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    Post  Guest on Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:54 pm

    Thank-you TRANCOSO! I just might immerse myself in Joseph Farrell material for a couple of months. He understands theology, music, finance, technology, scholarship, and the Nazis. These subjects are more important than most alternative researchers (and most people) realize. They need to be studied as a group. I wish I could express how strongly I feel about that.

    I'm still trying to digest that Courtney Brown remote-viewing material. I am fascinated by the content - yet I am wary of the source, and possible demonic trickery. It's just one more piece of a very strange puzzle.
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:50 pm

    I'm still trying to digest that Courtney Brown remote-viewing material. I am fascinated by the content - yet I am wary of the source, and possible demonic trickery. It's just one more piece of a very strange puzzle.
    Have a look at this. Numerous (as in a LOT of) links, YouTube vids, pdfs, etc.
    Remote Viewing: The Data Dump on PSI warfare
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread590387/pg1

    ... and this:

    Mars active industrial site located by remote viewing, JPL photos, corroborating Mars whistleblowers
    July 28 2010
    by: Alfred Lambremont Webre

    An apparent active industrial site on the surface of Mars with a 'large nozzle shooting a liquid spray' onto an apparent industrial waste area has been successfully located and explored in a remote viewing study conducted by the Farsight Institute in March 2010 using nine highly trained remote viewers and methodologies developed by the U.S. military.

    According to the Farsight Institute, the original discovery of the active industrial site and giant nozzle spray “was made by [Mars anomaly researcher] Patrick Skipper” from photographs of the site taken by Jet Propulsion Laboratories (JPL). The JPL photos were taken 16 October 2000 at Mars Longitude of image center: 19.73°W, Mars Latitude of image center: 3.08°N.

    Reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre attended a July 6, 2010 Montreal presentation of the results Mars remote viewing study by Dr. Courtney Brown, and the following is based on his notes.

    During the presentation, Dr. Brown indicated that tentative results of the study, based on high clarity scores of the remote viewing sessions, included the following:

    • A large dome at the site is an artificial structure;

    • Tunnels connect various chambers at the site;

    • The original builders of the site were ancient;

    • Current occupants of the site do not understand its original technology;

    • The level of the original technology is high;

    • There is a shortage of spare parts at the site;

    • The site may be used for power or energy generation;

    • There are intense flashing lights at the site;

    • There is a sense of despondency among the occupants of the site;

    • There is a laboratory setting at the site, occupants wear uniforms, and there are more men than women;

    • The site occupants view this as a hardship post;

    • The site occupants cannot return home and knew that when they accepted;

    • There is NO ET (extraterrestrial) content detected at the site;

    • The occupants at the site could be human;

    • The occupants of the site are of unknown origin;

    • The site may be a black budget operation.

    • The remote viewing interpretations of the site may be a decoding error

    The remainder of the article re the corroboration of whistleblowers can be read here
    http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle- ... tleblowers
    ( http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/alfred-webre )

    A two-part video of Dr. Courtney Brown’s presentation of the remote viewing study of the Figure A Mars industrial site is available here.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u978uYOl934

    Source: Seattle Exopolitics Examiner


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    Post  TRANCOSO on Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:21 pm

    b.t.w., at the Mists you'll find a HUGE 'Data Library':
    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/suggestions-for-categories-f6/data-libraries-t618.htm

    and quite a lot of UFO/NASA vids here:
    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/best-reads-f42/watch-this-t749.htm

    I'm still trying to digest that Courtney Brown remote-viewing material. I am fascinated by the content - yet I am wary of the source, and possible demonic trickery. It's just one more piece of a very strange puzzle.
    What I understood was, that when he RV'd The Galactic Federation, the message he received was to write 'Cosmic Voyage' & put it on the www for free.

    Of course his army bosses were reluctant to give him permission, but part of the message was, that if this information was gonna be 'classified', by the army, the Galactic Federation would refuse further contact with 'Earth humans' for a period of 100 years.

    All this talk about 'DISCLOSURE'...
    What Courtney Brown 'disclosed' in his books Cosmic Voyage & Cosmic Explorers (FREE download at www.courtneybrown.com ) is overwhelming, yet it is almost completely denied by both the mainstream & 'underground' press.

    So in answer to 'yet I am wary of the source, and possible demonic trickery,' I'd say: 'Don't be.'
    This is about the 'cleanest' info you'll come across.

    Courtney Brown isn't SELLING his books, he gives them away FOR FREE!

    All WE have to do is to download & read them!

    But apparently people expect to be 'disclosed' in a one-line soundbite.
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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:52 am

    I am suspicious of everything - especially regarding the supernatural or paranormal. Has the Secret Government been remotely viewed - especially regarding names, hierarchies, financing (taxes and drugs?), underground bases, secret space program, various factions such as Masons, Nazis, and Occultists? I suspect that information can be given a lawyer-like twist which completely misrepresents that which is really going on - yet which seems to be above-board and clean. I consider everything in this area to be possibilities only. In essence - my mind is never made up, and I wish to be confused by the 'facts'. But I am so burned-out by all of this. There never seems to be resolution or confirmation...just more questions.
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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  lindabaker on Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:13 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I am suspicious of everything - especially regarding the supernatural or paranormal. Has the Secret Government been remotely viewed - especially regarding names, hierarchies, financing (taxes and drugs?), underground bases, secret space program, various factions such as Masons, Nazis, and Occultists? I suspect that information can be given a lawyer-like twist which completely misrepresents that which is really going on - yet which seems to be above-board and clean. I consider everything in this area to be possibilities only. In essence - my mind is never made up, and I wish to be confused by the 'facts'. But I am so burned-out by all of this. There never seems to be resolution or confirmation...just more questions.

    Yes, questions lead to questions, and once in a while you have to chill and let the stuff settle in. Somehow, it all coalesces into a logical? form. It's the waiting for that coalescense that it maddening to me sometimes. Somehow, I get to the point when I realize that it's all history. It's basically over already. When you get to that still point, you realize none of it really matters that much anymore. Then, the fun begins! Linda
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    Post  Spregovori on Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:24 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I am suspicious of everything - But I am so burned-out by all of this. There never seems to be resolution or confirmation...just more questions.

    This is interesting what you wrote here. It is a little familiar. Perhaps we can "ponder" on it and help each other.

    Have you ever attempted to go for it from the top down? The view is better at the top.

    There is a system in place of design so flawless that you, me...mostly anyone...does not understand it in its totality.

    Yes there are bread crumbs here and there...put a few bread crumbs together and you get a NWO documentary on fractional banking system, you get to find out about the checkered floor, the two pillars of boaz and jachin, the 8 pointed star of venus (or call it isis or sun...), scottish rite, york rite...and you seek crumb after crumb...

    You watch it, you watch it again...you contemplate it...you watch curtain parts again...you think about it and...you get it! (not all do)
    Happy as you can be, light as a bird, you remove a big rock, realizing the new information not just knowing it, just to find a dozen more big rocks under it....telling you of holographic universe and such...

    Yes there is nothing wrong with knowing how "stuff works"...just that....one should not ignore how he/she responds to the fact that...you are a mouse in laboratory (narf!)....

    In what kind of state does this put you in? What is it that you mostly give your attention to?
    With intention you give energy...with energy you empower.

    Given one of the more "famous" laws... what is it that you attract in your life...to experience...with what you do?

    You most likely heard for the example of victim-abuser?

    If we take the world and the population in general (the "average" human)...what is the role?

    Knowing that...how do you think one could apply the same law to "bypass" what you generally dislike?

    and yes, saying it is not doing it...

    The what seems to be a flawless system has a flaw...it needs you to go along with it.
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    Post  lindabaker on Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:47 pm

    Eccentricity is not, as dull people would have us believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd.

    - Edith Sitwell.
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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:04 pm

    Thank-you for the wisdom. I just can't get away from the thought of being in the Sistine Chapel in the Vatican with the Black Pope, the Top-Ranking Jesuits, the Whore of Babylon, and a Nine Foot Tall Drac (chairman of the board) - listening to a completely open debate regarding forbidden knowledge. I'm thinking this would send me sobbing uncontrollably into the night. As interested and nice as we are - we are amateurs. I think an alphabet-type told Kerry something to that effect. There is a certain arrogance to this - but there is also a certain truth to it as well. My emotional state, and my thinking ability, is severely compromised. I know I'm not even close to hitting bedrock in my search for truth, solutions, security, and happiness. I am very concerned that the old paradigms and lies are going to be replaced by new paradigms and lies - which continue to bypass the real truths and answers. I'm seeing an ongoing infowar rather than a golden age of peace and happiness. I so hope that I'm wrong.
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    Post  Spregovori on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:42 am

    lindabaker wrote:Eccentricity is not, as dull people would have us believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd.

    - Edith Sitwell.

    Being different is only a problem in case "you" are the only "normal" one.




    orthodoxymoron wrote:My emotional state, and my thinking ability, is severely compromised. I know I'm not even close to hitting bedrock in my search for truth, solutions, security, and happiness. I am very concerned that the old paradigms and lies are going to be replaced by new paradigms and lies - which continue to bypass the real truths and answers. I'm seeing an ongoing infowar rather than a golden age of peace and happiness. I so hope that I'm wrong.

    A roundabout in theory of theories....start with the head and end with a tail..and there it is the head again...but going the other way...well what do you know...a tail...

    By what you say it would seem you pay so much attention to this things and have no time to "contemplate" the amm golden age...

    All this focus on some type of war and never ending deception...yet you admit how far you are from the architect of that what you are allowed to know....

    "all is lost, all is lost" - yet you hope it might not be that...but "all is lost, all is lost" ....

    So...why all the focus on it than?


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    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:47 am

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for the wisdom. I just can't get away from the thought of being in the Sistine Chapel in the Vatican with the Black Pope, the Top-Ranking Jesuits, the Whore of Babylon, and a Nine Foot Tall Drac (chairman of the board) - listening to a completely open debate regarding forbidden knowledge. I'm thinking this would send me sobbing uncontrollably into the night. As interested and nice as we are - we are amateurs. I think an alphabet-type told Kerry something to that effect. There is a certain arrogance to this - but there is also a certain truth to it as well. My emotional state, and my thinking ability, is severely compromised. I know I'm not even close to hitting bedrock in my search for truth, solutions, security, and happiness. I am very concerned that the old paradigms and lies are going to be replaced by new paradigms and lies - which continue to bypass the real truths and answers. I'm seeing an ongoing infowar rather than a golden age of peace and happiness. I so hope that I'm wrong.


    I agree with that. But on this "I am very concerned that the old paradigms and lies are going to be replaced by new paradigms and lies - which continue to bypass the real truths and answers." I could add that if we permit those bastards to do it. We know that they infiltrate any party and think that they are in control to do it .
    That's why we have to consider the facts . The reality in which we live is so deeply manipulated by those experts and for so long that drastic measures must be taken . The crims in charge are now acting openly and in our face , destroying the environment , culling the population and attempt to destroy any vestige of " civilization . Against attempt to cull the population the populus , must use the same tactics against the rulers . Extermination is the answer . They do it to us ,we do it to them . The key is to exterminate their families and dynasties , so that a dynasty of bankers or politicians with hidden agenda will never rise again .
    Under the scenarios unfolding : possible CME , economic system unwinding , Gulf of Mexico loop current and following possible Ice age , possible Nibiru ,
    Earth changes ongoing , 2012 ect . it is very hard to be positive . I love your thread .
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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  mudra on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:17 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:

    Against attempt to cull the population the populus , must use the same tactics against the rulers . Extermination is the answer . They do it to us ,we do it to them . The key is to exterminate their families and dynasties , so that a dynasty of bankers or politicians with hidden agenda will never rise again .

    I do understand your approach enemyofNWO and I also can imagine all the good reasons you have to wish for the rotten apple to be prevented to contaminate the good ones by removing it . In traditional medecine antibiotics are used to kill the viruses that entered an organism and made it ill .
    This although it alleviates the condition and seems to bring it back to safe and normal is however only a temporary solution . The illness will show up again and again calling for more and more antibiotics . A holistic approach taking into consideration all of the different fields we embody ( physical , mental, emotional and spiritual ) need to be adressed as a whole for true soundness to be restored . And so it is in human relations and our facing of " evil " I believe . Eradicate your enemies will only remove the tip of the iceberg . Without work being done on the foundation of all that is , namely Spiritual Consciousness " there is no peace to be found anywhere in the universe Imo for in the knowingness or lack thereof lies the strengh or weekness of our all encompassing immune system .

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    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:45 am

    mudra wrote:
    enemyofNWO wrote:

    Against attempt to cull the population the populus , must use the same tactics against the rulers . Extermination is the answer . They do it to us ,we do it to them . The key is to exterminate their families and dynasties , so that a dynasty of bankers or politicians with hidden agenda will never rise again .

    I do understand your approach enemyofNWO and I also can imagine all the good reasons you have to wish for the rotten apple to be prevented to contaminate the good ones by removing it . In traditional medecine antibiotics are used to kill the viruses that entered an organism and made it ill .
    This although it alleviates the condition and seems to bring it back to safe and normal is however only a temporary solution . The illness will show up again and again calling for more and more antibiotics . A holistic approach taking into consideration all of the different fields we embody ( physical , mental, emotional and spiritual ) need to be adressed as a whole for true soundness to be restored . And so it is in human relations and our facing of " evil " I believe . Eradicate your enemies will only remove the tip of the iceberg . Without work being done on the foundation of all that is , namely Spiritual Consciousness " there is no peace to be found anywhere in the universe Imo for in the knowingness or lack thereof lies the strengh or weekness of our all encompassing immune system .

    Love Always
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    Thanks Mudra ,
    I understand your approach . However for a moment think how long it would take for every human to reach "spiritual Conssciousness " , The state of the human consciousness , at this moment , in time has a long way to go . There are people waking up every day but the road is long . Through human history there are periods of revolution and upheaval when the slaves rebel against the dictators of the kings. This is one time .
    The Russian revolution also brought the end ot the Romanoff family and the French revolution brought the end ( temporarily ) of the "ancien regime " .
    Today we know the recent history a bit better that's why it is important to destroy the " dynasties or families " of Illuminati to prevent a return to this state of affair .
    Peace and love to you Mudra .
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    Post  mudra on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:00 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:
    Thanks Mudra ,
    I understand your approach . However for a moment think how long it would take for every human to reach "spiritual Conssciousness " , The state of the human consciousness , at this moment , in time has a long way to go . There are people waking up every day but the road is long . Through human history there are periods of revolution and upheaval when the slaves rebel against the dictators of the kings. This is one time .
    The Russian revolution also brought the end ot the Romanoff family and the French revolution brought the end ( temporarily ) of the "ancien regime " .
    Today we know the recent history a bit better that's why it is important to destroy the " dynasties or families " of Illuminati to prevent a return to this state of affair .
    Peace and love to you Mudra .

    Peace and love to you too enemyofNWO .
    I can't take defence for acts of destruction perpetrated by a few on this earth on human kind , mother nature and its hosts and think they should be exposed, stopped and sanctioned.
    I believe we all came on this plane for a reason that comes to light as we follow our path .
    I personally am no Warrior as such if only a peacefull one . I am aware however there are Warriors around me and I have great respect for them .
    Actions taken by each of us out of integrity in alignment with our life's purpose are what it will take to bring this world to peace .
    And when you look at this you'll see this is a holistic approach too for I am aware that all strings of a musical instrument are needed for good music to be played .
    You will not find me in the infantery but where your Heart takes you I will be walking by your side.

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    Post  Spregovori on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:07 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:

    However for a moment think how long it would take for every human to reach "spiritual Conssciousness " , The state of the human consciousness , at this moment , in time has a long way to go . There are people waking up every day but the road is long . Through human history there are periods of revolution and upheaval when the slaves rebel against the dictators of the kings. This is one time .

    Indefinitely long..especially if they will grab some sticks and stones to go *fight* against the well grounded and very deep root that has been there since long before them (at least in this incarnation).

    You wish to rebel? To what end? Replace the current one with the other? Repeating the history one more time will not change anything...more of the same will not change anything...

    enemyofNWO wrote:
    The Russian revolution also brought the end ot the Romanoff family and the French revolution brought the end ( temporarily ) of the "ancien regime " .
    Today we know the recent history a bit better that's why it is important to destroy the " dynasties or families " of Illuminati to prevent a return to this state of affair .

    There has not been a wide spread significant global and political event in last few hundred years (could be thousands) that would be spontaneous and not carefully designed, controlled and taken advantage of.

    Have you ever wondered how far can it go? Take a look out the window.. have you ever seen a base station for cell phones..with a microwave antenna and all that?
    Have you ever seen the grid of them...the spread...the area they cover?
    Have you ever thought about the "great modern usefulness" of having a cell phone near a person all the time and how very convenient that can be...emanating 24/7?
    What is your body? An electromagnetic shell? How does that respond to this and that frequency (or a TV or radio)? How can you be "fine tuned"? And it is only a drop on the sea...



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    Post  Brook on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:36 am

    mudra wrote:
    enemyofNWO wrote:

    Against attempt to cull the population the populus , must use the same tactics against the rulers . Extermination is the answer . They do it to us ,we do it to them . The key is to exterminate their families and dynasties , so that a dynasty of bankers or politicians with hidden agenda will never rise again .

    I do understand your approach enemyofNWO and I also can imagine all the good reasons you have to wish for the rotten apple to be prevented to contaminate the good ones by removing it . In traditional medecine antibiotics are used to kill the viruses that entered an organism and made it ill .
    This although it alleviates the condition and seems to bring it back to safe and normal is however only a temporary solution . The illness will show up again and again calling for more and more antibiotics . A holistic approach taking into consideration all of the different fields we embody ( physical , mental, emotional and spiritual ) need to be adressed as a whole for true soundness to be restored . And so it is in human relations and our facing of " evil " I believe . Eradicate your enemies will only remove the tip of the iceberg . Without work being done on the foundation of all that is , namely Spiritual Consciousness " there is no peace to be found anywhere in the universe Imo for in the knowingness or lack thereof lies the strengh or weekness of our all encompassing immune system .

    Love Always
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    Mudra,

    Without a doubt you do amaze me sometimes...those are truly words of wisdom.....one of the best things I've seen written in a long time.
    I could not agree more with what you say here....and commend you on your approach and words on a subject that send most reeling...such as myself ..I myself am taking your words to heart

    Namaste'
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    Post  Guest on Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:07 am

    I really think that the negative and regressive powers that be wish for us to run in the streets - only to be mowed-down by AA-12's and such. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c This would make an example out of the rebels without a clue - and would serve to solidify the regressive's control and agenda. I fully endorse aggressive researching and armchair blogging - and full cooperation with the police and military - obeying all laws - and respecting authority. We need to get informed without getting mad or going mad. This is an infowar and a spiritual war. Even if we placed all of the people we love to hate in prison - there would soon be new powers that be - and they might be worse than the present batch. Think long and hard about what I said about the Sistine Chapel meeting. I think the U.N. and the City States are just the tips of a gigantic iceberg. I could be wrong - but that's what I think. I'm trying to invite myself to the elite's party - whether they like it or not. I am starting sort of a novel here in MOA which places me right in the middle of the heart of darkness. The horror!
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    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:23 am

    [quote="Spregovori"]


    "There has not been a wide spread significant global and political event in last few hundred years (could be thousands) that would be spontaneous and not carefully designed, controlled and taken advantage of."

    Yes that's true . This is a cycle that needs to be broken .

    {quote= Orthodoxymoron } "I really think that the negative and regressive powers that be wish for us to run in the streets - only to be mowed-down by AA-12's and such. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c This would make an example out of the rebels without a clue - and would serve to solidify the regressive's control and agenda. I fully endorse aggressive researching and armchair blogging - and full cooperation with the police and military - obeying all laws - and respecting authority. We need to get informed without getting mad or going mad. This is an infowar and a spiritual war. Even if we placed all of the people we love to hate in prison - there would soon be new powers that be - and they might be worse than the present batch. "

    Orthy you are probably right there , but on the other side of the coin . Remember that the US army cannot subdue IRAQ and Afghanistan . The military have been there 7 or 8 years and they are losing .
    Only a small percentage of the US population took part in the original revolution .
    It can happen again . It is going to be interesting when the SHTF , what's going to happen .I predict a civil war . I hope that at least some criminals Illuminati get what they deserve .



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    Post  lindabaker on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:35 pm

    I predict no war whatsoever. As we jump timelines due to the proximity of the chaotic nodes, this is easier than ever before. Hold the vision of the life and society you want, then deal with the realities as they present themselves. With practice, holding the vision of peace is stronger than holding the vision of war. It's also a whole lot easier to live that way. The tide is turning, and all we have to do is remember that we are sovereign individuals with the capacity to feel the vision, feel the results as we hold strong to that vision. The puppet masters will not go there. We will leave them "behind" and it will not be automatic. Hold the emotional and physical feeling of the timeline you want to be on. Master the art of life and make it the life worth living through gratitude for what we have right here, right now. I predict no war whatsoever, and we could make the peace immediate. What if they gave a war and nobody came? It really is that simple. The controllers are the ones who will be left behind.
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    Post  Spregovori on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:49 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:


    Remember that the US army cannot subdue IRAQ and Afghanistan . The military have been there 7 or 8 years and they are losing .
    Only a small percentage of the US population took part in the original revolution .
    It can happen again . It is going to be interesting when the SHTF , what's going to happen .I predict a civil war . I hope that at least some criminals Illuminati get what they deserve .


    The official army has moved out...the private "security" and civilian (CIA etc) personal remain...so does the puppet government, the oil pumping infrastructure, the western financed terrorists, religious tension between groups and the growing Chinese influence....it is near "perfect".

    This will not be changed by waging war or calling for an armed rebellion/revolution...same goes for prayers for divine vengeance and alike, based on some distorted teachings of old...

    The war "down there" had and has its purpose and it has been utilized remarkably well (unfortunately). There are no coincidences... What has not been ravaged by mind lost warriors/soldiers...will be so by the post-war political and economical stabilization "acts". It is history all over again...and people..learn nothing.

    contemplate - a fish in the water can not/does not see the bird flying high in the sky...not to mention..everything outside the small pond it is in... It is incomprehensible to the fish about who made the pond, who pours in the war...and who can dry it up...at any given moment....(providing the alternative has been found)

    If you so desire...fight you shall have...win you will not


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    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:21 pm

    "I predict no war whatsoever. As we jump timelines due to the proximity of the chaotic nodes, this is easier than ever before. Hold the vision of the life and society you want, then deal with the realities as they present themselves. With practice, holding the vision of peace is stronger than holding the vision of war. It's also a whole lot easier to live that way. The tide is turning, and all we have to do is remember that we are sovereign individuals with the capacity to feel the vision, feel the results as we hold strong to that vision. The puppet masters will not go there. We will leave them "behind" and it will not be automatic. Hold the emotional and physical feeling of the timeline you want to be on. Master the art of life and make it the life worth living through gratitude for what we have right here, right now. I predict no war whatsoever, and we could make the peace immediate. What if they gave a war and nobody came? It really is that simple. The controllers are the ones who will be left behind."

    Linda . I wish what you say would become true . I would like to be in a timeline where harmony , love , understanding and peace reign .


    " This will not be changed by waging war or calling for an armed rebellion/revolution...same goes for prayers for divine vengeance and alike, based on some distorted teachings of old... "
    Spregovori . I subscribe to Gerald Celente's Trend research amd Halfpasthuman's reports and I tend to believe the scenarios they are forecasting .
    The Illuminati are planning a war and a false flag event .
    Nobody is advocating armed conflict but the crims in charge have a track record .They have done it before . That means going to war to get out of economic trouble . But this time things could be a bit different . Don't think that I am going to war ....I am 69 years old and cannot go anywhere without being followed by the spooks . I can express my wish that certain war criminals get what they deserve . Incidentally we live in Trieste .Cheers


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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  Spregovori on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:34 pm

    V Trstu si? You are in Italy...very close... :)

    U are 69...hmm i am 27....and i can assure you i will never pick up a gun to fight for "what is right".
    Yes i will defend myself in need be, but i will not defend "our land" or "my property" and alike amm "patriotic justices"....for "home and country" ...yea right...

    (insert an essay here)..............


    .........so given all of that (the above imaginary essay), it is clear that those, for who we think are in power...for them to be able to do what they do....humanity has to go along with it...without that...they are powerless...

    who is "responsible"? we are. who can end it? we can. how to end it? by not playing their game anymore...






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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  lindabaker on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:10 pm

    Hello to beautiful Trieste. I drove through (and stayed) there on my way to Zagreb before the war. I take a deep breath just remembering La Mer. Some of the oldest and wisest souls live in Italy, and you can be also a wise one, Ememyof, who will live many more years to see the new way of living. The younger generation will do what they came to do, I have no doubt. The younger generation cannot be told what to do. It may be difficult to parent them, but if they cannot be told what to do, this is a very good thing. The game is up: they will change the vision. Wait and see.
    It's already over. They already checked.
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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  mudra on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:25 pm

    lindabaker wrote: The younger generation cannot be told what to do. It may be difficult to parent them, but if they cannot be told what to do, this is a very good thing. The game is up: they will change the vision. Wait and see.
    It's already over. They already checked.

    I can attest to this . I do have two children (28) and (21) and your assessement Linda could not be more accurate . I often told myself that I really haven't given birth to sheep . There does'nt seem to be a conventional track for them to fit into . They plainly are creating their own track .
    I must say this already started with me when I was their age and probably with you too Linda and others from our generation here Wink

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    Re: Orthodoxymoron

    Post  enemyofNWO on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:21 pm

    Spregovori wrote:V Trstu si? You are in Italy...very close... :)

    U are 69...hmm i am 27....and i can assure you i will never pick up a gun to fight for "what is right".
    Yes i will defend myself in need be, but i will not defend "our land" or "my property" and alike amm "patriotic justices"....for "home and country" ...yea right...

    (insert an essay here)..............


    .........so given all of that (the above imaginary essay), it is clear that those, for who we think are in power...for them to be able to do what they do....humanity has to go along with it...without that...they are powerless...

    who is "responsible"? we are. who can end it? we can. how to end it? by not playing their game anymore...



    I realized that war is a racket a long time ago , when I was about 20 years old . There is a saying here in Italy that goes like this : let's arm ourselves and then you go and fight . Funny that the close relatives of the war mongers never enlist in the army or if the do they stay away from trouble . I have not been playing their game for a long time now ,as a matter of fact , we are treated by the spooks here as enemy of the state , that's why my nickname ( enemyofNWO )
    This observer would not miss for anything the great unfolding of events that await us in the next 2 or 3 years . Cheers






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