which I have made provision.

    14-2 CHRONICLES

    14-7:19 But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;

    14-17:4 But sought to the LORD God of his father, and walked in his commandments, and not after the doings of Israel.

    14-24:20 And the Spirit of God came upon Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest, which stood above the people, and said unto them, Thus saith God, Why transgress ye the commandments of the LORD, that ye cannot prosper? because ye have forsaken the LORD, he hath also forsaken you.

    14-31:21 And in every work that he began in the service of the house of God, and in the law, and in the commandments, to seek his God, he did it with all his heart, and prospered.

    14-34:31 And the king stood in his place, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments, and his testimonies, and his statutes, with all his heart, and with all his soul, to perform the words of the covenant which are written in this book.

    15-EZRA

    15-7:11 Now this is the copy of the letter that the king Artaxerxes gave unto Ezra the priest, the scribe, even a scribe of the words of the commandments of the LORD, and of his statutes to Israel.

    15-9:10 And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken thy commandments,

    15-9:14 Should we again break thy commandments, and join in affinity with the people of these abominations? wouldest not thou be angry with us till thou hadst consumed us, so that there should be no remnant nor escaping?

    16-NEHEMIAH

    16-1:5 And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:

    16-1:7 We have dealt very corruptly against thee, and have not kept the commandments, nor the statutes, nor the judgments, which thou commandedst thy servant Moses.

    16-1:9 But if ye turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, yet will I gather them from thence, and will bring them unto the place that I have chosen to set my name there.

    16-9:13 Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:

    16-9:16 But they and our fathers dealt proudly, and hardened their necks, and hearkened not to thy commandments,

    16-9:29 And testifiedst against them, that thou mightest bring them again unto thy law: yet they dealt proudly, and hearkened not unto thy commandments, but sinned against thy judgments, (which if a man do, he shall live in them;) and withdrew the shoulder, and hardened their neck, and would not hear.

    16-9:34 Neither have our kings, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.

    16-10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God’s law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

    19-PSALMS

    19-78:7 That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:

    19-89:31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;

    19-103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

    19-103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

    19-111:7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.

    19-111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

    19-112:1 Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.

    19-119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.

    19-119:10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.

    19-119:19 I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.

    19-119:21 Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

    19-119:32 I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart.

    19-119:35 Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight.

    19-119:47 And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved.

    19-119:48 My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes.

    19-119:60 I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments.

    19-119:66 Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.

    19-119:73 JOD. Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments.

    19-119:86 All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help thou me.

    19-119:98 Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.

    19-119:115 Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God.

    19-119:127 Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.

    19-119:131 I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for thy commandments.

    19-119:143 Trouble and anguish have taken hold on me: yet thy commandments are my delights.

    19-119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

    19-119:166 LORD, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.

    19-119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

    19-119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

    20-PROVERBS

    20-2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

    20-3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:

    20-4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.

    20-7:1 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

    20-7:2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

    20-10:8 The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.

    21-ECCLESIASTES

    21-12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

    23-ISAIAH

    23-48:18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:

    27-DANIEL

    27-9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

    30-AMOS

    30-2:4 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have despised the law of the LORD, and have not kept his commandments, and their lies caused them to err, after the which their fathers have walked:

    40-Matthew

    40-5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    40-15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    40-19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

    40-22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    41-Mark

    41-7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    41-10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

    41-12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

    42-Luke

    42-1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

    42-18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

    43-John

    43-14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    43-14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

    43-15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

    44-Acts

    44-1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

    46-1 Corinthians

    46-7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

    46-14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

    49-Ephesians

    49-2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

    51-Colossians

    51-2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

    51-4:10 Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister’s son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him;)

    52-1 Thessalonians

    52-4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

    56-Titus

    56-1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

    62-1 John

    62-2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    62-2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    62-3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

    62-3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    62-5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

    62-5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    63-2 John

    63-1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

    66-Revelation

    66-12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    66-14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    66-22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.












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    Re: The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Book Two)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:50 pm

    B.B.Baghor wrote:I'm not much interested in Bible texts anymore, since I fell in the cauldron of my father's church institute, as a minister's daughter. I can't drink from that goblet, I'm not allowed to, just like Obelix is refused to drink from the magic potion for strength. Neither do I feel inclined to take charismatic people serious, be it in religious, economic or in banking circles (are they really different?)

    People believe in what they want to believe, by a little persuasion in the direction of where they're already going or marvel at. Helen White, to me, is a woman who seems "touched by the Holy Spirit" in the eyes of her followers and co-workers in church, but she could've been touched by an entity that knew the tricks of the trade in religious matters, its effect on a human herd, meanwhile happy to be nurtured by a nice salad of mixed emotions in greens, reds and yellows, covered with Hallelujah sauce.

    I'm brutally sarcastic, ortho, for I've experienced the process within and of people giving away their willpower and discernment. The power of persuasion is an example of how we, mostly without knowing it, are so much more than our mundane human nature, adorned with skills and qualities that generally are dormant. Those who are awake to the abuse of such powers, are the ones we need to keep on a distance, if we want to be free. Of course I know of the expression "the truth will set you free" but that truth isn't about accepting the authority of a God, on the contrary, it's about self-knowledge and the acceptance of the truth in it.

    Call it the truth as a voice of God within, an inner deity or higher self. No matter what truth, all shades of the rainbow colours are presented to us Earthlings. With all the cards on the table, the game can begin. You may deal the cards and from than on you've got to find your way how to relate to what life begins to show you, with people, things and events affecting you. Than, you need to choose what to do with it and how, there's no manual for life, as I see it. No computer program, no chip.

    I've seen charismatic people in my life, in groups, attending workshops and on stage in front of such groups. When such a person is entering an exalted state due to resonating with higher dimensions and that person isn't properly grown into it with self knowledge, a Messianic behavior appears. That person begins to preach and show siddhis, for having touched that level, briefly. Regarding mindprogramming of a group of people, being in resonance with the "vox populi" isn't necessarily the voice of truth. Still, it's a process of self-hypnosis, happening in each church service all over the world, those that are free excluded from it.

    The text I can relate to much, is the one by Fukuoka. He's the guy who grew his crops and allowed all the weeds to stay on the spot where they grew up, finding the balance in letting them grow or pull them out, used as compost for the crops that were meant to grow up. He believed that the crust of planet Earth should be covered by growth and never barren. I like that a lot. I myself can choose to be a weed happily growing or a weed pulled out in order to nurture other plants. I'm a sunflower  Cheerful
    Thank-you B.B. I understand and appreciate what you said -- and I agree with most of it. I'm simply attempting to reach a level of understanding which is seldom achieved on a Road to Utopia (Less Travelled). I continue to think that it's probably fortunate that very few people (and other than people) resonate with my Pseudo-Intellectual Quest. My ongoing commitment to obscurity and obfuscation is probably absolutely necessary. I think I've stumbled into some pretty crazy stuff (which I'm not prepared to deal with). I've probably already placed way too much on the table -- and I've attempted to put the genie back in the bottle. One more thing. I just noticed that John Sheridan's wife Anna Sheridan (in Babylon 5) was played by Melissa Gilbert (from Little House on the Prairie ). Some of you might know why I might find that somewhat interesting -- but I'm not going to talk about it -- other than to say that I know someone who lived in a Little House on the Prairie.





    B.B.Baghor wrote:You've got a unique way of keeping some of us here intrigued. It's probably not due to charisma but rather the opposite, sort of eyore gloominess, mixed with some ingredient called "I know something that you can't possibly know of" suspense. Tomorrow is the British Queen's 90'th birthday, when I mention her as the last living fossil on the planet, everybody roars with laughter. I've learned to understand the peculiar cynicism towards royalty and government here a little bit. Don't know why I tell you this, for it's entirely off topic. But to return a bit on my steps I end with "God save the Queen!"
    Thank-you B.B. The Mean Queen Theme has everything to do with my internet-posting!! Actually Queen v Queen has everything to do with my internet-posting!! False-Flag or Real-Deal?? If you only knew what I really think about!! What Would Lilith Say?? What Would Joseph Say?? What Would Dr. Who Say?? What Would Eve Say?? What Would the Queen of Sheba Say?? What Would King David's Grand-Daughter Say?? What Would Michael and Gabriel Say?? What Would the Ancient Egyptian Deity Say?? What Would Raven Say?? What Would Jupiter Jones Say?? I HATE this sort of posting -- so why do I do it?? Why am I left to twist slowly, slowly in the wind -- year after year?? I HATE my life. This stuff is so sad and ridiculous -- that it's actually quite funny!! What if "Lucifer" is a job-title rather than a particular-angel?? What if "Christ" is a job-title rather than a particular-deity?? What if Michael and Gabriel have had both titles (at different times)?? Who was the "Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World"?? I continue to think that it might be extremely important to differentiate between a Local-God and the God of the Universe!! What if Local-Gods sometimes exaggerate?? Why am I HATED when I SPECULATE?? Shouldn't we consider ALL Possibilities prior to rendering the most important decisions imaginable??













    B.B.Baghor wrote:Ortho yelling "Shouldn't we consider ALL Possibilities prior to rendering the most important decisions imaginable??"

    I honestly believe that sometimes decisions determine the showing up of possibilities. Or in other words, it's due to a decision that windows of possibilities open, as I perceive in my life. Maybe we should erase the gap or difference between decision and intention, to put that opening in motion? To me, it has everything to do with the willingness or a jump into an unknown space, saying YES to life and afterwards trust that life shows up. Even when in hate, that energy can be used and transformed into its opposite. But than again it's about intention. What would you've liked to happen, before all that happened wasn't to your liking?
    Thank-you B.B. My decision is to consider my internet-posting from every conceivable angle for the rest of my life -- without saying or doing much of anything with the results of my research. The reality is that I'll probably be creating a defense for myself -- simply because I think I might be in more trouble than just about anyone else in the universe (and that's without knowing any of the gory and reprehensible details). It's just a sinking and sickening feeling I just can't shake. Once I exposed myself, I seemed to become a sitting-duck for every Galactic Tom, Dick, and Harry with an Ancient-Grudge (and I wish I were kidding). The Ancient Egyptian Deity said "You're Lucky to be Alive!!" -- "I'm Tired of Keeping You Alive!!" -- and "I Could Snap My Fingers, and You'd be DEAD!!" The AED also thought that even the Women and Children deserved to die in the Ancient Roman Colosseum. They thought people deserved to die presently. They questioned my honesty when I suggested that I wished for things to work out well for All-Concerned. Other individuals of interest have spoken of an Immanent End of the World with 80% of the population NOT Surviving. Just read Genesis through Deuteronomy -- and the Book of Revelation -- for confirmation that Humanity is in HUGE Trouble. I've suggested taking a closer look at 1 Chronicles to Malachi -- and Acts to Ephesians -- which are covered in the SDA Bible Commentary (Volumes 3, 4, 6). I continue to think that the Bible is sort of similar to a Ticking Time-Bomb which must be properly disarmed if we wish to survive. This isn't a matter of "I Love the Bible" or "I Hate the Bible". That might be beside the point. I keep wondering if Gabriel has Humanity by the Balls (possibly for some VERY Legitimate Reasons)??!! But I often wonder if Michael is somehow a Hidden Partner in Crime (possibly for some VERY Legitimate Reasons)??!! Finally, I often wonder if Lucifer is somehow a Phantom Fall-Guy and/or Eschatological-Scapegoat (who might not even exist as a separate and distinct Angelic and/or Demonic Being)??!! But how is a Completely Ignorant Fool supposed to KNOW Anything for Certain (Regarding Antiquity and the Otherworldly)??!! World Without End. Almond Raw.

    "Why You Two-Faced Back-Stabbing S.O.B.!!"
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    Re: The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Book Two)

    Post  B.B.Baghor on Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:12 am

    Your mind goes so very fast that you don't notice signs along the race track or people offering you water to drink.
    It seems to me, that you've allowed others to decide for you who you are, ortho.
    Why not shake yourself out of these dragon scales hidings... ehh.. hides and choose for yourself?
    Who are you, who do you want to be? That's where my question comes from:

    What would you've liked to have happened? Please answer me and use your imagination in a new way?
    Begin a whole new thread called "The new United States of the Solar System by Unorthodox Anonymous".
    Create, describe and share a world you (would) dream to come true (as) if you could make dreams come true.

    I don't expect you to take notice of this question properly and simply continue your running. Maybe that's the
    way it's meant to be, for you: finishing in exhaustion without a clue anymore about where you are, or how, or when.
    But very clear on who you are, at the finish.

    I don't wish you this, but it looks like it may go that way. By the way, pun intended, you're never alone,
    despite of what you may think and declare to be true, ortho. In the end we may have a great laugh about it.
    All of us who are your friends here. I'm almost sure we will, although a good laugh may be far from you now.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:23 pm

    B.B.Baghor wrote:Your mind goes so very fast that you don't notice signs along the race track or people offering you water to drink. It seems to me, that you've allowed others to decide for you who you are, ortho. Why not shake yourself out of these dragon scales hidings... ehh.. hides and choose for yourself? Who are you, who do you want to be? That's where my question comes from:

    What would you've liked to have happened? Please answer me and use your imagination in a new way? Begin a whole new thread called "The new United States of the Solar System by Unorthodox Anonymous". Create, describe and share a world you (would) dream to come true (as) if you could make dreams come true.

    I don't expect you to take notice of this question properly and simply continue your running. Maybe that's the way it's meant to be, for you: finishing in exhaustion without a clue anymore about where you are, or how, or when. But very clear on who you are, at the finish.

    I don't wish you this, but it looks like it may go that way. By the way, pun intended, you're never alone, despite of what you may think and declare to be true, ortho. In the end we may have a great laugh about it. All of us who are your friends here. I'm almost sure we will, although a good laugh may be far from you now.
    Thank-you B.B. I think I might implement your thread suggestion!! Once again, these threads are experiments with modeled concepts and personalities. Who I am on this website is NOT who I am in real-life. Who I am in real-life is NOT who I am on a soul-level. What I would've liked to have happen -- going back to the Garden of Eden -- might've been impossible (right from the beginning). I simply don't have enough completely-accurate historical-information to properly answer your question. I've been reduced to positively-reinforcing that which presently-exists -- and then extrapolating back into antiquity for clues regarding the true-history of this solar-system. I use nature, science, and science-fiction as conceptual-crutches. What I'm NOT seeing is a proper foundation and believable-story in the Book of Genesis and the Garden of Eden. I've been looking at 1 Chronicles to Malachi -- and Acts to Ephesians -- in connection with the SDA Bible Commentary (Volumes 3, 4, 6) for clues regarding what a proper-foundation and believable-story might be. I continue to like the idea of positively-reinforcing Rome -- London -- the United States -- the United Nations -- and Possible Moon Civilizations -- for clues as to how to proceed in modernity -- although some have suggested this would constitute an Unholy-Alliance. My plans are to study my internet-madness to death until I die (which might not give me much time) -- without saying or doing much of anything (which might prolong my life). Perhaps I should try to secure a 600 square-foot office-apartment in a place like this!!




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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:20 am

    Ortho's words:
    "What I would've liked to have happen -- going back to the Garden of Eden -- might've been impossible (right from the beginning).
    I simply don't have enough completely-accurate historical-information to properly answer your question."

    Never think you should give an answer please, it was intended to make yourself ask this, to yourself, and answer it.
    Juggle with imagined realities, wished for dreams that you would love to see become a reality, that's what I had in mind.

    Our last exchange of posts shows me that it's about a discernment when to use of the left brain and the right brain
    and the balance between those two, I believe. Also to discern from which of these parts others come from in communication.
    The gap between those two hemispheres is also showing the gap between your way of reasoning and mine.

    In my view, waiting for sufficient information and data to base one's wished for reality on is solely a function of the left brain
    and looks to me as a dead end street. There's no creativity in it. It's not going to work, when one hemisphere is ruling, as I see it.
    That's what I implied by saying that I believe in life opening doors to possibilities after making a decision.
    Like in seeing things put in motion by saying "yes" to life, foremost a "yes" to one's own life.

    There might be a good reason, your left brain is telling you probably, that you prefer the pleasures of walking in a labyrinth
    without finding an exit, without finding release. I'm not at all sarcastic now, I believe in each of us lives a saboteur, please
    don't let that aspect of your personality, or many personalities, modeling or not modeling, rule you.




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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:38 am

    Thank-you B.B. I've spent my life trying to understand -- and attempting to be accommodating -- and I've gotten my head handed to me over and over again. It's never good enough -- and now I don't really give a damn. That labyrinth is beautiful -- and I guess I'd love to see a world filled with Gardens -- Pristine-Nature -- Abbeys and Cathedrals!! I've even wondered what it might be like to live in an Abbey which focused upon:

    1. Sacred Classical Music.

    2. Natural Farming and Health-Care.

    3. Astronomy, Biology, and Chemistry (The ABC's).

    4. The Latest Edition of the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary (The ABC from the ABC).

    I've actually concluded that facing-reality is an impossible-dream. We're all deluded with conflicting-delusions. We might NOT be dealing with Right v Wrong. We might REALLY be dealing with Wrong v Wrong. I've followed your suggestion, and started yet another thread -- but I kept the same name -- so I guess the End is Near for The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Book Two). It's been fun.






















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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:14 am

    Of course you must do what you must do, no doubt about that. I shall not try to keep thou from it Big Grin 3
    Thank you, ortho, for posting such awesome garden pictures! It's one of the great pleasures of UK countrylife, that
    so many large castle- and park-gardens are open to the public. I'm making a miniature rock garden soon, with
    old slate rooftiles and rocks, red earth and hopefully holes for toads to hide in. I'll slowly turn into a witch.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:44 am

    Thank-you B.B. Which Witch?? Broom Broom?? I just think that having a completely open and honest conversation with those who REALLY Run the World (and Solar System) would be MOST Enlightening, Disillusioning, and Horrifying. I've tried to hint-at what I think that might be like (with a little help from my friends) but if I REALLY revealed the way things REALLY Work, I don't think I'd live long. I think I've gone as far as I can go, without DIRE Consequences. I still might write a book, but it would probably just be a watered-down devotional-book. I don't think I know things that you all don't already know BUT I think I think of possibilities which very-few could possibly imagine. It's what MIGHT BE That Scares Me!! It's my little secret between Me and Me!! I Don't Even Whisper to Myself Anymore!! What Would Connie Chung Say?? An insider told me that Connie would sometimes walk right into people who got in her way!! Honest!!


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