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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:46 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/09/watch-arabic-speaking-ukrainian-woman-tells-what-the-migrants-are-really-saying-about-infidels-3058778.html
    The EU leaders in control are pathetic morons and traitors . The only sane person is Orban from Hungary .
     
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    Watch this video. A European woman who speaks Arabic translates what the Muslim migrants were saying when they thought she didn’t understand
    their language. (thanks to Armaros) Screen Shot 2015-09-27 at 7.03.37 PM

    And this is the translated speech of the Hungarian Prime Minister addressing all the issues from NO Go Zones to terrorists, to EU incompetence and corruption


    It's very interesting and to me, food for thought, enemyofNWO, that Hungary, of all European countries, has been the transfer or -portal
    to numerous migrating groups of people, including their own residents. Until today? I'm not entitled to say that Hungary's point of view on
    refugees and their decision now is wrong or right. As I see it, we'll have to deal with this situation as humanely as possible, never before the
    conscience of European governments and that of the men in the street, has been tickled that much, as I perceive it. Now and than, social media become influencers, a lthough mainly coming from emotional, hence....... limited points of view. Eyes and ears that are aroused by created drama
    and creating more of it, due to the attraction of virtual glossiness. I see two sides in that "face".

    Here are some historic facts I found, about the role of Hungary:

    (quote).....the first major postwar movement of refugees from eastern Europe was as a result of the communist coup in Czechoslovakia
    in February 1948, when 60,000 Czech refugees fled to the western zones of Germany and Austria. At the outbreak of the Hungarian
    revolution in October 1956, more than 200,000 Hungarian refugees poured over the borders into Austria (180,000) and Yugoslavia (20,000).

    There is still a small but steady flow westward of escapees from the communist countries of eastern Europe, estimated, at the end of 1964,
    to be between 12,000 and 15,000 per year. During the period 1945–1966, according to records kept by the U.S. Escapee Program, a total
    of about 1,270,000 persons escaped from eastern European countries to western European countries".(end of quote)

    Source: http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/refugee.aspx
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    Post  burgundia on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:10 am

    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    enemyofNWO wrote:http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/09/watch-arabic-speaking-ukrainian-woman-tells-what-the-migrants-are-really-saying-about-infidels-3058778.html
    The EU leaders in control are pathetic morons and traitors . The only sane person is Orban from Hungary .
     
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    Watch this video. A European woman who speaks Arabic translates what the Muslim migrants were saying when they thought she didn’t understand
    their language. (thanks to Armaros) Screen Shot 2015-09-27 at 7.03.37 PM

    And this is the translated speech of the Hungarian Prime Minister addressing all the issues from NO Go Zones to terrorists, to EU incompetence and corruption


    It's very interesting and to me, food for thought, enemyofNWO, that Hungary, of all European countries, has been the transfer or -portal
    to numerous migrating groups of people, including their own residents. Until today? I'm not entitled to say that Hungary's point of view on
    refugees and their decision now is wrong or right. As I see it, we'll have to deal with this situation as humanely as possible, never before the
    conscience of European governments and that of the men in the street, has been tickled that much, as I perceive it. Now and than, social media become influencers, a lthough mainly coming from emotional, hence....... limited points of view. Eyes and ears that are aroused by created drama
    and creating more of it, due to the attraction of virtual glossiness. I see two sides in that "face".

    Here are some historic facts I found, about the role of Hungary:

    (quote).....the first major postwar movement of refugees from eastern Europe was as a result of the communist coup in Czechoslovakia
    in February 1948, when 60,000 Czech refugees fled to the western zones of Germany and Austria. At the outbreak of the Hungarian
    revolution in October 1956, more than 200,000 Hungarian refugees poured over the borders into Austria (180,000) and Yugoslavia (20,000).

    There is still a small but steady flow westward of escapees from the communist countries of eastern Europe, estimated, at the end of 1964,
    to be between 12,000 and 15,000 per year. During the period 1945–1966, according to records kept by the U.S. Escapee Program, a total
    of about 1,270,000 persons escaped from eastern European countries to western European countries".(end of quote)

    Source: http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/refugee.aspx

    First of all there was never communism in so called Eastern European countries. There was socialism.Secondly, Hungarians are Europeans and they emigrated to other European countries. They did not go to Africa or Middle East. Thirdly, Europe does not have to take refugees from Africa or Asia. There are enough countries on those continents where they can go to. Besides, you seem missing the purpose of this huge exodus planned by NWO. Now you are attacking Hungary for their stand in that matter. To me it looks like you are happy to go along with NWO plans.
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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:49 pm

    burgundia wrote:

    First of all there was never communism in so called Eastern European countries. There was socialism.Secondly, Hungarians are Europeans and they emigrated to other European countries. They did not go to Africa or Middle East. Thirdly, Europe does not have to take refugees from Africa or Asia. There are enough countries on those continents where they can go to. Besides, you seem missing the purpose of this huge exodus planned by NWO. Now you are attacking Hungary for their stand in that matter. To me it looks like you are happy to go along with NWO plans.

    burgundia, I accept your knowledge of facts, like in your post here about Eastern European countries. You're from Poland.
    It's harder for me to accept your interpretation of the refugee situation or of my post about Hungary's past experience with that.
    My research on that subject serves my understanding, possibly those of others too. Sharing my views here serves shining light
    on historic events, related to it and to compare past and present, also the notes made in that process. I try to be watchful not
    to bring the battleground, if I may call the clashing of parties pro and contra welcoming refugees that, inside my research work
    as fuel for it. To me, that would be an obstacle, counter-productive to objectivity and understanding, an obstacle created by myself.

    Here's a copy of the line in my former post about Hungary, that is proof of my watchfulness:
    (Quote)"I'm not entitled to say that Hungary's point of view on refugees and their decision now is wrong or right".(end of quote)
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    Post  burgundia on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm

    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    burgundia wrote:

    First of all there was never communism in so called Eastern European countries. There was socialism.Secondly, Hungarians are Europeans and they emigrated to other European countries. They did not go to Africa or Middle East. Thirdly, Europe does not have to take refugees from Africa or Asia. There are enough countries on those continents where they can go to. Besides, you seem missing the purpose of this huge exodus planned by NWO. Now you are attacking Hungary for their stand in that matter. To me it looks like you are happy to go along with NWO plans.

    burgundia, I accept your knowledge of facts, like in your post here about Eastern European countries. You're from Poland.
    It's harder for me to accept your interpretation of the refugee situation or of my post about Hungary's past experience with that.
    My research on that subject serves my understanding, possibly those of others too. Sharing my views here serves shining light
    on historic events, related to it and to compare past and present, also the notes made in that process. I try to be watchful not
    to bring the battleground, if I may call the clashing of parties pro and contra welcoming refugees that, inside my research work
    as fuel for it. To me, that would be an obstacle, counter-productive to objectivity and understanding, an obstacle created by myself.

    Here's  a copy of the line in my former post about Hungary, that is proof of my watchfulness:
    (Quote)"I'm not entitled to say that Hungary's point of view on refugees and their decision now is wrong or right".(end of quote)

    So what is your opinion about Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE not taking any refugees? And how many do you think Europe should take ? From what I've heard there is no end to it.
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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:11 pm

    burgundia wrote:
    B.B.Baghor wrote:
    burgundia wrote:

    First of all there was never communism in so called Eastern European countries. There was socialism.Secondly, Hungarians are Europeans and they emigrated to other European countries. They did not go to Africa or Middle East. Thirdly, Europe does not have to take refugees from Africa or Asia. There are enough countries on those continents where they can go to. Besides, you seem missing the purpose of this huge exodus planned by NWO. Now you are attacking Hungary for their stand in that matter. To me it looks like you are happy to go along with NWO plans.

    burgundia, I accept your knowledge of facts, like in your post here about Eastern European countries. You're from Poland.
    It's harder for me to accept your interpretation of the refugee situation or of my post about Hungary's past experience with that.
    My research on that subject serves my understanding, possibly those of others too. Sharing my views here serves shining light
    on historic events, related to it and to compare past and present, also the notes made in that process. I try to be watchful not
    to bring the battleground, if I may call the clashing of parties pro and contra welcoming refugees that, inside my research work
    as fuel for it. To me, that would be an obstacle, counter-productive to objectivity and understanding, an obstacle created by myself.

    Here's  a copy of the line in my former post about Hungary, that is proof of my watchfulness:
    (Quote)"I'm not entitled to say that Hungary's point of view on refugees and their decision now is wrong or right".(end of quote)

    So what is your opinion about Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE not taking any refugees? And how many do you think Europe should take ?
    From what I've heard there is no end to it.

    I've got no idea how much refugees should be welcomed, by whom and where, burgundia. I've been on it for a week or so, when
    English people began to generously offer their volunteering for Cal-aid and mountains of bags were piling up in London. I've been worried
    too much and decided to be practical and support the Cal-aid project. In my view, now it's important to secure clothing, shelter and food
    for the coming winter, in refugee camps. What I've done also is contacting all supermarket chains and inquired about their left over food policy.
    I received interesting responses by some, one kept silent. I'm sure more inquire about it with me and this leads to a change for the better.
    French supermarkets make sure left over food is made available to home/money less people.

    If there's no end to refugees coming here, I guess we will have to make the best of it. I'm not in fear for anything or anyone. If part of the
    refugee "crisis" is constructed, manipulated, or a collective surge like a global wave of human beings who are done with injustice and
    suppression, their presence here in Europe being "real" will affect many eyes and hearts. Apart from the predicted "reset" in the global
    money-system, there seem to be more "dinosaur-systems" ready for a "reset". As I see it, we're all thrown out of our comfort chairs hard
    and those who remain seated will be thrown out later, due to the arriving of refugees, who knows.... without an end. And due to different
    types of dinosaurs and Saurons, blowing out their last breath.
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    Islam not just for Muslims

    Post  B.B.Baghor on Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:25 pm


    I haven't read the Koran, nor have I discussed the Islam religion with a Muslim ever. I now wonder why I haven't. The interview with
    Dr. Chris Hewer on the BBC radio today, impressed me for its neutrality and lack of emotional arguments, for the knowledge and insights
    of this man. I assume that many people see the Islam in good and bad colors and lights. I myself choose for an approach to build bridges,
    in the events of the present refugee crisis. Also for having no choice in doing that, if we want to create a peaceful way of living together.
    Now we live with refugees in Europe and soon we will live with many more refugees, if disruption of living conditions in the world continues.

    Because of my choice to build bridges, I choose to post this tubby here. If it's a bridge in the eyes of others here too, I don't know.
    For those living in England, there's a link about a 3-days event in November, with Drl Chris Hewer, in the Ammerdown Center near Bath.

    Bridge or no bridge, I highly recommend listening to what this man has to say:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yzrcdyTBHU




    Understanding Islam: led by Dr Chris Hewer
    17th Nov : 09:00 to 19th Nov : 17:00

    A good understanding of Islam is a must in Britain today, where Muslims number by far the biggest religious group after British Christians.
    In many of our major towns and cities, they make up a substantial minority of the population. This constitutes an invitation to everyone
    to get to know Islam and Muslims better and to explore ways of building bridges of mutual respect and understanding. This particularly
    applies to those involved with Muslims as neighbours, friends, workplace acquaintances or clients in the caring professions.

    This intensive three day course has been designed to give an appreciation of the inner dimensions of Islam and the way that it shapes the
    lives of Muslims, as well as the outer manifestations of Islam as a religion. Put simply, if we are to engage with our Muslim fellow citizens,
    then we need to understand something of their world view, beliefs, practices and the history of relations through the centuries.
    This course will equip you to do just that.

    The course is led by Dr Chris Hewer. Chris comes from a background in Christian theology, education, Islamic studies and inter-faith studies
    and has worked in the field of Muslims in Britain and Christian-Muslim relations since 1986. His current work is to teach study days and residential courses, and to develop written and electronic resources on Islam. Chris’ international standing as a highly regarded teacher of Understanding
    Islam and communicator is evidenced by the fact that, in 2013, he was commissioned by the Muslim Ahl ul-Bayt TV channel to write and
    present a 46 part series on ‘Understanding Islam’.


    Read more here: http://www.bathandwells.org.uk/event/understanding-islam-led-by-dr-chris-hewer/


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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:36 pm

    An interview, organized by Transition Network UK, in a Brussels refugee camp:

    "We spoke to Julien Bernard about the role 1000Bxl en Transition played in an incredible community-led response
    to the refugee crisis in Brussels, a response founded on Transition values. It's as heartwarming a story as has ever
    been posted here...

    https://soundcloud.com/transition-culture/the-story-of-1000bxl-en-transition-and-the-refugee-crisis
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    The Death Of Europe

    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:45 am

    I found this article on Zero hedge . It is a must read for anyone who wants to understand what is going on in the EU .
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    "Submitted by Daniel Greenfield via FrontPageMag.com,

    How The Mohammed Reitrement Plan Will Kill Europe

    European leaders talk about two things these days; preserving European values by taking in Muslim migrants and integrating Muslim migrants into Europe by getting them to adopt European values.

    It does not occur to them that their plan to save European values depends on killing European values.

    The same European values that require Sweden, a country of less than 10 million, to take in 180,000 Muslim migrants in one year also expects the new “Swedes” to celebrate tolerance, feminism and gay marriage. Instead European values have filled the cities of Europe with Shariah patrols, unemployed angry men waving ISIS flags and the occasional public act of terror.

    European countries that refuse to invest money in border security instead find themselves forced to invest money into counterterrorism forces. And those are bad for European values too.

    But, as Central European countries are discovering, European values don’t have much to do with the preservation of viable functioning European states. Instead they are about the sort of static Socialism that Bernie Sanders admires from abroad. But even a Socialist welfare state requires people to work for a living. Maine’s generous welfare policies began collapsing once Somali Muslims swarmed in to take advantage of them. Denmark and the Dutch, among other of Bernie Sanders’ role models, have been sounding more like Reagan and less like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

    Two years ago, the Dutch King declared that, “The classic welfare state of the second half of the 20th century in these areas in particular brought forth arrangements that are unsustainable in their current form.” That same year, the Danish Finance Minister called for the “modernization of the welfare state.”

    But the problem isn’t one of modernization, it’s medievalization.

    27% of Moroccans and 21% of Turks in the Netherlands are unemployed. It’s 27% in Denmark for Iraqis. And even when employed, their average income is well below the European average.

    Critics pointed out in the past that a multicultural America can’t afford the welfare states that European countries have. Now that those same countries are turning multicultural, they can’t afford them either.

    Europe invested in the values of its welfare state. The Muslim world invested in large families. Europe expects the Muslim world to bail out its shrinking birth rate by working and paying into the system so that its aging population can retire. The Muslim migrants however expect Europe to subsidize their large families with its welfare state while they deal some drugs and chop off some heads on the side.

    Once again, European values are in conflict with European survival.

    The European values that require Europe to commit suicide are about ideology, not language, culture or nationhood. But the incoming migrants don’t share that ideology. They have their own Islamic values.

    Why should 23-year-old Mohammed work for four decades so that Hans or Fritz across the way can retire at 61 and lie on a beach in Mallorca? The idea that Mohammed would ever want to do such a thing out of love for Europe was a silly fantasy that European governments fed their worried citizens.

    Mohammed doesn’t share European values. Nor are they likely to take hold of him no matter how often the aging teachers, who hope he gets a job and subsidizes their retirement, try to drill them into his head. Europeans expect Mohammed to become a Swede or a German as if he were some child they had adopted from an exotic country and raised as their own, and work to subsidize their European values.

    The Muslim migrants are meant to be the retirement plan for an aging Europe. They’re supposed to keep its ramshackle collection of economic policies, its welfare states and social programs rolling along.

    But they’re more like a final solution.

    Mohammed is Fritz’s retirement plan. But Mohammed has a very different type of plan. Fritz is counting on Mohammed to work while he relaxes. Mohammed relaxes and expects Fritz to work. Fritz is not related to him and therefore Mohammed sees no reason why he should work to support him.

    European social democracy reduces society to a giant insurance plan in which money is pooled together. But insurance is forbidden in Islam which considers it to be gambling. European social democracy expects him to bail it out, but to Mohammed, European values are a crime against Islam. "
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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-25/death-europe
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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:23 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:  I found this article on Zero hedge . It is a must read for anyone who wants to understand what is going on in the EU .
    Thank you, enemyofNWO, this article does explain something to me. I can understand something of the Dutch situation
    by having lived in Holland for 63 years. I don't agree with what's in the quote of your post above, for the article is
    someone's point of view, based on possible facts, sampled and arranged in a way that points at the Islam as a "guilty party".
    It's a view that I can hardly call objective and in that way, understanding is impossible, see what I mean? It's conspiracy-
    tabloid style publication to me, similar to the mass-media publications all over the world. Seeking truth in that world is
    a tough job, although not impossible, if you're fond of dead-end alleys, potholes and byways (metaphorically speaking).

    This ties in with the virtual world of truth-seeking and sharing and its potential delusional nature. That's not my game
    of finding truth, although I'm taking part in it, finding out what works for me or not. Like here in Misty Avalon. Of course
    there's often remnants of facts and truth in gossip-tabloid publishing and regarding Holland and the Moroccan and
    Turkish immigrants, called "gastarbeiders" and "Gastarbeiter" in Germany (guest-laborers) while working in the '50's and
    '60's in factories where others (the Dutch laborers) felt the work was beneath their "level", or whatever you call it, are
    these days a well respected and valued part of the Dutch population, in general. There's lots of dubious interest too,
    for economics and greed, games of power etc. all are played out in politics, be it Dutch, Turkish or Moroccan.

    The original plan, in the 50's and '60's, in Holland, was that these guest-laborers should return to their country after
    "the job was done". What happened, was that these same men called their family and told them "Come over please,
    the streets here are paved with gold!" And so, understandably to me, their wives and children arrived and stayed.
    To me, that's a human approach, a nomadic approach too: moving to greener pastures is a natural thing to do, as I see it.

    This settling in of Turkish and Moroccan families and now, their next generations, is the responsibility of the Dutch govern-
    ment, having condoned this. The government has to live up to that choice, although it was a passive one, or possibly the
    Dutch economy thrives on certain illegal actions related to drug-dealing or other dealing. The condoning of "coffee-shops"
    in Holland, is part of a cover up of huge profit-making, in that so called "illegal shadow-world" that exists in all levels of
    society, these days. How easy it is, to point out the sliver of wood in someone's eye and ignore the log of wood in one's
    own. It'sa projection of one's own evil doing, the seeking of a stick to beat a dog. "An eye for an eye" causing blindness
    in all, how the present warfare system shows that truth as large as the elephant in the room!

    The large population of Chinese people in Holland is connected to that "illegal shadow-world" too. Societies nowadays are
    complex structures of all sorts of interests and acrobatics to make profit or abuse profit made by others. Or destroy it.
    How can the virtual world of truth-seeking ever make chocolate of that dynamic? From experience, I know that the Turkish
    and Moroccan men are resilient and inventive, showing these blunt "lowlanders" what it means to be a host in a restaurant,
    snackbar and shop. They know what quality is and I personally respect the Islamic halal meat-treatment and its rule of
    banking or giving loans without interest involved.

    I've often found my food in a part of Utrecht called "Small Istanbul" and now I sometimes miss them, living in Somerset UK.
    Much local produce by smallholders makes up for that, fortunately. I've found (it's a fact of life) that moral values are different
    in cultures and so are those of Turkish and Moroccan people.

    The presence of the Islam is quite a clash with the Calvinistic religious system in Holland, but in general Dutch people are
    learning to cope with that situation. Once people live in a community, depending on each other for an income and finding
    that there's no choice, if they're good people they try to make it work, this way... or that way... With friction and arguments,
    all kinds of acrobatic pushing and pulling, which is happening all over the planet, be it by integration of different lifestyles or
    simply while making a "living together", where a space needs to be created for it.

    Holland has always been a country of entering or trespassing foreigners, due to being a sea-faring nation too. There are
    initiatives to create residential care-homes in Turkey and Morocco, so that retired Muslims can return to their homeland.
    That initiative serves the desires of retired Muslims as well as the desire of the Dutch government, to get rid of that
    "friction" and manage a huge and, to some, over-populated frog-pond called Holland. Not that the government of Holland,
    or city councils for that matter, are the main drive behind "making it work together"

    It's the people in the streets that are creating this. Neighborhood watchers and so called "Fathers", Muslim men watching
    their neighborhood by mediating between Dutch and Muslim moral values, in conflict and friction. For example, where I
    live now, in rural Avalon area in the UK, I find a quite strong communal lifestyle with resilient people who know quite well
    how to take care of themselves, with many female volunteers taking care of the elderly (which are numerous) and most
    often managing the many charity shops and coffee corners in churches and communal halls here. A binding element and
    a beautiful way of making use of women's creative powers.

    This way of living, I can't see really that deep into the English moral values, having arrived recently, is close to how I
    choose to create a "living together", creatively, by hand, guts and heart. While huge changes and turmoil is raging all
    over the planet, climate-wise and consciousness-wise, I foresee a future where individual human beings "the people in
    the streets" are raising a voice that will begin to echo all over the planet, making all governments and city-councils that
    are constructed on foundations of power and greed, redundant, sooner or later. Good things take time.

    Many societies are functioning already for a long time, without government or city-council "them-rascals-out-there" doing
    their job anyway.
    Isn't that hilariously showing how much of what we see and witness isn't what it appears to be? Often
    it's despite a country's ruling party, that a human community learns to grow smart and be inventive. It's happening in
    self-sustainable communities, spiritual villages and ashrams,  all expressions of a raised voice singing a new tune.

    This is my view on the so called "refugee/migration-crisis". We're paying the bills that we've created in the first place.
    A new tune for a good life can sound in all conditions of life, for its foundation is within our guts and hearts, as I perceive it.
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    Post  burgundia on Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:43 pm

    http://www.naturalnews.com/051869_George_Soros_national_borders_migrant_invasion.html#

    George Soros letter reveals globalist plan to destroy the First World by eliminating national borders with global migrant blitzkreig invasions

    NaturalNews) As the Left continues to lose the battle for America's soul, its greatest champions are going full-out in an attempt to turn the tide any way they can – even if it means destroying the country.

    One of the vilest among them is billionaire George Soros, a Hungarian-born U.S. citizen who now seeks to demolish the country that gave him his riches along with its allies.

    As reported by Breitbart London, Soros recently publicly confirmed that, yes, he seeks to essentially wipe out all European borders following an accusation made last week by the prime mister of his birth country, Viktor Orban (who, unlike Soros, actually has to deal with the tens of thousands of second- and third-world migrants streaming into his country and other European nations – while Soros lives free of such inconveniences in his $10 million mansion/castle outside of New York City).

    In recent days, Orban has accused Soros of deliberately encouraging the migrant crisis now engulfing the continent.

    "This invasion is driven, on the one hand, by people smugglers, and on the other by those (human rights) activists who support everything that weakens the nation-state," Orban said. "This Western mindset and this activist network is perhaps best represented by George Soros."

    Let's take down all borders'
    Following Orban's statement, Soros sent an email to Bloomberg Business, in which he claimed that his foundations actually help "uphold European values," while Orban's actions in bolstering the Hungarian border and thus impeding a huge influx of migrants "undermine those values."

    "His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle," Soros added. "Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle."

    In October, Orban accused pro-immigration non-governmental organizations (NGOs) of "drawing a living from the immigration crisis." He singled out those funded by Soros, who is a strong supporter of transnational bodies like the European Union and the United Nations. Also, his Open Society Foundation (OSF) provides assistance for pro-immigration activists, and he is well-known in the U.S. and internationally for supporting "progressive" (read far-Left) causes like the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation and the Center for American Progress.

    In fact, the OSF website notes: "We believe that migration and asylum policy should be grounded in economic and demographic realities, not driven by temporary political considerations or popular misconceptions.

    "In Europe, many of our civil society partners are raising their voices demanding a common European approach in line with international human rights commitments."

    In a recent interview, Orban said that immigration and multiculturalism were working in tandem to change the face and traditions of Europe, it's "Christian roots" in particular, all while creating "parallel societies" (just like mass immigration in the U.S. – and isn't it peculiar that President Obama and Lefty Soros have the same view on mass immigration?).

    'No one has voted on this'
    As reported by Breitbart London, Orban said that Europeans should "stick to our Christian values" and "Europe can be saved," but only if citizens "take seriously the traditions, the Christian roots and all the values that are the basis of the civilisation of Europe."

    "What sort of Europe do we want to have? Parallel societies? Muslim communities living together with the Christian community?" he asked, adding that there is also an anti-democratic aspect to what's taking place.

    "Nobody has voted for what is going on, so the quality of European democracy is in question."

    "Millions of migrants are coming to the European Union," he said, noting that European countries are neglecting various treaties that respect national boundaries.

    In recent days, RT.com has reported that the migration policies of Germany were so upsetting the country's population that some analysts are predicting widespread anarchy or even civil war.

    Hansjoerg Mueller of the Alternative for Germany party also said the country may be on its way to becoming a "banana republic without any government."
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    Post  B.B.Baghor on Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:42 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWcRyJ7LAXI


    The balancing of compassion with wisdom, matters of the heart and the head,
    is practiced and shown in many many words and ways. This isn't to prove anything,
    just a point of view I support and share here. I find this approach workable, for its
    quality of creative use and growth, away from fear. There's no day passing by, where
    I don't find these nudges
    Cheerful
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    B.B.Baghor wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWcRyJ7LAXI


    The balancing of compassion with wisdom, matters of the heart and the head,
    is practiced and shown in many many words and ways. This isn't to prove anything,
    just a point of view I support and share here. I find this approach workable, for its
    quality of creative use and growth, away from fear. There's no day passing by, where
    I don't find these nudges
    Cheerful

    What a bore pushing NWO agenda.
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    Post  shiloh on Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:25 am

    "There are moderate and peace-loving muslims, there is no moderate islam!"



    Raven wrote:
    TheReligionofPeace.com
    Guide to Understanding Islam


    What does the
    Religion of Peace
    Teach About...
    Violence

    Question
    :

    Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?


    Summary Answer
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    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.  Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.  Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
    Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text.  They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.  
    The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God; however this works both ways.  Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence.  Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.  Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.  Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.


    The Quran:

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
    but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families.  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The word used instead, "fitna",  can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

    Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

    Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

    Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".   This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

    Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

    Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

    Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

    Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).  According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.

    Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

    Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

    Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

    Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

    Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

    Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."  

    Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

    Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

    Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

    Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

    Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

    Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

    Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."   "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


    Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

    Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

    Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."   See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


    Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."   Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

    Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


    Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

    Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

    Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

    Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

    Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

    Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

    Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

    Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

    Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"  

    Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."   Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

    Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

    Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"   Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

    Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

    Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."   The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

    Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org


    From the Hadith:


    Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

    Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.  This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

    Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.  Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force.  This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.  

    Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

    Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

    Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

    Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

    Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.  And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

    Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

    Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

    Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

    Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

    Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

    Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

    Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.  His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

    Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...  When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

    Bukhari 1:35  "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

    Tabari 7:97  The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."  Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam.  Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.  An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

    Tabari 9:69  "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"  The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

    Tabari 17:187  "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion."  The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.  The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

    Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship."  One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries.  The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims.  Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

    Additional Notes:

    Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion.  Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance.  Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met.  Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.

    The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran.  Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood.  Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones.  The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side.  Once they do, things change.

    Many Muslims are peaceful and do not want to believe what the Quran really says.  They prefer a more narrow interpretation that is closer to the Judeo-Christian ethic. Some just ignore harsher passages.  Others reach for "textual context" across different suras to subjectively mitigate these verses with others so that the message fits their personal moral preferences.  Although the Quran itself claims to be clear and complete, these apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret verses without their "assistance."

    The violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide.  This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest.  Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction.  Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent.  Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey.  Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

    Violence is so ingrained in Islam that it has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

    Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own.  On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives.  He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not.  Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.

    It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death.

    The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves and resisted Islamic hegemony.  Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to "attack in self-defense", this oxymoron is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad.

    Some modern-day scholars are more candid than others.  One of the most respected Sunni theologians is al-Qaradawi, who justifies terror attacks against Western targets by noting that there is no such thing as a civilian population in a time of war:

    "It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al—Harb [ie. non-Muslim people who resist Islamic conquest] is not protected... In modern war, all of society, with all its classes and ethnic groups, is mobilized to participate in the war, to aid its continuation, and to provide it with the material and human fuel required for it to assure the victory of the state fighting its enemies. Every citizen in society must take upon himself a role in the effort to provide for the battle. The entire domestic front, including professionals, laborers, and industrialists, stands behind the fighting army, even if it does not bear arms."

    Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina.  Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that  was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids.  The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back.  Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage").

    One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way."  Elsewhere, he notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of life."

    The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2, 141.], "The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect."

    Dr. Salah al-Sawy, the chief member of the Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America, stated in 2009 that "the Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time," tacitly affirming the legitimacy of violence for the cause of Islamic rule - bound only by the capacity for success. (source)

    Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death.  Those who knew him best first fought afterwards to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars').  Then the violence turned within.  Early Meccan converts battled later ones as hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in.  Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day.

    The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace.  If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be devastating.  Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life.  Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress.  It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed.  It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism.

    This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so dangerous.  They are given the weight of divine command.  While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them - outside of personal opinion.  Indeed, what do they have?  Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way.

    Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force", many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence.  Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others.  In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way.  They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to find that this is contradicted by the Quran and the bloody history of Islam's genesis.

    Others simply accept the violence.  In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized.  A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose respect." (source).  In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians, women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.

    For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.

    There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam.



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    Soros Backed Group Launches Bid to Keep Syrian Refugees Flowing

    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:27 am

    SNIP
    " A group masquerading as conservative but backed by left-wing foundations including billionaire George Soros’s Foundation to Promote Open Society (FPOS) has launched an online advertising campaign in defense of bringing Syrian refugees to the United nStates.

    The banner ads bear tag lines like, “Support freedom, not fear,” and, “America is better when we welcome refugees.” They lead to a microsite located at Americaisbetter.org with Old Glory-clothed, American flag-waving young people, with a light-skinned blonde leading the way for others who appear to be ethnic minorities partially or fully obscured behind her.

    The site in turn quotes conservative icn of former president Ronald Reagan, saying, “America is better when we embrace President Reagan’s ‘shining city … teeming with people of all kinds, living in harmony and peace.’”

    The site derides “who would make us react in fear of those different from us.” It continues, “As commander in chief, Reagan kept America safe. At the same time, he was the world’s ‘Great Liberator,’ in the words of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. He welcomed refugees from the Soviet Union, Cuba, Vietnam, and elsewhere.”

    Continues at http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=124996

    So now is the arch criminal Soros to decide the immigration policies of the USA and the EU . Whatever the Zionist tribe decides is no good for Europe .......

    After countless US False flags, coup d'etat , wars and demonization of Putin I come to the conclusion that Hitler was demonized too . The western press has been in the hands of the Zionists from mid 1870 . We should encourage the tribe to move to the ZIONIST OBLAST in Siberia .... the pendulum swings and things change with time ...
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    The Ontological Metaphysics behind the Physical Manifesto of Islam
    The Jihad of Islam and the Hadji of Logos

    The Resistance or Counter Movement to the Islamisation of Western Civilization by the Rationalisation of Fundamental Christianity as an Eschatological Alternative to Islam's "Islamic Nation" as a Politico-Religious Movement and Organization.

    An Open letter to all liberty centred individuals and political affiliates or friends of Roger Spencer, Pamela Geller and Geert Wilders.

    A Historical background of Islam as a Political-Religious Ideology and Organisation

    The fall of the orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire (New Eastern Rome, centred on Constantinople) in the seventh century to the Arabs in the Muslim conquests following the assassination of Maurice (reigning from 582-602) and the Byzantine-Sasanian war of 602-628 coincided with the establishment of what is called Islam in the historical records.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

    The Old Roman Empire (Old Western Rome) had deteriorated and lost its political influence by 530 and the Arab conquerers of the Byzantine Empire realized the attempt and success of its Roman predecessor to unify their jurisdictions by a religious philosophy or clerical rule for political purposes.
    So the 'times and life' of Muhammad ( 570-610- 632) can be associated with the political establishment of the Arab jurisprudence over their conquered territories, beginning in the historical records with the Rashidun Caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali - {Sunni lineage 632-661 with Shia lineage beginning with Ali 656-661}), followed by the Umayyad dynasties as successors after the supposed death of Muhammad in 632.
    The Umayyad caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan (646-685-705) is said to have collected the Qur'an under editorial access by Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, the then governor, general and administrator of Iraq.
    The actual historical manifestation of the Qu'ran and the appearance of Muhammad in the records does not appear until the caliphate of Abd al-Malik and even the canonical Islamic records show no distribution of the Qu'ran until the the appearance of that caliph, said to have 'collected' and edited the Qu'ran during his time of Arab-Islamic rulership.
    The name Muhammad and the present unfoldment of the Islamic ideology so begins to enter recorded history in this caliphate, the label of the Qu'ran then becoming more prevalent in other non-Islamic Jewish and Christian accounts and records form the eighth century onwards.
    A case so can be made, that the prophet Muhammad of the Qu'ran and the construction and dissemination of the Qu'ran is rather closely associated with the Umayyad caliphate of Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.

    The prophet Muhammad could also be a label for a title or office for an exemplary personage, military leader or administrator to render the character and conduct of this model to become enshrined as 'holy law' and as infallible behavior, which should be copied and repeated as idealization. Additionally, 'Muhammad' as a title could become identified as the Muslim name for an equivalent signum such as 'Krystos' or Christ from an earlier tradition and as found within the remnants of the conquered territories, say the religion of an exiled Byzantine gnostic sect.
    The construction of 'Muhammad the servant and apostle or prophet of Allah' in the 8th Century in the Umayyad dynasty then could be an adaptation of Muhammad/Jesus, the Prophet of Allah as the Arabic translation for 'Jesus, the Prophet of Jehovah/Abba' from the earlier Christian tradition and without any then existing agenda for this conquest to become a self reenforcing validation of the political agenda as a veiled context of infallible and so coercive divinely inspired and transmitted lexicon of instructions named the 'Holy Qu'ran'.
    The success of the Arab invasion in a military sense, so formed a valueable platform for the caliphates to establish political order and jurisdiction in the 'New Arabia' in the establishment of an overarching 'new religion', which could replace the older priesthoods as remnants found in the conquered lands.


    A distinction between Jehovah as the YHWH of Judaism and 'Abba the Father of Jesus in Heaven', (encoded as YHWHY and as a resymmetrisation of the Judaic Tetragrammaton into a Christian Pentagrammaton) must be made in the context of this article.
    Many of the physical atrocities committed by Islamic State and much of its global domination agenda is also found in a certain ultra orthodox interpretation of the Torah and Talmudic codices sans the New Testament.


    Robert Spencer's propositions as to the derivative of Islam as the youngest worldwide religion from older traditions based on Zoroastrianism, Judaism and Christianity so is fully supported in this essay, descriptive for the metaphysical or 'spiritual' ontology and purpose of Islam.
    Once Islam had become the official clerical administration in the Arabian kingdom, the amalgamation of those parts of the older religions considered suitable by the muslim administrators became the backbone and core for the Qu'ran as the validation of Islam as being the final word of the creator.


    As 'Muhammad' could be used as a title and the claim of Christianity to the 'Krystos' was well established in Byzantine Christendom; the Islamic clerical administration decided to absorb the 'Krystos' title as the 'Prophet or servant or apostle of God' in 'Muhammad'. In this manner could the claim for Muhammad being the final and last prophet be justified, rendering Jesus Muhammad's forerunner or predecessor and who then had prepared the way for the final prophet Muhammad, apostle of Allah.
    This then became the absorption of the New Testament by Islam, centred on the title of Jesus the Christ and omitting the rest of the New Testament and including the basic tenets of it, such as the death and resurrection of Jesus in the process as an irrelevant and unsuitable hindrance to the core political motivations of the by now muslim Arab nation.
    Orthodox Judaism rejected the New Testament as well and so to absorb Judaism, Islam was more sympathetic and akin to the Old Testament, the Torah and the Talmudic traditions. Islam so fully embraced the laws of Jehovah in terms of the 'conquering and administration' of the 'holy promised land' and those laws can be found in various details and derivatives in the Qu'ran.
    The Torah also contains poetic treatizes of harmony and peace and love, even aligned to somewhat obscured sexual references, such as the Song of Songs of Solomon and the Psalms of David and the Proverbs and also futuristic dispensstions in the Book of Isaiah, which contra more detailed actual historical accounts, such as the Books of Jeremiah and Daniel can easily be associated with any timeframe not particular to historical records in some chronological order. It stands to reason then, that universal principles of poetry, art and cosmic harmony are also found in the Qu'ran as adaptations from the Torah and older traditions from Zoroastrianism, if not from the New Testament and the literature of the pre- and post Christians sects such as can be found in the Dead Sea Scrolls of Qumran (essenes) in Israel or Nag Hammadi (gnostics) in Egypt.


    The western world in its blatant scientific materialism fails to understand that the motivation of Islamic State to act as it does is in no way a misrepresentation of islam as a religion of peace and love.
    Those tenets are indeed found in the Qu'ran, but as a core copying effect from the Old testament, such as its poetry and wisdom sayings found in many places.
    So the visions of the 'Greater Israel' as say portrayed in Isaiah as the Utopian New World and not placed into a particular timeframe becomes simply mirrored in the 'Great Nation Islam', the caliphate of Islamic State.
    The chronologies in the Torah, subject to historical analysis are all omitted in the Qu'ran, such as Chronicles and Kings and time specific books like Jeremiah and Daniel.
    The name of the god of Judaism is well known from Exodus.3.14 as the I Am That I Am and as the mystification in the kabbalistic tetragrammaton in YHWH. The 'prophet Moses' as a conquering patriarch, eliminating any resisting populations encountered in the conquered lands so fits in rather well into the Islamic agenda to conquer the world as the 'holy land' of Islam. So 'Moses' and a name which has more pharaonic linguistic derivatives, than Hebrew ones in Thutmosis and Ahmose and Rameses can also be considered a title which can be muslimized in 'Muhammad'. In this way then Islam blends the 'physically conquering 'Moses' with the 'spiritual' conquering of the 'Krystos' in the one honorific of 'Muhammad'.


    So if the god Jehovah of Judaism as found in the Torah is essentially the template god of Islam as Allah; then what is the difference?

    Jehovah has a son called Adam as his own 'perfect image' or veritas eikona. The reason of why Jehovah requires a son who then becomes a son with a daughter from the son is explored later; but Allah has no son, but both gods correlate in that both do not have a female companion to birth any sons or daughters. The reason for Eve the daughter is of course found in this physical dilemma. If Jehovah is male then where is the female? In the physical reality this becomes a paradox, but in the metaphysical ontology it becomes a cosmology preceded by a cosmogony.
    The cosmology is creation inclusive of an entire Quantum Big Bang Cosmology based on the 'Laws of Nature' and related to a 'Natural Philosophy' which unfortunately for the present invasion of the western civilization by islam has distanced itself in a blindfolded secularism from the original philosophy, which might be called a 'Perennial Philosophy' and which preceded and is the parent of the 'Scientific Philosophy'. If this cosmogony then can be modeled and constructed in a self consistent manner and (mathematical) logic; then the origins of space and time and any following cosmology such as a Quantum Big Bang creation event would be easily understood as the ontology for this cosmology.
    So then what is called the ''rationale of secular scientific-economic materialism' is like the world view or cosmology as believed in by a wayward 'prodigal son', who has forgotten or is in amnesia that he actually owes hisher existence to a mother and a father who together form his cosmogony or 'Genesis' and an origin which could be termed the 'Omni-Science of the Logos', encompassing and blending the physical realism of the cosmology with the metaphysics or spirituality of the cosmogony.


    Islamic State as the 'Eternal Nation Islam' with its value system based on a strict adherence to perceived spiritual principles became the replacement for the metaphysical omission of western civilization. Western culture in its 'political correctness' and multicultural sameness and economic priorities opened its cultural gates or Ba'bs (Arabic gate) of its own 'spiritual emptiness' or void in ignoring well understood 'dangers' to its long fought for principles of freedom of the individual and expression from other diametrically opposed principles, such as prioritizing the economic security of supplies over the danger of losing the valued and historically timeframe evolved principles of its 'free and democratic standards of society'. Appeasing the 'Nation of the Brotherhood of Islam' in the context of the United Nations and in the form of granting nationalistic group privileges becomes a treason by the political western administrators towards its own constituency in the betrayal of its stated constitutional egalitarianism for its citizenry.

    A true muslim, following his allegiance to his religion of Islam could never agree to forsake hisher spiritual fundamental position to assimilate and accept the basically anti-spiritual value system of the western civilization. So a true muslim is not a terrorist according to his metaphysical tradition, if he in any manner destroys parts or principles of any part of the 'Islamic State' not yet conquered by the 'Servants of Allah' in the model of Muhammad.
    A true muslim so cannot be assimilated into any value system which is not Islam.


    So what then is a secular muslim?
    A secular muslim is a true muslim who also fully adheres to the principles of Islam and as clearly stated in the Qu'ran as the master guide book.
    A true muslim is invited to pretend not to be a true muslim, if this behavior and agenda serves Allah. In other words deception and lies are fully endorsed and in divine order, should such deception serve the overall islamic agenda of creating the global caliphate.


    The western assimilators and including youth workers and counsellers of 'radicalised' young muslims fail to realise that imploring the parents and the families of the 'radicalised' are not the 'unradicalised' and 'normal' and moderate muslims, who will be able to correct the aberrant behavior patterns of their misguided children of Islam.
    Would the parents and families do so, they would betray Islam and the Qu'ran.
    To seek assistance from the imams and the muftis and the administrators of the islamic mosques indicates even more so, how the western assimilators have become blinded by their own sense of what a democratic civilization's citizenry should or must be.


    In terms of the metaphysics then, the great distinction between Judaism and Islam becomes the notion of a secular Jew and a secular Muslim.
    The westernization of Judaism has succeeded to a large extent in that the metaphysical core of Judaism has become the ultra orthodox faction in Israel and whilst this faction can be said to be the spiritual brother of the muslim in terms of their 'holy literature'; this spiritual brotherhood manifests iitself in a physics of total opposition as the war between the Arab and the Jew. As Pamela Geller has often said, it is not about the land it is a religious was, a war of ideas and information and there can never be a two-state solution of peaceful coexistence as is the dream of the assimilators.


    If there is a solution to the 'Middle East Crisis', then this solution must be metaphysical and not political. But the western mentality has eschewed and dismissed the metaphysical reality in its stated scientism and materialism. This 'prodigal spiritual son' is now reaping the consequences of hisher neglectfulness in the imminent loss of his own civilization. This civilization has reformed itself and has created and seeks the democratization of the world in its own image. This is precisely what Islamic State is doing and so despite the proclamations of the intelligentsia and the elitist political and economic classes in the western worlds, that this is not a clash of civilizations, it is just that.
    What the remnant of the western civilization fails to do, but Islamic State does rather well; is to present the 'Dream of Islam' as say in the 'Eternal Nation Islam'. Where is the 'Dream or Ideal Image' of the western world? Is it consumerism and advertising?
    Is it Individualisation at all costs and a separation of the group-consciousness into pockets of personal preferences, likes and dislikes?
    Is it about the relativity of truth, as the final climax of the relativism of opinion? Is it the godless world of a purposeless universe hosting purposeless individuals seeking and pursuing an ultimate meaningless existence?
    The Jihadist of Islamic State does not think so, but the elitist governors and administrators throughout western civilization do.
    Because science can explain the physical reality, in time all will be understood in a reductionistic materialistic realism?!
    Can science explain the metaphysical reality, which is rather real to Islamic State?
    It can, it has all the parts to do so. To blend the brilliant cosmology and technology and artistic culture it has developed with the ontology of this cosmology called cosmogony or the Ontology of a Science of the beginning, its own scientific genesis.
    But the elitists know almost nothing about it. So you cannot go to some library or university to find the metaphysical reality of modern science.
    Just like the Islamic State and Jihadism are dismissed as aberrations, as some punctuated equilibrium in the history and evolvement of the paradigm of science and a nexus in the timeframe of a civilization, so is the solution to the physical crisis mirrored in the world dismissed as fantasy and as valueless.
    The solution is translation of the archetypology and symbolism and language of Islam into a universal language. Doing this will harmonise and unify all religions and all the sciences in a New World which then is the 'Eternal Nation Islam' and the 'New Israel Jerusalem' and a 'New Planetary Civilization' enabled to travel to the stars to explore the extraterrestrial universe.


    But here is the problem for the western civilization and which is no problem for Islamic State.
    The solution is not hidden; it is easily accessible by anyone. But it requires translation and the attempt to translate is disallowed by the western elitists and controlleurs as it is said to be divisive and private and has no place in the secularization and relativism of perception in a purposeless world of ultimate meaninglessness.
    As an example, one might present a scripture passage from the Old Testament or the New Testament or the Qu'ran and state that this is more than is seen - it is a cosmic universal code as all such things are and including the suras and the hadiths of the Qu'ran.


    But how does the western scientism believer react to it? Heshe dismisses it as some form historical text from the past and localized and individualized to personal preferences of both authors and readers.
    How does the jihadist react to it? He personalizes it just as the western scientist does, but the jihadist perceives immediate and present value and potency in what he processes in hisher mind contemplating the code.
    The code might be a letter or a word or a symbol or a sentence. Whatever it is; it is a means to create a mental image, a meme or a collection of memes called a memeplex.
    Memeplexes are the metaphysical reality, however dependent on some physical reality existing as a reference within say space or spacetime to create the memeplex.
    The Jihadist fully 'believes' in the reality of his own memeplex creation, whilst the western scientist dismisses it as some unreal imaginary fantasy in hisher head and brain. The belief of the scientist in the western civilization gives no credence to the memeplex of being in any way 'real' in the physical universe he explores and analyses.
    And so only the global scientist of both the figurative east and the reflective opposite west can even begin to use the western potency of analysis and criticism to find the solution to the 'wayward and radicalised' memeplexes the Jihadist eats for breakfast, lunch and tea.



    Isaiah.29: 11-13 - OT (King James Version -KJV)
    11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
    12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
    13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

    Titus 1:15 - NT
    Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

    Zephaniah 3:9 - OT
    For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.

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    The secular Israeli fully embraces the scientism of the western civilization and many have greatly supported and added to its lexicon. Albert Einstein is a secular Jew and one of the pillars of the western scientific paradigm and he is also a pacifist and believer in the rights of the individual.
    Did Albert Einstein deny his Jewish heritage - No?! Did he in any way feel he betrayed the ultraorthodox interpretation of the Torah and the Talmud of his countrymen - No?!
    Did he believe in the god of Judaism at all? Did he believe in the Christian god of the New Testament, the 'Father in Heaven' called Abba by Jesus and which might not be Jehovah at all and yet being related to the god of Moses at the 'Burning Bush' via the 'unspeakable' name of the YHWH?

    Then modern Israel is just that 'modernized' and reformed in the evolvement of its political history; secular in many parts and encompassing the principles and values of western civilization into which it has integrated and assimilated easily, whenever it did not practise its particular and specific memeplexes as held divine and sacrosanct by the ultraorthodox parts of its family. The coexistence of the ultra orthodox Jew with the orthodox Jew with the secular Jew then is encompassed by a common bond of a shared history and past, but the general evolution of the Family of Israel within a greater global context is and was fully accepted.
    But if the general Jew would consider his nations or families memeplex regarding their sacred scriptural legacy as serious as the muslim does, then any Jew but the ultra orthodox Jew would become a traitor and heretic relative to the letter of the law of Jehovah and Jehovah's prophet.

    But here is the key. Where is the 'Prophet of Jehovah'? It is not Moses, because the mosaic covenant and the prophets of the Torah predict the coming of a Jewish messiah and therefore Israel is still awaiting their redeemer.
    Orthodox Jewry has rejected Jesus of Nazareth as the prophet of Jehovah and therefore Jesus became the prophet of Abba. Abba so redeemed Jehovah in the form of the metaphysical order of the cosmogenesis of the creator memeplexes at the timeframe of 2 millennia ago. Why Jehovah requires redemption relates to his and Allah's self imprisonment in the said order of the memeplexes, which ultimately relate to the existence of the codes to which all memeplexes and so all religions and philosophies and belief systems and so on owe their existence. And it is there, where the western scientific rationalism would, if it had the necessary mentality and aptitude, would find its very own raison d etre'.


    All true muslims are ultra-orthodox and cannot be assimilated into any culture except Islam, but all true Israelites are secular to various degrees and only the ultra orthodox Jew cannot be assimilated in the individual sense, but as a group within groups heshe nevertheless integrates in the greater context of the nation Israel. This integration is also a memeplex; namely the Nation Israel is also the patriarch Jacob renamed to Israel and so the individual Jew is the Nation.
    In eschatological terms, when the 'Prophet of Jehovah' appears in the orthodox group it will also appear in the secular group as the 'Prophet of Abba' because the god of Christianity is Abba and not Jehovah and through the New Testament and the memeplexes related to Abba and Jesus and the Apostles and Disciples there are no longer any goyim or gentiles or infidels in the 'New Jerusalem' as an 'Eternal Nation Israel' which is both the global nation of a 'New World' and the Individual belonging to it as per the New Testament memeplex as a 'universal cosmic thoughtform' energized by the 'spirit' and a 'quantum wave' which can be translated into the Omni-scientific code of 'electromagnetic monopolar radiation' (EMMR) as a memeplex transformation of abstract, but mathematical archetypes and symbols.

    The history of islam and its prophet, so can be reconfigured in the light of a non Islamic account of its own data base and infused with a rationale for the secular political reason for its existence. This agenda then can be compared and contrasted with the importance and influence of the philosophies and religious administrations contemporary with the islam of the caliphates.



    View: https://youtu.be/bRZtUHUifas

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6bBeyaRjac



    • No record of Muhammad’s reported death in 632 appears until more than a century after that date.
    • A Christian account apparently dating from the mid-630s speaks of an Arab prophet “armed with a sword” who seems to be still alive.
    • The early accounts written by the people the Arabs conquered never mention Islam, Muhammad, or the Qur’an. They call the conquerors “Ishmaelites,” “Saracens,” “Muhajirun,” and “Hagarians” but never “Muslims.”
    • The Arab conquerors, in their coins and inscriptions, don’t mention Islam or the Qur’an for the first six decades of their conquests. Mentions of “Muhammad” are non-specific and on at least two occasions are accompanied by a cross. The word can be used not only as a proper name but also as an honorific.
    • The Qur’an, even by the canonical Muslim account, was not distributed in its present form until the 650’s. Contradicting that standard account is the fact that neither the Arabian nor the Christians and Jews in the region mention the Qur’an until the early eighth century.
    • During the reign of the caliph Muawiya (661-680), the Arabs constructed at least one public building whose inscription was headed by a cross.
    • We begin hearing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, and about Islam itself in the 690’s, during the reign of the caliph Abd al-Malik. Coins and inscriptions reflecting Islamic beliefs begin to appear at this time also.
    • Around the same time, Arabic became the predominant written language of the Arabian Empire, supplanting Syriac and Greek.
    • Abd al-Malik claimed, in a passing remark in one hadith, to have collected the Qur’an, contradicting Islamic tradition that the collection was the work of the caliph Uthman forty years earlier.
    • Multiple hadiths report that Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, governor of Iraq during the reign of Abd al-Malik, edited the Qur’an and distributed his new edition to the various Arab-controlled provinces— again, something Uthman is supposed to have done decades earlier.
    • Even some Islamic traditions maintain that certain common Islamic practices, such as the recitation of the Qur’an during mosque prayers, date from orders of Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, not to the earlier period of Islamic history.
    • In the middle of the eighth century, the Abbasid dynastic supplanted the Umayyad line of Abd al-Malik. The Abbasids charged the Umayyads with impiety on a large scale. In the Abbasid period, biographical material about Mohammed began to proliferate. The first complete biography of the prophet of Islam finally appeared during this era—at least 125 years after the traditional date of his death.
    • The biographical material that emerged situates Muhammad in an area of Arabia that never was the center for trade and pilgrimage that the canonical Islamic account of Islam’s origin depend on it to be. (pp.205-206)

    https://themuslimissue.wordpress.co...alled-muhammad-up-to-732-a-d-was-he-a-caliph/



    Contemporary Islam as a Political-Religious Ideology and Organisation


    Worldwide caliphate

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A worldwide caliphate is the concept of a single theocratic one-world government as proposed by many devout Muslims, in particular Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.[1][2] In 2014, Baghdadi claimed to have succeeded in the creation of a worldwide caliphate.[3] On April 8, 2006, the Daily Times of Pakistan reported that at a rally held in Islamabad the militant organization Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan called for the formation of a Worldwide Caliphate, which was to begin in Pakistan.[4]
    Hizb ut-Tahrir, a pan-Islamic political organization, believes that all Muslims should unite in a worldwide caliphate[5][6] that will "challenge, and ultimately conquer, the West."[7] While extremists often commit acts of violence in pursuit of this goal, it is alleged to lack appeal among a wider Islamic audience.[8] Brigitte Gabriel argues that the goal of a worldwide caliphate is central to the enterprise of radical Islam.[9]


    History

    In his 2007 book, Islamic Imperialism: A History Efraim Karsh explains the concept's origin:[10]

    As a universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or subject communities. In order to achieve this goal it is incumbent on all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising struggle 'in the path of Allah,' or jihad. This in turn makes those parts of the world that have not yet been conquered by the House of Islam an abode of permanent conflict (Dar al-Harb, the house of War) which will only end with Islam's eventual triumph.
    In his 2007 book, Islamic Imperialism: A History Efraim Karsh explains the concept's origin:[10]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_caliphate


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B3hLqUqOGUI


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMGRGtiO9Ro



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    The SWORD of Allah's Jihad and the 'Islamic State Caliphate' as the WORDS of Post-Christian WORDS of the 'New Jerusalem'



    The recipients of this message are well informed about the status quo of the islamisation of Western Civilization and as encapsulated in the descriptors above and many more informative media presentations from Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, David Horowitz, Brigitte Gabriel, Gregory M. Davies and Pat Cornell and the political root organisations addressing this issue are available through the appropriate and associated channels of data information, public addresses, websites and conferences.

    The supporters and organisers of the resistance movement against the political islamisation of western civilization, face however a difficult task to inform the greater public about the nature of this 'coup etat' of the islamic agenda to establish a global caliphate under islamic political rule under sharia law.

    Due to the support of mainstream media and all political systems in the Western world, operating under a perceived egalitarian agenda of 'freedom of religion' and a non-discriminatory approach to minority groups, this sense of libertarianism affiliated with the executive and jurisprudential enforcement of this administration, has allowed the political intent of islamisation to become obscured by utility of its mantle or facade of being 'only' a religion and not a political movement with its own agenda.

    In other words, the political establishment of the 'social justice' and 'progressive liberalism' or the 'left wing' has become as compromised and mentally hoodwinked by its own political motivations and stated intents, as has the politics of the right wing of the 'fundamental' conservatives.
    As the mainstream media outlets for the populations in the western countries are more or less sponsored and reliant on their governmental regulations and affiliations, the prevalent 'administrative norms' regarding information dissemination to the public are dependant on the 'current mentality and mindform or memeplex of their political administrations.
    Because of the prevailing memeplex of 'political correctness' regarding the 'freedom of religious expression' and a perceived or 'wished for' multicultural integration of islam just as a 'religion of peace' and completely separated from possible abstractions or corruptions of that religion; the path of sharing the information about the political nature of islam with the general populations and constituency in the 'infiltrated' nations cannot take the path of the official channels of the mainstream media and public forums.




    View: https://vimeo.com/20710133

    This is the unedited version of Fitna prior to Live Leak editing it down after receiving death threats if they did not remove FITNA immediately.
    Geert Wilders brings us the truth about Islam and the Koran.​


    The rise of Islamic State as a 'fundamental' and true form of islam and in full adherence, affiliation and obedient observance to the Qu'ran has been analysed as a purely terrorist movement of 'religious madmen or crazies' of the Islamic religion and so has been dismissed by the mainstream administratons and intelligentsia as having anything to do with its political motivations and agendas.
    This course of political deception is perfectly acceptable to political islam as clearly stated in the Qu'ran as a way and method to 'please Allah' and to further the ultimate motivation of islam to establish global governance and domination in a political sense, expressed under religious sharia law.

    A new form of the Vox Populi is accessible through 'alternative and social media' however and a unifying force of the resistance to islamisation of western civilization can use this medium to enhance its seedling presence in the nations in the form of grass root political alternatives.

    The 'mad terrorists' of Islamic State and as portrayed by the mainstream media to the general citizenship of nations infected by the 'memeplex virus of islam' are no 'crazies' at all, but fully motivated and well intentioned citizens of the new caliphate of the 'New Islamic Nation'.
    The label of the 'religion deluded fanatic terrorist' might seem appropriate to a secular and generally atheistic 'disbeliever' 'believing' instead in scientific rationalism; but becomes a 'heroic member' of the Islamic community and family in the all conquering and divine Islamic paradise of the 'New Nation of Islam' relative to the 'believer' in Allah, its prophet Muhammad and the Qu'ran.

    The mere idea of islam represents a thoughtform, a meme or image created from say an universal or cosmic library of memories and like an empty canvas for a painter can become expanded and embellished by colours, hues and context to form a memeplex or collective memory bank as part of a 'cosmic story' or Logos script; so can the conceptualization, invention, system or religion of islam become a mental belief system and realism for its creators, adherents and believers.
    Then the more this Islamic memeplex is 'fed' by believers, the more energy and potency this thoughtform will carry to affect and interact with the physical and metaphysical environment in which it resides.
    The imagination defining and creating of this conceptualization can be said to become a metaphysical precursor or 'parent' for this 'image making' of this imaginary concept or 'mental energy'.

    Once the 'making of the mental images' centered on the concept of the islamic memeplex has attained certain points of saturation, say akin the boiling- or freezing point of water; it will become enabled to assume a more and more increasing concrete form and manifest itself in a shared memeplex called the religion of islam.
    The physicalisation of the islamic memeplex will then become increasingly more potent in the creation of a physical objectification of the subject matter of the thoughtform in say literary representations like the suras and hadiths and sayings found in the Qu'ran and the physical representations of Islamic symbols on coins and tapestries and citadels and mosques and other artifacts.
    The manifestation of the Islamic memeplex, just as any memeplex in any form of physicalisation from its metaphysical or mental definition, is however subject to reconfiguration and modification within the process of its growth and progressive expansion.

    Should now the initial creator meme, say called 'Allah' in islam; become in some way restricted to engage in its own self evolution; then the Islamic memeplex could grow in an evergrowing linear spacetimed extent; but remain dimensionally restricted in that same cosmological spacetime.
    This then constitutes the root cause for the failure of the Islamic memeplex to reform or reconfigure itself in the linear unfoldment of its linear timeline of its own history.
    It is literally 'stuck in a timewarp' and unable to escape its own definition entrapment due to its original universal self definition or original originality.
    Initial conditions of the encountered physical environment and circumstance at the institutionalization of islam, then became 'frozen in time' as a definition for the nature of Allah as unchangeable, eternal and undefinable.
    This status quo becomes Allah's restriction and inability to evolve past the environmental canvas of its own conception.
    The offspring or progeny of Allah in its 'Children of Islam' then places a time evolving restriction or imprisonment upon the mentality of the believers and adherents to the family of Allah in the evolving concept of the 'Eternal Nation of Islam'.

    It is of course possible and feasible in the metaphysics to define a creator memeplex like Allah to be unchangeable and undefinale or unimage makeable; but doing this will have consequences in the physical manifesto of Allah's family; just as is witnessed in the activity of the fundamental nature and definition of islam.
    This realization can now be used to define a 'family' or genus of creator memes of similar disposition.
    The Allah creator meme so becomes a direct image or mirror for the Jehovah meme of fundamental Judaism, sharing the same nature of literay constancy and unchangeability.

    But in the case of the time evolvement of Judaism, the offspring of Jehovah in Adam and the continuity of Eve from Adam as the second generation from the initial creator memeplex allowed a cosmogenetic succession for Jehovah in his Son-Daughter Adam-Eve also related to a subsequent redefinition or reconfiguration of the maleness of the Son cosmogenetically inherent in Eve to become supramentalised in an evolving Jehovian memeplex and the evolution of a separate femaleness in the separation of the original Eve from the original Adam in the doubling or twinning of the maleness and the femaleness in a newly created world differing in the dimensional constitution.
    Then despite the definition of an unchanging Jehovah, the Sondaughter of a New Adam and the Daughterson of a New Eve; both and within a form of sexually differentiated archetypological twinship; could allow the old Jehovah memeplex to eventually evolve in a new and renewed image making of the original mirror between Jehovah and Adam as a maleness and before Eve became the medium of transformation, say as the 'rib of Adam' as the original femaleness.
    Returning the 'rib of adam' as Old Eve into the original old Adam so would also mirror and redefine Old Jehovah into a New Jehovah which is called or named Abba by the 'Prophet of Abba' known as Yeshuah Jesus ben Joseph bar Thomas de Nazareth Naassenis and also as Jesus of Nazareth, the Logos of Abba redefined with the Gate or Baab of Abba also known as Barbelo Mother of the Creation Worlds of the 'Perfect Shining One' as the Father Creator.
    As Allah has no Son, Allah cannot mirror himself in a 'veritas eikona' or 'perfect image' and so Allah remains trapped in his own archetypically stipulated constancy and resides in a warpzone of universal or cosmic self imprisonment of its own orginal cosmic selfhood definition.
    Therefore Allah can be said to mirror and define a creator memeplex brotherhood in Jehovah, so uniting or contrasting this cosmic brotherhood in the religions of Islam and Judaism, in their native self similarity and definition and subject to environmemtal physical stimulus, creating the potential for war and peace and harmony and conflict.

    How then can Allah escape his selfmade imprisonment?
    Allah was defined by the creators and image makers of the Qu'ran; but those creators drew on a previous creator memeplex, namely the image making of Jehovah creating a codex known as the Torah and the Old Testament of Judeo-Christianity. So the brotherhood of the creator memeplexes is mirrored and physicalized in the brotherhood of the two religion memeplexes called 'Logos or Words of Judaism' and 'Logos or Words of Islam'.

    A simple code so indicates the metaphysical dilemma for Allah archetyped and symbolized by the SWORD of ALLAH in a cosmic argument and jealousy between the two creator brothers Allah and Jehovah; Jehovah also being defined in the SWORD of JEHOVAH in the Torah and the Old Testament of Judaism.
    The two SWORDS so compete with each other in their constancy of definition and express themselves in physical image makings in environments of space and times occupied and enlivened by their respective 'Children of Jehovah' and the 'Children of Allah'.

    This conflict, physically manifested and expressed, however metaphysically defined in respective memeplexes or cultures or religions or belief systems and so on is trapped in the eternity of archetypical universal definition due to the original unchangeability of the two creator memeplexes.

    But the second generation of Jehovah has reconfigured Jehovah into Abba or more precisely AbbaBaab depending on the second generation of Jehovah becoming the first generation of Abba also twinning the original creator-creation modality into a AdamEve and a EveAdam HeShe-Shehe memeplex which can mirror Abba into Jehovah as a transformed 'New Heaven' of abstraction and a 'New Earth' of physicality, labeled as AbbaBaab.
    So Old Jehovah transfiguring into AbbaBaab will also mirror Old Jehovah in Old Allah in an extended and grafted blending of their respective families in the 'New Nation Islam' and the 'New Jerusalem'. The 'Children of Old Jehovah' so become adopted 'Children of Old Allah' and vice versa, the 'family of Allah' becomes the 'family of Jehovah' with both Jehovah and Allah renamed as AbbaBaab*, say as a Cosmic Universal Twinship of CreationCreaor memeplexes, which are defined in another linguistic Logos code as 'Möbius the Klein Bottle Dragon who bites its own tail'. It is Mobius in this other nomenclature or language code, which allows the metaphysical or mathematical nature of the 'Old Heaven' as the abode of both Allah and Jehovah to encompass their eventual realization as waveformes of structural geometry in physical similarity or holographic universality. Because it is only in the Old Heaven, where the archetype of the eternity can be assigned a linguistic translation into a symbolic representation or code for a time independent evolution of the defined undefinable eternity as a definable infinity in asymptotic progression or approach. But the translation of the semiotics between corresponding memeplex definitions are not required for the purpose of this message and letter to the addressed.

    It suffices to say that the precanvas origin for all thoughtforms from the metaphysics and including all creator memeplexes like Jehovah and Allah can be said to derive from the manifestation of the metaphysics from an eternal or by definition undefined Void for the purpose to follow the path of the imagination metamorphosing into image making. Once the 'making of the images' from the imagination has sufficiently advanced a physical realization in what is called the 'Laws of Nature' and the 'Omni-Science' of the Universal Logos encompassing all Logii of the creator modalities occurs and is based on the metaphysical energy of the Void albeit defined in a created spacetime to transform in particular energy modes from the energy contnuae and discretizations of defined 12-dimensional supermembranes into their lower dimensional expressions of vibration patterns of energy.
    A parent 'energy' defined in the physics of monopolar electromagnetic physics which derives from the angular radially and inertia independent acceleration of magnetopolar charges then transforms from the higher dimension into the inertia associated acceleration of Coulombic electropolar charges to create a light-matter interaction of well known and analysed electromagnetic energy patterns.
    But it is this transformation of energy patterns from the metaphysical higher dimensions into the lower dimensions of the physical adaptation and expression which defines the original memeplex potentials as the say 'collective memory vaults' or data storage banks definable as mathematical or abstract conceptualities of 'physical consciousness' and 'space awareness', (meaning the dynamics of objects occupying space relate to the consciousness and information exchange potential of that space) in the parameters of the aforementioned 'Laws of the Natural Sciences' encompassing the physicality of those expressions of existence as their seedling patterns.


    As said, the reconfiguration of Jehovah into AbbaBaab from a separated Abba Creator and a Baab Creation in the metaphysical 'Old Heaven' of the higher dimensionality also requires the transformation of the old environment as an 'Old Earth' in the lower dimensionality into a 'New Earth' and this evolvement in the physical beingness or reality requires a prior metaphysical reformation of Abba into AbbaBaab, which is the unification of the 'Perfect Shining One' as encoded 'Forethought' with 'Barbelo' as the 'Afterthought' from a particular lexicon related to the initialization of the third generation of Jehovah in the 'Logos of Abba' also known as the New Testament of Jesus the Christ.

    There exists a number alpha-omega code related from the 'Prophet of Abba', which rescues Allah from his eternal imprisonment.
    one such code is found in a particular database called the Nag Hammadi codex of Egypt (1945) and more are found in the New Testament of the third generation of Jehovah being the second generation of Abba:



    (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same." {Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin Translation}.

    Revelation 1:8; 1:11; 21:6 and 22:13 (all King James Version KJV)
    I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

    And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

    I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


    In this code, the "Old Man" is Allah and the 7-day old child defines a recreation of the 7 millennia code as a 7-day period for the Old Creation redefined in a rebirth of the Old Creation as a New Creation in the Sabbath or Mirror of the 7th day as the closure of the circle in Möbius the Klein Bottle Dragon who bites its own tail of the Omega after having chased it for a while.
    The SWORD of Allah so carries the Old Head as the S of the SWORD as alpha and becomes redefined or renamed in the WORDS of New Jehovah as Abba, the Father of Jesus with the WORDS placing the Alpha-S of the beginning of the 'Old Man Allah' as the Omega-S of Abba as his Logos. In that way is saying #4 of the Gospel of Thomas related to the alpha-omega codes found in the New Testament's 'Book of the Revelation, the apocalypse of the Christian Eschatology of John as the ARMAGEDDON or DRAGON MADE of the Old World and of Old Allah himself.
    In this way of metaphysical definition then is found the redemption of Allah's SWORD in the WORDS of ABBA through the Logos of Jesus Christ and of Christ Jesus in the eternal twinship of the second generation of AbbaBaab unified.



    The Time of the Present in Timeframes Messianic Israel-Jihadic Islam

    The potential for a physical resolution of the century old war between Israel and Islam in its physical manifestation so becomes possible, as soon as the metaphysical reconfiguration is established and made manifest in the timelessness of the higher dimensional 'heavenly abodes' of both Jehovah-Abba and Allah.
    And this is the nexus, the global populus on planet Earth finds itself from November 2015 to December 2018 as a particular form of the timeline encoding of the universal logistics.
    This timeline can be constructed in divers ways, but its historical indicator spans both the historically encoded (Jeremiah) 70-Year 'Babylonian Captivity' of Israel from the original Battle of Harmageddon-Meggido of 609-586-538BC to the Edict of Cyrus the Great of 538BC and the other historical timeline can become defined from the creation of political Israel from November 29th, 1947 in the UN partition resolution and the declaration of the Jewish Nation in the British mandate and the statehood Israel Eretz of May 14th, 1948 in a 70-year existence or timespan.
    A 40 year 'time in the wilderness' both as days and as years (Noah's flood with 430+40 years of Egypt divided into two sieges of 390 left-Israel and 40 right-Judah also apply in a 40-43 year period from 1975 to 2015 to 2018 in interwoven encoded patterns of dates and time markers found in Noah's Covenant, the dispensations of Daniel in the Old Testament synchronised and extended in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament and Ezekiel:4) also can be assigned within an encompassing 70 year timeframe for political and current historical Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

    The Persian revolution in 1979, displacing the Western associated and friendly, relatively secular and pragmatic Shah of Iran (Mohammad Reza Pahlavi dynasty) by the theocratic-republican Shia Cleric Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini also began the overall current memeplex of the Islamic State and resurrected its 'dream and desire' of Allah to manifest its agenda of the worldwide caliphate of the 'New Islamic Nation'. Khomeini began the resistance to the perceived westernization of Islamic culture at a timemarker mirrored in today in the resistance movement of the islamisation of western culture and civilization.
    The deterioration of the Words of Abba of the Western Judeo-Christian in Iranian culture so began the rise of the Sword of Allah in the period of time climaxing in the Iranian revolution under Grand Ayatollah Khomeini.
    The present timeframe of 2015 so indicates the mirror for the Sword of Allah to reflect in the Words of Abba renewed and beginning its ascent to mirror the Iranian revolution in a reformation of Western Civilization.
    This effect is testified by a gradual awakening of a remnant or small part of the populus within the western civilization aware about the nature and happenstance of the islamisation process made manifest in a form of apocalyptic manifesto by Jihadic Islam and triggered by the Iranian reformation in the pendulum of historical times.
    Due to a commonly shared metaphysical brotherhood between Jehovah-Abba and Allah and in effect since Islam's creation in the Qu'ran and the muslimisation of the previous Arabian identification however; the pendulum of history will not swing into more continuing and repeating reflective modes.
    Both Islam and Judeo-Christianity share a similar eschatology in a perceived and archetypological 'time of the end' and universal judgement.
    This eschatology is defined in the metaphysics of both physicalizations of the creator memeplexes and so must in some manner be 'fulfilled'.
    Islamic State so represents a well planned and archetypically energized medium for the Islamic eschatology as its apocalypse of the Old World and climaxing in the creation and universal domination or supremacy of a New World called 'Eternal Islamic Nation'.
    The Judeo-Christian eschatology carries the same parameters in a different naming of the messianic and antimessianic symbols and labels; but it is defined not in the 40 Year timeframe of Islam with a naturally defined nexus point of the Iranian revolution.
    The 70- Year timeframe of political Israel then becomes the applicable chronos for the Judeo-Christian religion, but is skewed by the difference between the Jewish and the Christian memeplexes for their respective eschatologies and as defined in the Torah for the Jews and in the New Testament by the Christians.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution




    John 8 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
    2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
    3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
    4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
    5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
    6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
    7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
    9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
    10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
    11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
    12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
    13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
    14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
    15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
    16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
    17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
    18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
    19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
    20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
    21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
    22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
    23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
    24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
    25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
    26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
    27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
    28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
    29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
    30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
    31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
    32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
    34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
    35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
    36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
    37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
    38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
    39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
    40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
    41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
    42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
    46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
    48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
    49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
    50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
    51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
    52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
    53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
    55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
    56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
    57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
    58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.


    Romans 8 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
    3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
    4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
    6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
    8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
    9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
    12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
    13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
    14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
    15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
    16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
    18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
    20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
    23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
    24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
    25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
    26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
    29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
    30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
    31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
    32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
    33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
    34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
    35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
    36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
    37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
    38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
    39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


    1 Corinthians 15 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
    3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
    4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
    5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
    6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
    7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
    8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
    9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
    10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
    11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
    12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
    13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
    14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
    15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
    16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
    17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
    18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
    19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
    20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
    21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
    22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
    29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
    30 And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
    31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
    32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.
    33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
    34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
    35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
    36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
    37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
    38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
    39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
    40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
    41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
    42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
    43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
    45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
    46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
    47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
    48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
    49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
    50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
    56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
    57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

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    1 John 4 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
    2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
    3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
    4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
    5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
    6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
    7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
    8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
    9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
    10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
    11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
    12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
    13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
    15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
    16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
    17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
    18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
    19 We love him, because he first loved us.
    20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
    21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.



    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - King James Version (KJV)
    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


    Ephesians 6:11-13 - King James Version (KJV)
    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.


    John 16:1-3 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
    2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
    3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.


    Isaiah 5:19-21 - King James Version (KJV)
    19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!
    20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!


    (39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves." - Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 - King James Version (KJV)
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.





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