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    A Danish policeman plays with a migrant girl at the E45 freeway north of Padborg, in Denmark.



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    The murder of Europe . It looks like Old Adolf was right . http://tomatobubble.com/id891.html
    People never learn .The propaganda and the brainwashing help the unlearning process . In the EU we have a bunch of traitors in control. It was obvious by the EU treatment of Greece , the sanctions against Russia , the scuttling of the Russian South Stream project , the wars for a greater Apartheid state * Iraq and now Syria , Libya , Afghanistan that keeps the corrupt Wall street afloat
    with constant injection of money laundered from the USA army guarded poppy fields . How did we get to this point ? Simple , most politicians are bought off including the local and and city . No one progress in politics if it is not vetted by the corrupt secret services controlled by the CIA , so only the corrupt get to the top . Then there are the newspapers that will only print trivia and some foreign news with the CIA spin . The last few years , in Italy a new Tv network appeared it is called LA 7 and it is the Italian version of the news approved by Mossad . It became obvious that even the Italian Government TV service RAI is more honest about Gaza and the crimes committed there than LA7 . At the moment there is a concerted campaign by the controlled news outlets to brainwash the italian population about the " benefits " of open immigration . But . strangely those benefits do not include the cost to the government of accommodation , health and other services to young immigrants mostly with no education . In a country that has about 42 % of the youth unemployed and where young educated young men escape from the oppressive Italian society to search for work , the country opens the door to people that often cannot prove their identity nor their background . The EU traitors fell ???? on purpose for the oldest trick in the book : the Trojan Horse . Those traitors deserve a firing squad and a bullet in the head . No trial required !
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    Max Igan - PressTV - Germany Introduces Border Checks, Halt Trains From Austria to Stop Refugees

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwbXYYffy4


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    EU approves military action against people smugglers in Mediterranean - reports

    The European Union has approved military action against human traffickers in the Mediterranean Sea, AFP reported, citing sources. The authorities plan to seize and destroy vessels to break up networks operating out of war-torn Libya.


    In June, the EU launched European Union Naval Force Mediterranean (EUNAVFOR Med) “to undertake systematic efforts to identify, capture and dispose of vessels and enabling assets used or suspected of being used by migrant smugglers or traffickers.” Now it will be allowed to stop and if necessary destroy boats which are used to carry illegal migrants.

    "The conditions have been met" to launch the new phase of the military operation, one European diplomat told AFP.

    However, the second phase of the operation, which was approved Monday, still restricts EU NavFor Med to action in international waters. The third phase would involve military action against people smugglers inside Libyan territorial waters, aiming to destroy their boats and networks before they set sail, AFP reports.

    Earlier, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) said that record number of asylum seekers had crossed the Mediterranean in 2015 so far. According to the agency, 432,761 migrants and refugees reached Europe by sea, which is more than double the total for 2014.

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    The refugee crisis has brought a compassion explosion – where will this energy go?
    by Anders Lustgarten


    "What an extraordinary week. After years of poor displaced people always being “migrants” and never “refugees”, of our elected representatives calling them “swarms” and our professional trolls calling them “cockroaches”, only a few months after 4 million
    voted for a party whose only real principle is “never let them in”, a sudden geyser of compassion has erupted.

    People making runs to Calais are swamped with donations. People who set up fundraising pages are exceeding their targets
    10 times over. And it’s coming from all sectors of society: a mate whose house is serving as the local drop-off centre is having
    his bell rung at all hours by middle-class parents, builders’ merchants, mechanics, even homeless people. It’s brilliant, baffling
    and profoundly important."

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/13/refugee-crisis-david-cameron-bomb-syria#comment-59441917


    Secret cinema hosts calais migrant camp

    Secret Cinema, a popular British company specialising in temporary movie screenings, holds a pop-up film showing for refugees
    in the Calais migrant camp, as part of a worldwide event called ''#LoveRefugees'' held simultaneously in 20 different countries.
    Joel Flynn reports.

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    This is in Polish but  worth putting it in the google translator. It is an interview with a Syrian, an owner of a big restaurant in Warsaw, Poland. He is telling the truth.

    http://natemat.pl/154119,wlasciciel-amrit-kebab-widze-te-twarze-i-wstyd-mi-narobia-balaganu

    This is the beginning of the article as translated by the google translator:

    0]]Even some Syrians are opposed to helping migrants. - Genuine refugees can one-fifth of the crowd. Most want an easy life on the dole, who promised Angela Merkel - says Ghazali Abdulloh, the owner of well-known restaurants in Warsaw Amrit Kebab.[/b]

    "The owner of Amrit Kebab does not want refugees in Poland. "I see these faces and feel shame . They will just create a mess"

    Even some Syrians are opposed to helping migrants. - Genuine refugees can one-fifth of the crowd. Most want an easy life on the dole, who promised Angela Merkel - says Ghazali Abdulloh, the owner of well-known restaurants in Warsaw Amrit Kebab.

    What do you feel seeing television reports about refugees and immigrants?

    Abdulloh Ghazali: I'm embarrassed. I assure you that most of them have had to flee their homes because of the war. I recognize there Eritreans, Moroccans. Of course, there are also the Syrians. All the time I get SMSs and messages on Facebook. In kind, 'We're going to Germany, live at Angela's "

    Would you employ a refugee or an immigrant in your restaurant?

    In my restaurant people work hard kebab sandwich because you have to know how to do it in 9 seconds. We feed five thousand. people a day. And those immigrants do not want to work hard. So I get a lot of questions like how to get from Poland to Germany. How to settle down in Germany. I assure you all that Poland is not the purpose of this migration.
    You've heard of Syrians who received aid in Poland, but preferred to flee to Germany?

    Poles are outraged, so me explain . I know of one of these families. That, my friend, who wrote on Facebook that she is finally in Germany. She will not live in a Polish parish, because her father is a well-known businessman in Damascus, and live in the most expensive district Baktuma. These people benefit from the aid - to the Syrian refugees obtain the right of permanent residence within the EU and travel freely. I say this in order to convince Poles that aid granted blindly, without thinking, everyone will go to the wrong people.

    Is there any way to to pick out,in the wave of immigrants, those really affected by war?

    Probably not. From what I heard, these people no longer want to give up control and registration at the border. I will recognize the Moroccan accent, but a border guard will not. On the other hand, as I was in Turkey, the guy on the street offered me to buy a Syrian passport for 1,000 euros. On the other hand, no one will officially spoke with Assad services that let's say, fairly well-oriented who flees across the border. And again, I'll show you something from Facebook. There is a boy who recently as a soldier said that he serves God, and now ironically writes that Germany is providing hot dogs.
    Many experts argue that Poland could benefit from the adoption of refugees and immigrants, because the Syrians are educated, and his entrepreneurship have much to contribute even to our economy.

    So says someone who does not understand the reality. If the Syrian dentist will lose the house on the war, it moves to Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, and not having to learn a language, you will earn two times more than the Polish dentist. Those who are storming the borders, the poorly educated people of the desert. Look what a mess they leave behind. I am ashamed. I'm sorry to say as a proud Syrian. They heard that the Germans accept everyone, so abandon their belongings and go after the easy life. What do they bring? The Koran under his arm.

    Where do you get that certainty from?

    Three days ago I was in Damascus, I had dinner with friends at a restaurant. On the streets you can see a normal life. In the coastal hotels Latakia people dancing on the pool at the latest hits. Why is there not seen great escape?

    Easy to say, just there is a war.

    The wave of migration counted in the hundreds of thousands moved only when word spread that Germany and Europe adopt every refugee. Second mafia trading in human beings teamed up with gangs from Kosovo. That is how this new route through Turkey, Greece, the Balkans and Hungary. Why do most men? Hard to endure the hardships. Men are counting on the fact that after the first allowances will be able to pay for the journey to their wives and children. If a person Germany offer a 500 euro allowance, it is easy to count how many get a husband, wife and two children. In Poland, the immigrant will not earn 9 thousand. per month.

    Unless he starts a restaurant selling kebab and falafel...

    A good one. I guess you do not know what they cost investment in gastronomy?

    I read that coming to Polish you had a handful of dollars.

    If 200 thousand. someone called a handful ... I had a different motivation. I fell in love with my wife, Justine, I wanted to live and work here. To invest in Amrit Kebab sold an apartment in Syria and said goodbye to a family that 50 years leading businesses Restaurants in Damascus. I did not want to open, like the others, some dirty boxes of frozen meat kebab. I aimed at something like McDonald's. I wanted to change the image of kebabs in Poland, still lingering perception that this poor food served from the window. If from the beginning it was served in a restaurant, or be perceived.

    You have no compassion for migrants since 10 years ago it was you yourself?

    I decided to talk to illustrate the Poles that this country is involved in something that does not concern him. Regardless of the motivation of these people do not want to Polish and hence escape, which will only provoke further problems. Moreover, not all these immigrants must storm the European borders, because their houses were burned, not everyone is hurt the war. I do not really know who we help. And so the more I understand those people who are worried that newcomers would make a mess here.

    ( I made a few corerections here and there where it was unintelligible)


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    enemyofNWO wrote:  The murder of Europe . It looks like Old Adolf was right . http://tomatobubble.com/id891.html
    People never learn .The propaganda and the brainwashing help the unlearning process . In the EU we have a bunch
    of traitors in control. It was obvious by the EU treatment of Greece , the sanctions against Russia , the scuttling of the
    Russian South Stream project , the wars for a greater Apartheid state * Iraq and now Syria , Libya , Afghanistan that
    keeps the corrupt Wall street afloat with constant injection of  money laundered from the USA army guarded poppy fields .
    How did we get to this point ? Simple , most politicians are bought off including the local and and city . No one progress in
    politics if it is not vetted by the corrupt secret services controlled by the CIA , so only the corrupt get to the top .
    Then there are the newspapers  that will only print trivia and some foreign news with the CIA spin . The last few years ,
    in Italy a new Tv network appeared it is called LA 7 and it is the Italian version of the news approved by Mossad . It became
    obvious that even the Italian Government TV service RAI is more honest about Gaza and the crimes committed there than LA7 .
    At the moment there is a concerted campaign by the controlled news outlets to brainwash the italian population about the
    " benefits " of open immigration . But . strangely those benefits do not include the cost to the government of accommodation ,
    health and other services to young immigrants mostly with no education . In a country that has about 42 % of the youth
    unemployed and where young educated young men escape from the oppressive Italian society to search for work , the country
    opens the door to people that often cannot prove their identity nor their background .
     The EU traitors fell ???? on purpose
    for the oldest trick in the book : the Trojan Horse . Those traitors deserve a firing squad and a bullet in the head. No trial required!


    I've highlighted some parts of your post, which triggered some thoughts, enemyofNWO. I'm an optimist, we may be surprised,
    how well the uneducated and the educated will join and come up with solutions and new ways of living together, dissolving the
    games of power in the present EU and the USA, from the bottom up. I see this huge migration as a means to do away with old
    ways and prejudices. To me, much of this migration, a mixing of all sorts of people, is the best condition to create a new and
    humane way of living together in all spices of cultures and spiritual views. Due to the presence of hands and minds of a mixed
    population, finding that meeting "the other" is quite a different thing, when it happens in 3D. Look how much more positive
    response is given now, showing people's willingness to make that happen. Although it may involve plans of infiltration or other
    secret agendas, certain friction and rubbing of shoulders will be part of it, I think.

    How we will learn, without having a choice almost, together maybe with mixed feelings initially. Here in the UK elderly people begin
    to remember their life in wartime. Life went on, with the sound of sirens and people running to shelters, sleeping in them at night.
    Families lived on, fathers went to work, mothers tried to make ends meet and provide food and comfort. All kind of rationing went
    on and sometimes cues in front of shops caused mothers to be away from home for a long time. Nothing was the same anymore
    and still everybody lived on and safety was a co-operation between those in service, to install  shelters everywhere in London and
    the common man in the street.

    The woman who told me of her youth in WW2, said "One day we woke up and these shelters were everywhere. As if magically
    appearing. They must have worked all night, to place them." She's been 6 weeks in the shelter, for the neighbor's home was hit
    by a bomb which didn't explode. When they returned home, after the clearance of the bomb was done, that night they had to
    run for shelter again and a bomb was dropped on the roof of her house. "The bomber-planes targeted the planned locations
    first and afterwards, they dropped the remaining bombs at random over London", she said. It was the first time I listened to
    someone share about her life during wartime in the UK.

    The voice of social media and people in the streets grows louder and louder. It's humanity's turn now, as I see it, in resonance
    with a pushing of our noses in the facts, facts of life that really matter. We don't live alone anymore in the wealth of the Western
    world. The opening of hearts and offers of help by hands do matter and it's simpler than our minds have grown to complicate
    matters. Governments are puzzled and waiting, we're the ones who can show a backbone, by jumping into action.

    We'd better let the NWO chew on their wishbone, they've got little to live on now, as I see it, for there's little meat left on it.
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    Hungarian Police Use Tear Gas As Refugees Break Through Razor Wire Fence


    Hungarian police have deployed tear gas and water cannon against refugees who broke through razor wire fence at the border crossing with Serbia.

    Around 1,500 refugees who had hoped to travel through Hungary are now blocked by a 3.5m-high fence, where footage is now emerging of panicked men, women and children running away from police.

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    Sky News reports a pregnant woman being stretchered from the scene and a young boy being carried away with tear gas in his eyes.

    Water canon is also being used, knocking some of the crowd to their feet.

    Sky News’ Colin Brazier is at the scene and said migrants were now throwing “really big rocks and house bricks” at police.

    He said tempers had been flaring for several hours, with refugees left at the fence without food, water and information.

    “It’s very fractious,” said Brazier. “There are young men who are really angry. It’s a determined hard core of maybe a score – and behind them children and mothers.”

    Prior to the outbreak of violence at the 110-mile fence this afternoon, police had detained 519 people who have tried to get through, and authorities have launched criminal proceedings against 46 people for allegedly illegally crossing the border.

    Many migrants are now crossing into Croatia in an attempt to avoid Hungary – but there are fears they could set off landmines left over from the country’s war with Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

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    Unwanted Refugees: EU Countries Block Borders

    The 1995 Schengen Agreement established open borders between 26 of the 28 EU countries. A Schengen visa issued in one nation is valid in all, permitting free movement throughout the area. A single external border alone exists.

    Things are changing. Refugee floods caused by US-led imperial wars aren’t wanted. Record numbers risk life and limb to reach European destinations out of desperation – enduring enormous hardships en route, then mistreated like hostile invaders when they arrive.

    German willingness to accept huge numbers appears fading. On Sunday, it closed its border with Austria, suspending train traffic, the way most refugees entered the country this summer.

    Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said only EU citizens and others with valid visas are permitted to enter Germany until further notice. Schengen is suspended – dead for all practical purposes as long as US endless wars continue displacing floods of victimized people.

    German police are patrolling Austrian border crossings. Der Spiegel said soldiers may guard road and rail borders. Closing Polish and Czech Republic access may follow.

    Germany is in Europe’s heartland, sharing borders with nine European countries: Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Poland, the Netherlands and Switzerland.

    If free movement is halted from all or most of them, Schengen is effectively dead, perhaps never to be revived, at least no time soon.

    Merkel wants a refugee quota system established, requiring other EU countries to share the burden based on size and economic ability to handle it. So far, no agreement was reached. Britain’s Cameron categorically rejects it. He’s not alone.

    German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel said Germany is “reaching the limits of its capabilities.” An EU response is needed. “By the time thousands of people are walking on the Autobahn, it’s too late.”

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    There are immigrants coming to Poland from its eastern border, mainly from Chechnya. I hope all the borders will be closed . And I believe this was also THEIR plan.
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    Post  mudra on Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:16 pm

    Nigel Farage why are rich Arab states not taking immigrants?

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    burgundia wrote:There are immigrants coming to Poland from its eastern border, mainly from Chechnya. I hope all the borders will be closed . And I believe this was also THEIR plan.

    If some were meant to pass the borders without any control they are now already here I would imagine.

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    This is a staged video. Read the comments below and pay attention to the boy at 0:27. he is acting.

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    Post  Jenetta on Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:00 pm

    burgundia wrote:There are immigrants coming to Poland from its eastern border, mainly from Chechnya. I hope all the borders will be closed . And I believe this was also THEIR plan.


    I tend to agree with you Burgundia. Viktor Orban of Hungary is now villified in the media as a tyrant however even though I don't agree with using water cannons, and tear gas against women and children some "soft handling" needs to be employed. It is quite evident that a large number of these migrants are young men and as evidenced at the border between Hungary and Serbia these men can resort to violence themselves even if it means throwing young children over the razor wire fence which has happened. Some countries within the EU can handle a large burden of migrants/refugees. Others not so much. Croatia is an example and already there is trouble there with the overwhelming numbers...next is Slovenia who doesn't want them. Are they all going to stay in Croatia on their way to Austria and Germany? Obviously not.
    Its all very well to be "airy/fairy" about this mess as some on this forum are however picture a horde descending on your doorstep demanding to be taken in and when they don't receive a welcome they resort to violence whatever form that would take. Taking in "one or two" is quite different to a demanding "twenty five".
    The open borders policy is no longer working within the E.U. so I can see only one solution.
    The Western powers the United States, Canada, U.K., Australia & Israel(in collusion) need to curtail their wars in the Middle East and in Gaza/Palestine otherwise the European Union will collapse from within on the economic front. Already Germany is looking towards Russia.

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